Waaaahhh!

I think she ate the two kids.

strangely, they all look like the same person (with an assist from Carls Jr. in the last pic)

BOOMER, BOOMER, BOOMER, BOOMER, BOOMER, … MANG WE SUCK AGAIN!!

Congratulations Florida, you just beat OU by 10 points on a neutral field !!!!!!!!!

LOL! That last one is a band member, not a little child.

Which do you think is more neutral Miami or Dallas?

I’m pretty disappointed that there was no picture of a crying child in dallas this year. I know I saw plenty.

Internet sensation once again! Suck it, haters!

I didnt know Inuit Eskimos migrated as far south as Norman. I guess they heard about the free land too.

Guys, making fun of that girl’s appearance is not cool.

Stoops is one thing but a young girl?

Every Sooner that’s ever posted on this site is now invited to suck a fart out of my asshole.

Except of course for NateHeupel[BC, I need a paternalistic icon here; fill it in at your convenience].

I think she ate the two kids and their mobile home!

I heart Henry James when he posts stuff that those photos

“Congratulations Florida, you just beat OU by 10 points on a neutral field !!!!!!!!!”

And Tebow’s offense managed to score 21 fewer points than Colt’s.

“Which do you think is more neutral Miami or Dallas?”

Dallas is a MUCH friendlier place for the Sooners than Miami is.

So Miami is … neutraller.

It just occurred to me that a Brent Venables defense was the HIGH POINT for OU. Sweet Lord.

I stand by what I posted previously. OU deserved to go to the Big 12 title game. We all agreed to the rules in advance, and OU came out on top.
BUT UT should’ve gone to the national title game. There’s no rule that says you have to win your conference championship game to go to the BCS title game. Ask Stoops. The Big 12 CCG was like OU’s consolation prize (As always) and UT moves on.

I also stand by my statement that UT fans lost their argument when they needed anything more than a half-assed effort to beat a not very good Ohio State team. Utah and USC may have something to go on. Utah is undefeated, and USC was just killing people with its D. But UT shot itself in the foot by losing to Texas Tech and damn near letting Ohio State take you into overtime.

There is no reason UT shouldn’t have beaten tOSU by 20 if they were a legit national title contender.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

There is no reason USC shouldn’t have beaten Arizona by 20 if they were a legit national title contender.

Just fucking stupid.

Nate, really? Seriously? In the future, could you let us know that we’re playing for the national title? You know, so we can show up and shit.

OU didn’t even beat Kansas by 20 in fucking Norman

UT is out for losing to Tech. What if it was a loss to 4 loss Mississippi?

There is no reason Utah shouldn’t have beaten Michigan by more than 3. Or New Mexico. Or Air Force by more than 7. Shouldn’t someone in the national title discussion actually win these games against unranked teams by more than a score?

Did you know USC lost to Oregon State by more than Texas lost to Tech, and if they are so great shouldn’t they have beaten Arizona by more?

Blah, blah , blah. Everything negative you say about why Texas was less deserving than someone else can be said about all these teams.

Nate, now that the BCS CG is over, and people have no vested interest in pumping it, things will start to sink in around the nation. Data, facts. Such as:

Texas finished higher in the AP than OU.
Texas has a better record than OU.
Texas beat OU.
Texas has beaten OU 3 of the last 4 years.
OU has now lost 5 straight BCS games (iow, either OU is like Notre Dame, continually being matched against better teams than they should, or OU chokes).
Texas has won three straight BCS games.

It will sink in. The BCS sent the wrong team from the Big 12.

Nate’s idiotic ramblings have temporarily distracted me from my enjoyment of sooner tears. Please keep it down. Ah, that’s the stuff.

It will sink in. The BCS sent the wrong team from the Big 12.

This would probably be true… if not for needing a last minute TD to beat Ohio State’s worst team in 4 years. (The same Ohio State whose far better teams were completely destroyed by 2 SEC teams worse than ’08 Florida.)

And we’re right back to style points. Please god make it stop.

Ah, yes – the commutative property of college football relativity, with the corrollary of style points.

Give me a freaking break.

Ah, yes – the commutative property of college football relativity, with the corrollary of style points.

Give me a freaking break.

Soo… the OU loss to a great Florida team suggests Texas should have been in the game instead… but the Fiesta Bowl suggests nothing.

Got it. Thanks.

(Fwiw, I believe both games are irrelevant to the debate.)

No the ou loss to Texas by double digits on a neutral field is what “suggests” Texas should be in the game.

No the ou loss to Texas by double digits on a neutral field is what "suggests" Texas should be in the game.

OK, and that’s back to the discussion of what each did before the bowl games this season. (I’m not interested in that one.)

I was addressing a post about the public perception based on a lot of factors unrelated to that discussion. And in that regard, rightly or wrongly, the Fiesta Bowl will matter.

Thanks, Dawg. Your threadshitting prevented me from OD’ing on sooner misery.

Actually I misspoke – it’s the transitive property, but you get my meaning.

If you want to drag in 3rd party opponents, then a loss by Florida to Ole Miss would be ‘worse’ than a loss by Texas to a 2-loss Tech team and would/should have disqualified them from playing last night, right?

Do you really want to dig into all of this "best win" / "worst loss" crap? By that logic, UF’s game against The Citadel and OU’s Actually I misspoke – it’s the transitive property, but you get my meaning.

If you want to drag in 3rd party opponents, then a loss by Florida to Ole Miss would be ‘worse’ than a loss by Texas to a 2-loss Tech team and would/should have disqualified them from playing last night, right? Regarding the hypothetical UF-UT matchup, let me see if I follow your logic:

UF > OU; UT > Big XII.

WTF?

Texas’ performance against OSU has minimal value as a basis for determining whether Florida and the SEC are better than Texas and the Big XII. Do you really want to dig into all of this "best win" / "worst loss" crap? By that logic, UF’s game against The Citadel and OU’s game against Chattanooga – both I-AA teams (which I know you SEC folks have a penchant for scheduling) – should have been counted in the SOS calculation, which would have probably dropped both of them out of the game.

The fact of the matter is that Texas fans have consistently claimed that on the field results should be the ultimate factor when deciding the best teams. The only consideration of the ‘worst loss’ issue was with respect to breaking the three-way tie in the South.

I don’t really get where you’re going with this argument – no one here is disputing that Florida wasn’t better than OU, or that the Big XII is a clearly superior conference compared to the SEC (unlike you, clearly). Besides the fact that one game is a totally subjective – and marginally instructive – basis on which to make such an argument, our contention is that you can’t even make that strained comparison because the best Big XII team didn’t play Florida last night. Our claim is that Texas would have made a better case for the conference. Since we didn’t get that contest, we can toss conjecture about what would have happened from now until Armageddon.

Dammit…let me try again.

Actually I misspoke – it’s the transitive property, but you get my meaning.

If you want to drag in 3rd party opponents, then a loss by Florida to Ole Miss would be ‘worse’ than a loss by Texas to a 2-loss Tech team and would/should have disqualified them from playing last night, right? Regarding the hypothetical UF-UT matchup, let me see if I follow your logic:

UF > OU; UT > Big XII.

WTF?

Texas’ performance against OSU has minimal value as a basis for determining whether Florida and the SEC are better than Texas and the Big XII. Do you really want to dig into all of this "best win" / "worst loss" crap? By that logic, UF’s game against The Citadel and OU’s game against Chattanooga – both I-AA teams (which I know you SEC folks have a penchant for scheduling) – should have been counted in the SOS calculation, which would have probably dropped both of them out of the game.

The fact of the matter is that Texas fans have consistently claimed that on the field results should be the ultimate factor when deciding the best teams. The only consideration of the ‘worst loss’ issue was with respect to breaking the three-way tie in the South.

I don’t really get where you’re going with this argument – no one here is disputing that Florida wasn’t better than OU, or that the Big XII is a clearly superior conference compared to the SEC (unlike you, clearly). Besides the fact that one game is a totally subjective – and marginally instructive – basis on which to make such an argument, our contention is that you can’t even make that strained comparison because the best Big XII team didn’t play Florida last night. Our claim is that Texas would have made a better case for the conference. Since we didn’t get that contest, we can toss conjecture about what would have happened from now until Armageddon.

Levander,

I was just addressing a post about public perception “sinking in” to where most would feel Texas belonged in the game over OU.

If last night’s game affects that, then the Fiesta Bowl matters as well.

I think the public perception will be that Texas and Oklahoma finished in a 3-way, 7-1 tie where both had good arguments… but that ultimately both would have lost to Florida.

In retrospect, the games should have been:

Texas vs. Utah for the National Championship
Florida vs. USC in the Fiesta Bowl
Oklahomo vs. Alabama
Texas Tech vs. Vagina Tech

Hey NATE- This offseason, you will have no comeback for: 45-35 and October 2009, is gonna be ugly for the Sooners.

Give it up. The plain fact is Back door Bobby left his starters in during games he was leading by 4 scores at the end of the year and ya’ll stole the B 12 and the Heisman by running the score up on average teams that were already beat. Wow you must be proud, fake , fraud scam. Sooner thieft and deception. When does the national media figure it out? Who knows, but OU is really in danger becasue where it really matters is in THE STATE OF TEXAS. ANd most sane people IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, including COACHES AND High School players know that 3 of 4 victories by Texas, and BCS failure by OU with a shaddy shaddy pedigree is the truth. Texas is on the verge of locking OU out from the top talent and OU knows it. Watch the cheating pick up and watch the OU fraud take hold in the recruiting world.

anyone who just assumes that florida would beat texas is a fucking moron.

I think public perception is a shitty way to determine the best team.

Which, I believe, is our collective point.

I think public perception is a shitty way to determine the best team.

As do I. Which is why I thought the initial post I responded to was stupid.

Public perception is meaningless. OU has a conference championship, and Florida has that plus the crystal ball.

Didn’t Bradford also shed a tear after the 2nd interception?

I read somewhere that within the SOoner locker room a divide was creating between players from Oklahomo and players from Texas. The dispute of course is…Who plays better football?

This could be good for schools like TCU, Texas Tech, Rice, Houston and SMU.