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Urban Meyer is the best coach in college football

At least according to two college football writers.

Matt Hayes of the Sporting News has Meyer first followed by Nick Saban, Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops and Brian Kelly. He has Mack Brown sixth, and does not have Marc Richt in his top 15.

Before anyone gets too upset about the rankings, remember that this is the same Matt Hayes who wrote this:

Anyone who has followed Texas quarterback Vince Young and Texas A&M quarterback Reggie McNeal knows there is no comparison. McNeal is a complete quarterback; Young is not. McNeal can make all the throws, and he can be dazzling and deflating when he scrambles away from pressure. Young is a tailback trapped in the body of a quarterback, the first guy you pick when choosing sides because God knows you don't want to tackle him.

McNeal has better career numbers -- and has been a more productive player -- than Young, yet Young is everybody's All-American. Young has every able-bodied sportswriter, television bobblehead and amateur analyst gawking over his quick feet and flashy moves. McNeal barely is known outside of College Station.

Young is a Heisman Trophy favorite, but he's not the best quarterback in his conference. Or even in his division.

So yeah.

Texas fans will like the list that Mark Bradley of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution put out.

He has Meyer first and Brown second followed by Jim Tressel, Saban and Frank Beamer. He has Stoops tenth:

Used to win all his big games; now loses all his big games. I wonder how he’d do in the SEC East. (Not well, I don’t think.)

The national media is catching on.

And of course we have ChrisApplewhite's rankings from last year. Shortly after making his list he took a leave of absence for 'personal reasons.'

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Wrong. Irving Meyers is the best corch in America. Go Gatah!

by Corrine Brown (D-FL) on Jul 15, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Remember when echeese referred to him as Urban Myth? That was allsome.

by HenryJames on Jul 15, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Eh?

by Corch Mark Thurman on Jul 15, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Some that inspired and continue to do so:

1. Barry Switzer
2. Dennis Ericsson
3. Jackie Sherrill
4. Dennis O’Leary
5. Houston Nutt
6. Mike Price
7. Nick Saban
8. The Weasel
9. Lane Kiffin (early results look promising)
10. Gary Barnett
11. Chuck Reedy
12. Rich Rodriguez
13. Schnelly
14. Grant Teaff
15. Woody Hayes

by Vasherized on Jul 15, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

1. Urban Meyer
2. Mack Brown
3. Charlie Weiss
4. Bob Stoops
5. Pete Carroll
6. George O’Leary
7. Mike Leach
8. Paul Johnson
9. Rich Rodriguez
10. Nick Saban

by ChicagoTTU on Jul 15, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Charlie Weiss, eh?

by Scipio Tex on Jul 15, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Well Notre Dame is your sleeper pick of the year …

by Vasherized on Jul 15, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

1. Urban Meyer
2. Mack Brown
3. Charlie Weiss
4. Bob Stoops
5. Pete Carroll

This is like a riddle on a kids menu. Which one of these is not like the other? Think hard now.

by Bartoncreek on Jul 15, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

1. Rant guy from Michigan State
2. Tywone Rillingham
3. Dennis Mangione (feels so good)
4. Bob Davie Crocket
5. Gerry “Gerald” Faust
6. Gene Chizk
7. The Duke guy who lost 30 games in a row.

by Watcher on Jul 15, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

How is it possible to rank Carroll lower than second?

by Alex on Jul 15, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Charlie Weiss is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

by Bennett Marco on Jul 15, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions  

“Remember when echeese referred to him as Urban Myth? That was allsome.”

Thats a lie.

I never said that and you can’t prove it

Your an overgrown water-boy who thinks Bob Stoops is God’s gift to coaching.

by echeese on Jul 15, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

How is it possible to rank Carroll lower than second?

Because he has the best talent in the country, plays in a weak conference, and has precisely 1 national championship.

Stop bricking bunnies every year, and you will move up.

by The General on Jul 15, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

No Schiano, Richie Sambora is going to be pissed.

by Buddy Garrity on Jul 15, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

‘precisely 1 national championship’

not true. only one bcs, but us traditionalists will take the ap over the upi/usatoday/bcs any day in the talking/dog-show-world of college football.

by glenn on Jul 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Remember when echeese referred to him as Urban Myth? That was allsome.

Once echeese’s alma mater, UTSA, gets its football program up and running, do you think he will move over to their board and stop fucking up all of ours?

by DBH on Jul 15, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

How is having the best talent every year a knock on coaching? Isn’t recruiting the best talent a primary attribute for a good coach? How many USC teams didn’t have the talent he’s had? The answer is a lot.
Also, you have to give him credit for at least another half championship. The AP Championship matters, we all would have accepted it last year if Florida had beaten OU and we had obliterated OSU.

by RolloTamasi on Jul 15, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with the thought that Carroll is and should be moving down these lists based on his conference. The Pac-10 shares the second tier of BCS football conferences with the ACC behind the SEC, Big 12, and Big 10, IMO.

And while it’s true that Carroll has 1.5 titles, it’s also true that he has had the best season in the nation exactly once. Also, he hasn’t had a post-bad-losses (Stanford, UCLA, Oregon State) title to wash away those sins. Mack has his post-bad-losses title to grant some mental separation from the unacceptable and unforgivable losses to Oklahoma.

No, Mack, I still haven’t forgetten 63-14 and 65-13. And I won’t until you put up two 53-point+ beatdowns on the Sooners.

by Huckleberry on Jul 15, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Watcher’s list.

I always look at it this way:

You are the new AD at a school who has great tradition, recruiting base, money, etc. You can break the bank and hire the coach you want. Whom do you pick?

I go Urban and then Pete Carroll.

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 15, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Not only were we unbeatable, but we ran a clean program as well.

by Barry Switzer on Jul 15, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack Brown’s record for the past 13 years is 135 – 29, which is truly remarkable.

by TaylorTRoom on Jul 15, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s also remarkable that during that time, he has won as many conference titles as RC Slocum.

by Crazy Joe Clark on Jul 15, 2009 4:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Crazy Joe, what item of knowledge do you derive from that? You post it as if it is meaningful- what conclusion does it lead you to?

by TaylorTRoom on Jul 15, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey assholes, go look up our bowl record from last year, compare it to your own, and then try to talk shit.

by Pac-10 on Jul 15, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow…pac10 is feisty. I guess if you could get anyone other than USC to go to a BCS bowl and get some national pub then things would change.

by uthookem on Jul 15, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

In hindsight ChrisApplewhite’s list is dripping with some serious faggotry. Toledo agrees Rich-Rod is not the same calibre coach Mack Brown is.

by Newy25 on Jul 15, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Charlie Weiss? Somebody put Charlie Weiss on a list of “best” coaches? Really????

Wow. That’s allsome.

by EyesOfTX on Jul 16, 2009 7:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Really uthookem?? Really?? We’ve put 7 different teams into the BCS. The Big12 has put…7 different teams into the BCS. Our record: 9-4. Your record: 7-9. STFU and use the google for once.

I love when Texas plays in the Rose Bowl, the tradition they bring is far better than most Big10 schools. But this bullshit about me being weak is fucking ridiculous. The bcs is decided by voters who don’t watch the games and make decisions based on pre determined assumptions and groupthink. As UT fans I’d think you’d have gotten sick of voters determining how good your team is, rather than the scoreboard.

by Pac-10 on Jul 16, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Pac-10 you’re awfully sensitive considering many of us are speaking longingly of joining you folks one thread over. Check it out here.

by Minnesotahorn on Jul 16, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Citing the conference’s overall 9-4 record doesn’t really refute his argument that it’s USC and a bunch of stiffs. USC’s record in the BCS is 6-1. The rest of the conference is, then, 3-3 in the BCS with no school having gone twice other than the Trojans.

The Big 12 has three schools that have gone to the BCS multiple times. Obviously Texas carries the water for the conference in overall BCS performance at 3-0 while Oklahoma has valiantly taken their lumps at 2-5. Not that there’s any bias in that perspective.

Arguing that the Pac-10 is or has been as good of an overall football conference as the Big 12 is stupid. To me that doesn’t matter, though, as the rest of the conference can drive into the Grand Canyon for all I care.

by Huckleberry on Jul 16, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

The AP Championship matters, we all would have accepted it last year if Florida had beaten OU and we had obliterated OSU.

Really?? It would have been nice to fuck up the BCS, but winning the conscientous objector portion of a MNC doesn’t exaclty give me wood.

by The General on Jul 16, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Rollo,

I think Pete Carroll is a helluva recruiter. I think he is a mediocre football coach. If you have the top talent in the country, and you aren’t playing in the championship game, you aren’t the best coach in the country.

This is also probably a reaction to the four letter networks constant cock chugging of Carroll’s craptastic cadre of current cadets.

Alliteration is astounding.

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