LSU wants to play in Texas
LSU is looking to upgrade their football schedule, and they've already added home and home series with West Virginia, TCU, Arizona State, North Carolina State and Oklahoma.
"Playing a big-name team every year is just something we’ve got to do if we’re going to compete for the national championship like we want to," says LSU athletic director Mike Alleva.
Not sure that's true playing in the SEC, but it's a commendable if not supportable position. And certainly the fans would embrace it like they do public drunkenness and political corruption.
"We want to look at playing a game like that opening the season in Dallas or Houston or Atlanta against a really quality opponent where we could make the amount of money almost equivalent to a home game," Alleva said. "Then the publicity and national exposure you get is really well worth it."
Not good.
"These games would be played in recruiting hotbeds that we want to take advantage of," added associate AD Verge Ausberry. "They give us some prime-time opportunities across the country."
Yes, this is horrible, this idea.
Now granted it would be nice to see some people from Louisiana come to Texas and then actually leave, but that does not outweigh the negatives. I don't think any of the Texas schools (save A&M) would be dumb enough to play LSU in Dallas or Houston, but I can see an Oklahoma State or a Notre Dame agreeing to it.
And LSU's home and home with Oklahoma hasn't been determined yet so imagine if OU and LSU played their games in Houston? This is no Truman rooting for the Germans or the Russians or whatever. We don't want this war to take place.
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We’re already thinking about moving our game against New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary to Lake Charles.
Face.
by The Clapper on Jul 16, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions
LSU has a home and home with TCU? Are they really playing at Amon Carter or will this be of the Jerry World variety?
by shockthenation on Jul 16, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
My understadning is that A&M will never play LSU in any regular season game ever again after the way they weaseled out of their last contract with us.
A&M vs. LSU would have been very attractive to A&M at Jerry’s World, and the idea was floated (by LSU). A&M said: “Go pound sand.”
by Ag_in_TX on Jul 16, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
Conversely, Texas should pencil in a middle of the pack SEC team for a home and home sometime in the next ten years (since football schedules seem to be drawn up like NASA projects).
We’ll continue to butter out bread in Texas but any inroads we can make in the southeast, particularly with an SEC guy in Muschamp leading the charge, certainly couldn’t hurt when trying to cherry pick the occasional OOS stud that forever reason doesn’t wanna go gatah.
by Vasherized on Jul 16, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions
Not sure about where TCU would play LSU, but will check with a friend in the ath. dept. I do know they are starting to take a Bobby Bowden like approach to their non-conference scheduling. Will play anyone, anywhere, and any time. They go to UVA and Clemson this year and it is starting to gain some traction among recruits.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 16, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
Sweet. I can now pick up my payoff from Les Miles without having to cross state lines.
by Will Lyles on Jul 16, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
Ole Miss is on the schedule.
Exactly. It’s so far off it’s like it doesn’t even exist.
I guess it would help to actually check the schedule. Hopefully it will be a meaningful game. Getting upset on the road to an unranked SEC team is not the goal.
I would like to see an Auburn matchup or an ACC team like Clemson/UVA … something a little more East. Since Deloss reads the site daily.
by Vasherized on Jul 16, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions
Vasher I think (and Scipio had a post about this some time back) that OOS cherry picking can be best assisted by the UCLA series rather than our trip to The Grove. Any kids whose interest we might pick with that series have to a) want to leave the SEC and b) have to do so enough to turn down good money. Those are some fairly hefty parameters.
by Minnesotahorn on Jul 16, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
Good point Minny.
We just have to find a good kid who wants to graduate. Boom, he’s ours.
But I generally agree with you. It’s always going to be an uphill battle getting any kid out of there. Winning a game on the road in SEC country might not pay immediate dividends but maybe some 8th grader from Coral Gables will remember watching the game and falling in love with Texas come February 2015. If he survives High School.
The Major and The Muschamp will win a few of these battles at some point.
And I’m really looking forward to the UCLA series.
by Vasherized on Jul 16, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions
And I’m really looking forward to the UCLA series.
That’s only because you consider Neuheisel a fashion icon. He is your Lagerfeld.
by HenryJames on Jul 16, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
I think a game in the DC area could be productive. Maryland or UVA at FedEx field would draw a legion of Texas Exes (like when the BoSox roll into town) and there’s some speedy, if raw talent in Prince George’s County.
by BatesHorn on Jul 16, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah, I’d like the idea of playing border top 25 teams in recruiting hot beds. Games we could win and impress out of state recruits. We could play:
Miami
Maryland
UCLA ( I know we are playing them)
Georgia Tech
Rutgers
Northwestern
these would expose us to recruits and increase our strength of schedule all without any serious risk of loosing a game.
by longhorn@berkeley on Jul 16, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
I made the Rutgers trip a few years back. Good fun in NYC. They booed Chris Simms…and they weren’t even Texas fans.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 16, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions
And I’m tired of living in this hotel, fire and ashes blowin’ cross the sheets, and I’m tired of livin’ on 23rd Street, strung out like some Christmas lights.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 16, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
You didn’t have to go to New Jersey to hear people boo Simms. Did they call his cell phone?
by Captain Obvious on Jul 16, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
I’ve been praying for a series against UNLV. Horns and Vegas, can’t ask for a better weekend. We are sticking to homegrown talent anyway minus Kyle Shanahan.
by Buddy Garrity on Jul 16, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions
LSU vs OU in Dallas gave me an idea. What if we played Oregon or Cal in Los Angeles? Or play Rutgers in Miami? See where I’m going with this?
by hot stove steve on Jul 16, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions
I say we go play Fresno State at their stadium. They are usually a borderline top 25 team, and the chance of losing is minimal. A little more california exposure couldn’t hurt. We could sure use Ricky #2 right about now.
by Rusty Shackelford on Jul 16, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
And I’m tired of living in this hotel, fire and ashes blowin’ cross the sheets, and I’m tired of livin’ on 23rd Street, strung out like some Christmas lights.
Ryan Adams is no Bryan Adams.
by Vasherized on Jul 16, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
We might as well schedule LSU ourselves.
They are already in on every decent recruit east of I-35. They are obviously going to find a way to play games in Texas regardless. And Les Miles is a far better recruiter than he is a head coach. This all adds up to making it worthwhile to schedule them in my opinion.
by anonymous on Jul 16, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
That shithead Jerry will make this happen. Just you wait and see.
by Alex White on Jul 17, 2009 4:04 AM CDT reply actions
I agree with anonymous. I think we should play them every year though I’m opposed to another nuetral site game unless the OU game were to get moved to a home and home series as often rumored.
I think an annual game vs. LSU would make a great rivalry, consistently help our SOS, and the travel would be easy on both sides fans. Most importantly it would simply make college football that much better by giving all college football fans a regular season game of interest.
From what I can gather there are only two cons.
1) You let LSU gain even more of a recruiting presence in Texas. You could argue that LSU’s foothold in Texas is temporary and that an annual game would solidify their recruiting presence. However, I think this is pussy excuse to not schedule an opponent. Additionally, whose to say it wouldn’t help Texas snag a few more big time recruits from Louisiana?
2) If the series were to get lopsided and Texas went on a long losing streak against LSU it could potentially damage our prestige and open the door for other Texas schools (mainly A&M) to start swaying recruits away from us.
Again, I think this is a pretty lame excuse. I think most bad ass recruits want to play for Schools that play other great programs regardless of there recent losing/winning streaks against a given opponent. Furthermore, in this hypothetical scenario, a lot more shit would be seriously wrong with the program if recruits were choosing to other Schools. Every recruit is different and I think they consider many things rather than focusing on a win/loss record against a certain opponent as there sole decision making process.
I’m not suggesting losing wouldn’t hurt to some degree, but it’s something you can rebound from, especially if you take care of business in conference, retain a great coaching staff, and keep the family atmosphere alive. Plus, it’s fucking Austin.
I guess I’m wasting my time b/c I’m sure it would never happen. I just don’t understand why. LSU should be playing Texas or A&M every year in my opinion. It just makes sense given the border we share, prestige of the programs, large population of Cajuns living in Texas and vice versa, economies and culture the two states share.
I live in Houston and I think most feel Louisiana is basically an extension of Texas. It’s like our little play ground. We go there to fish, hunt, eat, gamble, and party. In fact I’m leaving in 30 to go to Nawlins for my 30th. It’s a fucking shame I can’t talk shit to those mother fuckers about how bad we beat them last year.
by n-ea on Jul 17, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions
per Ag_in_TX:
“My understadning is that A&M will never play LSU in any regular season game ever again after the way they weaseled out of their last contract with us.”
If the “last contract” you’re referring to is the 16 year series from 1960-1975, why the hell would they have wanted out of that? The Ags were 3-12-1 in the series with ALL 16 GAMES PLAYED IN BATON ROUGE! (Actually must be an all-time record in stupidity)
Maybe if we don’t want LSU to gain any recruiting advantages by playing them in Texas, we could just schedule all our games with them in Baton Rouge like the Ags.
by Horn7 on Jul 17, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions
Ag_in_TX is right. LSU is not a program to be trusted. They pulled out of their series with A&M after getting beat 5 straight times. Can you say that the Tigahs were sick of getting embarrassed? I sure can. :D
“I think most bad ass recruits want to play for Schools that play other great programs regardless of there recent losing/winning streaks against a given opponent.”
That type of thinking did not help us in the early 80- mid 90s when we were overloading a bit of the schedule. Matter of factly, it delayed the arrival of Texas back on the National scene until the late 1990s. The only thing I have learned from past exprerience is that you do not get “red badges of courage” for playing an extremely hard schedule from the press. If we have to put a powerhouse on our schedule, let’s play the Buckeyes again. It was fun the last time around. Also, I can stomach Ohio State fans, LSU fan not so much. Let’s just say that Tigah fans make the Hogs fans look like saints. Ask any UT fan who went up to the CWS this year what the LSU fans were like.
“I just don’t understand why. LSU should be playing Texas or A&M every year in my opinion. It just makes sense given the border we share, prestige of the programs, large population of Cajuns living in Texas and vice versa, economies and culture the two states share.”
LSU did have a series with A&M from the mid 80s to mid 90s. They promptly turned tail and ran when the Aggies started to dominate them. Blame all the mess on LSU not on any of the Texas teams. Much as I detest Aggies, I am with them on the part of scheduling LSU. Stay away from them. They made their own bed now they can lie in it.
“I live in Houston and I think most feel Louisiana is basically an extension of Texas. It’s like our little play ground. We go there to fish, hunt, eat, gamble, and party. In fact I’m leaving in 30 to go to Nawlins for my 30th. It’s a fucking shame I can’t talk shit to those mother fuckers about how bad we beat them last year.”
I am from Dallas and a longtime Cowboys fan. I would like nothing more than the schedule the Houston Texans every year and beat the sorry ass crap out of them. It would drive the Texan fans absolutely crazy. Won’t happen though and it is a shame. Trashtalking Houston fans is so much fun.
There’s no upside to play LSU at this time. No sense in trying to bail Les Miles out. Let hime run the Tigah program into the ground and then let’s think about playing them. Until then, the only SEC teams we should think about playing are Vandy, S Carolina, and Ole Miss.
by RC Horn on Jul 22, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions

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