Recruiting Reprise Mid-July
We've got 19 in the fold with only a handful of serious prospects still on the radar. My views are informed from talking to a lot of different people in the know, common sense in following this stuff over the years, and reading pay sites. Let's take a dive in by position and see where we are and what's left to add - commits are in bold, prospects in italics:
OL
Tre Hopkins
Dominic Espinosa
Jake Matthews
I like our takes here and we'll add a third if it's quality. Like Jake Matthews, Hopkins is a stud that can play any position on the OL. I love his versatility and athletic ability. Espinosa is a battler cut from the Kasey Studdard mold - an interior OL all of the way and a solid future center candidate. I'm not enamored of him as the elite recruit as some sites have judged him, but he is Texas good.
Jake Matthews wants to go to Texas, but the person whose opinion he values most in the world with respect to football believes that his NFL development is best assured elsewhere. That's the reason for the "delay" - if that word can be used in July - from a kid who cares little for recruiting drama or self-promotion.
He definitely has a comfort level with A&M because of his brother and the reassuring old people scent of Sherman's musty staff, but he'd also like to play for a winner and experience big-time college football with a coaching staff that doesn't smell like doilies, bingo cards, and Vix Vapo-Rub. The longer Matthews holds on, the better it is for us. A third party like USC is usually the logical compromise school in these situations, but he'd like to play close to home. OU then? I don't know if Jake is really feeling the Sooners. Our staff needs to work on Papa.
Evan Washington is now a LSU commit. A great pickup for the Tigers. Washington was a nice prospect, a Longhorn lean, and a seeming fit for us, but we shyed away. Nothing dirty or anything. I'm cool with it.
QB
Connor Wood
Case McCoy
Done. This addresses our QB depth issues. I'm in the distinct minority, but I favor the idea of taking two QBs in 2011 too. Throw them in the pot with redshirts and let them battle it out with Wood/McCoy. Transfers and injury will trim it up like Carmen Electra's landing patch. QBs - unlike OL - are not content to sit and eat meals if they don't break the depth chart and they can always have value at other positions if they're athletes. So say Kerry Meier and Ryan Tanneyhill.
RB
Traylon Shead
We've landed Chris Whaley's brother, necessitating that we take at least two of the 2011 studs from what is shaping up to be one of the deepest RB classes in recent memory. Traylon is a great athlete and an obvious take as a prospect - wherever he ends up.
As I've held from the beginning, Lache Seastrunk is a pipe dream. I'm assuming that most of you who aren't in total denial have moved on. The only way this could happen would be a complete reordering of Seastrunk's life. I've sent him a Landmark Forum brochure and a Sammy The Bull Gravano biography.
WR
Darius Terrell - TE?
John Harris
Chris Jones
Darius White
We lost Ross Apo to BYU and the appeal of riding a bicycle with a clip-on tie for a year in Kinshasa or Sao Paulo and that's a pity because he appears to be a player. John Harris looks like a good possession guy and Chris Jones is Brandon Collins with an extra step. From the beginning, Darius Terrell has been the guy I'm least enthusiastic about, but he appears to be a future TE project. The refreshing thing about this recruiting class is that we have no reaches - so take any mild critiques in that vein.
We need a bellcow here. Someone that will make safeties shit out part of their small intestines and fake patella pulls to avoid being posterized. Hello, Darius White. We're Darius White or bust here and I still like our odds to get his signature.
DT
Taylor Bible
De'Aires Cotton
Ashton Dorsey
We're loaded here and I think Taylor Bible is arguably the best player at his position in the state. Dorsey is also big time. Cotton looks to be solid, but I don't see the clear upside of the other two (based on his grainy junior film). Given our luck here, I fully expect Dorsey to rob a Brownie troop, Bible to be struck with three point stance carpal tunnel syndrome, and Cotton to be diagnosed with agorophobia.
DE
Reggie Wilson
Greg Daniels
Jackson Jeffcoat
Reggie Wilson joins Taylor Bible as The Defensive Player I'm Most Excited About. I love everything about him. Anyone know his sign? I'm just, like, interested. Greg Daniels is a sleeper physical freak and the type of prospect we absolutely should be signing.
Like Darius White at WR, Jackson Jeffcoat is the guy we're waiting for and he is, by all accounts, a Texas type of kid. I'd lay odds on the good guys though I would be concerned if Dad lands a NFL gig in SEC country or a college job at an elite program.
LB
Tevin Jackson
Aaron Benson
Aaron Franklin
Jordan Hicks
Love what we have in the fold. Jackson and Benson are exactly what we want. Franklin passed the knee surgery recovery test with our staff and we like his speed (legit sub 22 in the 200) enough for an offer. I hope it's not all of the straight line variety. I'll watch his senior year with interest.
Jordan Hicks is a fabulous talent and a guy I really covet - we're talking Derrick Johnson type of talent. I would hope that we're willing to wait on him, with or without Franklin. I don't think he goes to Ohio State and that he ends up somewhere warm.
I never thought we'd land Corey Nelson and I'm cool with him at A&M. I think he'll be a player in the 3-4 at OLB. Rashod Favors has been discussed as a possibility, but I think he's a very remote possibility at this stage.
DB
Adrian Phillips
Carrington Byndom
Adrian White
Bryant Jackson
Tyler Stephenson
The Ahmad Dixon recruitment now makes sense given the news that he's now camping at LSU and Auburn despite a Baylor commitment. If you haven't made sense of it, try reading this again. It's a disgrace, but all you can do is laugh.
Adrian Phillips is a freaking baller and he could just as easily play a Quan Cosby role on offense, but I'd like to try him out as a DB. We need ball skills if we'd like to intercept some balls rather than bat them down with both hands.
Right now I have a sneaking suspicion that Adrian White may be a better prospect than a football player and I'd like to see a senior year from him in which the latter catches up with the former.
Bryant Jackson and Carrington Byndom are this staff's confirmation of what I have always believed: when you see the skinny East Texas kid who can run and is willing to hit, you always take them. Always. Weight can be added - raw athletic ability and determination cannot. The fact that Byndom is a MENSA member is a nice bonus.
As for Tyler Stephenson, he fits the East Texas skinny kid analysis despite being in DFW. He's a take in my book, damn the numbers. He also has the grades.
Randoms?
Despite the camps, the internet, 7 on 7s, increased exposure, scouting services etc. there's still a score of outstanding prospects flying completely under the radar who are Texas good. Many of them require a little projection, a position change, or a round of HGH at TCU to fully realize their potential. Will we save room for one or two? The numbers suggest that we won't, but I wouldn't be shocked to see an unknown added to the fold.
What are your thoughts?
What takes this class from very good and makes it great? Any two of Jeffcoat/White/Hicks? Or is simply fleshing out a couple of more needs?
How many do we take in all?
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The Matthews recruitment fascinates me, because I do think he wants to come here, his dad doesn’t, and this time, no street agents are involved or OU Boosters. It’s just fascinating watching Jake Matthews struggle with outgrowing his father’s shadow.
The behavior of Art Briles over the last couple of years is starting to piss me off, between the recruiting games and voting us 4 or 5th in the final poll. Makes me wonder what went on when Kendal was here.
by BatesHorn on Jul 16, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions
Bates:
I agree on Matthews. I think he obviously values his father’s opinion a great deal (as he should) and if we can get Dad to even neutral territory, Jake is a Horn. However, that would require some doing by our staff in explaining what we’re trying to do and how our offense will evolve with Garrett Gilbert at QB, a healthy TE, and a RB that can carry the mail.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions
That A&M line coaching from the NFL has done real good so far. Last year he turned a bunch of fat slobs into, well, fat slobs. If you have NFL talent and are willing to work, it doesnt matter a whole helluva lot where you go, really. So you might as well go somewhere good.
by Nth Handle on Jul 16, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions
Carrington Byndom, a smart fellow, wot wot.
…Sorry, that’s all I had to say.
by TXinDC on Jul 16, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions
“a coaching staff that doesn’t smell like doilies, bingo cards, and Vix Vapo-Rub”
There’s nothing that ails you, Scipo Tex, that some good liniment oil and Carter’s Little Liver Pills wouldn’t fix.
by Coach Sherman on Jul 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know anything about any of this but I think Jeffcoat’s sis commitment to OU spells doom for the Horns.
by Guy LeFleur on Jul 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions
“We need ball skills if we’d like to intercept some balls rather than bat them down with both hands.”
Nobody catches the ball on my side of the field.
by Rod Babers on Jul 16, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions
Give me Matthews and Hicks and I’ll be beyond pumped. I’ve never felt good about Jeffcoat, and White seems a little too spacey. Love the DT takes.
by Amos Moses on Jul 16, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions
Bates, Briles voted Texas 6th (not that I’m keeping score or anything).
by TaylorTRoom on Jul 16, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions
Scipio, any thoughts on Deandrew White and why Texas hasn’t jumped into that mix? If the kid got his grades up I guess I thought he could take Apo’s spot.
by shockthenation on Jul 16, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
You think Dixon is generating revenue now? Wait until we introduce him to Carroll and Kiffin.
by Will Lyles on Jul 16, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know anything about any of this but I think Jeffcoat’s sis commitment to OU spells doom for the Horns.
If there were a lot of data suggesting elite football prospects follow their sisters to college, I would be worried too. But there isn’t and I think Jeffcoat ends up at Texas.
We will certainly have PT available on the D line.
Darius White seems to be enamoured with OU right now because of the attention they’re also giving to his teammates. And their mommas. And their … hopefully it’s a temporary flirtation. We don’t want to be playing against this guy for 3 years.
Love the DB and LB classes, even if we don’t get Hicks. He’s loved Texas from the get go and seems willing to leave the state, so why the fuck not?
Daniels is the kind of kid that OU would turn into a freak within six months on campus. Let’s hope we have the same, uh, serum.
Terrell earned high praise at recent camps against some solid competition. At worst, he ends up as a fast TE with great hands. Who knows if he can beat out the other seven blocking surfaces we already have on campus.
With the recruiting timetable accelerating seemingly every year, it’s not too early to start rolling the dice on the Aaron Green/Malcolm Brown sweepstakes. Any thoughts?
by Vasherized on Jul 16, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions
DEANDREW WHITE HAS GRADE ISSUES AND WE WANT HIM TO GO TO A BIG PROGRAM
by john on Jul 16, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions
WE WILL END THE CLASS WITH 2 MORE COMMITS FRANKLIN AND SOME UNKNOWN
by john on Jul 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions
AARON GREEN AND MALCOLM BROWN ARE FAVORING USC AND TEXAS EACH. I THINK WE GET ONE OF THEM DUE TO EARLY PLAYING TIME AVAILABLE. USC IS STACKED AND OU HAS BROUGHT IN 2 GUYS
by john on Jul 16, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions
QUESTION WHY ARE WE NOT PURSUING JEFF LUC CAN U IMAGINE HIM AND HICKS THAT WOULD SCARE THE FUCK OUT OF ANY OFFENSE
by john on Jul 16, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions
sorry caps lock. Muschamp is building a great defense.
Okafor
wilson
bible
howell
Keenan robinson
Tevin jackson
aaron benson
Adrian white
marcus davis
Christian scott
earl thomas
by john on Jul 16, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
We had some fundamental recruting problems on offense and defense before applewhite and muschamp got here. We have loaded up on great o and d-lineman
by john on Jul 16, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
“He definitely has a comfort level with A&M because of his brother and the reassuring old people scent of Sherman’s musty staff”
I had to read this a couple of times before I realized you were talking about the coaches…not Sherman’s ‘hang-down’.
by Turn the page, Fred on Jul 16, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
“If there were a lot of data suggesting elite football prospects follow their sisters to college, I would be worried too. But there isn’t and I think Jeffcoat ends up at Texas.”
If you don’t think his mom and pops aren’t talking to him about the ability to see both their kids every time they drive to Norman for a sporting event then you’s is crazy.
by Guy LeFleur on Jul 16, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
QUESTION WHY ARE WE NOT PURSUING JEFF LUC CAN U IMAGINE HIM AND HICKS THAT WOULD SCARE THE FUCK OUT OF ANY OFFENSE
Ha. I love this game. It comes up every year.
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p3wn!
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ipowers
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by Vasherized on Jul 16, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
ou legend James Hale has this radio show here in Capital City where he calls recruits ou is in on and pretends to interview them, all the while pushing ou on them. He had White on yesterday and probably had to change his pants afterward. He asked White repeatedly why he ‘liked ou so much’ and how he saw himself fitting on in Norman. Hale does this sort of giggle and pigsqueal whenever his guest says anything even remotely amusing. It was all pretty embarassing.
by Ransom Stoddard on Jul 16, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
Jeffcoat – ou cause of his sister.
Hicks- osu cause it’s home
Matthews- a&m cause of scheme
White- Stoops sucking sanders and favors dicks
by john on Jul 16, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
Can u imagine Swine Flu and Henry James that would totally destroy! the Bob Stoops out of World of Warcraft.
p3wn!
by Nordberg on Jul 16, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
Darius white is in love with ou because of the love they are showing to his teammates. Texas is only in it cause his mom and education.
by john on Jul 16, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
Snarktastic write-up and summary, only made better by the d-baggery of dear john.
by jc25 on Jul 16, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
I want to buy Willie Lyles.
Hmmm. That may have not got out right.
by exuLt on Jul 16, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions
Scipio – where do you think each of the DB commits play, CB or S?
by Horncasting on Jul 16, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions
I think the adrian’s play corner and the others play safety.
by The General on Jul 16, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t think Jeffcoat’s dad will be attending any of his son’s games in college, unless they play the team he coaches for.
by TaylorTRoom on Jul 16, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
I think we should hire Jeffcoat’s dad as a coach. He’s got a lot of respect around the sport and can recruit.
I do think Jeffcoat comes here, the sister stuff is silly.
by CloseToJumping on Jul 16, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
I like Adrian Phillips at WR. No need to repeat the Deon Beasley mistake.
by Newy25 on Jul 16, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions
“DEANDREW WHITE HAS GRADE ISSUES AND WE WANT HIM TO GO TO A BIG PROGRAM”
What the fuck does this mean?
I was told in track season White has issues, but isn’t a complete loss. He will need to make some ground up and if the Horns don’t land Darius I would hope they continue contact with DeAndrew.
I find it interesting how things play out at different schools. UT doesn’t offer Nelson and White’s teammates and this seems to have some impact on the process. Not sure if it is the kids or the coaching staffs. Texas doesn’t offer White, but does offer Hopkins and no problem. True shame high school coaches pull this shit.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 16, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
We only have so many scholarships to give out each year, Buck. If we could offer 100 guys and take them, we honestly wouldn’t miss on a single player. We’re Texas.
by CloseToJumping on Jul 16, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions
“I still like our odds to get [Darius White’s] signature.”
That’s funny, because pretty much every OU write-up I’ve read says the same thing about White signing with OU. So go the blinders. I think he’s a coin toss.
What the hell is up with UT’s RB recruiting? There’s an embarrassment of riches at every other position, then some guy at RB that OSU wouldn’t even offer.
“[Jeffcoat] is, by all accounts, a Texas type of kid. I’d lay odds on the good guys”
Yeah, this statement is complete bullshit. If he was a “Texas type of kid”, he would’ve committed in March. I’m shocked Brown is still allowing him to be recruited. I’d lay odds on no one at this point. He’s spoken about as much as Silent Bob in a class for mimes.
UT did an outstanding job at DT, DE, and DB. Adding Jeffcoat and White would make this the far and away best class in the Big 12.
by NateHeupel on Jul 17, 2009 12:07 AM CDT reply actions
great update, scip. thanks much. it has been a while since i’ve had any kind of handle on what we are doing.
i certainly hope we get at least a couple of the remaining targets. because i still feel a good o-line is the foundation of any good team (whatever the latest pablum oozing out of the okc area), i still have hopes for matthews. hope we can flip his dad at least to neutral.
sounds like you are still pretty bullish on some guys i have been leaning toward iffy status. that’s great to hear. we need them.
also, as a card-carrying geezer i can tell you vicks isn’t spelled that way.
by glenn on Jul 17, 2009 12:16 AM CDT reply actions
Sherman and staff are proving to be pretty solid recruiters. Joeckel, Nelson and Hicks could play anywhere. I kind of like Jameill Showers as well. By all accounts I’ve read, their LA pickups are all solid prospects, especially Fobbs and Jackson.
by dedfischer on Jul 17, 2009 7:25 AM CDT reply actions
“I was curious to see how you guys are trying to explain away the Augie Garrido situation”
Well, he drank five glasses of wine, drove, and got caught. Is there some other version of the “situation” that I don’t know about?
by Nordberg on Jul 17, 2009 8:25 AM CDT reply actions
Newy25
I like Adrian Phillips at WR. No need to repeat the Deon Beasley mistake.
Phillips is definitely gifted with the ball in his hands, but he’s extremely physical, weighs 195, and likes contact. No Deon in his game. But he is a versatile enough dude that he could definitely make an impact on offense – no question.
As for the DeAndrew White convo above, I’ve been advocating him since I saw his film and read about his track exploits. I had him as one of my dozen most coveted recruits in Texas back in February (2010 Juniors). I do think grades may be prohibitive. Our staff doesn’t just think in terms of getting some qualified but also whether they could stay in school. On the latter point, I’d prefer we make changes in our support system (specifically who runs it) but that’s a post for another day.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 17, 2009 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
Ahh, arrogance at its finest:
“We only have so many scholarships to give out each year, Buck. If we could offer 100 guys and take them, we honestly wouldn’t miss on a single player. We’re Texas.”
In all honesty, then why doesn’t Texas land the top 2 prospects at each position in the country year in and year out.
Or not lose recruits to BYU…
by PhilZ on Jul 17, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions
Scipio or General: Care to share the Darius White development?
PhilZ: You, sir, are a fucking idiot. I had a sarcastic reply ready to go, but was afraid you’d miss it.
by ctex80 on Jul 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
" or a round of HGH at TCU to fully realize their potential." TCU is squeaky clean Ace! Watch it with the insinuations or was that an out right accusation?
by Putt on Jul 17, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions
Damn Buck. You must have some powers of comprehension the rest of us don’t have as I can’t see to find anywhere in Nordberg’s response that he used the word’s innocent night out with a few glasses of wine.
The way I read it was Augie had five glasses of wine, decided to drive, and got arrested. Please feel free to explain how I misread what Norbderg wrote. Realize I am not very smart and missed where he made an excuse for Augie or denied what happened.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
So let’s see if we understand The Bucktard. Garrido is pulled over for drunk driving, pleads guilty to drunk driving and is sentenced to four days in jail and given a $500 fine…for drunk driving. But there is something else going on. Got it.
by HenryJames on Jul 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions
Scipio, Thanks for the reply on DeAndrew. The person I spoke with felt that if Jamaal Charles could get into and stay eligible at Texas White wouldn’t have an issue. All could be just a person acting like they were in the know as they aren’t in a position to have access to the transcript nor test scores. I do feel that Mack sometimes gives up on those kids too fast.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 17, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions
Apparently Buck came over here to argue against points nobody has made.
by Horncasting on Jul 17, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions
“The” Buck,
Seriously: What more to the Garrido case is there? He drank too much and drove afterwards (which is bad, bad, bad!). He pleaded guilty and is paying the price.
If you have proof Augie garroted a hooker or passed troop location information to al Qaeda, do tell.
by Woody Bombay on Jul 17, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions
Or held a screwdriver to a girl’s throat or hit his friend with a bat…
by HenryJames on Jul 17, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions
or was part of a gang rape, shot a teammate over an argument about a cassette tape, slept with an asst. coaches wife after sending the coach on a recruiting trip, discharged an automatic weapon out of the athletic dorm window, warned his starting quarterback that he was under DEA surveillance, fuck it……Vasherized. Can you just whip up a template to cover any possible transgression.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 17, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
Or starred in “Stone Cold” as a renegade cop who infiltrates a dangerous biker gang.
by Woody Bombay on Jul 17, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
The sentence Augie got is well within the range for a short final on a DWI 1st in Travis County. 100’s of people every year do exactly the same thing on their cases. Nothing to see here, seriously.
by Steve Nebraska on Jul 17, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
Damn Woody, I thought that was a documentary about Brian’s time in Norman.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 17, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
Politicians in Austin have had a track record of declining the breathalyzer and somehow retaining their driving privileges without much punishment.
Garrido, in contrast, appears to have told the truth immediately and has accepted responsibility. From this morning’s account in the AAS (with link to follow). Note the unavoidable baseball metaphor in Judge Elisabeth Earle’s remarks:
“Garrido was arrested about 1 a.m. on Jan. 17 while driving his Porsche Cayenne west on Sixth Street, after an officer in the department’s DWI enforcement team noticed the car’s headlights were not on.
After a sobriety test, Garrido told the officer he had five glasses of wine and was intoxicated, police have said.
He pleaded guilty on Feb. 2.
“It’s highly unusual for someone to plead guilty so quickly,” Earle said Thursday. “He stepped up to the plate, figuratively, accepted responsibility and admitted guilt.”
Garrido underwent alcohol counseling and has met with members of Mothers Against Drunk Driving. "
by Parlin Hall on Jul 17, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
Garrido underwent alcohol counseling and has met with members of Mothers Against Drunk Driving."
Some of whom he has probably hit on.
by HenryJames on Jul 17, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions
Why is a UT homer taking blatantly false cheapshots at TCU? TCU is no threat to you, Longhorn. Ease up. It is complimentary of TCU that you would choose to jab at us, as we are clearly the second best program in Texas these days. A longhorn has to have someone to pick on with Aggie being irrelevant.
by JB on Jul 17, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions
We take shots at everybody. Even our own. See the reply above yours.
And we agree that TCU is good.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 17, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions
Whoa guys, lots of hostility over here, can’t take a little banter? What? Only 1 Big 12 title and 4* Nat’l Titles got you down?
I just hope you guys can land all these recruits and they are ready to go on Day 1. I mean, Louisiana Monroe is brutal way to start the season. A win there and it will really boost your SOS, maybe you could even hand out rings after the victory, or fly a banner around with the final score.
by Sarcasm* on Jul 17, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
“TCU is squeaky clean Ace!”
Oh. My. Goodness.
It’s a topic for another thread, but leave it to be said that there is substantial evidence that I am personally aware of that TCU is the place for 2* athletes to go and grow into their full potential.
by Ag_in_TX on Jul 17, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
Some 59 year old guy from Kansas is leading the British Open. Tiger is in 170th place and is in danger of missing the cut.
Golf Pricks Activate!
by Art Vandelay on Jul 17, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Now I’m depressed.
by Tommy Blake on Jul 17, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions
Ag, You are just pissed they ending up keeping Pat and you dumbasses wayyyyyyyyy overpaid for Fran.
Don’t worry. As soon as his buy-out is off the books I am sure you will only be 8-10 million in the red.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 17, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
but he’d also like to play for a winner and experience big-time college football with a coaching staff that doesn’t smell like doilies, bingo cards, and Vix Vapo-Rub.
I think you mean Gold Bond™ Medicated Powder, at least by day. From the Book of Mediocritus, 13:21-22. “By day the Lardass went ahead of them in a pillow of talcum cloud to guide them on their way to a 6-6 season and by night in a pillar of blue menthol fire to give them light, so that they could choke by day or night.”
by Spider on Jul 17, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions
Texas is my second favorite school in the state, and I appreciate that the vast majority of UT supporters are upstanding and intelligent college football fans.
And I also realize that the name of this site is “Barking Carnival”………..but if the reference to “a round of HGH at TCU” is typical of the crap that comes from Scipidiocy, does it mean that there is no moderator to keep bored 13 year olds who have fantasies of becoming college recruiters from slandering other legit programs?
Does your Mother know that you turned out to be such a classic douchebag, Scipster? Now just go back downstairs and give her back her laptop and things will be better. Maybe when you are older you can get your own.
I’ll tell you what……..give TCU 5 years of typical BCS payola under the direction of Gary Patterson and you’d be looking at us on even terms.
If the college football world had an level playing field, the BCS schools would get an unexpected dose of the reality that faces schools like TCU that actually develop talent instead of mothballing it.
5 years of a level playing field and Scipio would look good scalping tix outside of ACS.
As to the aTm “crew”……..get real and try a dose of honesty for a change. The “12th man” is NOT the 12th comMANdment, Thou shalt recount previous glories forever and forever, amen!"
Finally………the low life motherfucker with the Tommy Blake reference needs to crawl back under the rock he was under before he wrote that crap.
RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Doug B on Jul 17, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions
It takes a special skill to rail on someone for being immature, only to conclude your post with “RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!”.
by Nordberg on Jul 17, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
He’s right. Tommy Blake had a pretty typical college career.
Top 10 NFL prospects usually end up quitting school a game into their senior season to become captains of the burger flipping industry. Do not disparage this man Mr. Africanus.
by Trips Right on Jul 17, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
“…schools like TCU that actually develop talent…”
Boy, Barry Bonds sure has developed a big head over the years. Is that the kind of “develop” you mean?
by Huckleberry on Jul 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
“"We only have so many scholarships to give out each year, Buck. If we could offer 100 guys and take them, we honestly wouldn’t miss on a single player. We’re Texas."”
39-33
by Tim on Jul 17, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
Doug B,
Suffice it to say that I have very good reason to believe that things are going on at TCU such that I would not want my family members nor other kids I know to be involved in athletics there. I will leave it at that.
by Ag_in_TX on Jul 17, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions
Nice to see you again, Tim. I knew we wouldn’t be apart for long.
by Full Retard on Jul 17, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions
And I also realize that the name of this site is "Barking Carnival"………..but if the reference to "a round of HGH at TCU" is typical of the crap that comes from Scipidiocy
You know, had this not been a rhetorical question you might have saved yourself the trouble of an unremarkable flameout full of BBS cliches that stink of dialup. As it is, you’re merely the thin-skinned idiot who burst through the door to show us he can’t write, all wrapped up in a school that most people keep forgetting is there.
If you’d known how important football was going to be to you, you’d have chosen your school more carefully. The talent that Texas “mothballs” certainly does.
by Spider on Jul 17, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
Ag_in_TX – I was a scholarship athlete at said school and can say without a doubt that nothing of the sort is ocurring.
Like most programs, TCU has had some turnover over the past few years (guys being removed from the team for disciplinary violations, guys transfering elsewhere, etc). If programs are so blatantly cheating as you suggest, the players who have been kicked off the team or that have transfered elsewhere would have likely reported it.
Sounds like Aggies that aren’t happy playing 5th fiddle in the state to me. Careful, or Baylor might pass you too, if they haven’t already.
by JB on Jul 17, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
I wanted to call this site either Carping Barnacle or Scipiocracy.
by HenryJames on Jul 17, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
wow, cockroaches are sensitive. Not sure about #2 though; tcu vs tech would be interesting. i have a feeling patterson could shut down leache’s mickey mouse shit.
by bucky on Jul 17, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions
Captain Obvious
July 17, 2009 at 8:39 am
or was part of a gang rape, shot a teammate over an argument about a cassette tape, slept with an asst. coaches wife after sending the coach on a recruiting trip, discharged an automatic weapon out of the athletic dorm window, warned his starting quarterback that he was under DEA surveillance, fuck it……Vasherized. Can you just whip up a template to cover any possible transgression.
None of that is ringing any bells.
by The Last 20 Years on Jul 17, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
“i have a feeling patterson could shut down leache’s mickey mouse shit”
Happened in FW a few years ago. Perhaps Prof. Boom should have taken notes.
by Blithering Idiot on Jul 17, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions
I recently held a seminar with the ags on how to close the gap with Texas in recruiting. One of the talking points was ‘street agents’ myth or reality?
by Barry Switzer on Jul 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
Happened in FW a few years ago. Perhaps Prof. Boom should have taken notes.
A couple of years before that Patterson held Tech to only 70 in Lubbock.
by HenryJames on Jul 17, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
Horned Frogs freaking out … aggies snarking at other schools for cheating … I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
by Woody Bombay on Jul 17, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
“39-33”
Your best season, EVER. And it ending with a giant, gaping, vagina mudhole in the Cotton Bowl to a second rate team led by a QB who was only good enough to backup Colt McCoy.
Meanwhile your QB, the badass that he is used that amazing season to project himself to…walking on with a CFL team?
What must be worse is knowing what is going to happen in September this year in Austin. The mudholing of all mudholing. No amount of pirate jokes or complaining about officials with lessen the pain of the straight 59-7 bitch slap we put on you. But please feel free to quote that score like the badge of honor that it is. A Symbol or your greatest season ever being able to catch Texas during the 4th game a a series against all top 10 teams.
by Newy25 on Jul 17, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions
Where are you getting the 7, Newy?
by You can call me Mr Blood on Jul 17, 2009 7:56 PM CDT reply actions
True of all WM defenses, we give up a 6 play 80 yard scoring drive to start the 3rd quarter.
Nothing else.
by Newy25 on Jul 17, 2009 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
Scip—-good effort. Hicks has the kind of talent and nose for the ball that you find once a decade—-stealing one like him from a football country state would be the greatest heist since the Brinks robbery.
Jeffcoat can play the game period. He is every ounce the same kind of difference maker that Hicks will be—-his ability to play with quality inside and outside will pay huge dividends because flexibility has become the bargaining chip for DC’s in their schemes.
You never have too many quality linemen—-Matthews would be a nice pickup but not a crushing loss if he opts elsewhere.
RB’s and WR’s are head cases from the get-go so I refuse to enter into those sweepstakes but I’m thinking there was a reason I learned early that speed kills and that’s all I have to say about that.
I saw Wilson this spring and yikes—-big time talent in Haltom City. You were right about Bible—-he reminds me of a bigger Kasey Studdard (remember his h.s. defensive highlights) with that don’t know any better motor burning. There is a jr. DB at South Houston (Leroy ??) that is some kind of suspect—-bet my hat, ass, and overcoat the Major is a frequent visitor in old Pasadena these days.
Thanks for the football talk Scipio—-
Mike
by Texasfootball on Jul 17, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
dixon appears to have been at a+m recently too.
agent pimps player out. colleges whores themselves to get him to commit. whores and pimps as far as the eyes can see.
that would be a great theme for a party.
by English Ag on Jul 17, 2009 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
TexasFootball—
Leroy Scott. LSU is the team to beat. I hope we stay on him. Big time stud.
by CloseToJumping on Jul 18, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions
Scipio: Great analysis. Thanks for the update. Also, basically the same thing I’ve seen on this and other websites since March (this is not a criticism at all) — which tells us how little has been added to the signing list in the last three months. That’s the reality when you grab so much talent so early.
“What takes this class from very good and makes it great? Any two of Jeffcoat/White/Hicks? Or is simply fleshing out a couple of more needs? How many do we take in all?”
Filling positional needs is less important than adding quality. Studs. Difference-makers. Godzillas. The class is fine as is. There are spots for those still uncommitted, a late bloomer or two in January, maybe even an out-of-stater.
Continued attrition will allow the staff to sign 22-23 in February. Personal wishes: More speed, esp. at DE, OLB, secondary.
by ed on Jul 19, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
2 of Jeffcoat/White/Hicks pretty much is a perfect way to sum up what I would consider a great recruiting class.
by TTomTerrific on Jul 20, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
According to ESPN’s recruiting page, Matthews is down to A&M and USC and Stephenson has committed to Baylor. I wish we had pulled the trigger on Washington once word got out that Matthews’s dad wasn’t high on us. I hope Matthews chooses A&M. If they have a meltdown again this season both Matthews and Nelson could be pulled away.
That leaves us down to Franklin, Hicks, Seastrunk, White and Jeffcoat known to have active offers (though I am thinking the coaches may have stopped chasing Seastrunk).
by Ricky on Jul 21, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions
I think we’ll regret not getting Stephenson.
The Matthews news is not unexpected. Ever since his visit to Texas, a large portion of the fan base just didn’t want to believe what his Dad thought about our schemes. We can certainly debate the merits of that view, but the proof is in the recruiting pudding.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 21, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
Recruiting pudding is what I made when Vince committed.
by Bushwick on Jul 21, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions
“If they have a meltdown again this season both Matthews and Nelson could be pulled away.”
I see that reasoning on the TaW board as well. I don’t buy it. I think that once a kid has honestly committed, he thinks of himself as more and more tied to the school.
by TaylorTRoom on Jul 21, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions
If Sherman stays they are likely to remain, but if he gets canned I think the past has shown guys will bail. I would think most commits are going to be more tied to the coaches they have talked for 3 years than the school they visited once or twice.
The problem for us will be the fact that our coffers may already be filled by that point. While I am sure Briles wouldn’t have any trouble telling some of his lower quality guys to take a hike to make room for guys like these.
by Ricky on Jul 21, 2009 1:40 PM CDT reply actions
Sherman isn’t going to be fired. The Aggies can’t afford to pay two ex-coaches.
by HenryJames on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions
If Sherman lays an egg next season, I think the Aggies will say they can’t afford NOT to fire him. I don’t know where the money will come from, but if they go 4-8 and we win another national championship I find it hard to think they will not demand changes. Even if Sherman isn’t fired, should he be forced to dramatically change his staff you could see some decommits.
by Ricky on Jul 21, 2009 2:07 PM CDT reply actions
Disagree – Sherman gets a minimum of four years, and most likely five, to turn things around. And, he is putting together a very solid recruiting class as well.
And TTR and I have discussed this many times – most kids, when they commit, start becoming emotionally attached to that school, going down to visit and party and becoming part of that culture. Decommits do happen, but they really are quite rare (although highly publicized).
by Ag_in_TX on Jul 21, 2009 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
Aggies must love the fact Dennis Franchione got paid $4.5 million this year (and last year) not to coach their team.
That’s part of the reason the front office is in the red. Even if Sherm went winless next year, Byrne really has no options but to ride it out. Luckily, the Aggies should be back to .500 by 2011 and this bailout talk can be properly dismissed.
by Vasherized on Jul 21, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions
“going down to visit and party and becoming part of that culture.”
african americans feel right at home with the diverse and open minded “feel” of college station, tx. I would think if the ag recruiters were smart, they would keep them away from college station until it’s time to sign. That place is a rural caucasian shithole
by Dickie Thon on Jul 21, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions
We’ll see what happens…if Sherman continues to lose this season even with good recruiting classes and Tommy Tuberville is still sitting around doing nothing on the greener side of the fence, I think the pressure to drop Sherman will be intense.
by Ricky on Jul 22, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions
Ricky:
They have no money, man. Seriously. You’re asking an Aggie alum to write a 25 million dollar check.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 22, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions
I thought Aggie hubris knew no bounds!
Just read that Darius White has a top 3 of OU, Okie lite, and USC. Horns are no longer in consideration.
by Ricky on Jul 23, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
“Just read that Darius White has a top 3 of OU, Okie lite, and USC. Horns are no longer in consideration.”
where did we fuck that one up? Sounds like someons cheerios got pissed in for the white camp.
by Adrian Peterson on Jul 23, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
Mack has no effective post-February strategy
by The Clapper on Jul 23, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions
I truly believe Mack has built this set of conditions and if a kid doesn’t fit or wants to do things Mack’s way they Horns aren’t going to chase.
Feel like since the Martellus and Ryan P. experience Mack has said no more. Horns won’t wait for grades to clear or a kid to make up his mind. Kids for next year to look at and I have been told by some h.s. coaches that Texas’ staff has inferred that they are making the decisions on to offer or not to sophs which is absolutely insane.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 23, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions
Sounds like the way my sister’s spoiled kid reacts.
by The Clapper on Jul 23, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions
One of the downfalls of the Cowboys in the 80’s was when Gil Brandt started to believe he was a freaking genius so he started taking guys like Rob Hill, Jeff Rohr, etc..and not draft football players.
I don’t know if Mack is following a similar plotline, but when friends of mine who are long-time high school coaches are starting to wonder out loud about the process I do take notice.
by Captain Obvious on Jul 23, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions
yeah, sounds lazy too. holy shit mack, you might have to bust your ass on a kid who’s being recruited by some other heavyweights. Don’t discount them just because they don’t say yes right away. This good ol’ boy ego shit has to go. Okam is the only late one I can think of that we’ve nabbed in the last few years. Hopefully the lazy late recruiting will leave with mack to ad and gregs fat ass out the door. I can see coach boom being more proactive late in the game.
by Shock G on Jul 23, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
Better rethink that Aaron Benson committment……. Thought he should just buy a ticket if he wanted to just watch me run past him and his defense all Saturday long. Abilene smokes Cedar Hill to advance in the playoffs, baby!
by Herschell Sims on Nov 30, 2009 9:30 AM CST reply actions
You should definitely sign-up for the $25 free chip at Saturn. I won $200 playing there!
by Krystyna Lucey on Jun 2, 2010 4:57 AM CDT reply actions

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