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Big 12 Media Days preview

The Big 12 media days kick of tomorrow, and last week the media released their preseason poll and All Big 12 Team. Texas received the most first place votes (17 to OU’s 15), but they both tied with 172 points. So some shitheel probably picked Texas third on their ballot because he feels a Mike Gundy coached team is destined for big things.

The selection process is for the all conference team is typically the result of equal parts sloth and groupthink. Think of it like a lottery scratch off ticket. You get last year’s team, scratch off the seniors and then add guys you’ve written about or read what your colleagues have written about them. "So and so says this guy is good. I’m going to hit the jackpot for sure!" But I’m guilty of it myself. There may be a guy at Iowa State good enough to be on the first team, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to watch one of their games to find out.

Texas fans probably had a knee jerk reaction after seeing only four Longhorns on the list. They shouldn’t. There are some elite individual players in this league. Now if Texas doesn’t have a bunch of guys on the 1st AND 2nd teams at the end of the year, then we should go to the Pac 10!

Sam Bradford is the Offensive Player of the Year, and you don’t put the returning Heisman Trophy winner on the 2nd team unless you’re Steve Spurrier. But it doesn’t at all take into account the fact that he lost four offensive linemen and two receivers from last year’s team. That’s the type of beneath the surface stuff that used to separate the media from the average fan. That and an opposable thumb. I have a feeling he’s going to still put up fantastic numbers, but I wouldn’t trade him for Colt McCoy. And Sooner fans feel the same. We have the luxury of having the top two quarterbacks in the country in the same league. We got our guy, and they got theirs.

I haven’t decided how I feel about Kendall Hunter. Is he good, or did teams just choose to double Dez Bryant and Brandon Pettigrew and let him run free? Demarco Murray is the NFL version of Reggie Bush. He’ll make a great play but too often disappears against good teams. Wait for his yearly injury. I’d put Chris Brown ahead of him even though he punched that Rihanna chick.

Is it possible that Dez Bryant is a bit overrated at this point? He kicks the shit out of the bad teams, but against the four toughest teams on OSU’s schedule (Missouri, Texas, Tech, and OU) he combined for 298 yards and two touchdowns. Or is it just that he and Kendall Hunter have an inverse relationship because teams will rather give up yards on the ground than points through the air? Can’t really argue against Dezmon Briscoe either, but Jordan Shipley deserves a spot on the first team. If you can have four offensive tackles, you can have three wide receivers.

If you want to know what kind of conference the Big 12 had become, look no further than the offensive line. Four offensive tackles and a center. What’s interior line play? Toniu Fonoti is rolling over in his grave. I’m not a fan of picking an all conference team without guys at every position, but I’ll be damned if I could pick two starting guards. Maybe that dude from Oklahoma State and that dude from that other school. I don’t think Chris Hall is the best center in the conference because he may not even be the best center on his own team. I’ve got some reservations about all of the tackles. Brandon Carter is fat and wears too much makeup. Even if his switch to tackle is a success, teammate Marlon Winn is better. I’m banning anyone who thinks Adam Ulatoski is a first rounder. Russell Okung won’t have the best run blocking lineman tight end in the conference lined up next to him anymore. And Trent Williams is making the switch to left tackle.

Tight end was a no brainer.

The Big 12 has the two best defensive tackles in college football. If you don’t think coaching matters, Ndamukong Suh would like to have a word with you. What makes he and McCoy great are their ability to rush the passer. Guys who can do that from the tackle position are at a premium.

Sergio Kindle and Jeremy Beal are both no brainers at defensive end.

Two of the three linebackers are from right down the road in San Antonio and the other is an honor student from Jasper. And Texas didn’t recruit any one of them. I really like Travis Lewis. He’s a tackling machine. Joe Pawelek is very productive, even in the passing game. Sean Weatherspoon will be an All American.

When you combine Jordan Lake with Pawelek and Phil Taylor, Baylor is very solid up the middle. And that’s very important in the Big 12. Ten years ago. I guess Darrell Stuckey is good. He didn’t do anything against Texas, and that was the only time I watched him play. Earl Thomas is a witch and gets better every game. Dominique Franks is considered the best cornerback in the conference?

Thoughts?

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I guess the general consensus is that A&M will be really good this year.

by Newy25 on Jul 26, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

My thought is that it’s a preseason poll, which ranks it right above a steaming pile of poo in how worthwhile it is.

How many guys did we have on that list last year? Two?

by Will on Jul 26, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I figured this post was going to involve some predictions of what actually unfolds at the media day. I’ll throw a few out:

-Bob Stoops will call this “possibly the best team he’s ever coached”.

-Bob Stoops will bristle when questioned about losing a bunch of BCS games and retort with “I’d rather be playing in those games than not” or some such platitude.

-Bob Stoops will show up with no chin.

-Bob Stoops will say about his OL, “Yeah, we lost a lot of guys, but these guys all played a lot and they might be the best OL unit we’ve ever coached.”

-Mike Gundy will show up, breathing through his mouth, with his hair styled exactly the way it should look when he’s driving his canary yellow Corvette.

-Mack Brown will generally offend me with his whining and lamentations about some issue with the BCS.

-Mark Mangino will block out the sun.

-Whatever okie players are invited, at least one of them will say something shitty about Texas.

-Mike Sherman will require at least 60 minutes worth of napping between each interview. Bill Snyder will snicker and call him a pussy and then beat whatever QB he’s brought along into a state of catatonic silence.

by CloseToJumping on Jul 26, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d take Chykie Brown and Aaron Williams over Franks right now. Dominique Franks is this year’s version of Nic Harris. An overhyped reach.

by Trips Right on Jul 26, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

“What makes he”

yikes

by Dave on Jul 26, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Franks is at least a respectable football player. Nic Harris was awful. How he started for a top 5 team is beyond anyone with even a passing knowledge in football.

by HornsHornsHorns on Jul 26, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Good work, ctj.
 
Trips:
 
You are very dramatic.
 
Nic Harris was definitely out of place @ safety in the spread world of the Big 12. I’ll be curious to see how he does at LB.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 26, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Nic Harris was named to the team as a safety. He would have been just as undeserving had he been named to the team as a linebacker. How is that dramatic?

by Trips Right on Jul 26, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Here’s how you make a 1st team all Big 12 corner from Oklahoma look like a scout teamer: Pump fake.

by bighornfan32 on Jul 27, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

You wrote that
 
Dominique Franks is this year’s version of Nic Harris. An overhyped reach.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 27, 2009 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

No. Dramatic would have been touting Gideon over anyone on the media’s team. I was simply stating Brown and Williams are and will prove to be better players over the course of the season. Franks is a square pick. If I’m a coach I take the other two.

by Trips Right on Jul 27, 2009 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Your hate for Gideon is typical. The guy is a baller, and to quote Hurt Locker, “acquitted himself well on the field of battle.” He led the country in touchdown saving tackles. That’s a fact. You can look it up.

He’s like a Will Muschamp on the field. That should at least earn him 2nd team honors.

by SL Xpress on Jul 27, 2009 1:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Gideon will be a fantastic guy to have as our third or fourth safety over the next three years.

by Nordberg on Jul 27, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Where’s the stats for touchdown-saving tackles last year?

by Bo Jackson on Jul 27, 2009 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

SLX can go die in a fiery car crash.

by CloseToJumping on Jul 27, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

If you’re looking for me, I’m hanging out with Mangino’s FUPA.

by Bob Stoops' Chin on Jul 27, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Pretty sure OU’s kicker led the country last year in both both touchdown-saving tackles and flailing helplessly at kick returners running past him.

by ponderos on Jul 27, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I don’t think he got within 10 yards of Shipley.

by Vasherized on Jul 27, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

That’s not an exclusive club, vasher.

by ponderos on Jul 27, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

ponderos:
 
How will OU improve their special teams? I’m assuming Stoops made it an off-season focus.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 27, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I’m assuming that Stoops will yell louder, and that Jerry Schmidt will make them drink their own vomit and urine.

by HenryJames on Jul 27, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Ya’ll got one hell of a crack research team there at BC head-quarters. Brandon Carter was a guard last year, and he will be a guard this year.

Some things that you’ll never hear at Big 12 media days:

"It’s really all about field position and punting," said Leach.

"I planted a few trees and really have settled in for the long haul here in College Station," said A&M head coach Mike Sherman.

"It’s a tough place to recruit to," said Texas coach Mack Brown.

“This is a tough place to win at, not just anyone can step in and win 10 games a year here,” said Mack Brown

"I’ll turn this thing around, get a winning record here then go somewhere I can win long-term and sustain something, " said Baylor head coach Art Briles.

"I don’t think the bowls are a good way to judge a team or a head coach," said Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops.

"I’m really glad to be here," said Kansas State coach Bill Snyder.

"Big money donors and the dollars that come with them are corrupting college athletics and distracting us from the mission of educating students," said Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy.

"No thanks I’m stuffed," said Kansas Coach Mark Mangino.

"As part of our previous agreement, I’ll be sending Chase Daniels 20 percent of my salary for the rest of my career, " said Missouri coach Gary Pinkel.

"We’re really excited about our leagues non-conference match-ups," said Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe.

by Tim on Jul 27, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

That’s one of the main questions we fans have, too, scipio. There were multiple problems last year, everything from poor kicking, more lane responsibility, poor tackling, poor execution … OU’s special teams were nearly an all-around fail. Stoops used to put starters (read: best athletes) on the special teams and it helped, but then you ended up with injuries to key players (see Murray).

Stoops is a fan of high kickoffs inside the 5, allowing for a good coverage team (read: “good”) to stop the opponent inside the 20. I and a lot of others prefer finding some little Latin futboler to put the ball into the seats, guaranteeing we won’t see our kicker doing a dead fish flop at the 50 while the KR give a thumbs-up on the way by. Wish I got paid to make that decision.

by ponderos on Jul 27, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

*poor lane responsibility

by ponderos on Jul 27, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Don’t quit your day job, Tim.

by Nordberg on Jul 27, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Ya’ll got one hell of a crack research team there at BC head-quarters. Brandon Carter was a guard last year, and he will be a guard this year.

HenryJames: Didn’t Tech move Brandon Carter to tackle?
Scipio: Who fucking cares? It’s Tech.
HenryJames: Yeah.
Scipio: Tim will probably complain though.
HenryJames: Who fucking cares? It’s Tim.
Scipio: Yeah.

by HenryJames on Jul 27, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ll add a few more to ponderos, since I’ve harped on this for some length and depth.

Moreland struggled to put the ball anywhere near the end zone, and when he did it usually consisted of line drives that was fielded before much of the coverage unit even reached half way. When this happened, it started off a chain of problems including players over-committing and taking shitty angles that directly resulted from overcompensating.

Stoops eventually said f it, just kick it high and short. Even if they get it at the 35, at least they’ll have to put together a meaningful drive to score. The new rule to move the kickoff back 5 yards really fucked OU over at the worse time. So the first piece on the agenda this offseason is to find a kicker with some semblance of a postpubescent leg and some hair on his ass.

Stoops still plays starters on ST – that wasn’t the issue. Holmes, Harris, Jackson, Franks, Box & Travis Lewis were all out there at one time or another. They just fucked up gap assignments, stuck onto their blockers like magnets, one-armed tackled, shoulder-tackled, took poor angles and lost contain too many times. Murray ranked tenth nationally in KR, and most coaches will put starters out there if there’s a chance they’ll get good returns. When DM went down, guess who trotted out there as a substitute – the other thousand yard rusher who OU couldn’t afford to lose to a ST injury, alongside their thousand yard receiver.

So, the second part would be to continually stress discipline and the importance of contain, even if that hasn’t worked out so well. Find players who are completely focused toward and are aware of the importance of playing good special teams – they’ve had guys like this in the past, and not all had to be starters: Gutierrez, Russell Dennison, Will Peoples, pre-RB Allen Patrick, Matt McCoy, etc.

by WB_Heaven on Jul 27, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, WB. I couldn’t remember if they still had starters out there last year or not. Most times when we kicked off, I had my hands over my eyes.

by ponderos on Jul 27, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I actually enjoyed Tim’s quotes for once. I also found the OU discussion on Special Teams of value. This is the first entertaining thread I’ve read that was started by HenryJames.

by CloseToJumping on Jul 27, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I can’t stop laughing at Mike Gundy breathing through his mouth driving that canary yellow Corvette. Effing brilliant

by Las Pistolas on Jul 27, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Hornshornshorns— Franks is at least a respectable football player. Nic Harris was awful. How he started for a top 5 team is beyond anyone with even a passing knowledge in football.

Hey, Nic Harris was the only lowlife scumbag shitty enough to get Jesusbow to break the rules, Gatah! Chomp at him, and cause him to get a penalty.

In my book, that makes him solid gold.

by Will on Jul 28, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

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