Bradford vs McCoy stat of the day
Got this from FiesoleHorn over on BurntOrangeBeat.
Over the last 40 minutes of the Texas game, Sam leads his team on 2 scoring drives while throwing two picks.
Over the last 40 minutes of the Florida game, Sam leads his team on 1 scoring drive while throwing two picks.
80 minutes of football, a combined 3 scoring drives and 4 interceptions... in the two biggest games of the year against the only two legit defenses faced all year..... the season is on the line.... both opponents have withstood your strong start and punched back..... your teammates are looking to you to make something happen...... and you are statistically more likely to throw a pick than to lead your team on a scoring drive.
That's your heisman winner, college football. You picked him, not us.

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But I was his coach – and I choke on the big ones lately
by Big Game Bob! on Aug 2, 2009 10:24 AM CDT reply actions
During the same 40 minutes, Colt leads his team on 6 scoring drives with no turnovers. Tebow – 3 scoring drives, 1 pick.
by FiesoleHorn on Aug 2, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions
“That Big 12 trophy still sittin in my office!”
by Bob Stoops on Aug 2, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions
And stoopsie is still sitting on a nest full of eggs, clucking.
by SydneyCarton on Aug 2, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions
“That Big 12 trophy still sittin in my office!”
And there you have it…the only major sport where champions are decided by the media and not the play on the field.
College football might as well be gymnastics or figure skating…
by Ricky on Aug 2, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
The word from the ou controlled media is their offensive line will actually be BETTER this year than last so you can expect an improvement in this obviously skewed stat.
by RansomStoddard on Aug 2, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions
Touchdowns thrown in the last 2:00 minutes vs. SMU count as much as a TD’s vs. top 5 teams.
by David Klingler on Aug 2, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions
what was Tebow’s RRS? The UGA game? or the OleMiss game?
by scagnetti on Aug 2, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
I helped Big Game Bob will a MNC when I got suspended prior to the game
by Snoop Minnis on Aug 2, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions
And that’s yet another reason why I prefer McCoy over Bradford this year in the Big XII. Given offensive line and skill position changes, it will be harder for Bradford to match his performance of last year than it will be for McCoy.
by BEHorn on Aug 2, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions
I thought the Heisman was based on an entire season’s body of work, not two games?
by ponderos on Aug 2, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions
Here’s another 40 minute segment the miserable little bastard FiesoleHorn missed. The first forty minutes of the TT game. McCoy orchestrated magnificent drives of -2yards, 5 yards, 8 yards, 7 yards, 3 yards, and 14 yards. He also managed to fumble once and then throw a pick returned for a touchdown costing his #1 ranked team a shot at the national championship.
by SoonerSpy on Aug 2, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
SoonerSpy-
I have full confidence Sam Bradford will pile up stats against inferior competition again. Meanwhile Colt will just throw the ball over you and whatever team meets us in the Rose Bowl.
Have fun losing a 6th straight BCS game to Ohio State/Penn State in the Fiesta Bowl.
by Newy25 on Aug 2, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
entire season?
the heisman has never considered the entire season or texas would have two recent qb heismans and ou would not.
they give out the stupid thing before the entire season is over.
by glenn on Aug 2, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
Amen, glenn. The ex Mr. Kardashian won his statues based on one game.
Texas has fielded two of the three best QBs of the decade and they’ve both been robbed of Heismans.
by Woody Bombay on Aug 2, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
What an example of a girlish, hissy, cat fight. Both sides have proven their point. Both QB’s are overrated by a shitload.
The best QB and pro prospect in the Southwest is Vittatoe. He has as much or better mobility than Colt, has a much stronger gun than either Bradford or Colt, and his accuracy is as good as the other two. Just watch what happens when they all get to the pros.
by WestTexasGoldMiner on Aug 2, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
“Both QB’s are overrated by a shitload.”
Is Colt McCoy overrated? He was voted to the second team All Big 12 after he set a national record for season long completion percentage.
by Minnesotahorn on Aug 2, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
He has as much or better mobility than Colt
Vittatoe 45-(-31) -.7 ypc
McCoy 136-561 4.1 ypc
and his accuracy is as good as the other two
Vittatoe 58.9 ptc
Bradford 67.9 ptc
McCoy 76.7 ptc
I guess he might have a stronger arm, but I’m probably not going to take your word for it.
by HenryJames on Aug 2, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
Basically Texas will always lose the skating vote. Its simple; we are hated and out numbered by the sewing circle klan. Its best just to kick every bodies ass , never stop scoring and just make them hate us more from here on out.
by ousniffsware on Aug 2, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
i still wanna know where Tebow’s second sample game is from. He threw 12 incompletions in the OleMiss game, and didnt cough up the ball.
im not a Tebow fanatic like Danielson and the rest, but I also dont think its the same at all. He isnt asked to do the same things as McCoy and even more so, Bradford.
IMO, McCoy – and this aint no homer piece – has more to do and has accomplished more considering he’s the team’s leading rusher, two years running. Tebow is a close second in this category, but had Harvin. Colt dont got nobody else, and has the added deficit in talking to Greg ‘Stoic’ Davis all year/game long.
So what was Tebow’s RRS? Where else does the sample agree/disagree?
Where’s the imperical evidence, girls?!
This is a hissy cat fight, alright. But can we at least speculate upon whom is the pussy?
by scagnetti on Aug 2, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
“What an example of a girlish, hissy, cat fight. Both sides have proven their point. Both QB’s are overrated by a shitload.
The best QB and pro prospect in the Southwest is Vittatoe. He has as much or better mobility than Colt, has a much stronger gun than either Bradford or Colt, and his accuracy is as good as the other two. Just watch what happens when they all get to the pros."
This must be a joke. Smack from a Miner fan. I didn’t know they existed.
by bighornfan32 on Aug 2, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
It’s an interesting enough statistic.
I will say this though: QBs can often be the cause of an offense’s malaise, but they can also be its victim.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 2, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions
Here is the most important stat
Losses
Tebow 1
McCoy 1
Bradford 2
No question that Bradford came up short not once but twice during the seasons
He was like the bully who kicked the asses of the small guys but when a good sized person stepped up he got beat up
by The Final Word on Aug 2, 2009 9:20 PM CDT reply actions
The Stoops talk reminds me of something. I caught a bit of the 2001 OU-OK State game in a bar the other night. Didn’t see the end (16-13 OK State), but I did catch a stat about Bob and big games. In trying to do a bit of research, I found this article: http://www.dawgsports.com/2009/1/14/720317/why-is-bob-stoops-no-longe
Interesting read.
Anyway, Stoops is 33-12 vs ranked teams, 4-6 in bowls, 3-5 in January bowls and 2-5 in BCS games per this site: http://soonersports.com/school-bio/bob_stoops.html.
From 1999-2003, Bob was 8-2 vs top 10 teams. From 2004-2008, Stoops was 4-5. That’s still much better than OU pre-bob (0-9 the previous 5 years), but Mack was 1-7 from 1999-2003, and 6-4 from 2004-2008. I like the trends.
From 1999-2003, Bob was 10-2 vs teams ranked 11-25. From 2004-2008, Stoops was 10-3. From 1999-2003, Mack was 8-4 vs teams ranked 11-25. From 2004-2008, Mack was 8-0. Again, I like the trend.
From 1999-2003, Bob was 4-1 vs Texas. From 2004-2008, Bob was 2-3. Again, good trend.
by Callkevin on Aug 2, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions
I guess you all forgot the the rule in the NCAA handbook on pg 158, paragraph 3, line 10, which states, “any player whom loses to kansas state twice and texas a&m twice during his career is automatically disqualified from winning a heisman and/or playing in a national title game…ever… because losing to either team once, while embarassing, can be overlooked, but losing twice indicates such a profound level of inherent suckness that the two holy grails of college football, the bcs national championship and heisman trophy, must not be tainted by said players suckness soiled hands.”
by coltisabitch on Aug 3, 2009 2:37 AM CDT reply actions
So I guess taking a nationally televised bukkake from the same Kansas State in a confrence championship game and then soiling yourself at the sight of an SEC defense doesn’t preclude one from winning (a la Jason White), but losing in previous seasons does? No wonder anyone with any sort of football knowledge considers the award to be a joke.
by Flamingmonkeyass on Aug 3, 2009 3:47 AM CDT reply actions
This was already in the can actually, but it’s a nice counterpoint to the “accuracy” question.
http://www.windmilltilting.com/trj/accuracy-101-bradford-vs-mccoy
by ponderos on Aug 3, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
So ponderos are 200 WR screens factored into that POS analysis?
by springbranchhorn on Aug 3, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, ponderos is a fucking cocksucker on that website too.
by Nordberg on Aug 3, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
Who gives a shit???
This argument is a tired one – Both teams have quarterbacks that fit well into their respective systems. Switch them around and I don’t think either are as successful.
by UTHornFan014 on Aug 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions
Have you guys pried Blake Gideon’s fingers off his throat yet?
And I hate to remind all of you delusioniacs, but if ol’ Colt had shown up for the first half of the Tech game, the contest might not have come down to Gideon yakking up his nads on a room-service interception.
by Fecal McBee on Aug 3, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t k ow fecal. Has Brent V’s asshole grown back to its original size yet after he allowed the collective Texas and Florida offenses to run right through it? Does it make you all warm and fuzzy inside to know that he was outcoached by Greg Davis?
by Flamingmonkeyass on Aug 3, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
Fecal and ponderos, what’s on the cover of the OU media guide this year? Is it Gideon dropping the pick, or Crabtree running in the TD? Since that’s always your response here, I’m assuming one of those was the biggest play of the Sooner season…
by TaylorTRoom on Aug 3, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions
Actually I think the OU media guide has a picture of them celebrating their big bowl victory. Wait….
by flamingmonkeyass on Aug 3, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions
Probably has the 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007 and 2008 Big 12 Conference Championship Trophies. But that’s just a guess. Does UT’s have anything like that?
by ftf on Aug 3, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions
And seven or so championship rings.
Probably have to go back to the days of the all-white TU clubs to add up to seven, eh?
by Fecal McBee on Aug 3, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions
I’m pretty sure our NC was more recent. OU probably has to go back before their cheating days. Oh wait…
by dick on Aug 3, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions
And they say Longhorn fans live in the past.
by flamingmonkeyass on Aug 4, 2009 3:36 AM CDT reply actions
Or, maybe OU’s media guide will have a picture of the 5 heisman trophys won by sooners.
by 5heismans on Aug 4, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions
The Media Guide Cover will show this:
Big 12 Conference Championship Coaches:
Bob Stoops — 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
John Mackovic — 1996
Tom Osborne — 1997
R.C. Slocum — 1998
Frank Solich — 1999
Gary Barnett — 2001
Bill Snyder — 2003
Mack Brown — 2005
Wow, it just struck me: Mack and R.C. Slocum share the same level of success in the conference.
by BillyRay BillyBob, All American on Aug 4, 2009 2:07 PM CDT reply actions
Oklahoma is standing on the train tracks. Gonna be great watching them get fisted in Dallas once again. That JV line of OU’s will have Bradford running for his life, but he doesn’t have any wheels (unlike the best QB in the nation, Colt McCoy). Kindle may hit him harder than that apartment.
by Comeuppance on Aug 5, 2009 11:43 PM CDT reply actions

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