Cobi Hamilton, Brandon Collins,  Hindsight

Shipley, Chiles, Buckner, Malcolm Williams fighting for 3 starting spots with Kirkendoll, Goodwin and Greg Timmons. And only one of those are leaving after this year. Do we reallly need another guy this year or next and whose catches do you want him to get? Are we sure Payne couldn’t go to Arkansas and break their 2 deep?

My guess is that we’re going to be disappointed with our WR haul in 2010, unbelievably. It is already stacking in a manner in which we’ll screw it up. Mike Davis probably won’t be offered, if you look at all of the updates on him. Cobbs and the Georgia guy are unlikely bets. Darius Terrell is 2nd tier on other boards, but he might be first on our list. The Harris guy is rumored to be getting an offer and no one understands that one. Other schools are excited about what we’re going to be leaving on the table. If we’re lucky, we at least grab White in the midst of all of this.

- posted by closetojumpimg in the Cobi Hamilton thread last year. That’s called prescience, folks. With the loss of Apo and the fact that White isn’t coming here, this is a disappointing recruiting haul at WR.

Still wondering why we are not recruiting DeAndrew White. A kid that loves or loved Texas, with speed to burn, from a school whose players are talented and love the horns. That seems like a guy we take a chance on as he bleeds orange.

I love when people refer to the Mack Brown curse. Let me present Tommie Harris and Adrian Peterson as exhibit A to argue that theory. There are plenty of failures in recruiting but also plenty os success stories. It’s possible that the failures (Rouse, Perriloux etc.) failed because of personal flaws. Let me present those extremely talented players who ended up here but failed in the same way that those who did not end up here (Timmons, Jones, Joseph, M Johnson, etc). Curse be damned!

Dick, Payne couldn’t break the two deep at Arkansas unless he was asked to build a brick house.

I don’t think we can be certain that only Shipley leaves after this season. I also think we need about 8 capable players every year for 4 regular spots and a 5th spot that appears often. My argument is that this guy could certainly be filling in for what Collins vacated.

I don’t think the Arkansas depth chart is thin or weak in talent. They have a good program that is going to continue to get better. They’ll be a top 20 team out of the SEC under Petrino.

In terms of it we need another guy, I certainly think we need Darius White if we can get him.

I’m not sure Hamilton is Curse appropriate. He didn’t punk us.

We just showed up at his house ten minutes after closing time with a couple of warm beers and a half eaten bag of doritos asking for a date. Not surprisingly, he turned off the front porch light and got back in bed with with his original date who was on time.

It really sounds like we’re behind OU and OSU for Darius White at this point. USC was most likely ahead of us as well, but they seem to be done at WR.

What is our track record of making up ground during the fall in recruiting? And how did we move from 1st to 4th in the first place?

At that point, we didn’t know Chris Jones was going to be a National Top 100 guy and ranked as highly as or higher than Mike Davis.

Again, does this season’s ‘disappointing’ WR recruiting haul mean we are going to miss Cobi Hamilton? I went back and read that old article on Cobi and I find myself agreeing with HJ. Not good.

By all accounts, Chris Jones is going to be a stud. I’m sure it’s been discussed ad nauseum, but is there a good reason why we aren’t recruiting DeAndrew White?

From what I’ve read elsewhere, Chris Jones and DeAndrew White are the same animal and we’re only going to take one….-which makes about as much sense as turning down an Angelina Jolie blowjob because you had already burped the worm in the shower…

Hamilton has the size that our WR recruits need (guys like Malcolm Williams, DJ Grant, and Buckner). I don’t understand recruiting these small WRs unless they have world class speed or running ability. Given that UT is more passing oriented than the other elite programs (eg: OU, USC, Florida, tOSU) shouldn’t UT consistently be bringing in the best class of WRs?

Having said that about recruiting prototypical WRs, there is a case to be made for actually playing different types of WRs, not just the prototypical WRs. There should always be one WR in the Ramonce model who can take the short pass and make something out of nothing. That type of guy probably played TB in high school. At least one of the receivers should be a really fast TE (like Irby or Finley) who is not only an excellent receiver but can also block very effectively in the running game. That leaves room for two classic WR types (i.e. >=6’3", <= 4.55 40). The nice thing about recruiting the classic tall/fast WRs is that if they don't work out at WR you can always make them a flex TE. If that doesn't work out you can turn them into a traditional TE.

UT's recruiting ranking almost always drops as the recruiting year progresses (i.e. start fast, finish slowly) and almost always drops some as signing day approaches.

Deandruw White is a product of the academic restraints the football program has put in place in order to protect Brian Davis from porking things up further with players. White will get in anywhere and could get into UT, but Davis won’t be able to help him stay eligible, so Brown isn’t going to take the guy. I hadn’t heard that he’s similar to Jones, although I have heard that he’s a burner that can play.

As to anyone agreeing with HJ’s original position, well, I guess that’s better than the position Chris Applewhite was throwing out there. It’s probably not good, though. Productive, fast WRs that can start as Freshmen in the SEC simply don’t grow on trees. HJ believes that David Aaron would have, I guess.

Chris Jones is Daingerous!

AD and Tommie got out of OU before the delay-fused variety of the MBC went into effect.

Mack loaded up the plain sedan with nuts, bolts, nails, and jagged pipe fragments and parked it discreetly just outside the entrance to the OU agora.

“Cobi Hamilton is starting for Arkansas this weekend, a week after debuting with a TD for that program.”

CTJ,
Do you have a confirmed link that Cobi is currently the #1 at the Z position or is this just message board speculation? I’m curious b/c of my fantasy league. Not to be an ass, but Cobi will not be starting “this weekend” unless Arkansas schedules a game today.

Also, does anyone have a compiled list of website adresses where you can find the source to all (or at least most) current depth charts? The only one I know is MBTF. Google searches for other schools for this info are hit or miss. Mostly misses.

“AD and Tommie got out of OU before the delay-fused variety of the MBC went into effect.”

After AD’s freshman year, I would say the MBC did plenty of damage to the rest of his college career. Plenty of injuries, ass whippings by Texas and Boise St game to name some.

I won’t knock the Darius Terrel signing after getting a look at our detached TE position and how that can benefit our offense. Chris Jones should be a stud.

John Harris we’ll have to wait and see. I think he knows he’s coming here and have to fight hard for the 4th or 5th WR spot even after being in the program for 3 years. Cobi probably saw the same situation and said fuck it, i’m gonna be a pig.

Agreed that Hamilton is not curse-eligible. Neither is Fuller at aggy.

“Thin at WR”? Maybe you’re seeing something I’m just not. I count Shipley, Williams, Kirkendoll, Chiles, Hales and Goodwin and possible Monroe amongst our current group. Add Timmons to that group and consider that all but Jordan should return and I think you’ve got a solid group for a couple of years.

Am I the only one who got really excited but what I saw out of Buckner on Saturday? I think he’s going to be a serous match up problem for DC ’s the rest of the year.

Not only are will deep at WR, but we have guys at every year of eligibility that are as good or better than Cobi Hamilton.

They grow on trees. Go rub your vagina about running backs or something.