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Helmet to helmet.
15 yards.
1st down Tech.
….oh wait….
by Freakville on Sep 20, 2009 1:52 AM CDT reply actions
I guess that’s a rule anywhere but Austin (unless ut benefits).
by Freakville on Sep 20, 2009 1:55 AM CDT reply actions
When you go to Tech, do you have to sign some sort of document that makes you complain about every call that doesn’t go your way?
Anyway, helmet to chest. No PF. You lost. See you next year, when you will doubtless have many more officiating conspiracy theories to bandy about.
by BEHorn on Sep 20, 2009 2:02 AM CDT reply actions
Helmet to ball.
Potts’ hat popped off cause Sergio got under it.
by OgdenHorn on Sep 20, 2009 2:08 AM CDT reply actions
Holding on Tech, penalty declined. Oh wait, that’s the one play Kindle wasn’t held on. And did yo see the result? Good thing that Potts is a tough kid.
by Flamingmonkey on Sep 20, 2009 2:09 AM CDT reply actions
Great hit by Kindle. I compared it to Charles Haley on Jim Kelly. Pretty stout of Potts to come back out and drive for another TD.
by RRR on Sep 20, 2009 2:21 AM CDT reply actions
I like how Kheeston Randall was held on the play.
by HenryJames on Sep 20, 2009 7:25 AM CDT reply actions
Does anyone have a link to a photo of this hit from the slow mo angle? I’d love to have that saved somewhere.
by joe on Sep 20, 2009 7:58 AM CDT reply actions
Potts scares me to death. He is bigger and better than Harrell.
by ransomstoddard on Sep 20, 2009 7:59 AM CDT reply actions
Potts scares me because he gets up, jogs to the sideline and puts in his contact. Harrell’s labia would have gotten bruised on that hit.
by stuckinmn on Sep 20, 2009 8:34 AM CDT reply actions
I think the document that the Tech fans sign requires them to carry a ginormous chip on their shoulder in general (“we don’t get any state money!”) and there’s a subclause somewhere in there that includes football officiating. That includes a large chunk of my family, who themselves started in with the officiating comments around 11:00 last night.
Agree that Potts was WAY impressive. Much better than I thought he would be. A big part of that is the system of not holding the ball very long and throwing short, but just about everything he threw was on target and on time. Dude is tough, too, and the only times I caught him whining to the officials on TV were deserved.
My guess is that people will say that we’re overrated after this one, but this morning I’m thinking voters were overvaluing Crabtree and his sister Graham. Tech played very well.
by johnnymac on Sep 20, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions
My nephew’s flag football league called, they’re looking for you to become their ref.

That’s an upright Kindle leveling Potts in a form tackle.
by eskimohorn on Sep 20, 2009 8:52 AM CDT reply actions
How can tech be overrated when they are not rated. thats another stupid comment.
this hit was legal any coach will tell you this is how every tackle should be made. helmet to the middle of the chest, helmets never made contact until after the initial hit. quit being sissy’s
by hookem#1 on Sep 20, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions
If the QB is stupid enough to put the ball THAT close to his head then it is NOT helmet to helmet. Sergio hit the ball out and THEN hit the helmet. Don’t know if that changes anything,
by Donny Boudreaux on Sep 20, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions
I’ll finish the line of thinking for you:
Crabtree and Harrell aren’t there anymore and the voters are underrating the team that’s left.
It’s not “another stupid comment” just because it requires an extra step in critical thinking. Sorry for assuming you were up to it.
by johnnymac on Sep 20, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions
NCAA Rule book.
Rule 9, Section 1
ARTICLE 3. a. No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with
the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul
Tech Fans: STFU
by dogtown on Sep 20, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
If any Techie is gonna whine, then I can point to the obvious, egregious non holding call against Kindle when Potts was in the endzone, which would have meant a safety.
by bighornfan32 on Sep 20, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions
Man that hit was cathartic. I understand why they had to hold on every play.
by lowery on Sep 20, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
That hit reminded me of an incredible Harvey Martin sack on a Detroit Lions QB back in the day. Harvey came screaming around the end after shucking shedding the OT like he was an old jacket and positively jacked up the QB from the blind side.
Then, you realize that Kindle didn’t come from the blind side. Potts was so focused on the left side of the field he never saw SK coming. A coach should have bawled Potts out for being so unaware of what was coming at him on his sight side, but Kindle was so damn fast there he never had a chance anyway.
by Woody Bombay on Sep 20, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
I want to see the play where Kindle pancaked the Tech tackle and drew the facemask penalty. That was ridiculous.
by Dunstan Pearl on Sep 20, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
bighornsfan —
I saw that hold too. It was outrageous and completely obvious — should have been a safety the play before that Thomas interception that we immediately gavce back to Tech. And it would have changed the tempo of things.
In addition to the many holds that were not called, Tech runs picks for its receiver as a regular part of its routes. I do not recall any of those picks being called. I DO recall our secondary and linebackers hitting like no Texas defense I can remember and I suspect that was, at least in part, due to mthe frustration of all of those non-calls.
by ghostofagroundgame on Sep 20, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
I must be a sadist because repeatedly watching Pott’s entire body rock in slow motion at about the 45 second mark made me giggle with glee. I need to go change my pants.
by Dutchie on Sep 20, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions
Great hit, but if you don’t think he led with the crown of his helmet directly into Potts helmet, you’re either denying it or a complete idiot.
That’s fine if you don’t want to make that a rule, but to make that a rule this year and an emphasis placed on it, and not call that, is not right. That is a poster for that rule. He clearly led helmet first, just freeze the above video at the .45 mark and Kindle’s helmet leads the hit directly on Potts helmet.
Like I said if you don’t like the rule that’s one thing, but the rule is in place for that type of hit, and it should have been called PF 15 yards Tech’s ball. At least Potts was not seriously injuried from that hit, could have been a lot worse.
by Tim on Sep 20, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions
Tim, I was at Costco this morning. There are plenty of cases of tampons down there, go grab yourself a box or two.
by Woody Bombay on Sep 20, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions
You know, I have seen the same hit called a 15-yarded Tim. True. But in light of getting away with holding in the end zone and running illegal receiver screens as the basis for most of your routes, TT would not seem to be in a strong position to parse non-calls.
by ghostofagroundgame on Sep 20, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions
I bet ol Taylor Potts never saw that kind of rush from North Dakota or Rice, huh? LMAO.
by yojimbox on Sep 20, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions
Tim, dammit, stop posting stupid comments on Barking Carnival and go get a second job so you can start saving up money to buy a planet ticket to the Coconut Bowl or whatever third-tier bowl you Tech losers end up in.
by yojimbox on Sep 20, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
Actually Tim, if you want to call the penalty for a helmet to helmet go ahead and I’ll trump you with the blatant hold of Randall by #76 (Carter?) FF to :32 in that video to get the best eye in the sky shot. The penalties would’ve offset and the down would’ve been replayed.
And before you start calling me a Horns-homer, I’m not. Not a fan of either team, really. But c’mon man…you want to call the PF, you have to admit that Randall was held.
by Mister Mike on Sep 20, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
Tim you fucking retard. Go look at the picture posted by eskimohorn above. Kindle led with his facemask into Potts’ chest. If that is not a clean tackle, then nothing is.
You know how I knew we’d kick TT’s ass? Because they beat NO ONE on the road for the last 2 years. TT is lucky to have only lost by 10. The score easily could have been several touchdowns higher. Your team has no heart and sucks. They are not worth a damn. (BTW, these phrases are all crap that spewed from your mouth last year. Enjoy them now)
When your team wins, you disgrace yourself gloating. When your team gets it shit pushed in, you fucking whine and cry. You are a poor winner, a sore loser, and a fucking clown. When Nate H, ponderos, and dedfisher comment here, I can at least respect them because their opinions are based on some semblane of reality. Yours are based on the utter bullshit that courses through your head.
Fuck off
by dogtown on Sep 20, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions
I wanted to second or third the comment that the hit was legal. The deciding factor is the part of the helmet the defender uses. If the top, then penalty. If the front/facemask, then legal. What I was taught was to lead with the top of the facemask where it and the helmet meet. It is actually the safest way for the defender. The hit was violent though. Hell yeah it was violent! But legit.
by Monahorns on Sep 20, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
I have to second dogtown’s post in every sense. Tim, you stupid Tech fuck (redundancy alert), do you even know what the crown of a helmet is?
by stuckinmn on Sep 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions
The frozen frame above disproves Tim’s quote of the rule. It is Kindle’s facemask that strikes Potts’ helmet, not the crown (top) of Kindle’s helmet. The rule is not only designed to protect those receiving such hits from concussions but also those giving them from neck injuries. Guys have been paralyzed by tackling with their heads ducked and striking with the crown of the helmet.
by hopefulhorn on Sep 20, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
The frozen frame above disproves Tim’s quote of the rule. It is Kindle’s facemask that strikes Potts’ helmet, not the crown (top) of Kindle’s helmet. The rule is not only designed to protect those receiving such hits from concussions but also those giving them from neck injuries. Guys have been paralyzed by tackling with their heads ducked and striking with the crown of the helmet.
Impressed with Potts’ play as well as his toughness. Good QB.
by hopefulhorn on Sep 20, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions
ghostofagroundgame—Share your frustration at the number of pick plays Tech got away with last night including one for a TD. Muschamp gave the officials an earful after that one. Tech was finally flagged for a pick (officially offensive pass interference) that negated a big completion in the 4th quarter that would have set them up deep in our end.
Credit Muschamp for working the refs and the officials for finally calling one.
by hopefulhorn on Sep 20, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
Kindle did not drop his head to lead with the crown, so it was 100% legal. He hit him with his facemask, just like they draw it up in the textbook.
The refs did miss (another) obvious hold on that fat face painted WWE/Lattimer wannabe.
by randywatson on Sep 20, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions
This is the mindset of a leader
"I got hit, turned the ball over and the game wasn’t over," Potts said. "And we had to try and get another score. I didn’t want to let my teammates down. I was voted captain. If I’m lying on the ground hurt, that’s not a good captain."
Taylor Potts completed 46 of 62 passes to 10 different receivers for 420 yards and three touchdowns. To do that in DKR before the largest crowd to ever watch a football game in Texas (101,271) against the #2 team in the nation, in only his third career start, was astonishing in and of itself. Magnificent performance.
However, it was Taylor’s poise, leadership, and toughness that were truly impressive. All of our QB’s in the Leach era have been remarkable, but Mr. Potts may well have the potential to be the best of all.
by Tim on Sep 20, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions

I agree that the no-call was absolutely correct, but if we’re going by the very letter of the law, it’s not nearly as easy a call as many of the horns here seem to think.
by NateHeupel on Sep 20, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions
Nate, thank you for posting that picture. It’s pretty clear that in your picture that the crown of Kindles helmet led the hit. The picture that is on this thread above is a split second later, when the facemask came up and is more on the chest.
It’s impossible for the ref to see this as it happened so quickly, so it’s hard to blame him for not throwing the flag then and there. I do find it hard to believe that no one here can see that he clearly led with his crown. Next year Kindle will be facing a fine for the exact same hit.
by Tim on Sep 20, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks Nate it does show what we horns’ fans claiming. Like you said though it is close.
Tim, the thing that cinches it is that SK is hitting parallel to the ground. Draw a horizontal line to Potts. He is leading not with the crown but the top of the face mask. Just perfect.
If SK was launching up at Potts at an angle then maybe you have a point, but that is not happening.
by Monahorns on Sep 20, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
If you watch the slow motion portion of the replay you’ll see that Kindle actually DUCKS his head to ensure he hits Potts in the chest.
I swear to Vishnu that Tech fans are becoming worse than aggy. They never lose, it’s always the officials or injuries or some other bullshit.
Hey Tech fans, your team played well. Ours did not. We beat you by 10 points. The only thing strange by the outcome was that the margin was not greater.
Good game though.
by flamingmonkeyass on Sep 20, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
Only in Austin would that not have been called. If a Tech DE hit the precious UT Heisman Trophy Candidate, he would have been flagged.
Sucks.
by Thomas on Sep 20, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
^ Geezus, how many times are we going to have to hear that baseless weak ass argument.
The only comment I have on the game was that I was impressed with Potts. He made a lot of throws with pressure that would have been tough throws even without pressure. Definitely not something we’ve seen from Tech QBs in the past. This guy worries me next year.
by dick on Sep 20, 2009 11:20 PM CDT reply actions
Tim—
Care to comment on the holding in the end zone on Kindle or the wide receiver picks that you have so nimbly dodged?
Somehow, I doubt it.
by orangeblood79 on Sep 20, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions
While we’re talking non-calls, how come Potts wasn’t flagged for intentional grounding in the first quarter when he was about to be sacked about 15 yards deep? He clearly just dumped the ball about 10 feet in front of him at the heels of his offensive linemen. There was no eligible receiver anywhere nearby, the ball did not clear the line of scrimmage, Potts was clearly about to get sacked, and he was still between the tackles when this happened.
Maybe I’m missing part of the rule, but I don’t understand how that’s not a grounding penalty.
by Mike on Sep 21, 2009 1:36 AM CDT reply actions
Eskinmohorn – take a look at the 46-second point of video. Clearly, Kindle, running with face up, lowered his head and then made helmet to helmet contact. I am not saying anything he intentionally speared or did anything else intentional (there is a lot of instinct involved here), but under the rules, even with the purest of intentions, that is a personal foul. Almost like getting blocked into a kicker; it doesn’t matter why or how, it just matters that it occurred.
by Matt on Sep 21, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions
This is the type of blow defensive players dream of. And the clear signal from the Big 12 office that it is not going to enforce the stupid safety rules that make these hits illegal elsewhere in the NCAA may help the conference recruit better defensive players and will insure we see a lot more of them.
by Joe on Sep 21, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions
i think i would be more appropriately named techsbleedingvagina since every one of their fans is a pussy.
by timsbleedingvagina on Sep 23, 2009 1:50 AM CDT reply actions

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