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They wouldn't let a turf war between the two programs overflow into an ugly incident -- which is exactly what happened at Kansas this week.

A fight Tuesday night between members of the Kansas football and basketball teams, that apparently started over a girl, spilled over to the next day, and eventually led to several football and basketball players slugging out in front of an audience. According to a police report narrative, a witness stated that members of the two teams were "baiting" each other, and it escalated "into taunting and shouting and then fighting," in front of a crowd of about 100 spectators.

Police also said one player supposedly hurt his hand but they weren't sure who it was -- until BB guard Tyshawn Taylor announced on his facebook page that he had dislocated a finger throwing a punch.

Both coaches of the teams involved, Mark Mangino and Bill Self, said that the incident would be handled internally. Self, said there would be discipline but that it would occur behind closed doors.

"It’s really none of your business," Self said.

Former players from both programs said that the bad blood has been building up for several years.

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you stay classy lawrence

by bob on Sep 24, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow. I’ve never heard of something like this happening before and I’ve been watching sports for 35+ years. It probably has, but I don’t recall it.

by texoz on Sep 24, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Dexter Pittman would crush our OL guys.

by Woody Bombay on Sep 25, 2009 1:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Dogus Balbay our OL guys.

by misterloki on Sep 25, 2009 7:28 AM CDT reply actions  

That is supposed to say “Dogus Balbay would crush our OL guys.” Words are hard.

by misterloki on Sep 25, 2009 7:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Right, because a tickle fight between guys that happen to play different sports is much worse than covering up what would have been your star defensive player’s second DUI in his time on campus.

by Hiphopopotamus on Sep 25, 2009 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

100 spectators and nothing on youtube yet?

by eskimohorn on Sep 25, 2009 7:52 AM CDT reply actions  

You know you’re in trouble when your coach pulls the ‘none of your business’ card.

by whoopspat on Sep 25, 2009 7:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Was it actually a tickle fight, Hiphop?

If so, that is so….cute.

by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 8:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I would greatly enjoy a tickle fight, involving pre-screened members of the volleyball and softball teams.

by Nordberg on Sep 25, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Kindle likes Muschamp so much that he decided to run through a brick wall for him. When that didn’t work, he decided to drive through it. Personally, I can’t fault dedication like that.

by kevwun on Sep 25, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Glass houses, srr50. Glass houses.

by Phenomenal Smith on Sep 25, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

DUI’s would fall under the glass houses category.

A couple of brawls between two sports teams at the same university is not, cuz that hasn’t happended to this extent anywhere ever. This is more significant bc KUs bball team is one of the top 5 highest profile programs. The fact that this is occuring in September while the football team is playing their season is less of a big deal actually. If this happens the first week of February and a starting basketball player breaks something and has to miss time, it would be a gigantic story. And very good for the Feb 8th visit to Austin.

by dick on Sep 25, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

This would never happen in Austin. Too many broads to choose from. The lady in question would probably rate no higher than a 7 in ATX.

What does Kindles texting mis-hap have to do with star players from Kansas getting in a fracas?

Nordberg, I’m thinking of an Olympian tickle fight between Cat O. and Laura Wilkinson.

by magnusbleuveigner on Sep 25, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh, yeah, my friend who sometimes reads this would be pissed off if I didn’t mention that he kissed Ms. Wilkinson. Way to go --———!

We all have to have a claim to fame, sadly, that’s his.

by magnusbleuveigner on Sep 25, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions  

This was probably the toughest fight KU basketball will see all season.

by Triston27 on Sep 25, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I often forget the near 100% conversion rate of KU fans to douche bags. Thanks for the reminder.

by uthookem on Sep 25, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I think the coaches have nothing to do with it.
 
And UT football players and basketball players have gotten into it several times at Texas. Not under the current regimes though.

by Scipio Tex on Sep 25, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

ctex – Pretty much, I’d say, considering the one injury resulting from the two “fights” is a dislocated thumb. It’s all up for interpretation though.

kevwun – Well played, sir.

uthookem – Very well thought out and mature response. Let us know if there’s anything else we can do to help you out.

by Hiphopopotamus on Sep 25, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Sherron Collins could start at tailback for the KU football team.

by Trips Right on Sep 25, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the coaches have nothing to do with it.

So you really think that both Brown and Barnes would ignore the signs of impending physical confrontation, which former players at KU from both sports say have been there for years?

I don’t.

According to reports this wasn’t the first altercation between football and basketball players, just the first to escalate to a two-day battle.

Hell yes we have had fights between athletes, some of them really nasty. But they didn’t expand to include the “Jets vs. Sharks,” mentality where turf protection was the goal.

I definitely believe that coaches can set the tone for avoiding this kind of shit.

by srr50 on Sep 25, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it is interesting to see a lot of these “this would never happen at (insert university here)” statements a lot of fans from other programs have been throwing out. Sure, Mangino and Self should have done a better job of nipping this in the bud but I also thing this well set a precedent for a lot of schools that may have similar issues in the future.

A bit of perspective on this always helps as well, since the prior issues basically stem from a certain stocky PG fighting with a certain JUCO RB who was dismissed from the team this off-season. I know most thought the threat of continued fighting was at a minimum…not to mention chances of that certain JUCO RB hitting any football players again with a Tahoe. But the current issue happened over a girl, in a matter of days, when some stupid shit was said on Facebook(while Bill Self was out of town recruiting I might add). As Ron Burgundy would say, “Boy, that escalated quickly… I mean, that really got out of hand fast.”

I really think it has been blown out of proportion, given that on any day on any campus the same crap happens over the same issue but it just happens to be football vs. basketball in this case. Mix in the fact that we are talking about full of themselves athletes that think they are more entitled and you have a situation that balloons out of control quicker than most coaches could handle. Makes you wonder how often stuff like this actually happens and just doesn’t wind up as a national story, let’s say had it just happened at a house party.

I don’t want to sound like I’m brushing it under the rug, though I am to an extent, because I am embarrassed as hell that this happened and that cooler heads didn’t win out before a public push-fight ensued. I still think it could’ve been handled better by everyone involved, but to say this couldn’t happen at almost any other uni I just don’t buy.

by gingerballs on Sep 25, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Does BC pay by the word?

by jimmyjazz on Sep 27, 2009 1:19 AM CDT reply actions  

As a Kansas fan, I will take the brawl as long as Rick Barnes pledges to never coach any of our players and be way ahead. I wouldn’t want that hack anywhere near our McDonald’s AA – how many has he ruined at Texas? And I can’t believe this moralizing because of this incident. “That’d never happen here! We love our programs here at Texas!”

Tyshawn Taylor got angry, threw a bunch, posted some schlock and his facebook page, and now people want to turn this into West Side Story, all the while patting themselves on the back for having such great athletic departments. Well guess what, Idiots? Kansas is going to win the North in football, have one of it’s best seasons in school history, and then bend everyone over in basketball. Not because they all hugged each other and got along and prayed to Jesus. KU will succeed because Self and Mangino are brilliant coaches, Lew Perkins is a fantastic athletic director, and the athletes are going to do what they do best: play. I have heard Missouri fans echo the sentiment of the initial (factually inaccurate) article, and I just laugh. Fresh off of winning the Fulmer Cup in football, not far removed from Ricky Clemmons’ payday, Kalen Grimes hitting somone over the head with a shotgun butt and Steffon Hannah getting his jaw broken in a bar fight – and KU is the school that lost control.

All because football and basketball players pushed each other on campus and barked at each other. Jesus. Watch the Brady Bunch, read Dan Brown, and listen to Coldplay you pansies. We’ll be winning games.

by Andy on Sep 29, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

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