Dez's dead, Baby. Dez's dead.

The fact that Okie State kept this cerebrally challenged guy academically eligible for 2 and 1/2 seasons is somewhat remarkable.

The lunch with Neon was the tip of the iceberg apparently.

What he did wasn’t against the rules, but lying about it is? If he said that he ordered the Dude, but in fact he had a Hungerbuster, would he be out for the year?

It don’t make a shit.

Am I understanding this correctly? He lied to the NCAA, only because he thought he’d broken the rules? Kind of hard to feel sorry for that. If there is more to this story I’d like to hear it.

Let’s not get into how we keep athletes academically eligible. Last I checked, our football roster isn’t exactly littered with Rhode scholars either. The only thing Vince “Can’t zone read my way out of the Wonderlic” Young could have passed at UT is the ketchup.

Any word on Hunter’s status for Saturday?

but just think – if we even teach them to spell the name correctly, they jump ahead of you…

In regard to why Bryant was sent packing, if you really believe that it has much of anything to with lying about a dinner with Deion Sanders, lay off the sauce and ludes.

The guy was delivered by a street agent to OSU and has never been clean. OSU gets what they had coming to them on this one. And yea!!! for us.

Fried Rice—

Comparing Texas to OSU, even for the athletes, is dumber than building a 4 story bonfire.

So the NCAA rules on this in a month but it’s 5 years and counting for Reggie Bush and USC?

“Comparing Texas to OSU, even for the athletes, is dumber than building a 4 story bonfire.”

Ouch. Better put some ice on that…

Butch would like to thank him for the chopper, however, as Marcellus Wallace is closing in.

“So the NCAA rules on this in a month but it’s 5 years and counting for Reggie Bush and USC?”

It’s called running out the clock so you don’t kill the golden (and cardinal red) goose.

“Comparing Texas to OSU, even for the athletes, is dumber than building a 4 story bonfire.”

That’s all I was doing, was comparing athletes. My point simply was there’s not really a huge gap there. Listening to an argument about how our athletes are smarter than theirs is like watching 2 midgets compare penis sizes.

Enough about that. CTJ, I’m agreeing more and more with you each week that we just need to escape with a win in Pasadena. Yes, I would like that gift-wrapped with crippled opponents.

Seriously, on the Bush thing, everyone knows that if you stonewall, the NCAA can’t do anything to former athletes. Sure, they can bring in the school employees, but if it’s an outside deal (as Bush’s looks to be), there is plausible deniability.

If the Feds get involved, like they did with the Bill Martin case with the Michigan basketball players, the NCAA can tag along. But if not, they are stuck. Someone’s gotta roll, and that won’t happen unless the agents actually go to court against the Bushes, and IIRC correctly, that action either is on hold or was withdrawn.

They had Dez because he was still in school and couldn’t evade the “subpoena.”

If Texas didn’t care about being clean and having kids that can tie their shoes, they would have started Dez and Crabtree at wr last year. Also, I think I heard once that midgets have normal sized junk.

The thing that I am encouraged by in this deal, outside of that idiot being told to hit the road, is that it is clear the NCAA has concerns over middlemen for agents, not just agents themselves. Sanders has been a funnel for awhile for his former agent. The fact that the NFL employs him as a commentator is dispicable. This sends a message to players that coaches can reinforce: “Stay away from anyone or anything associated with agents, even high profile former stars or our own alums.”

I am hoping to see them get more and more aggressive towards recruits and street agents as well. They can do so without going after the schools themselves, which is clearly one of the things they handwring over.

CTJ – seriously, you’re too good a poster to make a comment like that. You disappoint me.

A little ripe on the bonfire jab, CTJ. 10 year anniversary.

Ag—

I don’t understand what is disappointing. I think it was and is stupid, and I have all my life. You guys are inferring something more sinister than my intention. When I typed it, it was between that and lead paint. Not like I am ill-wishing.

Sometimes the political correctness gets too far out over its skis on silly shit like this.

CTJ, always course, always has something interesting to add to the discussion.

Dez will make a fine NFL receiver. There is no way to build a clean program somewhere like Stillwater. That’s just the way it is.

CTJ — I always thought it was dumb too. Let’s see — let a bunch of college kids build a really tall structure, with no engineering oversight, then let them soak it with diesel and burn it up — let, hell, encourage. Sounds like a really good idea, huh?

ghost,

And let ‘em do all that while they’re drunk.

And while upper class men haze all of the incoming “red-asses” in the process. I had a buddy that went to TAMU and went through it his freshman year, I laughed at him continuously.

I don’t think I can let the comment go regarding academic standards for Texas athletes. I think you would find ample evidence that as a group, the Texas players are on a higher level. Cursory evidence: the recent number of Academic All-Americans as well as the fact that two players who would have contributed greatly to our season (Collins and Scott) are not playing.

I dunno about Collins and Scott being a symbol of UT standards, considering that they are eligible according to UT, but not according to the NCAA.

Iowery – if you want to know about the average size of midget junk, just ask CTJ. I hear he’s an expert.

also, i dont think we were ever really that interested in crabtree, were we?

It would be one thing to make jokes about a tragedy that people were working hard to ensure never happened again.

It’s another to highlight the stupidity of an event that, even after the death of 12 students, has institutional and widespread backing.

Let’s get back to Dez.

In regard to why Bryant was sent packing, if you really believe that it has much of anything to with lying about a dinner with Deion Sanders, lay off the sauce and ludes.

The guy was delivered by a street agent to OSU and has never been clean. OSU gets what they had coming to them on this one. And yea!!! for us.

While I have no trouble understanding that this may have been all kinds of dirty, I am having a harder time understanding why the NCAA would finally get fed up and use this Red Herring as the catch all to take down poor Dez Bryant.

Are you positing that these guys don’t want to pull back the curtain on this too far as it will lead to many schoools having their curtains pulled back and kill the golden goose that is NCAA athletics? Was Okie State SO dirty that the NCAA just had to do something but need to help damage control?

Something doesn’t quite add up here.

Also, I think I heard once that midgets have normal sized junk.

Ric Flair tells a story in his gripping autobiography, To Be the Man, about a midget wrestler he used to work with. Apparently, it was typically Flair’s job to get this guy laid every night. The chicks were always uninterested, and the Nature Boy would have to come up with some lame reason for the little fella to drop his shorts, thereby revealing the third leg of his human tripod. According to Flair, there was always at least one skank willing to take this miniature John Holmes back to the hotel for a curiosity screw.

And, yes, I read Ric Flair’s autobiography. That’s the kind of shit you get away with when you major in engineering.

raoulduke—

You are being very literal. Their suspension of him has nothing to do with the way he got to campus. The way he was delivered has everything to do with what it says in general about the guy. He’s corrupt and at some point, there was going to be a piece of straw that broke the back.

So, Dez Bryant getting axed by the NCAA, even for a minor triviality, is the moral equivilent of Cameron Todd Willingham getting executed for a fire he didn’t set because “we’re sure he did something else really bad”?

I’ll bet you the new Cadillac Escalade he showed up driving in Lufkin a month ago that he is being suspended for more than just a dinner with D.

Oh, I’m sure he is. I just wish the NCAA was honest enough to admit that. Of course, I wish Bill Byrne would burst into flames as well, but that isn’t likely to happen anytime soon.

Put him near the bonfire.

We were interested in Crabtree, but decided not to pursue/offer. Don’t think grades were a factor, but I’m not certain.

I’m surprised there aren’t more guys like Crabtree actually who exceed expectations. Still pretty amazing to me the big programs can generally identify the talent even when these kids are sophomores and juniors in HS.

magnusbleuveigner wins the internet.

I believe we chose James Henry over Crabtree. And Henry still leads in the coveted bitches kicked category.

Regardless of any other allegations you want to throw toward Dez, he was a huge grade risk coming out of HS. That alone would have made it totally justifiable for Mack Brown to not pursue him, as Texas as the luxury to pursue whom they please. I have no idea about any other miscellaneous happenings that may or may not have occurred, and I have a feeling very few of you do, either.

CTJ -

I am echoing, Ag.

I am trying to be literal. I am striving for some exactness as I don’t understand how the NCAA has approached this and your points about it.

Lying about having lunch with Deion Sanders is the straw that breaks the camel’s back and gets the guy expelled but the real, super-secret reason and the hay bale below the final straw is in fact that he’s been given an Escalade, eats children and he never attends a class yet somehow remains eligible.

I am more curious about the NCAA in this. Have they acted because their delicate sensibilities have been offended? I mean, shit, you can do all that other stuff but if you lie to us, well tsk tsk, you are going down scholar athlete!

And what was the line of questioning about which he lied? The Escalade?

How did this whole thing start? Were they digging for actual dirt?

They got Al Capone for tax evasion.

Fact check: It was Ed Martin, not Bill Martin, who took down Michigan basketball. Bill Martin is the retiring athletic director. He went to work on the rest of the program. I regret the error.

If James Henry kicked bitches, does Henry James get kicked by bitches?

according to crabtree we wanted him to play corner and he wanted to score td’s.

We wanted Crab at Safety, but that’s splitting hairs.

I thought the other thread said he was in Lufkin driving a new $95,000 Porsche? Which was it? A Caddy or Porsche? Or has he got both!!!!