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Defensive Stats: Texas Longhorns @ Oklahoma State Cowboys

The key to stopping Oklahoma State’s offense is to stop them from running the football. If they can run the ball, they can get in a lot of manageable third downs.

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And their passing game uses a lot of play action based off their ability to run, and with Dez Bryant out they don’t have a lot of guys catching the ball who could can get separation on their own.

They more than doubled our per game average in rushing yards allowed, but they couldn’t run the ball effectively. They ended up going 43-134, 3.1 ypc. But that doesn’t tell the whole story. Look at the median. Texas fans should be very familiar with the median when it comes to running the football. Former Denver Broncos offensive line coach Alex Gibbs said it’s more important what you can gain consistently than what you average. Well OSU’s median rush was 2 yards.

If your median is two yards per carry, you’re not going to be able to put together sustained drives against the Texas defense. ChrisApplewhite texted me (in tears) that our inability to stop OSU’s big 4 yard runs would lead to our defeat. But I wasn’t worried because 1) someone on our defense seems to always come through if you have to drive on them and 2) one incompletion will kill the drive.

Zac Robinson completed 15 passes for 143 yards and a touchdown. Our secondary intercepted 4 of his passes which they returned 139 yards for two touchdowns. Robinson’s passing efficiency rating of 79.7 does not reflect accurately just how badly we made him look. Huckleberry may have a stat that reflects this, but like everyone else I don’t read his stuff.

Oklahoma State actually won the time of possession battle 33:16 to 26:44. Worthless stat.

Think of football as intercourse. Time of possession matters to women, but guys don't care no matter what they say publicly. If you can 'score' in under two minutes, it still counts. And it counts more than 'driving' six minutes and coming up with nothing.

Thoughts?

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“Think of football as intercourse. Time of possession matters to women, but guys don’t care no matter what they say publicly. If you can ’score’ in under two minutes, it still counts. And it counts more than ‘driving’ six minutes and coming up with nothing.

Thoughts?"

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Your girlfriend/boyfriend? is either miserable, or has a large supply of batteries stashed bedside.

by texoz on Nov 2, 2009 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

Huckleberry may have a stat that reflects this, but like everyone else I don’t read his stuff.

That’s funny. I admit I am in the group whose eyes glaze over 2 sentences into a Huckleberry post. I hated statistics class.

by t1climb1 on Nov 2, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

Talking to him in person is even worse.

by HenryJames on Nov 2, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

This is all crap. Echeese just revealed that the offense “bailed out the D.” The O “set the tone early” and “forced OSU out its gameplan.”

Then he chided an unbeliever, telling him, “Try being objective and giving credit where it’s due.”

I think he was talking to you, HenryJames.

by NVHorn on Nov 2, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

That’s all fine well and good, but how many laughing emoticons did he use?

by nordberg on Nov 2, 2009 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

That dude has zero self-awareness.

by HenryJames on Nov 2, 2009 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

“That’s all fine well and good, but how many laughing emoticons did he use?”

He used them sparingly, but he came in above his averages on references to “intellectual dishonesty” and straw man arguments.

"When you have followed football for awhile, you will know DC’s love it when they get a 3 score lead, it forces the other team to throw constantly and makes playing D fairly easy.

One of the reasons TT’s D does well statistically most years, their high powered O forces teams to try and win shootouts with them giving them easy INT opportunities.

You lack the intellectual honesty to give credit where it is due but then I noticed on another thread, you do love your myths."

by NVHorn on Nov 2, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

A debate with echeese is a war of wits against an unarmed man.

by BrickHorn on Nov 2, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

I thought we had a rule against quoting echeese on this website. If we don’t, we need to implement one before every rational person here experiences his brain imploding.

What makes the rushing stats even more impressive for this game is that that 3.1 ypc was compiled without benefit of sacks making it artificially lower. That’s a hard 3.1.

Hook ’em!!!

by EyesOfTX on Nov 2, 2009 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

Come on, y’all. I come here to get away from echeese. You quoting him all the time isn’t gonna pay my light bill.

by homesickalien on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

One of the reasons TT’s D does well statistically most years, their high powered O forces teams to try and win shootouts with them giving them easy INT opportunities.

Texas Tech’s national ranking in total defense under Mike Leach:

2009: #59
2008: #79
2007: #45
2006: #58
2005: #30
2004: #46
2003: #106
2002: #85
2001: #50
2000: #24

by BrickHorn on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

That’s a hard 3.1.

That’s what she said.

by HenryJames on Nov 2, 2009 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

Please note that that highest ranked Tech Defense occurred when Spike Dykes was still their head coach.

Hook ’em!!!

by EyesOfTX on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

That’s crazy that they had statistically their best year under Leach the first year he was there.

by nordberg on Nov 2, 2009 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

I thought Leach took over in 2000.

by BrickHorn on Nov 2, 2009 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

Never mind.

by nordberg on Nov 2, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

Huck has an application that pits HenryJames against minor American humorists.

So far, HJ beats Bobcat Goldthwait at home, but loses out to Ruth Buzzi at a neutral site.

by parlinhall on Nov 2, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions  

That’s crazy that they had statistically their best year under Leach the first year he was there.

What’s really crazy is that there’s someone out there who is so fucking stupid that he would actually base an argument on the premise that Texas Tech’s defense “does well statistically most years.” Then again, every time I think there’s an argument too stupid for any human to make, echeese comes along and takes up the challenge.

by BrickHorn on Nov 2, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions  

Oops, my bad. Leach did go to Tech in 2000. Sorry about that.

That said, I fully endorse Brickhorn’s last post.

Hook ’em!!!

by EyesOfTX on Nov 2, 2009 1:13 PM CST reply actions  

I’ve abandoned at least a couple of different sites because of him.

You think sports is bad, I once threw a stapler across my office because of a politics argument with him. It’s like trying to hold sand. I suppose he figured out if you cheeriful quote inanity and falsehoods, you can’t actually lose an argument in your own mind.

by bateshorn on Nov 2, 2009 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

Earl Thomas was ridiculously good. Having the ability to move into the slot like he did is a luxury for a DC.

by HenryJames on Nov 2, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

Our defense has sucked balls for pretty much a decade. I don’t know what the stats are, but any year-to-year improvement is probably attributable to scheduling.

by dedfischer on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

Good point, Eyes. Last year’s good rush defense stats were artificially improved by the whopping number of sacks added in. Then Beany Wells reminded us how the big boys run the ball.
This year, we ARE the big boys in stopping the run. I honestly think this is the best defense overall I’ve ever seen from a Texas team in nearly 40 years of following them.

The other side of the equation is with our offense. We only had 99 yards rushing (113 without two sacks), but they were mostly effective runs until the game was out of reach. Not impressive numbers, but important to the efficient functioning of the offense. Of Texas’ 275 total yards, fully 270 of them were gained on scoring drives amassing 27 points. 85 of the rushing yards (which includes a 10-yd loss on a sack) came on those scoring drives. THAT is efficiency.

by lurkerinthedark on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

lurker: good points all, and where the offense is concerned, we have to remember that all the defensive scoring and putting them in short field situations limited them to 52 plays for the game. That’s 20 or so plays less than they average. When you take that 5.3 per play average and apply it to another 20 plays, you’d add 106 total yards, getting it to a very respectable 381 yard game.

Our offense was very efficient and productive in this game. That said, our defense was freaking awesome. And that pretty much describes the state of the team.

Hook ’em!!!

by EyesOfTX on Nov 2, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

You think sports is bad, I once threw a stapler across my office because of a politics argument with him.

Really? Wow. I’ve never gotten genuinely frustrated by echeese. Although I have sometimes been annoyed by my inability to underestimate his intellect.

by BrickHorn on Nov 2, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions  

Environmentally conscious suggestion: go with the rechargeable batteries.

by dasmithjones on Nov 2, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Think of football as intercourse. Time of possession matters to women, but guys don’t care no matter what they say publicly. If you can ’score’ in under two minutes, it still counts. And it counts more than ‘driving’ six minutes and coming up with nothing.

by BrickHorn on Nov 2, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions  

Hating on the cheezz is akin to killing a mockingbird.

by NY Horn on Nov 2, 2009 1:59 PM CST reply actions  

I finally learned not to argue with him, but it took me a while to realize that you can’t argue with somebody who doesn’t or won’t work with basic facts (or intelligence).

by bateshorn on Nov 2, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

That’s a hard 3.1.

That’s what she said.
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HJ: Are you really sure you want to brag about that?

Hook ’em!!!

by EyesOfTX on Nov 2, 2009 2:42 PM CST reply actions  

Echeese just revealed that the offense "bailed out the D." The O "set the tone early" and "forced OSU out its gameplan."***

One positive outcome of Gerry and Bobby throwing in the towel is that cheeseboy is back at OB full-time, where I don’t have to read his shit.

by Blueshorn on Nov 2, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

Strawman. Intellectual dishonesty.

Where are the emoticons? Where’s my stapler?

by echeese on Nov 2, 2009 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

HenryJames is a cult of one.

by 75 % male on Nov 2, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions  

“ChrisApplewhite texted me (in tears) that our inability to stop OSU’s big 4 yard runs would lead to our defeat. But I wasn’t worried because 1) someone on our defense seems to always come through if you have to drive on them and 2) one incompletion will kill the drive.”

Oh that is just hilarious. I should charge you for my thoughts since they always end up in the internet anyway. $9.99 a month.

by ChrisApplewhite on Nov 2, 2009 4:31 PM CST reply actions  

I thought this site was safe for me?

by Lactose Intolerant on Nov 2, 2009 5:11 PM CST reply actions  

“Our defense has sucked balls for pretty much a decade. I don’t know what the stats are, but any year-to-year improvement is probably attributable to scheduling.”

The light has gone out of dedfischer’s eyes. Somebody, QUICK! Pop in the tape of the 2008 Texas game in Lubbock! NOW! Trips, give him mouth-to-mout. You know you want to! Hold on, ded! Hold!

Exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like lamp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slap hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by The General on Nov 2, 2009 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

Two pick-sixes and a muffed punt pretty much guarantees you won’t dominate in possession time.

by OldTimeHorn on Nov 2, 2009 7:36 PM CST reply actions  

Ha. After I saw this yesterday, I did a little homework and it’s funny how we consistently got worse as Spike’s defensive recruits graduated. Our starting OLBs in 2000? John Norman and Dorian Pitts, two guys that showed up in Lubbock as oversized safeties. 2007 you ask? Chad Hill and Kellen Tillman. We’ve managed to get slower in time on that side of the ball due to our shitty JUCO recruiting policy and bingo-calling DCs. No player development on that side of the ball and your depth turns over every 2 years. You can’t reload like that at Tech. What I do appreciate about Ruff is that he is getting much better athletes on that side of the ball on the recruiting trail. 2009 was his first full class and when we have Will Ford on the field, or D.J. Johnson in Kansas’ case, then we’re a much better defense than what we’ve been in the past Leach years. Ruff still has my support at this point and I hope the Kansas gameplan was a step in the right direction long-term as a means to getting faster on that side of the ball. In the games we’ve been exposed the last 2 seasons under Ruff, team speed has killed us.

by dedfischer on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 AM CST reply actions  

They more than doubled our per game average in rushing yards allowed, but they couldn’t run the ball effectively. They ended up going 43-134, 3.1 ypc. But that doesn’t tell the whole story.

I’ll see your “median analysis” and raise you with this: When Texas went up 34-7 midway through the 3rd quarter, Gundy packed it in and started running the ball to roll the clock. I noticed it when I finally re-watched the game last night, but seeing that they had 43 RUSHING ATTEMPTS in a game in which they were being blown out just confirms it. If he could’ve taken his ball and gone home at that point in the 2nd half, he would’ve. Instead, they churned up some meaningless rushing yards that skewed our rushing defense numbers. (The exact opposite of most blow-outs). So, in addition to the median analysis, factor that in and you get an even more impressive performance.

by cincinnatus on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

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