Post UC Irvine Post

Iowa already lost to UTSA. Pitt barely beat Wofford. Should be an easy CBE.

“8 ) At some point I was lamenting our offensive performance when I looked up and we had a 25 point lead on 50% shooting.”

I kept doing the exact same thing. And this is going to be commonplace for this team. We’ll bitch and bitch and bitch… and then we’ll look up at the scoreboard and we’re beating OU by 20 with two minutes to go in the game. The amound of “garbage buckets” this team will get will be staggering.

And as you all know, “amound” is French for “amount”.

The more you know.

I hope Barnes riding Hamilton does not mean Hamilton forgetting how to play offense and becoming a head case for stretches of the season…Barnes can have this effect when he gets in players heads.

I think that can be a concern for guys like Varez Ward or Justin Mason. But Jordan Hamilton isn’t going to forget how to score.

Very impressed with the freshmen, especially S Williams. I thought he was just going to be a shooting specialist with length to help with zone defense but he looks like he will be able to contribute in many ways even in conference play.

We are going to wear a lot of teams down this year. The anteaters were gassed by halftime today.

How the hell does Lucas fit in once he’s eligible?

Post game quotes:

Barnes on J’Covan-

J’Covan Brown wore us all out. I’ve never seen a guy that amped up, ever. We got through practice yesterday at 4:30, but he stayed up on the floor for another hour. At 5:30 he was still here. I came here at 7:30 last night for the team meeting, and he was already on the court, sweating. This morning they said after pre-game meal he went ahead and went to the practice facility to shoot some.

Pittman on J’Covan-

I don’t think J’Covan was nervous. He was amped. I think he was ready to play. He’s a competitor. He loves the competition. I don’t think he’ll back down from anything.

    
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goose bumps

Oh, and Hat Creek is the shit. I scoffed the first time i paid $7.50 for one last year…but then i ate it. Infinitely better than the $6 school cafeteria buger you get at the Center Court Club.

J’Covan fist bumped everyone he could find, including the officials, before the opening tip. Then he got the ball taken from him on consecutive trips (and once a few minutes later). Yes, he was amped. Wangmene is ripped, but moves a little like Frankenstein. We will collect a ton of garbage buckets with James and Dex.

Justin Mason even had a nice entry into Big Dex.

*snigger

Interesting quote from Pittman about there being no starters on this team, that anyone can start on any given night. That tells me the guys are buying into what Barnes is selling.

Great stuff, TG.

The J’Covan stuff from Barnes is awesome. Hopefully Lemmy will give SLX some time off of the tour and he can give us some thoughts too.

I wonder if J’Covan is going to have surgery on his foot after the season to deal with the screw that’s giving him trouble?

The first time we really find out about this team is in Dallas when we play UNC. Iowa is just terrible this year, Pitt is down and without their two best players, and USC is in turmoil following the departure of Tim Floyd. There should not be a game in the first nine that we don’t win by 10 or more.

“6) Avery Bradley doesn’t jump, he levitates. Also, judging by the shootaround, the two dunks we saw in the game weren’t full jumps. He has more ups than he showed in the game.”

I agree with that on the dunks, but we did see his ups: the elevation he gets on his jump shot is otherwordly. What an amazing athlete.

I’m still in awe of the first game. We only saw flashes of things to come. I’ve been watching basketball for a long time and what I saw last night reminded me of watching Phi Slamma Jamma. Not in style or type of basketball, but the feeling I got watching them. That was a special group as is this one. However, I think this UT team is deeper, much deeper than Slamma Jamma.

The three areas of weakness/concern will be team cohesion, foul shooting and smart play from our PG. If Barnes can strengthen the latter two and maintain the first (team cohesion) going into conference play, I think this team will be one of the best college teams to ever step onto the floor.

That is a smart move by Gary to work on his 3 point shot. Power forwards who are good 3 point shooters are great for floor spacing when you ave a dominant big man like Dex.

Glad to see that Shawn Williams red shirt was burned and that he is a good rebounder and defender (in addition to being a good shooter). Jordan needs some competition at small forward.

Barnes should play a lot on zone D this year to keep Dex from getting attacked when playing man to man D and to stretch Dex’s minutes. Dex should much more effective defensively and rebounding when playing zone than when playing man.

J’Covan has a screw in his foot?

Really excited about J’Covan, what is wrong with his foot?

He’s got at least one screw in his foot from a previous injury and he’s said a screw is giving him a little trouble. Says it hurts when he pushes off. I imagine that it’s limiting his jumping ability and speed some. This isn’t new, though. He’s been dealing with it since before he’s been on campus.

Ladies stop all the jumping up and down in your tutus.
 Check out the “Physicality” of this team.
 Does it remind you of some teams. Give you a hint they wear Green and White from up north with several large lakes around them. OK for the uniformed this team plays defense like the old Michigan State teams that used to kick everyones ass and it will get better .
When they all listen to RB about using their arms ,keeping then in the passing lanes, with the length of this team , speed and quickness this team will make teams cry and yell for mom……
Dog played well and his shoting form lookd good but did not score again…..Patron cried some watching him !

Stop me if I’m out of line…

But watching them yesterday, I was reminded of ’90s Kentucky or UNLV.

I was absolutely flummoxed by the depth and athleticism of this team.

There have been talented UT teams before, but I don’t think there’s one that could touch this one, talent-wise. I know that’s a bold statement. If I’m wrong, show me.

This team could be completely scary good.

If Barnes is able to make this team better over the course of the year {which is his job, obviously}, then wow.

Also, when I remembered late in the 2nd half that Jai Lucas was still to be added to this squad, I drooled some more.

Ho hum, another McDonald’s All-American to bring off our bench.

I didn’t realize how much of the game the effing MAAC soccer game cut off. If it was 21-19 when the television audience joined the broadcast, then you missed all the worst parts of the game.

I forgot to mention:

We had the first “We Want Dick” chant from the Ozone. Allsome. I hope the kid sticks it out for four years because of this. I will giggle uncontrollably every time this happens

I have been telling everybody on this site that Shawn Williams was more than just a shooter, but people like Trips still insisted on referring to the rankings on rivals or his scouting reports that he got from his “AAU coach friend”. He didn’t get any opportunities to put the ball in the hole and he’s playing out of position at the 4, but that will come. He has always been a good rebounder and he showed what he can do in the open floor when he took it off the glass and busted out with the dribble and led the break for a bucket. He can stroke it and put it on the floor. He is lacking behind Hamilton and Bradley in the physical (strength) department right now and that probably won’t come until the offseason, but when it does watch out.

Shawn Williams will be here for 4 years too. I’m looking forward to watching him over his career.

3 years Dick

4 years ipowers.

If he’s good enough to leave for the NBA after 3 years, then he would have far exceeded anyone’s expectations and we’d all be pretty happy.

What leads you to believe that he wouldn’t be ? Who’s expectations are you talking about ? Barking Carnival’s ? Remember all u experts expected him to redshirt this year too. The shit that kills me is that u talk about him as if he was ranked in the 200-300’s coming out of high school. He was a top 50 player in the country. I have seen him play more than anybody on this site combined. Stop arguing with me and just take my word for it. I think I’m more informed about this than any of u are. Goddamn !!!

Nothing to do with BC’s expectations. Just what I’ve seen from him. He was NOT a consensus top 50 player, and no I’m not treating him like he was is the hundreds just because he won’t leave to go to the NBA early, that is God-awful logic. Bradley could be a three year player but he was #1 in ESPN, am I treating him like like a…errr, uh…top 50 player? That’s idiotic logic. It depends on the player, not the ranking. You may have seen him a lot, but you are so obviously biased whenever you open your mouth about him that nobody believes anything you say. Plus have the time you say it, you’re almost incommunicable and sometimes just flat-out ridiculous.

ipowers,

Your assertion was that Jordan Hamilton couldn’t hold Shawn’s jock. That is still ridiculous. He looks like an excellent complimentary player that can hit the open shot and do all the little things. It is still a leap to think he will be able to skip his senior year in college for the draft. There are 200 top 50 rated out of high school players eligible for the draft every year. 64 players get drafted.

Chill the fuck out. Everyone likes the kid. If you don’t want to read that Jordan Hamilton is better, then stop reading every single comparison of the two on all the interwebs.

Regards,

TG

I PEE,
“I have seen him play more than anybody on this site combined. Stop arguing with me and just take my word for it. I think I’m more informed about this than any of u are. Goddamn !!!”

We are not able to argue with you since you have to have a brain to argue.
Besides we know that you have inside info on your son,Right ?
Hey Shawn did well even on the lowdown side, he did rebound well and he was in the right spots to screen and made the right pass, his fastbreak was a little like JH’s break.
You may be right that in 3 yrs he will be strong enough to be good/ outstanding just like Conner A. was maybe better then Conner, I hope so but lets talk about it in 3-4 yrs. Kid is goood……

For the last time – never said that Jordan couldn’t hold Shawn’s jock. All I said was that Jordan couldn’t do anything that Shawn couldn’t do. Name one skill Shawn doesn’t have. He can shoot the ball, handle the ball, rebound the ball and defend. All he is lacking is size and strength. You idiots think that talent is the difference with these kids. Jordan is more mature than Shawn is and that is mainly due to him being physically bigger and stronger. He doesn’t have a skill problem. His body will be where it needs to be in 3 years. I am so biased huh ? I have seen him do some amazing shit with my own eyes, take my wod for it. I only vouch for him as much as I do becuase BC has dogged him since day 1 and it’s was ridiculous to treat a kid like that. Once again I am not his father. My last name is Powers not Williams, for the last time. Check nbadraft.net and read some of my articles since u clowns are convinced that I don’t know shit. I’ve been told that before and I always have the last laugh. Remember everybody thought I was crazy when I said he wouldn’t redshirt and that he was going to play significant minutes.

Complimentary player huh General ??? Watch u telling to chill the fuck out. U don’t know me like that.

What are you going to do? Kick the shit out of my internet? Vomit unintelligible sentence fragments until I scream to make the bad man stop? Continue to offer no content to this site other than Shawn Williams is Black Jeebus?

Williams is the 11th guy in the rotation. I think complimentary player is a compliment. Like I said up yonder, the kid does some things really well, but he has a long way to go.

He’s a freshman on the 3rd ranked team in the country that is 2 deep at every position. Yeah he’s a complimentary player, but you make it seem like that’s all he’ll be. His role will increase year after year and he will be one of the main options on offense. Hell, he would’ve been on last years team had he been on the team. Bottom line is the kid is more talented than you people on this punk ass site give him credit for. How do u know that he can knock down an open shot and he never took a shot in the game last week, so other than pregame drills you haven’t seen him really shoot the ball. Like I said, relying on other people’s scouting reports. I know the kid better than u do and that makes me more qualified to talk about his skill level.

I have it for Vince Young the way ipowers does for Shawn.

Vince was D1 football ready when he came to UT,Mature and strong enough to do the job. The point being that Shawn is not at that point,give him 2-3 years and he may be a go to player.

“I know the kid better than u do and that makes me more qualified to talk about his skill level.”

How do you know that just because you see him at the house? There are a few people that travel around and see kids play AAU and Nikes, Vagas, the Peach. Does he always play against top flight kids during HS season ??? Please .You know everybody in the gym when you see a kid?

 You may know something but when you say you are the “more qualified” then you reinforce what people think of you. I know you dont give a shit but Shawn may be getting some shit just beause of your crap. A lot of posters have said decent things about Shawn but not to your satisfaction . Nobody is going to change their minds so why do you persist in being a ass about it . Everyone has a opinion just like you do.

Iam PEE,,
 Do you know what palgiarize means ? Or maybe plagiarism ? Just saying now but…..

Asshole. I have obviously been on the circuit and seen him play against the top players in the country and put up great numbers. If I hadn’t I wouldn’t be able to make the case that I am more qualified, I would be just like that the rest of u clowns watching him on TV. I was there in Vegas when he had 36 going into his sophomore year at the Adidas Super 64 against an EBO team that was absolutely loaded team full of guys 2 years ahead of him. I have talked to Dave Telep over at scout.com, who has a vote for the McDonald’s game and told me that “there will be kids who make the McDonald’s team who are not as talented as Shawn”. I was on the other end of the phone when he told me he was going for 50 after he found out he didn’t make the McDonald’s team and he went out that night and damn near did it with a 45 point game. It takes a lot of talent to be able to basically call your own shot like Babe Ruth did and go out a do it. I have had talent evaluators from across the country tell me that Shawn has the potential to be a GREAT player and then I get on this shit and read about him being a Conner Atchley type, are you fucking serious ? I know for a fact Coach Barnes told him that he thought Shawn was a pro. Kids mature at different stages, I will concede that point. The only point that I have ever tried to make was that his talent and skills should never be in question. There is not a lot of difference with these kids from a talent standpoint. The majority of it is maturity. I know this because I’m on the circuit every summer and see these kids regularly. That’s all I have been saying about Jordan and Shawn. You guys have made it seem like I got a problem with Jordan or that I said Shawn was better than Jordan. Shawn is just as talented as Jordan. That open court play that Jordan made the other day when he went behind his back and got the 3 point play. I have seen Shawn do that on numerous occasions. I wouldn’t be dumb enough to say all this shit without having visual evidence of it. As far as him playing against top flight kids. He played on the preseason # 1 ranked team in the country last season. They played a national schedule every year since his sophomore year, like I said you don’t know what I know about this kid. I’m on the circuit every summer and I have seen all of these kids. Like I said go to nbadraft.net and read my articles. Obviously somebody thinks I know what I’m talking about.

And by the way Vince Young didn’t come in setting the world on fire as a Freshman, even with all that maturity u say he had.