Kansas Jayhawks Football Players Meet with AD — Without Mark Mangino

There’s a very simple explanation as to why Mangino wasn’t at the meeting. No buffet.

So what the hell did he do?

That’s not fair. All the man asks for is a small passed tray service, with some light canapes. Some of those puffed pastry things would be nice. Something sweet on the last pass would be suitable. But Diet Coke, please.

Maybe the players are just concerned that their coach is getting bigger, and is smelling like shit all the time.

So what the hell did he do?

Rumor ’round the campfire is misconduct towards players.

You may not see Mangino on the visiting sideline this weekend. That’s perhaps a worst-case scenario, but a very real possibility.

You know what this is about, right? BCS. That’s what this is about.

The rumor mill agrees with Hiphop. And that we may hear about that as soon as this afternoon.

Ugh.

Generally, something this hyper-reactive requires a racial slant.
 
It’s my opinion that Mark Mangino called Todd Reesing a filthy Mexican. Which is both execrable behavior and also makes no sense, and thus further cause for alarm about Mangino’s mental state.

Two words: Dutch oven.

Rumor ’round the campfire is misconduct towards players.

He put their meal money in the freezer, but then spent it all on a late night Domino’s extravaganza that required 5 Ford Escapes and one Honda Civic to deliver?

So who can KU get for next season? They’re not as appealing of a football program for head coaches as some of their fans think they are, but they’re a lot better than some of their rivals’ fans think they are. At least that’s the way I see it.

What coordinator out there would love a relatively low-pressure gig at a basketball school in a BCS conference where competing for the division title is feasible within two years?

He put their meal money in the freezer, but then spent it all on a late night Domino’s extravaganza that required 5 Ford Escapes and one Honda Civic to deliver?

This won’t be the last you hear of Jaimie Campaglio!

Dedfisher says Mike Leach is a candidate.

Patterson has Kansas ties. I’m not saying he’d be interested if Mangino’s tossed to the curb, but stranger things have happened, and the Big XII is a BCS conference. TCU also has a new AD and there’s no guarantee him and Patterson will mesh.

No one’s tossing Mangino anywhere. He’s really, really heavy.

Terry Bowden is 11-1 at North Alabama…. just saying.

Fran

Mike Sherman

Kansas problems are on D. I would hire Greg Robinson. I think he’s going to be free pretty soon…..

Huck – that’s what I’ve been trying to figure out as well. I’m told we’re going after Muschamp.

We’ll trade you Greg Davis for Mangino straight up.

I would not hold my breath for Muschamp. Major might be a better candidate.

HJ —

We’ll have to throw in two lineman to make the lbs work.

Someone once said that what people hate more than being poor is getting poorer:

2002 2-10
2003 6-7
2004 4-7
2005 7-5
2006 6-6
2007 12-1
2008 8-5
2009 5-4*

Mangino’s had more wins (25) in his last three seasons than 32 KU coaches have had in their entire careers. In hindsight, a 7-5 record in 2007 might not have been a bad idea.

We’ll also trade you Huckleberry for gingerballs straight up.

I think hope Hip was kidding.

If KU is actually a real contender for Muschamp, Missouri, TAMU, and OSU will pre-emptively fite their coaches so they can get in on the bidding.

HJ – You keep Greg Davis the fuck away from me. But consider the second one a done deal. Since we can’t shake on it, you can expect your consummate bottle of Makers in 3-5 days.

Huck – Not in the least bit. That’s why this shit is going down this week…so we can make our pitch while we’re down in Austin.

No fucking way KU gets Muschamp. They might not even be able to put enough pressure on us to give Champy a raise.

Charlie Weis may be available, he’s Mangino light (but just barely).

For the sake of pointless speculation, here’s something I found on another board:

From a Mizzou MB:
Just talked to my buddy. The meeting that happened last night was called because Chris Harris kU starting (I think) CB was “smacked around” by Mangino on the team charter plane going to Colorado. I guess Harris was getting an ear full from Mangino while they were boarding the plane, and Harris turned around and barked back. I guess Mangino grabbed Harris and threw him to the ground, and had to be pulled of by a couple asst. coaches. Also, my buddy said that Mangino will not be fired today, or anytime until the season is over, and he feels EXTREMELY confident that he is gone after the season. “No doubt he’s done” were his exact words. Another funny little tid bit he told me, I guess my friend talked to Bill Young earlier this year, and Bill told him that kU would never be consistently good under Mangino because “nobody wants to work for that arrogant prick.”

NY Horn: Good info, and I’m not the least bit suprised. I imagine it started with,

Is Mark Mangino gonna have to choke a bitch?

NY Horn – that isn’t pointless speculation. Especially the stuff from Bill Young.

More info:

from a KU MB:

“MM was offered half his buyout to walk. If he doesn’t walk, KU goes public.

Meahwhile, assistant coaches are going to meet this evening to decide whether MM should coach against UT and possibly rest of season.

No new HC standing in shadows.

If MM walks, interim coach will come from staff, most likely Warriner. "

Sounds like he may need to be fired for recruiting a bunch of pussies:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4664164

Mangino’s initials should be M&M.

We can help. Call us..

I’m applying for a waiver on my preseason Kansas write-up.

I accounted for possible myocardial infarction(s) , but this was unforeseeable.

What half of Mangino’s buyout consist of? Two 18 wheelers loaded to the gills with ho-ho’s and twinkies? Or a personal franchise of Cici’s Pizza?

I don’t know much, but I know KU picked a bad week to fall apart going into a game. This will be very, very ugly.

Mangino hasn’t been the same since someone told him that Soylent Green is people.

It will be interesting to see if there is a drastic shift in the spread if Mangino is drop kicked before our game with them.

“It will be interesting to see if there is a drastic shift in the spread if Mangino is drop kicked before our game with them.”

My money is on the shift in the spread being greater than the richter scale reading.

But what if they play better without Mangino?

They will not play better without Mangino. He may be an asshole. He is disturbingly obese. But he is an excellent football coach and has done alot with very little at Kansas.

The shift in the spread will probably be the game coming off the boards for at least a while, possibly permanently.

I could actually see KU fighting their asses off against UT if Mangino get’s the boot before the game. Mangino is a very good coach, but you got to factor in that “win one for our Defensive Coordinator who isn’t an asshole” bump. Which means KU loses by only 31.

That’s true, all bets will probably be off. Anyways, does anyone remember if Mangino has always been obese? Does he have some kind physiological issue or has he just grown over the years because he doesn’t give a shit?

ghost – You’re right, and it hardly matters at this point anyway, but the proof is in the pudding this year. He lost this team a while back and if they break free of that distraction, who is to say it won’t help them? Things can’t get a whole lot worse at this point.

OK. Feel bad for the Kansas team but…

Seriously people! I have WORK to get done. I cannot afford to be worrying about this Muschamp thing right now! Stop freaking me out.

“That’s true, all bets will probably be off. Anyways, does anyone remember if Mangino has always been obese? Does he have some kind physiological issue or has he just grown over the years because he doesn’t give a shit?”

I seemed to remember hearing a story during some game broadcast that when they were both on Snyder’s staff that Mangino used to beat Bobby Stoops in racquetball. I would assume that this was several hundred lbs ago.

Pure wishful thinking, Sasha. Worry about the Aggies luring Mack Brown away instead.

You’re right, and it hardly matters at this point anyway, but the proof is in the pudding this year.

If it was in pudding, you’d think Mangino would have found it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpuUemDBz-8

How much pudding?

There is no price at which KU could get Muschamp. Ridiculous.

You might – but probably not – make that trade as the DC at Auburn. His stock is at an all-time high now, and a lot of the competition is going by the wayside. He would have his pick, if he didn’t already have the pick of the litter in hand.

I don’t even know who I’d put on the list outside of UGA as a serious suitor. Would a Meyer to ND (which I can’t see either) create ripples? I don’t feel it personally. This season has gone according to Mack’s master plan; regardless of the outcome the timeline is in place.

If Mangino is out, one would think Lew Perkins would go after someone with Texas recruiting ties.

Dennis Dodd is reporting Mangino out, Leach to Kansas and Muschamp to Tech.

I’ve been thinking about lately about Muschamp and Mack’s plan. If we win out and get him MNC #2 in 5 years, I’m fairly certain Mack’s gone and his successor is already in place.

Not an earth shattering revelation, I know, but it’s certainly something nice to think about.

Just think about how this off-season could potentially go for us finally not getting screwed in the polls by Stoops and his coaching cronies.

Leach might take a job at Louisville. Mangina might get canned at Kansas. And Stoops himself might finally feel the heat enough to leave Norman for a job like ND.

Instead of getting voted 20th while the Land Thieves get voted 1st, we’d actually have fair and balanced representation across the league! Well, except for Art Briles of course. And if that motherfucker didn’t learn his lesson after 40-0 in the first half I’m sure Mack can make his life miserable next year.

Despite my utmost wishes, I have no illusions that we’d have a chance at Muschamp. I did rather enjoy the fact that some of you took it seriously though. Put a smile on my face on an otherwise horrible day.

Good point, johnny. I think Davis will be a smooth transition.

what’s gonna really suck is if greg sticks around when mack leaves. Wer’e all assuming they ride off into the sunset together but you never know. Man, that would blow.

I think Muschamp’s first order of business will be having Akina choke Davis and then firing them both. JMO.

No way Muschamp goes to KU. He’s already being talked to about the Notre Dame job.

You got it wrong, Phenom. Stoops to ND. Muschamp to OU.

M uschamp is going to coach Tech, ND, GA, and OU next year. KS will have to settle for Leach. Stoops will wear visors to high-school football games and get into fist-fights at dirt-tracks. Like everyone else in Oklahoma.

One thing is for sure, Muschamp will be a head coach very, very soon. People who follow Texas closely could tell what a difference he made in our defenselast year, and the harder edge we gained. That’s why the Vols wanted to talk to him. This year has emphasized his value to the whole nation. Mack has had great teams in his 12 years here, but this is the first time the defense could legitimately be called the nation’s best (I know 2001 we led the nation in yardage allowed, but that defense got lit up twice at season’s end), and is the dominant unit on the team. Plus, spending two years as Mack’s right hand man gives him the AD’s seal of approval as a guy you can have manage a program.

Muschamp isn’t leaving for no Iowa State or Clemson. If he doesn’t take over soon in Austin, I expect him to get offered a job like Georgia or Florida State.

If it was in pudding, you’d think Mangino would have found it.

HAHAHA

Fuck, that guy’s not going anywhere. DeLoss Dodds would force Mack to retire before he allowed that to happen. Mack looks fully prepared for the Texas country club circuit to me.

Muschamp seems to have so much fun as DC (BOOM!!), I halfway believe him when he says he doesn’t want the HC job for a couple more years. Is that naive?

Mack: “Will, I just wanted you to know that if we win the Rose Bowl tomorrow, I’m going to resign and you’re going to be head coach of the Texas Longhorns. How do you like that? Will? Hello? Are you listening to me? Who are you calling on your cell phone?”

Muschamp: “Hello, Greg? Hey, you’re fired! BOOM!”

So, before the players met with the AD, which one gave Mangino the wafer thin mint?
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The scary thing is that the Big 12 is only three coach firings away from the Big 10. Get rid of Stoops, Mangina, and Leach and things get really ugly, really quickly.

This may be the wrong thread, but hey, we are talking head coaches. Came across this on a rivals interview with little bobby stoops:

 Do you think your team has been snake-bitten?
 I don’t like to say that, but obviously it has been an incredibly unusual situation with this many injuries. And, really, almost all of them are on offense.

 Have you ever been a part of something like this in all of your years?
 No. Not at all.
 
Have you talked to anyone about how to deal with it?
 No. I don’t think anyone else has been through something like this, either. Not this many [injuries].

I find this to be hugely entertaining. Really Bob? No other team, EVER, has had this many injuries? Nobody could possibly know what it’s like to lose star players to injury? Only you right? It took a freaking miracle for you to have a down year. Couldn’t be that you don’t get your backups meaningful playing time, could it? Geez, what an arrogant prick.

Mangino used to beat Bobby Stoops in racquetball

No, you heard it wrong. Mangino wanted to eat Bob Stoops in Hollandaise.

This is apparently from a KU board:

“I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that one of his star players suggested they just skip this Saturday’s game @ Texas to be “injury free” for the finale vs. Missouri to be bowl eligilble. Rumor has it that he charged the player like a wildebeast and had to be restrained by the entire O-line and 2 coaches. Sounds like he was one punch short of taking the Raiders head-coaching position. We love you Mark. I like the way you fire us up before we play #3 Texas. Hopefully this gets the guys motivated to win a big one."

If true, you at least have to give the “star player” some props for intelligence, but then subtract them again and then some because he should have known that Mangino’s long list of favorite things to eat would have to include pussy. And how, from the description of the wildebeeste stampede.

If you want a rumor to think about while watching the best team in college basketball beat Memphis tonight…all the KC area talking heads are tweeting that Mangino will be out Thursday.

Oh and I’ll through in the rumor that Turner Gill has been contacted…

What ESPN is reporting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4664164

Obligatory.

Equally obligatory.

Seems like the smudge campaign has commenced:

Then, on June 11, Walters wrote his eighth — and last — ticket on Mangino for parking in the loading zone.

In his written report, Walters said that Mangino had told him that he’d been unloading notebooks and had asked how he could unload without getting a ticket.

Walters responded that he should get a loading permit from one of the parking booths on campus or to contact the office.

"He got out of the car, slammed the door and came within about a half-foot of my face and started yelling at me, saying that I couldn’t answer any of his questions and that he works 16-hour days and has no time to get a pass," Walters wrote, in his report.

Mangino, Walters said, had insisted that he’d only parked in the zone a few times and that he’d paid all five or six of those tickets.

"This job gives you power, does it?" Mangino said, according to Walters. "You feel real f—-ing powerful walking around like a big shot, huh? … Why in the hell else would you be bothering me with this?"

No, Walters said, the office had told him to issue tickets for cars parked in the loading zone.

"So offices tell you what to do?" Mangino said, according to Walters. "F—-ing offices walk around telling you what to do all day?"

Mangino eventually got back into his car, Walters said, before continuing: "You just don’t like talking to me because I’m ethnic, just because I talk with my hands."

I would have liked to witnessed this tirade.

"I halfway believe (Muschamp) when he says he doesn’t want the HC job for a couple more years. Is that naive?"

I fully believe him, so, no, I don’t think that’s naïve.

Muschamp is clearly a world class X&O guy and one of the best motivators of players I’ve ever seen, but those aren’t the only items on a HC job description, especially at a place like Texas. The PR requirement here is demanding and Muschamp doesn’t appear at all comfortable in that capacity yet. In fact, when the red light is on, he looks like he’s in a dentist’s chair.

Personally, it looks to me like Mack is still having too much fun to call it a career yet, and I think Muschamp is more than willing to focus purely on football for a couple of years while observing at the elbow of a guy who is generally conceded to be very good at managing PR.

“The shift in the spread will probably be the game coming off the boards for at least a while, possibly permanently.”

I think the actual shift in the “spread” will be the large drop in the amount of food needed at KU football’s pregame meals and catered events.

You’re going to think I’m making this up, because it sounds so absurd and because it has been over two years, so I have forgotten some of the details…but this is completely true.

I attended the Maxwell awards two years ago in Atlantic City. Winners in different categories were Tim Tebow (collegiate player of the year), Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, neither of who showed, and were publicly roasted by the likes of Ron Jaworski and Andy Reid, Harry Kalas (announcing award), etc….

Mangino was to receive the collegiate coach of the year award.

So a major snowstorm hits that weekend, and Mangino’s flight into town is cancelled. The program tries to fly him in via one of their own personal jets, but they can’t because Mangino is so huge, he literally can’t fit into one of the plane’s seats. So…he never made it.

True story. So there’s that. I’m out.

“Some players have threatened to transfer because of what they perceive as having been spoken to in an inappropriate manner, another source said.”

Indeed, it hurts to be treated like a piece of meat.

http://bit.ly/1japns

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The PR requirement here is demanding and Muschamp doesn’t appear at all comfortable in that capacity yet. In fact, when the red light is on, he looks like he’s in a dentist’s chair.

This is one of my favorite characteristics of Will’s.

"This is one of my favorite characteristics of Will’s."

Yep, me too, Sailor. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy’s demeanor in every facet of his job, and get a huge kick out of the look on his face when he’s publicly fielding questions. If ever nature designed a more patent "fuck with me at your peril" signal than that particular look, I don’t know what it is.

And frankly, as long as he’s putting a product on the field like he has this year, I don’t care if he’s got the social skills of Rasputin. But information dissemination, politicking, glad-handing, damage control, spin, and generally bearing a very high profile face of the University at all times matter a lot. Muschamp knows they matter, and he’s self-aware enough to know that he neither relishes that part of the job much nor is he particularly good at it. At least not yet.

Sizzlechest, FTW.

Muschamp doing interviews bears a strong resemblance in style to Josh Beckett. Check out his remark to Heidi Watney at about 32 seconds.

Ah, yeah – Joe Crawford Is Willing To Drive a Bus over Mangino.

I’m from Mizzourah.

plot thickens…

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4669621

I most certenly like your angle that you have on the subject. I wasnt planning on this at the time I started searching for tips. Your ideas were totally easy to get. Happy to find that there’s an individual here that gets it on the spot what its is talking about.

I love sports.