Vince Young vs. Battle Red on Monday Night (open thread)

All I know is I’m not in a good place emotionally heading into the game.

I have way, way, way, way too much of my personal self invested in Vince’s success tonight.

What 35-year-old has two thumbs and may have his first heart attack tonight?

Kerry Collins?

as a houstonian and longhorn, this game has me conflicted

34-31 texans is what i would hope for and probably about what the final will end up. there are going to be 70k ridiculous NFL fans packing the house tonight and i expect there to be far fewer VY jerseys than there were in 06.

This is tough as well for me. Diehard Longhorn fan and Texans fan as well. I want The titans to score close to 40 points with VY throwing for 4 TDs and rushing for 1, but I want Squab to toss 5 TD and win 45-42.

To hell with Defense.

Conflicting the Catholic Church zoning rights/strip club, try out St. James Cabaret off Rankin Rd. Us firemen call it the church. And remember, it not that Starla has a nub for an arm…its what she can do with nub.

Enjoy.

Bet! Bet! Bet!

As a Longhorn and Houstonian, I am not conflicted in the slightest. I refuse to root for a professional team too stupid to take a chance on a hometown hero. I was born here with the Astros, Rockets, and Oilers (RIP) in my blood, but I have no such obligation to the current NFL team here.

To quote a friend of mine, “I’d pull for Vince if he was raping my wife.”

Go Titans

The worst thing that could have happened to Vince is to go to Tenn. He needed a coach that was gonna work with his QB, and mold him into a NFL QB. Vince, on the other hand, went where the coach wants his QB to be a 78 passer rating robot. I hope somehow those two are split up. Whether it’s Fisher gone, or Vince gone, I just want him to go to a place where he can throw a 12 yard pass, and someone actually can turn it into 35 yards.

I hope Young keeps up the game manager role to build his stock, then gets the hell out of there, or Bud let’s the Fish go. So yeah, I am hoping for 250 yards passing and 50 yards rushing, with 2tds and no turnovers.

This is just full of awesome.

For me, my personal race to homosexuality is fucking neck-and-neck between Vince Young and Will Muschamp.

Nordberg, your first comment made me laugh. Your second comment made me scared.

The comments on this post are priceless.

The only way I won’t cheer for Vince is if he regains eligibility and enrolls at OU.

nordberg is either a really big fan, a swinger, or both.

It’s stunning to me there are people who figure out reasons to root for the Texans who have any affiliation with UT whatsoever.

Plus, the Texans and their fans make rooting against them so much fun.

Go Kasey Studdard and Frank Okam!!

Hey, I didn’t say I agreed with him. He’s a sick fuck of varying degrees, depending on if he’s reading this or not.

Offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger sometimes has to push him to use his rare athletic gifts. "He tells me to run much more than I think of running,‘’ Young said. "He tells me 1-2-3, check your receivers, and if they’re not open, go. Run. He’s pushing me to run.’’

Finally.

Actual exchange on Monday Night Countdown:
Steve Young: “Your whole job is to mess stuff up”
Matt Millen: “That’s a good point, I was good at it”

Several states away

City of Detroit to Millen: FUCK YOU

Consider this the open thread for the game.

I heard BCs theme song “Look Me UP” by “Blue Magic” (released in 1973). I heard it on the radio the other day on my way to the club.I stumbled upon this blog a few months ago and its great. I really miss my days at UT. I feel like I never left reading this blog. Great job, you guys.

“I’m not a chemist, but if you put Chris Johnson and Vince Young in the same backfield, I see explosions,” said Gruden.

I’m not sure John, I think you must be a chemist, because you sure as fuck aren’t worth a fuck as a commentator.

At least we were “treated” to Vince running the 40 in boxer briefs…

I also want to wish The Barkers a Happy Thanksgiving. I know you can’t be everywhere at once, and I know there are alot of people who want your help, you can only do so much. But could you please do more of those Barking travel articles. I love em (not to get off topic or anything like that). I even wish you guys could do a write up on the lovable and goofy Bevo. Oh, but what do I know- I’m just a blonde!

They’re ignoring you, Nadia. This is a sports blog, honey.

I drive to Salado every morning. I’ll start blogging the shit out of that.

There’s Vince Young, and then everyone else is a little bitch.

Did Bob McNair have to ask Vince Young’s permission to paint the endzone? Does Vince Young charge McNair $25 when rent’s late?

Goddamnit, you can’t run the option in the NFL.

Everyone suddenly becomes wide open all over the field when they fake one way and roll the other. Every time.

On that TD throw from Vince Young, I believe the old Vince would have checked down to CJ in the flat. He probably would have picked up the 1st down too and it would have been a good play. THe difference with this VY is he kept his eyes down the field and fired a perfect strike for the TD.

Anybody know how many players are in this game that played in the 2006 Rose Bowl? I can think of 5.

VY
Griffin
Studdard
Okam
Cushing

They’re ignoring you, Nadia. This is a sports blog, honey.
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Screw you. I am officially in love with Nadia. She rocks.

Hook ’em!!!

Hall, LenDale White.

Can’t believe I forgot those 2. That’s 7. Pretty amazing actually.

Nadia, show your boobs.

Cushing needs a deca injection at halftime.

Vince just patted the line judge on the ass. Awesome.

Brian Cushing’s tits:

It don’t matter who’s in Austin, Vince Young is still the king.

For me, my personal race to homosexuality is fucking neck-and-neck between Vince Young and Will Muschamp.

uthookem, one man you could chalk up to confusion or an identity crisis. i think you just crossed the finished line.

Bironas. FFFFFFUUUUDDDGGGE

I need a FG, Vince. An FG to cover. VINCE!!!!

I wish i could just fast forward to the part where Vince runs it in from the 15 with no time left on the clock and the entire city of Houston melts down around him.

All i know is pollard needs to shut his mouth and that freakin’ texan DL needs to have his leg broken for kicking VY’s leg like that. that could have been a broken leg or blown achilles after he kicked the back of his own achilles. i hate that crap…

I could not have been more excited when McNair bought the Texans franchise and came out to Jim Rome’s tour stop… then he brought in every Aggie in the country, gave the team a stupid name, and passed on VY. Now I see Texan fans rooting against the Titans and I think how much better off they would be if THEY JUST BUILT BUD THE FREAKIN’ STADIUM!!!

Could this game be any worse officiated? It’s like the Big 12 B crew or the SEC “A (wink)” crew.

They’ve missed about a dozen Texan penalties.

This game is pretty good. This Uerige Dopplesticke is pretty good, too. Some sort of $5/bottle beer with a ceramic cork. Let’s go Bironas.

Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

BIRONAS!!!!!!!

I just won $50 by going 8/8 in my totally legal football pool!

WTF. I hate the pooch kick. Make them earn the GD yards.

Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

Nebraska, bitch!

I love that Vince thinks Michelle Tafoya is a man.

Awww, Matt Schaub is crying!

Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

Actual text from CTJ:

listen , we have gotten ourselves into a pickle. the titans need to win and then I am sprinting to the car. we have angered an entire bar and 2 different guys bigger than me have said they are kicking our ass after the game.

Vince doesn’t always drink beer. But when he does, he prefers Dos Equis.

All right. Seriously. Schaub is a good QB. Don’t be an ass. I love VY, and I’m thrilled with his success. But show some class.

F the haters in the A with a C and then J all over their Bs.

“What do you say to all the people that said you couldn’t play at this level?” – typically moronic reporter.
“I love them too” – VY. Or, if you speak Vince, “4-0 bitches.”

Did Mario Williams do anything after the first series?

Ummm, Vince Young is clearly a better QB than Matt Schaub.

Another CTJ text:

I can’t ever explain what just happened. I just had a girl that had to get pulled away from me, screaming and cussing me, by her boyfriend that was simultaneoously flipping me off, while I screamed “Vince young scores!!!! bitch!!!”

I believe what makes that guy so interesting is he has a great “VY kicked my ass and them mushroom stamped me.”

Trips – I never said he was a better QB. I said he was a good QB, and making fun of him is pretty classless. How you picked up “better” is beyond me.

F Matt Schaub and his Hapsburg chin. It’s a sign of inbreeding.

i wasn’t typing in your directon Sasha. Just positing a fact.

I’m pretty sure that Matt Schaub is a va-jay-jay, so have at me now.

Sasha – Dude makes millions of doillars playing a game. He can take it. It’s hardly “classless” to make fun of a pro football player for appearing to be crying after a game. It’s not like I was making fun of him for crying over a dead relative or nursing kids back to health in Somalia. That would be classless. Come back to reality.

He wasn’t really crying anyway. He was just really sad and sweaty.

Ha ha… Matt Millen just said the Titans could run the table. What an idiot!

I think Cushing reaggravated his Rose Bowl PTSD.

Is it classless to make fun of Matt Millen for an undiagnosed MMR?

Wow. You’re pretty much an idiot. Thanks for clarifying that even further.

Really? Are you kidding?

Well, I am sorry I offended you. I hope Mr. Schaub knows how strongly you defend him. Maybe someday he can repay the favor.

I’d even defend Bradford if you started that crap. And I HATE sooners. But Bradford is a good kid.

Horn’s fans have typically been classy, especially in winning. Doing what you’re doing is typical of a sooner. If you have a good guy, playing well, who ends up on the losing end, it is classless to make fun of him. Just ridiculous. Act like an adult.

saying that vince young is a better nfl qb than matt schaub makes about as much sense as aggie fans touting jerrod johnson’s heisman credentials. i love vy, but c’mon….

OK, but I’d rather have Vince on my team than Schaub. Sorry.

jon, wins and losses. Don’t get caught in that trap. VY just pantsed a team with superior talent on their home turf. If he played for the Texans, their playoff dreams would be reality.

dude, i’ll give vy full credit for that win tonight, he bitch-slapped a fairly decent houston defense, as he routinely does when he faces the texans. as far as the whole wins-losses argument goes, that’s the same fucked up logic that gets people like tim tebow the heisman trophy…i think there’s more to the picture regarding what makes a win and a loss (bironas vs. brown played a large part tonight).

would i rather have vy on the texans? sure, but that’s the part of me that sees the world through orange-shaded glasses.

is vy a “better” nfl qb than schaub? i’m not quite ready to go there yet, but he’s building on something this season for sure…

I’d pay good money to drink at an Oklahoma bar with CTJ while he’s heckling the OU vs OSU game.

I’d also want a car waiting outside with the engine running.

Since the NFL went to to a 12-team playoff format, teams that are 5-5 after 10 games have made the tournament about 31% of the time.

Want something realistic to cheer in Houston? The Astros pitchers/catchers report in about 75 days.

The Texans, now and forever, screwed the pooch when they failed to draft Vincent Paul Young, Jr.
He would be the biggest thing in town, Houston fans would be hooked on the sweet taste of playoff success, and the Texans would own Texas, not be a complete distant afterthought to a schizo and completely unlikable Cowboys team.

Sasha,

I aplologized for offending you. There’s no need to continue the trash talk. Whatever “crap” I started was just a little good natured ribbing at a guy who is clearly doing very well for himself. I am sure he’s a nice guy and would not have taken my comments seriously.

The fact that you did says a lot more about what’s going on in your life than me.

Relax. Folks are just kidding around. It’s the internet.

Matt Schaub sucks. He’s fucked me in fantasy football and that’s enough for me to not like him. I didn’t see him crying, but if he did – Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

Is Matt Schaub a better NFL QB than Vince Young? Who the fuck cares?

Does Matt Schaub win more NFL games than Vince Young? NO!

Again…just full of awesome watching Vince come in again and beat the team that passed on greatness. I hope the Texan fans enjoy not going to the playoffs…again.

Oh yeah, our hoops team is fucking sick.

I think it would help if I lobbed in a few Mangino fat jokes:

Just as fish that live in caves eventually lose their eyes, Mangino has forgotten what the word “feet” means since he hasn’t seen his in so long.

jon-

Matt Schaub has the best receiver in the NFL. He has a great tight end. He even has respectable complimentary receivers too, which get single coverage when Johnson is terrifying opposing defense.

Now, give VY Steve Slaton, Owen Daniels, and the rest of the Texans skill players, and you would see Young throwing for 250-300 yards too. The difference is Young wouldn’t lose the game in the waning stages. He is a winner, and winners make plays, and give confidence to other people around them.

Also,let’s all pray that Vince stays healthy. The 3rd down conversions he made tonight with his legs don’t happen if he’s dinged up and can’t run. He is gaining on the passing abilities to absolutely kill defenses, and as long as he can stay healthy, the defenses will open up even more to his passing.

As someone much better than me said a few weeks ago, we are seeing the “mid-sophomore” Vince right now…just hang on and watch.

Hook ’em!

Damn it’s good to be a Longhorn.

Vince Young looked good tonight, much better than that cry baby pee-pee pants Matt Schaub.

Vince could have used Matt Millen’s input in some of these last few drafts.

As a die-hard Longhorn and a loyal Houstonian this was a tough one to take. As much as I wanted the Texans to pick Vince, probably my favorite football player ever, by last season Mario looked like at least as good of a pick. Sort of a, we passed on Jordan but got Hakeem. But now? Mario has failed to develop as a consistent pass-rusher in his fourth season (while nursing a shoulder injury) and Vince has reeled off four straight wins as if he was never abandoned by his franchise for well over a year. All Vince haters in Houston who patted themselves on the back? The debate begins anew.

But what makes me angriest are all those so-called Houston sports fans who root for the Titans. I guarantee I love Vince just as much as you, but I want him to fail against the Texans. They are, after all, my hometown team. Bud Adams is slime. He shanghaied this city for tens of millions of dollars to expand and improve the Astrodome, then jumped ship for NASHVILLE a mere ten years later. Now he brings Elvin Bethea, Warren Moon, Earl Campbell and all the players WE supported up to Nashville to honor them, lording stolen Houston pro football history over us. He threw over 30 years of supporting his crappy team in our face by blaming the fans instead of his greed for the move, the implication being that we weren’t a quality NFL fanbase. Well, after seeing how many alleged Houstonians handled the Mario-Vince pick, I think Bud might be right. Maybe Houston isn’t worthy on an NFL team. See, commentator sunburnt orange above. If you can lower yourself to rooting for the team that abandoned you, then I don’t respect you. Bob McNair fought hard to bring Houston an NFL team, and people are only too happy to piss on him. VY til I die, but Texans for life.

Schaub threw for 300 and 2 TD. And he sucks? You guys are ridiculous.

Sugar – you get in the internet, call someone names, and you think that something is going on in my life? Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

Can someone bring back the men that used to post on BC? I tire of these little boys.

we are seeing the "mid-sophomore" Vince right now…just hang on and watch.

I was thinking something similar last night, though a teething baby kept me from seeing most of Vince’s first and second downs. The clutch play reminded me of Vince prior to Mizzou ’04: good in the clutch, but not yet dominating to stay out of clutch situations.

I guarantee I love Vince just as much as you, but I want him to fail against the Texans.

Then, no, you don’t. And I love the lack of awareness that you and people that share your mindset display. “The last professional football team (business) owner that operated a franchise in our city abandoned us. So I’m going to blindly support the current professional football team (business) owner that operates a franchise in our city.”

Hello? Bob McNair, like Bud Adams before him, doesn’t give half a shit about your loyalty. He only cares about your money.

“I guarantee I love Vince just as much as you, but I want him to fail against the Texans.”

I guarantee you are 100% full of fucking shit.

Here’s the deal. I’m rooting for VY. I love watching the guy play. I have some DVDs of old Doak Walker footage from the ‘40s, and it’s the closest I can think of to VY’s play. The guy just seems to be reacting quicker than everybody else. If he played for the Broncos, I’d root for the Broncos. If he played for the Redskins or Eagles…well, this Cowboys fan was never that crazy about Jerry Jones to start with, so…

I’ve never had a reason to care for the Texans. I’m a Cowboys fan, so they were poised to take the position the Oilers used to hold – 2nd favorite NFL team. No more. Watching the Texans crowd last night, I realized that they are all eaten up with bitterness about VY. If Vince signed with the Chiefs, and only came to town every few years, they would still boo him, and the team would still make it the biggest game of the year. Segments of Houston may love Vince, but the Texans’ fans hate him, and will always do so. Somehow, Vince failure is a Houston Texans victory. I can’t imagine ever again rooting for the Texans.

Maybe if they draft Colt…

“And I love the lack of awareness that you and people that share your mindset display. ‘The last professional football team (business) owner that operated a franchise in our city abandoned us. So I’m going to blindly support the current professional football team (business) owner that operates a franchise in our city.’”

If you want to get into the irrationality of fandom, then we can be here all day. OF COURSE, it’s a business. OF COURSE, it was a business decision. Does that make moving the Oilers any less of a douche move? Hell no!! If you say Bob McNair only cares about my money, then even if that’s true I can accept that. Irregardless, he brought an NFL team back to my hometown!!

To me, it’s no contest. I am not rooting for a team from Tennessee or from suck-ass Arlington over a team from my hometown. If you want to call me a sheep then fine. But we are all sheep then. And if you’re the type of person who follows sports without any affiliation or connection to a team, without living through the highs and lows of a franchise, then I pity your mercenary ass.

If nordberg’s standard of whacking it to the 2006 Rose Bowl DVD (2005 on Sundays, to add spice to the relationship) is to be held to all of us, then I suppose he’s right about me being full of shit.

Huck I think you are wrong to compare Adams to McNair. By all accounts they are very different men.

Last night was interesting. VY wins, his legs extend drives and help give CJ space and his receivers drop passes. Just another day at the office and another win. And the texans are as snakebitten as ever. 4 losses on essentially the last play of the game this year. Guh

I grew up an Oilers fan and still don’t understand why it was okay not to give them a stadium but buld the biggest and best for a new franchise. The dome was a pile of shit and nobody this day and age should have been forced to play in that rats nest. I continued to support the Titans until all the old Oilers were retired or gone and then they drafted VY so I loved them all over again. I also root for the Saints since I graduated with Brees at WHS.

The Texans and their fans are bitter and I still haven’t met many that know dick about football they just enjoy the atmosphere at a game.Enjoy Schaub without AJ very soon!

Alex,

What “ups” are you referring to?

TaylorTRoom’s position is totally defensible. How the hell could I fault all my family and friends who are Cowboys fans (or not NFL fans at all) for rooting for Vince? If I wasn’t a Houstonian or didn’t care about the NFL I DEFINITELY would be too.

Confessional: Texans fan base is full of aggy and cougar high. This cannot be denied. We truly are the Baylor of the AFC. We even cheer for first downs like Baylor does. Indeed though I feel like Metallica wrote “One” about the Houston Texans fan experience, I yam what I yam. I won’t go a-changing.

To me, it’s no contest. I am not rooting for a team from Tennessee or from suck-ass Arlington over a team from my hometown. If you want to call me a sheep then fine. But we are all sheep then. And if you’re the type of person who follows sports without any affiliation or connection to a team, without living through the highs and lows of a franchise, then I pity your mercenary ass.

I’m confused. Is the mercenary comment supposed to offend? Because that’s all that professional sports is. A bunch of mercenaries. I just so happen to be a Dallas Cowboys fan by birth and upbringing as my father is from the Dallas area. But once I set foot on the University of Texas campus, professional sports suddenly didn’t seem so important. Which brings me to my next point.

I have a huge affiliation and connection to a team, thank you very much. Many teams, in fact. All of them calling themselves the Texas Longhorns. And that affiliation and connection is one that I feel comfortable with. The odds of the University of Texas Longhorns packing up and moving to Nashville, Tennessee seem pretty small.

You enjoy being loyal to a professional sports team. That’s fine. I’m just not comfortable with the logic of rooting for mercenary players playing for mercenary coaches paid by mercenary owners and then berating others for being mercenary fans.

Huck, didn’t intend to address you particularly as mercenary. I was speaking in hypothetical for others reading the thread, about a certain subset of NFL fans in general, not you or your connection to the Texas Longhorns. There are a lot of NFL fans out there who follow the pro game without any affiliation. Imagine following college football without cheering for or supporting the Longhorns. What a nightmarish wasteland that would be. I’m sure you would agree that having a team overall enhances the fan experience. That’s what I was speaking to.

Really though, cheering for the Texans makes me wonder what I’d do without the Longhorns. I can’t envision cheering for both the Texans and the Aggies. Urp.

“And if you’re the type of person who follows sports without any affiliation or connection to a team, without living through the highs and lows of a franchise, then I pity your mercenary ass.”

Um, the Texas Longhorns? I could care less about the NFL unless I’m watching Vince Young tear up your piece of shit team, again.

But once I set foot on the Austin High campus, high school sports suddenly didn’t seem so important.

FIFY.

Nordberg, The Longhorns aren’t a franchise. You’re thinking of Coker and the Roadrunners. Which by the way sounds like a great 70s band.

This is my first year to not have season tickets to the Texans, so I’m fairly invested. I went all day yesterday thinking I was going to root for them, afterall the game means more to them within the context of the season. I was getting asked left and right all day as my allegiances in the sporting realm, or any realm where opinions are relevant, are widely known. Then the lights came on and I just can’t root against VY. He gave me more absolute euphoric moments in the National Championship game then the Texans ever have.

Alex, I understand your point and to me it’s defensible.

VY is not better than Schaub although that’s based on not having a large enough sample size of VY"s recent games. Schaub is not the Texans problem.

AJ isn’t going anywhere, that’s ridiculous.

Nate Washington should have held on to that fucking ball. Goddamn it, the same thing happened in ’06. A Titan reciever dropped a sure thing td.

Fuck the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys and Texans have the same amount of playoff victories since the Texans have been in the league.

One last thing, Bob McNair is a much finer man than Bud Adams. I’ve known people that have worked for him, and people that have bumped into him while traveling to an away game. McNair just straight up came over to some Texans fans at Pikes Market in Seattle and thanked them for making the trip.

I went to the game last night. VY is a very good NFL quarterback. Much better than he’ll ever get credit for being. He did what he does last night — willed his team to victory. The difference between he and Schaub was clear at the end of the game. Schaub looked lost and confused, waiting for Kubiak to tell him what to do in the last 50 seconds. Right after VY confidently led the Titans down the field.

I love VY. And I miss the Oilers. I’ve been trying to get behind the Texans, but they are such a damn aggie team. It must be said.

Not sure why some of you seem to think I was comparing McNair and Adams as human beings. I was pointing out something that should be obvious to anyone that pays attention. When it comes to their teams, they care about making money. The rest is just fluff.

“Nordberg, The Longhorns aren’t a franchise.”

You bet your ass they’re not, and that’s the point.

Oh — and how can you not like a team with Michael Griffin returning kicks and Bo Scaife catching passes. Damn them for leaving me.

I’ll tell you one thing, magnusbleuveigner. I completely agree with what you said about Schaub. He’s like the anti-Vince. All of his tangibles make scouts drool, but you can’t trust him to win games. He’s put up great numbers and made great throws this year, but also back-breaking mistakes. There was a lot of hand-wringing in Houston on Chris Brown’s failure to punch it in at Arizona…no one seemed to care the Schaub and just thrown a pick-6 on the previous possession on a lazy throw on a curl to the sideline. Cromartie made like Beamon and jumped all over that. A telling thing…when have you ever seen Schaub audible? A: Never. Even Vince, who apparently the Tennessee coaches didn’t trust to valet their cars after the Gillette Stadium debacle, is allowed to audible. That tells me a lot about Schaub.

It’s not like we’re the fucking Lions, Chiefs, Rams, or Raiders. The games are fun, the dissappointment inevitable. Drink it up, scope ass, enjoy. I don’t understand the hate for the Texans. I’ve never heard some stupid fucking Texan fan saying “This is the year!!” On the flip side, stupid fucking myopic Cowboy fan thinks every year is the year. This usually ends in their shock, and their shock only, when they shit the bed.

“One last thing, Bob McNair is a much finer man than Bud Adams.”

Kind of setting the bar low there, aren’t you?

I’ve never heard some stupid fucking Texan fan saying "This is the year!!"

You must not know many Texans fans. Or at least not listen to them. That’s all I heard from Texans fans coming into this season.

Ground,

Bo did his best to not leave you.

Me and my friends were enjoying watching the UT success last night. The reputation for having unproductive, soft players has been dispelled. Excluding Limas.

Did anyone else see that despite the game being in Houston, and VY being 3-0 at its start, Fisher made Kerry Collins one of his game captains, but not Vince. Fisher is a total prick.

Maybe about making the playoffs. That was a fair possibility in which many people nationwide bought into, not just Texans fans.

And they kept showing Whiskey Collins about every five minutes. Ridiculous.

“Bud Adams is slime. He shanghaied this city for tens of millions of dollars to expand and improve the Astrodome, then jumped ship for NASHVILLE a mere ten years later. "- TexanAlex

There were 15 stadiums built from the 90’s to the early 2000’s. Which means talks were probably going on from the mid to late 80’s to the mid to late 90’s. Exactly the time when Adams was trying to do what everyone else was doing.

There were 6 renovations done during this time span also. Only the bills were cheaper than ours(63mil). The others were, Jacksonville(121 million), Oakland(200 million), San Diego(78 million), Chicago(365 million), and Green Bay(294 million).

Only two facilities from the 70’s remained untouched, Arrowhead and the Superdome. None from the 60’s or earlier.

The Astrodome needed WAY more than 67 million dollars to bring it up to spec. Anyone from Houston knows that, by having to drive past that eyesore on 610. It was ugly inside and out. It was falling apart. That much became obvious when Reliant went up right next to it. The comparison was laughable. I gave you the previous stadiums age on quite a few of these, so you can see that they were built after the Dome was, and still deemed unfit.

Houston did everything Bud Adams was asking for after the fact. They separated the baseball and football facilities, and built a brand new state of the are stadium. So why didn’t they do that for him? simple. They just didn’t like him, and that’s why I could care less. To let your football team leave the state over petty differences is just ridiculous!

Can we also agree that Rob Bironas is a total prick? After his double gun salute, did anyone else see him pop the color on his pink shirt and go stuff his face with bacon-wrapped scallops in the Cooper Industrique guest suite? I totally did.

I would slice all of your throats for a bacon-wrapped scallop right now.

Shit, me too. What hath I wrought?

Judging by your namesakes, namesake, I believe you Nordberg.

Too soon!

i guess my problem is that i am a football fan. in any iteration. so i like watching NFL football. therefore, is it unreasonable to think i would be a texans fan? i’ve lived in houston for 29 of my years. for me, it goes like this.

longhorn football
longhorn basketball
longhorn baseball/houston rockets
houston astros
houston texans
vince young

if vince stops taking 18 month hiatuses, maybe he will move, by himself, up that list. and i say this as someone that was at the rosebowl in 05 and points to that as probably the best moment of my life. sad or strangely awesome, i cant tell.

They can name Collins whatever they want. I think Collins still being around helps Vince, because Vince knows that Fisher is just waiting for him to screw up to put Collins back on the field. It’s obvious Vince is leading the team.

The Houston sports radio today is fucking chocked full awesome.

I just think it’s class-less to not let a kid playing in front of his home crowd, with his family and friends attending, walk out as captain.

Do we have proof of life for CTJ? After watching him get beat up by a drunk Vasherized last time I’m worried that chick might have taken him out.

I watched the game late last night on DVR. Watching the complete deflation of the Texan fans losing the game on the last play was simply outstanding. The announcers fawning over VY while mentioning Mario maybe twice, also outstanding. I liked the tripping and out of bounds hit on Vince, but I particular enjoyed the part where you rib punched the president of the players association. You stay classy, Houston.

chick>drunk Vasherized>Vasherized

Adam Lambert > Doperbo > Boy George > Kris Brown > Perez Hilton > HenryJames > Charlie Weis > Lady Gaga > Ari Fleischer > Mike Gundy > Mike Tirico > Mike Lupica > Mike & Mike In the Morning > Trips Right

Folks this morning were asking for the NFL to suspend and fine the referee for high-fiving Vince after the game.

All kinds of awesome.

Vince finishes off another win in Houston by high-fiving the ref, called Michelle Tafoya “man”, and telling his doubters that he loves them.

“There are a lot of NFL fans out there who follow the pro game without any affiliation.”

Yes, they are called gambling addicts. I know them well.

I find it funny that I would like the Texans 10000x more if they were able to keep the old Oilers uniforms. I am jealous of the Browns for being able to do that.

VY rules!!

I think there are two kinds of Texans fans, and we really only get one posting here.

One is the Texans fan who loves Vince Young and feels all kinds of torn when this game comes around.

Then there is the majority of Texans fans who hate Vince Young and project all their lousy bitterness from years of football frustration, failure, abandonment, and futility on him. They need him to fail so bad because him succeeding is just too painful. One more painful indignity stacked on top of too many painful indignities to list.

I didn’t have that heart attack last night, and for that I thank Vince Young. I listed in another thread the sheer volume of things Vince was going to have to overcome last night. That was a lion’s den and a half.

The thing that most impresses me about his performance, more than the raging rabid cage of ags and coogs, more than the pressure and weight of the last year, was the fact that the Texans had 2 weeks to gameplan against his weaknesses, and he still had a great game.

I can’t believe more people didn’t also catch him say that it “Was a great win for the home team” as well. Ha Ha Ha Ha!