College Basketball: Texas vs Pittsburgh open thread
by HenryJames on Nov 24, 2009 9:11 PM CST
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PrintTexas wins the 1987 Bluebonnet Bowl.
Then Curtis Martin runs for like 300 yards on one of Mackovic's defenses.
So tonight's game is about bragging rights in a totally different sport.
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Varez Ward hurt his knee and was carried off on a stretcher in extended warm ups. Fuck the MAC
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply actions
Maybe it was a litter instead of a stretcher.
by HenryJames on Nov 24, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply actions
Goddamn I hate MAC football and ESPN.
We need Jerome Lane to break a backboard in warmups so we don’t miss any action.
Vasherized has predicted a 75-62 win. If we score 75 on Pitt, our offense is legit.
Hook ‘Em
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply actions
OMG, a college football game is taking the normal three and a half hours!! No way they could have prepared for that.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply actions
Texas is on pace for 90. I’m glad we’re missing it so we can watch a conference that is fixed.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions
If Western Mich scores a 5 pointer, that is a bad sign for our national title hopes.
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply actions
When Barking Carnival takes over the world we will not forget these shennanigans.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions
Interview the head coach…I fucking dare you.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions
Attaway to show the victory formation. Compelling.
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions
Announcers already tongueing Dixon’s taint.
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 9:35 PM CST reply actions
Dogus is playing some tough ottoman to man defense.
by HenryJames on Nov 24, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions
They showed a low angle shot of Ward’s injury. Stretcher? No. Litter? No. Gurney. Yes.
by sizzlechest on Nov 24, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions
Evidently these aren’t big east refs. That’s not a foul in any conference much less there.
Love the press early on.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions
McGee, the big man for Pitt, is right in Pitts sweet spot. Pity he’s already got two fouls.
What the hell kind of foul call is that on Johnson? These must be Patriot League officials.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 9:42 PM CST reply actions
Didn’t you see the horses? That was a travois.
What kind of name is Varez anyway? Comanche Indian.
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions
Looks like Barnes is working the officials more tonight than last night.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions
Balbay is looking good. Did he end up with the start?
by dick on Nov 24, 2009 9:48 PM CST reply actions
In ND football news, Jimmy showed up in a dark visor today and did not take his helmet off at any time while the media was around.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions
Man, this UT defense is one of the best I’ve ever seen at UT. Quick, long, and relentless. With our depth we really are going to wear down teams, especially those without a bench.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions
Balbay is a lot of fun to watch.
We’re a much better defensive team than offensive. Yeah, I know, a Barnes team… but considering how young we are that’s pretty amazing.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions
Brown and Hamilton are better 3 point shooters than what they have shown..we need them hitting those 3’s.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions
by scagnetti on Nov 24, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions
and “crumples”
i guess no one saw it on the broadcast obviously….
by scagnetti on Nov 24, 2009 10:03 PM CST reply actions
Re: collapsed for Ward’s injury. It was odd looking. They played the tape and it didn’t look like his feet slipped at all on the floor. Maybe hyper-extension of the knee?
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 10:05 PM CST reply actions
When I say “odd” I mean that it looked like a normal jump & landing then his knee gives out.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions
Relentless
This defense just wears you down. You can see it in Jamie Dixon’s eyes. He knows while his team is working this hard on offense in the 1st half, it will be even harder work in the 2nd half, and Pitt doesn’t have the stamina to withstand the pressure.
Since Dixon broke Texas’ heart as a player watching him get frustrated tonight would be just fine.
by srr50 on Nov 24, 2009 10:07 PM CST reply actions
ball, yep. He should take 3 shots. Spot up threes, put backs, and dime finishes. That’s it. Anything else and he’s stealing shots from better offensive players.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:07 PM CST reply actions
steve, exactly right. It’s our own version of forty minutes of hell.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:09 PM CST reply actions
We’re mixing in full court pressure off of makes and dead balls to add to the effectiveness.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:10 PM CST reply actions
Wow, some crap calls by the refs lately. Both sides.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 10:12 PM CST reply actions
Love it when the refs let them play for most of the first half then start calling everything in the last few minutes.
by kevwun on Nov 24, 2009 10:13 PM CST reply actions
Weird lineup here for Barnes. Sure to invite a zone with balbay and mason on the floor.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:13 PM CST reply actions
I feel like I’m stuck in 2008. WTF is Rick thinking?
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions
Nice line up…who does Barnes expect to score with those 5?
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions
Weird is a nice way to put it. That lineup could play 2 games and not score 50.
by kevwun on Nov 24, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions
We’ve had 4 empty possessions in a row with balbay and mason on the floor.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions
I just watched the Johnson “foul” and it was total crap. Johnson’s guy falls down and Gary gets a foul. Really bad call.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 10:18 PM CST reply actions
Five minutes without scoring with this group?
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 10:18 PM CST reply actions
This team has a lot to learn still. Some early losses will be inevitable and might not be a bad thing.
by dick on Nov 24, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions
Rick needs to quit being cute and play his best players. Dean Smith pulled shit like this, and knowing how much Rick dislikes Smith, someone should remind him of that fact.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions
Rick, stop experimenting. The halves are 20 minutes long, not 15.
by sizzlechest on Nov 24, 2009 10:20 PM CST reply actions
I like what both Jay Williams and Gottlieb said at the half. I like Jay Williams, he is waaaaay too intelligent for ESPN.
by dick on Nov 24, 2009 10:21 PM CST reply actions
Why are Jason and Doug surprised? have they not watched Barnes over the years? They are asking for flow and plays to be run instead of iso and well…our base offense…
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions
I think Wangmene touched the ball on offense as much as Avery Fucking Bradley. Hamilton was a ghost too.
Shot selection is atrocious right now. James has to know better by now.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 10:25 PM CST reply actions
“I feel like I’m stuck in 2008. WTF is Rick thinking?”
I’ve asked myself that question a lot over the years. I’m hoping this year will be different, but it isn’t starting out that way. So much for the notion that we can just overwhelm teams with talent and depth. Like Greg Davis’ running scheme, I guess we’re destined to be a work-in-progress.
by Blueshorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:28 PM CST reply actions
Yum, perfect brownies.
I’d like to pour my batter with that milf.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 10:30 PM CST reply actions
Blues; just hope the yearly looking over the shoulder to the bench before and after every shot by our young players does not happen this year. Rick has the ability to mentally break down some kids.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:32 PM CST reply actions
When you trade continuity for waves of pressure defense, you can never afford to have 4 role players on the floor with J’Covan Brown for significant stretches. You simply can’t. And to make matters worse, we’re trying to run offense through James and Balbay when the court has been reduced to an area four or five feet outside the paint. These two have proven they can’t operate in that environment. It’s astounding.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:32 PM CST reply actions
I don’t think Barnes cares. Seriously. It’s like Greg Davis and the run game.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 10:35 PM CST reply actions
Texas is too good offensively to give Jordan Hamilton minutes? Good grief.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions
We’re struggling offensively, so we’ve got Wangmene, Balbay, and Mason in the game.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions
And justin Mason matadors Wannamaker into the lane for an easy bucket. Why is he playing if he can’t guard?
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions
Then mason blows a layup. Sweet. Please make it stop. I feel like I’m watching Eric Hall.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:42 PM CST reply actions
Maybe this will force Barnes to recruit a big guy in one of these upcoming classes.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:43 PM CST reply actions
Is there a way to measure basketball IQ? There is a certain senior member of our team who would probably rank in the Forrest Gump range.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 10:43 PM CST reply actions
Hamilton and Williams should have been getting minutes this game.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions
Why do we run into each other on the court more than the average team?
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:46 PM CST reply actions
Our FT shooting is awesome as well. Refs are strahggling.
by dick on Nov 24, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions
We need to get in an open floor game because we’re not going to get a call in the halfcourt.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions
We’re 8 of 17 from the line. The free throw line. The uncontested one from 15 feet.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 10:49 PM CST reply actions
Who’s the retard saying that is not intentional?
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:49 PM CST reply actions
Dude followed with the right arm but announcers fail to mention it.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions
Stephen Bardo. He’s still pissed he’ll never be Marcus Liberty.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions
Im hoping this is the try out game as the reason for not playing Hamilton and Williams.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:52 PM CST reply actions
I feel like I’m watching Norman Dale playing four on five. This is assinine, no Pittman, no Hamilton. Rick’s nuts.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 10:53 PM CST reply actions
Lexi is a mix of James’ hands and Mason’s body control.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:54 PM CST reply actions
Is Jamie Dixon British? His teeth are at least.
by kevwun on Nov 24, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions
They should use our bball games as part of interrogation tactics. Just painful to watch right now.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 10:57 PM CST reply actions
Rick is trying to lose this game. I get the desire to feel out lineup combinations and experiment, but Jesus tapdancing Christ.
by sizzlechest on Nov 24, 2009 10:57 PM CST reply actions
Weird game. We are now 10 of 20 for FTs. Beautiful.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 10:57 PM CST reply actions
It feels like 25%, so we’ve got that going for us.
by kevwun on Nov 24, 2009 10:59 PM CST reply actions
I’d sacrifice all of your lives for a jump shot for Balbay.
by Nordberg on Nov 24, 2009 10:59 PM CST reply actions
Now I know how Carolina fans felt watching Serge Zwicker get minutes over Rasheed Wallace.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions
watching this brings back every barnes’ offensive nightmare of the last decade……i wonder what idiotic reason jordan hamilton’s in the doghouse for this time?
by snowman on Nov 24, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions
Hamilton, Pittman, James, Mason and Brown on the floor now. I expect domination.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions
I understand why our defense is so good in practice.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions
Jordan better chill out if he wants more minutes.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions
The game is pretty easy if you recruit well. Why fight it?
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions
First bucket of the game for Jordan Hamilton. Less than 10 to play in the second half.
by Blueshorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:03 PM CST reply actions
I seriously think Barnes wants this game close so he can throw in the freshmen and say, “Show me something.”
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:03 PM CST reply actions
I was just kidding because he scored right away.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions
You know, Hamilton could have gone for 20 tonight. We’ll never know I suppose. Sigh.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:09 PM CST reply actions
Is Chapman still sick? If so, that’s the bug of all bugs.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:09 PM CST reply actions
Refs usually do not call over the back enough, this crew is calling it way too much.
by dick on Nov 24, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions
Wow, just rewound the “foul” on Pittman and it was a horrible, horrible call.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:12 PM CST reply actions
Hamilton needs to get 15 shots a game. MINIMUM. He’s that good. And when he knows he’s getting 15 shots per, his shot selection will improve exponentially.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:12 PM CST reply actions
If these refs did games for Pitt last year, Dejuan Blair would have never been out of foul trouble.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:13 PM CST reply actions
Agreed. Hamilton has provided the separation here in the last 5 minutes.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:13 PM CST reply actions
Did I actually hear the announcers say “the refs are doing a good job of letting them play” at some point on this game???
by Hawkman on Nov 24, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions
We’re rebounding as well as Chris Applewhite.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions
Is this the worst officiated game in history or the second worst?
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 11:16 PM CST reply actions
Lexi refuses to grab a rebound. and this Bardo is driving me nuts.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:17 PM CST reply actions
It’s not quite Munich Olympics level but it’s getting there.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:17 PM CST reply actions
hamilton’s out b/c barnes didn’t like the 3 or that last drive
by snowman on Nov 24, 2009 11:18 PM CST reply actions
Barnes likes Damion James fadeaways apparently.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions
Just rewound that OFoul called on Balbay, what a load of crap.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions
Rewound the foul on Balbay and that was ANOTHER horrible, horrible call. The defender stuck his arms out, which is why the defender then appeared to take a charge. Ref missed the fact that the defender basically grabbed Balbay so that he would flop.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:21 PM CST reply actions
Glad I have DVR because I would never be able to see a replay.
by Church on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 PM CST reply actions
Quin Snyder is doing a line off a stripper’s ass somewhere.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 PM CST reply actions
Besides the ref calls, why is Hamilton not in? Is it a defensive decision?
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 PM CST reply actions
What is the line on this game? That would be the only valid explanation for these calls.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:23 PM CST reply actions
Yes, Rick, it sucks when you score 5 points in a minute after your team was held without a field goal the last 5 minutes of the first half.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:24 PM CST reply actions
Texas -8. Allegedly Vegas doesn’t believe just yet because we’ll be 4-0 against the spread after tonight.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:26 PM CST reply actions
outside of james, why are our bigs so bad at getting tough rebounds? they just don’t look dexterous at all, rarely getting a rebound that isn’t right to them.
by snowman on Nov 24, 2009 11:27 PM CST reply actions
Damion needs a rebound to get to 20 pts, 10 boards.
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:28 PM CST reply actions
Ha. We’re really fucking good. We played like 3 day weekend ass tonight and still rolled a pretty solid team without Jordan Hamilton or Varez Ward, and with Pittman’s ass in a foul trouble sling. Color me impressed.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:30 PM CST reply actions
Is that our band? Or the Forrest Gump All-Stars?
by sizzlechest on Nov 24, 2009 11:31 PM CST reply actions
Agreed Trips – also like to see them have to deal with a little adversity.
by Hawkman on Nov 24, 2009 11:31 PM CST reply actions
I’m not so sure Pitt or Iowa will prove to be any good as the season goes on.
by MerHorn on Nov 24, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions
Oh man. That band playing Texas Fight… the sound was so pathetic it was funny. Obviously not our basketball band.
Good game by the guys. Still some growing, but man. That D was amazing. First time I really got to watch the bball team.
Now if the football team will just stomp the aggies, life will be good!
by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Nov 24, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions
I’m convinced Rick and the staff places too much emphasis on lower body athleticism in their evaluation of prospects.
by Ronald on Nov 24, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions
how in the hell did that turn into an impressive performance?
- refs struggled
- FTs were bad
- effort was not always there
- Hamilton needs more minutes
- Bradley needs to be more assertive
- injuries might actually be a blessing in disguise for this team (hope Ward is ok though)
- good to see that foul trouble won’t be that big of an issue for this team, too much depth
by dick on Nov 24, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions
I think Pitt will be fine against teams that don’t unlimited perimeter defenders and crazed turkoman assassins.
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 11:35 PM CST reply actions
The one-l lama, He’s a priest. The two-l llama, He’s a beast. And I will bet. A silk pajama. There isn’t any. Three-l lllama
by Llama on Nov 24, 2009 11:36 PM CST reply actions
effort was not always there
I disagree. We just rotate horrendously (like in the wrong direction and shit) on occasion and stagnate on offense because we don’t have a system and shit.
by The General on Nov 24, 2009 11:38 PM CST reply actions
Balbay came of age this game. He’s legit. Please flank him with shooters though.
by Trips Right on Nov 24, 2009 11:39 PM CST reply actions
Agree with above Bradley had great defensive game and will only get better. We need to see much more of Hamilton and Brown and don’t pull the quick trigger on their first mistake.
Would love to see Brown, Bradley, Hamilton, James, Pittman
Bring Balbay, Johnson, Wen,Williams off the bench. Mason’s defense and energy overrated.
by Vic Scott on Nov 24, 2009 11:45 PM CST reply actions
“effort was not always there”
“I disagree. We just rotate horrendously (like in the wrong direction and shit) on occasion and stagnate on offense because we don’t have a system and shit.”
I am talking about the end of the 1st half and beginning of 2nd up until the point where Pitt’s McGhee got fouled and had an and 1 to tie the game at 51. It was a real weak give up foul. From that point on, we were intense on both ends of the floor and dominated. We need to be like that all the time, fatigue is not a factor.
Balbay is legit, a lot of my aggie and sooner friends talk a lot of shit about him.
by dick on Nov 24, 2009 11:45 PM CST reply actions
Looking at the stat sheet a few things jump out.
- Pittman had 1 rebound
- We’ve played four games. In three of those games we’ve had FIVE guys score in double figures. In the fourth game we had FOUR players, with one more guy at 9pts.
- Balbay had 10 pts, 8 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals and 1 turnover
by Texoz on Nov 24, 2009 11:51 PM CST reply actions
The team has known for some time that playing time will come on a day to day basis. With the depth we have, it is exactly what most of us on here have talked about leading up to the season. I want to see Hamilton get more minutes, I’m sure Barnes does too. But when you have a guy who is 1-6 from the floor, decides not to pass the ball into the block for Pittman (his man wasn’t attempting to deny the entry pass) and instead launch a 25 footer; well, that style of play should not be encouraged.
We have too many guys on this squad to make it a one man show. This isn’t the team we had when Durant was here, nor is Hamilton at the same level offensively as Durant was. I’ve maintained that we will go far if the guys buy into the idea of the team being more important than the individual. If Barnes allows Hamilton to pull that stunt, the other players might not continue to be so giving.
by EggNog on Nov 25, 2009 12:02 AM CST reply actions
how in the hell did that turn into an impressive performance?,/em>
Because defense is the constant.
We go through braindead periods — from both players and coaches on offense — but this team grinds opponents into dust. They don’t have anything left when it is crunch time in the 2nd half. No legs, no stamina, no strength. Pitt had open looks, but didn’t have enough left in the tank to square up and shoot.
This was a game that Texas has normally lost under Barnes — early season, no offensive flow, periods of indecision which leads to standing around. But that was on offense. At no time did we let up on defense. We might not have rotated smartly all the time, but everyone was moving and throwing their bodies around.
by srr50 on Nov 25, 2009 12:23 AM CST reply actions
After that game, there is about a 250% chance Balbay starts the next game. Defense, rebounding, defense, amazing passing, hustle, some more defense, and minimal turnovers and missed layups…oh yeah, and defense, are all things that Barnes values to the highest degree.
Hamilton and Williams are simply too good and Mason is simply too useless for the current minutes situation to be occurring.
Wangmene was absolutely horrible. He can’t catch the ball, fouls way too often and in dumb situations, doesn’t go after the ball, and has no offensive repertoire. So naturally he plays more minutes than his entire career.
I don’t care how many Goddamn fouls Pittman has in the game. When we are that stagnant we need his ass in there to give us some hope of scoring.
Imagine how much smarter Hamilton and Brown would play and how much more assertive Bradley would be if they didn’t think they would be pulled after one questionable shot or mistake.
We play great individual defense most of the time, but we still aren’t playing as a team. When the guys learn to play together and cover each others mistakes, we will be unbreakable on defense.
Overall in the tournament, we played two lackluster games (starting and finishing well in both, incidentally) and won by 25 and 16 respectively. Our lineups are already beginning to take shape, and guys like Brown, Bradley, Hamilton, and Balbay have shown they will be stars along side the established twosome in the frontcourt. I think all six of those guys could legitimately average double figures in scoring, and we will be very balanced in that regard (I.e. we won’t have one guy leading the team in scoring two nights in a row hardly ever).
by Blake Borron on Nov 25, 2009 12:39 AM CST reply actions
You can’t give guys especially freshmen minutes with no consequences or repercussions for their mistakes. When Durant was here he had to rely on the younger guys because he didn’t have the senior leadership that he has now. Hamilton was 2-7 tonight. He is not the messiah that Trips tries to make him out to be. He has had two 2-7 5 point games so far this season. Do you recall Durant having one game like that ? He simply is not a one and done type of player. He obviously has some skills but let’s stop with all this undue praise on the kid.
by ipowers on Nov 25, 2009 2:38 AM CST reply actions
In his first game against a competent opponent Durant went 7-19 including 1-8 from three point range against Michigan State in a 63-61 loss. Later he went 5-15 from the field including 0-4 from three point range against LSU in a 76-75 overtime win.
The difference was that Durant was allowed to keep putting up shots. With good reason, of course.
by Huckleberry on Nov 25, 2009 7:13 AM CST reply actions
Egg, you make a good point, but Justin Mason isn’t going to help us get to the promised land.
What kind of leash is John Wall, Xavier Henry, and Demarcus Cousins on. It ain’t short.
by Trips Right on Nov 25, 2009 7:51 AM CST reply actions
“He has had two 2-7 5 point games so far this season. Do you recall Durant having one game like that ?”
No, Durant never played that little, nor shot only 7 shots in a game.
by nordberg on Nov 25, 2009 8:22 AM CST reply actions
Although Shawn Williams didn’t actually get any minutes, I thought he played better than Hamilton.
by HenryJames on Nov 25, 2009 8:29 AM CST reply actions
Wall and Cousins don’t have leashes; they play for Calipari.
As of now, I’m not sure how Self is going to treat Henry, but I’d expect him to get the yank on pretty short notice, given how he’s handled freshman in the past (i.e. Playing Stephen Vinson over Chalmers). But he let him play through a little more than I would have expected against Memphis, so it remains to be seen.
by Hiphopotamus on Nov 25, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions
The only person here to compare Durant and Hamilton is ipowers.
The only person who fellates Shawn Williams like a stripper with rent due at a Vivid open audition is ipowers.
Coincidence?
by The General on Nov 25, 2009 8:34 AM CST reply actions
I kept expecting to see Carl Krauser bring the ball up the floor for Pitt. That cat was there for ever, atleast it felt that way.
Barnes-ball is very tough to watch. I fell asleep three seperate times watching.
by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 25, 2009 8:34 AM CST reply actions
What are the qualifications for entry into the Vivid open auditions. Just wonderin.
by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 25, 2009 8:36 AM CST reply actions
We go through braindead periods — from both players and coaches on offense — but this team grinds opponents into dust. They don’t have anything left when it is crunch time in the 2nd half. No legs, no stamina, no strength. Pitt had open looks, but didn’t have enough left in the tank to square up and shoot.
This was a game that Texas has normally lost under Barnes — early season, no offensive flow, periods of indecision which leads to standing around. But that was on offense. At no time did we let up on defense. We might not have rotated smartly all the time, but everyone was moving and throwing their bodies around.
Couldn’t agree more, so I looked it up. Here are the scores for the last 10 minutes of the first four games:
UCI — 25-13
WC — 20-9
Iowa — 24-12
Pitt — 24-11
Second-half shooting: Pitt, at 11 of 30, 37 percent, is by far the best of the four opponents. The other three shot worse than 25 percent. Meanwhile, Texas shot 9 of 18 against WC, which was by far its worst. In the other games, UT shot 18 of 27 twice and 17 of 26 from the field last night. Against Iowa, they made all 17 of their two-point FGs in the second half.
Texas FT shooting has improved in the second half of each game, too, for whatever that’s worth. Pretty sure turnovers have gone down as well, but I don’t have an easy source on that.
For this season, anyway, the first half is going to be prologue.
by Bob in Houston on Nov 25, 2009 8:50 AM CST reply actions
I think we need change our expectation level for this team with respect to teams in years past. This isn’t about Pitt or Iowa, or about beating the Baylors or Oklahoma States in conference. It’s about competing at a final four level. It’s about beating Kansas, Kentucky, and Michigan State. That’s our measuring stick.
My point is, when you put Mason, Balbay, Wangmane, James, and Brown on the floor for extending periods of time in a non-conference game, and you happen to be held scoreless for a 5 minute stretch, you’re doing your team and your younger players a disservice. If Hamilton was pulled for not entering the basketball, then so be it. I have no problem with that. Coach him to do it and move on. If this thing escalates into a Barnesian pissing match as SkyMonkey has alluded to time and again, then that’s an issue. A talent like Hamilton needs some freedom to operate.
by Trips Right on Nov 25, 2009 9:01 AM CST reply actions
I agree, Trips. Barnes always thought he wanted to coach in the NBA… he wouldn’t last a month. The best players play because they have to. You can’t afford to bench them because you’re ticked at them.
I don’t want Hamilton to have his own wing in Barnes’s doghouse. Doesn’t help the team reach the goal.
by Bob in Houston on Nov 25, 2009 9:05 AM CST reply actions
Fuckballs…Ward is at least in the same building as Dogus in terms of pissing off the other team’s top ball handler, and we would have used him extensively on someone like Collins. This also means that we will see more of Dogus and Mason on the court at the same time, which is not good.
by uthookem on Nov 25, 2009 9:39 AM CST reply actions
Williams has shown he deserves at least 8 minutes of play last night, he got zero.
Hamilton should get 20-25 right now. Barnes has done this every year, he will mentally erase talent.
by MerHorn on Nov 25, 2009 9:49 AM CST reply actions
unfortunately, i dont see a single thing mason brings to the team at this point
by huge on Nov 25, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions
Does anyone know if Gerry Hamilton is posting basketball thoughts anywhere?
by Ronald on Nov 25, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions
Just looked on AAS Web site and didn’t see anything about Ward being out for the year.
by Blake Borron on Nov 25, 2009 11:23 AM CST reply actions
Gerry posts on Inside Texas, the ESPN affiliated web site.
Also, they just hired a former graduate assistant under Barnes who is terrific. I think it’s ipowers, actually.
by SL Xpress on Nov 25, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions
Durant was allowed to play through bad shooting nights for a few reasons. 1) That team was not as deep as this one, 2) Durant didn’t fuck up nearly as much as Hamilton and 3) He was entirely too talented offensively not to have on the floor. Like I said Hamilton is not on that level.
by ipowers on Nov 25, 2009 7:13 PM CST reply actions
Damn Ipowers,
I like your post above and if SLX says your terrific then you are in my book…. You just got out of the Outhouse to the porch steps….. Welcome aboard. But no “bareback” shit though..
by SkyMonkeyHorn on Nov 25, 2009 7:49 PM CST reply actions
Also, they just hired a former graduate assistant under Barnes who is terrific
Matt Cumro is the guy writing basketball for IT and he is outstanding. Gerry Hamilton posts there often. If you want to pay a site that has Horns basketball coverage, IT is the place.
by The General on Nov 25, 2009 10:30 PM CST reply actions
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