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Texas Longhorns Hoops and the Top 5 errr 6

Just before Texas gets into the meat of its nonconference schedule, let's talk about the top 5 or 6 teams, along with the Horns, that are vying for the number 1 spot on "Trips Right's Way Too Early, If You're Going to Crown Them Crown Them, National Championship Contending" list, or TRWTEIYGTCTCTNCC list for short.

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These are the handful of contending teams that have a decent shot to cut down the nets at the end of the year, along with Duke. Yeah, because Duke doesn't have a chance in hell, and I'll tell you why shortly.

To further qualify my list, I admit to not having watched much of other would-be contenders and Top 10 teams like Purdue and West Virginia so don't flay me. I'll throw them in the mix at a place and time of my choosing. My Krav Maga instructor said I could, but of course he was talking about dealing with terrorists and not top 10 lists. I take liberties.

So to get the ball rolling let's start with...

1. Kansas Jayhawks They are, at this time anyway, the best college basketball team I've seen so far. And I'm not factoring in their ridiculous 36-0 run against the Fighting Steve McNairs or any of the other also-rans they've smoked in the last month or so.

What's Impressive?
Sure, they were taken to the wire by an undermanned Memphis squad, but they've impressed me because Coach Self has seemed to get "role buy-in" from the wealth of talent on his team, a bit sooner than some of the other big dog programs that seem to be sitting on the porch.

Again, I/we all knew they'd be ridiculously deep, just look at the fact that the Jayhawks play 9 guys regularly, have 5 guys averaging 2 assists or more per game, and have 4 guys averaging double digits. What's more impressive is the defined roles of their big 3. Xavier Henry is the wing du jour. He's an athlete that can shoot it, score it, rebound, and make plays for teammates. He's their go-to guy. Cole Aldrich is the inside presence every team needs but few possess. He'll pound you inside and make you account for the paint before thinking about defending the perimeter. He also rebounds and plays defense above the rim. And finally, Sherron Collins, he's the seasoned senior point guard that makes it all go.

Show me a team that has the holy trinity of point guard, wing, and post man at this talent level and I'll bump the Jayhawks from my top spot. The roles have been solidified and that makes Self's crew ahead of the creme de la creme at this point in the season.

What to worry about?
Well, picking nits, the 'Hawks haven't really played anyone outside of Memphis and they took Kansas to the wire on a neutral court. It's easy to have defined roles and look like world beaters when you're playing Hofstra and Alcorn State.

2. Texas Longhorns
Speaking of not playing anyone yet, the Horns still have plenty of question marks due to the competition they've faced thus far. With Michigan State and UNC on the horizon, we'll find out a lot about this team soon enough.

What's Impressive?
Well, to the naked eye Texas looks like crap for 30 game minutes and then you look up at the scoreboard and they've won by 20. Why? Because they physically beat you up for those 30 minutes and then coming down the stretch teams lose their legs, and by default, they can't rebound, they can't defend, and more importantly they start missing shots due to tired legs. Make no mistake about it, Texas is currently playing Izzo-ball, but the good news is it's Izzo-ball Mateen Cleaves and Mo Peterson to go to on offense. And, of course, those Spartan clubs didn't have a 6-10 290 pound dunking beast that shoots 82 percent from the field. So we got that going for us. Which is nice.

What to worry about?
Roles and talent maximization. Texas had its answer at point guard forced upon them when Ward went down and Balbay blew up. And the two or at least combo guard spot is J'Covan's to lose at this point. The problem for Texas is the other two young pups have yet to really bite. One of either Bradley or Hamilton needs to emerge before Texas can have a true identity. Sure we can send players in waves in an effort to wear down opponents, but against the UNC's and KU's of the world, these waves will be matched and that's when Texas will need to have a core group of players to go win ballgames. And if that core group involves Mason getting minutes equal to Bradley and Hamilton, Texas ain't maximizing talent.

3. UNC Tar Heels
Yes, I know, they lost to Syracuse, a team that lost a scrimmage to what amounts to Athletes in Action, but hear me out.

What's Impressive?
The Heels are young, and if you're going to beat them, you better beat them now. The 'Cuse game caught them at precisely the right time with precisely the right defense. A good zone team can zone the hell out of UNC until the Tar Heels find their rotation and chemistry. That night against Syracuse UNC didn't have a semblance of a rotation nor any chemistry When they find these components, look out. They're every bit as talented as teams like KU and Texas, and they may be deeper than both. When coach Williams finds his core group, look out.

What to Worry About?
Quite simply, a glut of frontcourt players. If you're UNC, you almost wish you could trade a couple of forwards for a shooting guard. I mean, who do you sit out of Davis, Thompson, and Zeller? There isn't a 3 man among this group, and we're not playing in the Big East circa 1985. You need a small forward that can shoot and handle to defeat zones and soft man pressure. When you play 3 bigs it also hurts floor spacing and by default guards like Drew and Ginyard. And I haven't even mentioned other elite post players like plastic man shot blocker John Henson and the Wear twins.

It's really going to be tough to get all of these great players minutes at two spots. Granted it's a good problem to have. If I'm Deputy Dog, my core group is Davis and Thompson at post, Ginyard at 3, Drew is obviously the point, and whoever is hotter between Will Graves and Dexter Strickland gets the other wing. Mix and match from there with your bigs.

That typed, The Heels aren't a final four team yet, but they will be.

4. Michigan State Spartans
Izzo rolls out another tough minded, physical bunch that will be hell on wheels come tournament time.

What's Impressive?
Well, they're deep and they actually have offensive fire power. The Spartans are pretty damn similar to Texas in terms of strengths and weaknesses. They can throw bodies at you and wear you down, but when faced with equal talent, they need to find their premium rotation to be at their best. But the depth is impressive and offensive talent is the best the Spartans have had in years.

What to Worry About?
Well, quite frankly Raymar Morgan. He kills this team when he's in ballgames especially when offense is run through him. Much like Damion James, Raymar Morgan needs to rebound, defend, and finish. If this issue isn't addressed, talented teams that can withstand State's physicality will beat the Spartans by taking advantage of MSU's offensive inefficiency. MSU is at its best with Roe, Summers, Green, Lucas, and Allen on the floor as much as possible.

5. Kentucky Wildcats
These cats definitely fit in the category of "if you're going to beat them you better beat them now". But right now they're young, dumb, and full of...err...bad shot selection. But man can they play. They'll get beat by a team like Vanderbilt and then turnaround and run a solid team like Duke right out of the gym. But that's today, February and March are another story.

What's Impressive? They have the most talented point guard in America and may have the most talented player in John Wall. The kid is electric. When Bradley won player of the year honors I gave the requisite golf clap and then posited on this web site that Wall was still the better player. I love Avery, but Wall has the unique ability to get to any spot on the floor with basketball or into vacant houses. He can blow by you in a phone booth TJ Ford style. And he can shoot... The basketball, not people.

What to Worry About?
Well, John Wall. He can do whatever he wants on the floor and generally does which is dangerous for a player that always has the ball in his hands, evidenced by his 4 turnover per game average. He also risks alienating UK's inside bell cow, senior Patrick Patterson, by not delivering the basketball enough to satisfy the star senior. It takes a special type of point guard to handle all the politics and moving parts involved with running a team as prestigious as UK's. To handicap the outcome, you must first know the quality of brain matter floating around in Wall's cabeza. If he can learn the nuances of the position, UK is final four material, if not, you may see the Cats get upset in tourney at the hands of a 15 seed.

And then there's the impostor.....

20. Duke Blue Devils
Yeah they're top five or six in the polls now, but this team will be lucky to stay in the top 25 the whole year. Why, well, because despite popular opinion, this is a transition year for Coach K in that he's going away from his pressure/perimeter oriented schemes on both ends, and trying to become more of a physical/interior slanted squad. Think Nebraska moving from the option to a pro style attack.

The problem is that they're still not physical inside and don't have the interior offensive presence to run a 4 out 1 in get it to the block and back out for J's style offense. Duke is still a penetrate and kick team personnel wise, but the bad news is they lack players that can really penetrate save maybe Dawkins. Essentially the Devils are 3 shooters, Sigler, and a JAG inside. They'll continue to struggle until Coach K gets some different personnel. Some kids with jets and a competent post player would be a start.

Look for the Dukies to struggle especially when a team has a matchup for Sigler.

As for Duke in the top 10....

Thoughts?

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KU struggled against Memphis because of the Tigers’ pressure defense. They didn’t respond well to that at all but it was nice to see that kind of swarm early in the year because they’ll see a lot more of it come conference play.

Texas comes in waves but it will be important to keep Pittman on the floor. Obviously he’ll sit a lot because he’ll need breaks, but keeping him out of foul trouble will be huge against some of the teams that can match size. Come conference play he needs to be in there at least 25 minutes per game. I think he will be.

NC losing to ‘Cuse is no big deal, as you said. Does Boheim ever lose in MSG? It’s very rare. Combine that with the fact that Roy Williams always sucks when playing there, and you have a recipe for a beatdown.

MSU has been far from impressive this year. I’ve only watched 2 games so far but they’ve seemed very disorganized. I know Izzo will bring it together but I’m not nearly as impressed as I was last year.

Kentucky will be really good come late January and early February. Can they keep it together in March though? I know that with AAU ball, the Freshman Flameout doesn’t happen as often but the season will still take a toll on this young team. Especially with 3 players playing over 30 minutes, and another at 28.9. And once Cousins gets his fouling under control a bit more, he’ll be near 30 minutes too. They can’t keep that up.

Duke is very beatable if you can shut down the lane. Shut that down and you don’t have to worry about the kick-out for the wide open 3. That’s the only way they beat people.

by Triston27 on Dec 3, 2009 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

Great piece, Trips, BINAHOKAYA.

And I’ll tell you why I’m not as high on Kansas as you are. The great play from role guys is impressive, generally, but, in my opinion, will be severely limited against real competition. And against the best, I don’t like Sherron Collins as much as everyone else. He’s good, fair to say ‘very good,’ but he’s just not great. I hate him as a go-to guy.

To be fair, I think they’re fantastic and as strong a favorite as any to make the final four. But if I’m going to write KU in the final box of my bracket in March, Xavier Henry will have to be a guy that’s terrorizing. Not just contributing.

by PB @ BON on Dec 3, 2009 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

A Kentucky bandwagon fan’s 2 cents (keep in mind I haven’t seem them play a full game all year, besides highlights):

1. On Patrick Patterson: He’s actually a junior, but you wouldn’t know it by his maturity level. If you think Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford are good kids, they ain’t got nothin’ on Patterson. He told his mom that he was going to go to school for four years and graduate college; Kentucky fans thought they’d be lucky if they got 2 years. I don’t see him sticking around for a fourth, but I don’t see him complaining about his role, either. Case in point: he stuck through the abortion that was Billy Gillispie’s offense, which pretty much consisted of some points if Jodie Meeks was hot or if Pat-Pat snagged an offensive rebound and was selfish enough for the putback. Kid is a team player through and through, and he’s just happy to be on a winning team for once.

2. On John Wall: Wholeheartedly agree with you on the Wall-Bradley comparison. It was nice to see Bradley get his kudos by ESPN, but Wall is the dead-on favorite for #1 in the NBA Draft next summer. If you think watching Dogus “no shoot” Balbay and Justin “glue guy” Mason running the point last year was bad, imagine watching the exact same thing, but about 3x worse, in Derrick Jasper (a dead-on persona of Balbay if there was one) and Michael Porter (like Justin Mason, if Mason’s only discernible skill was looking like he could hit a 3 because he was skinny and white).

3. On the talent level: The freshmen talent level is otherworldly. Imagine the Texas talent pool of Kevin Durant, DJ Augustin, Damion James and Justin Mason. That’s Wall, Bledsoe, Cousins, and either Orton/Dodson (we’ll see who comes on more by the end of the year). They also had AJ Abrams; Kentucky has Darius Miller. Now imagine that LaMarcus Aldridge had stayed. Well Kentucky kept Patrick Patterson. Glue guy PJ Tucker? Glue guy Ramon Harris. (if only I could make the Boobie Gibson/Jodie Meeks parallel as well…sigh.) That’s how sick this Kentucky team is. Would I be surprised if they were upset in the second round, a la Durant? Not one bit? Would I be surprised if they cut down the nets? Nope.

by jc25 on Dec 3, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

Just put this up:

<a href=“http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/ratings-stats/tools/cbkbmatchup.php” target=“_blank rel=”nofollow">College Basketball Matchup Analyzer

Obviously it’s very early in the season so that data hasn’t stabilized, but there it is.

by Huckleberry on Dec 3, 2009 2:37 PM CST reply actions  

“Obviously it’s very early in the season so that data hasn’t stabilized, but there it is.”

Fucking excuses.

by uthookem on Dec 3, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

All I’m trying to say is that you shouldn’t bet your house on Texas and the under tonight just because the analyzer says that’s the way to go.

You should bet HenryJames’ house on it.

by Huckleberry on Dec 3, 2009 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

“You should bet HenryJames’ house on it.”

That won’t fly. He’ll just unhook the septic hose, hitch it up and park it somewhere else.

by Texoz on Dec 3, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

I’m going to the game tonight. Trips, give me some things to look for away from the ball…besides the pom pom girls.

J’Covan moving without the ball? Hamilton’s defense and positioning on offense?

Will USC provide ANY match up problems? Should I nap the 1st half away and enjoy the second half slaughter?

by Texoz on Dec 3, 2009 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

Watch Avery Bradley on defense. Watch Hamilton run the floor. Both can take your breath away at times.

by srr50 on Dec 3, 2009 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

Watch the new stat girl walk the court during timeouts.

by nordberg on Dec 3, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions  

Texoz, watch Hamilton move without the ball. If he chases it around like he has been, he still has a ways to go.

Watch to see how quickly Jordan gets yanked once he takes a bad shot or two.

Also watch Pittman work to establish position and see who’s looking to enter the ball to him and who isn’t.

Other than that, USC is dogshit and won’t provide any sort of test whatsoever. If they do, we have problems.

by Trips Right on Dec 3, 2009 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

Watch the new stat girl walk the court during timeouts.

There is a dirty old man in the drum besides me. Allsome. If this is a no bra night, watch out.

by The General on Dec 3, 2009 7:30 PM CST reply actions  

Stephen Bardo just used a tea-bag reference in the Texas Tech game. The play by play guy stumbled for about two minutes before he pulled it together.

by Trips Right on Dec 3, 2009 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

This team’s development is fun to watch. Brown is effortless. Hamilton is smooth. Pittman’s muscles are showing. This is fun.

by java on Dec 3, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

Well, there were TWO stat girls tonight. I’ll say that.

And, Pittman really needs to pass the cussing ball when he’s getting quadrupled team under the basket. Yes, quadrupled teamed and he tries to muscle to the hoop. That was very early in the game. Like our our 4th or 5th possesion.

And, Avery is a defensive beast on the court. He’s like some 7-headed hydra that constantly needles the ball handler. PGs are going to hate playing that dude. Having said that, Dogus gave Bradley a beautiul pass (after Dogus made a steal) and Bradley didn’t go strong to the hoop and the Trojan defender was able to block what should have been a monster dunk.

by Texoz on Dec 3, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions  

Another poorly played game. Another ~20 point win, ho hum. Disheartening to see Jordan out there…his role is going the wrong way. I am able to blame Barnes less and less for this, though. Hamilton is a HORRENDOUS defender. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at the college level. It’s like a joke; his man takes him every single time, regardless of who it is. Like watching Varez vs. Duke last year. Bradley was a psycho on defense tonight, love watching that kid play. He wasn’t overly effective driving the ball, seems like he’s still adjusting to the fact that other people are in his athleticism range now. We shot pathetically tonight—that needs to change. Dex was very, very, very bad on offense and very, very, very amazing on defense. Balbay is by the far the best guard on the team right now. I can’t even explain some of the sick moves he pulled in the SC game because, well, I haven’t seen them before…

by Blake Borron on Dec 4, 2009 1:05 AM CST reply actions  

All of these teams have struggled to be consistent, watching them over the course of the season to see who “gets it” will be fun. I tuned in to both Mich State losses, so I haven’t seen them play well yet. Bad sampling though, obviously. Duke looked awful last night, having to rely on a long slow white guy for offense isn’t a good plan. I’m still angry at them for last season’s tourney bounce and the phantom call near the end of the game.

Xavier Henry is a stud, he has the highest ceiling of anyone on the Kansas team. He will be a nightmare for us if we put Hamilton on him unless we see a huge turnaround in Hamilton’s defense over the coming months. In fact, I’m not sure who we have to guard him successfully. I’m just glad we play them at home.

Kentucky I wouldn’t mind playing against. They are certainly dangerous, but they just seem sloppy.

by EggNog on Dec 4, 2009 1:38 AM CST reply actions  

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