Recruiting Roundup: December 2009
We've narrowed our targets substantially on what should prove to be a strong finish in our recruiting year and I wanted to keyboard a few ill-informed thoughts and opinions on where we stand,
what factors will be in play down the stretch, and how we close it all out.
WR Darius White just announced that he's skipping his OU visit to go to OSU. BON contributor Ghost of Big Roy considers it good news. I'm not so sure. Keeping an elite WR away from OU is always a good thing, but ultimately bringing him into our fold is better. Getting OSU involved in the recruitment of this kid isn't good. This should be a concern for Sooners and Longhorns alike as I have no doubt that OSU can pitch a pretty appealing package to Darius. They'll show him some Dez Bryant film, discuss how he'll be featured as The Man, promise him a starting gig as a freshman, possibly talk financials (you know, I'm just wildly speculating here), and offer an academic plan that involves lots of coloring books. Our coaches are said to be optimistic about getting Darius and want him badly, but I'm not as confident in our chances.
WR Mike Davis is coming in for a visit and that's good news. Or is he? The LSU sites say no. In fact, they contend that he hasn't even been in contact with Texas. Are they the last ones to know? We'll find out soon enough. I believe that he'll end up a Longhorn if he makes it in this weekend.
LB Jordan Hicks is getting a visit from Mack Brown on Wednesday before he trips to Florida this weekend. This is good. Hicks is a big-time difference maker and a Texas type of kid cut from the Acho/Aaron Williams mold. Even better news: the final players in his recruitment are Texas, Ohio State, and Florida. Florida is the team that concerns me the most and the departure of DC Charlie Strong to Louisville is a big break for us. Guess who coaches LBs for Florida? Charlie Strong. I don't believe Strong was his primary recruiter, but that's a blow nonetheless. Ohio State is the local favorite and they've made Hicks a huge priority, but the Hicks family doesn't necessarily love the Midwest.
DE Jackson Jeffcoat has a pretty straightforward situation, IMO. If there are no changes in his Dad's employment status or he goes to a place that's a geographically neutral for us, he's a Longhorn. If his Dad gets a NFL/college job at or near a place of interest to Jackson, we're in trouble. Kevin Sumlin's status also plays a role. If he were to land a job at a respectable place like Kansas, he might be able to persuade Jeffcoat senior to come and promise junior a starting gig as a freshman in a legitimate football conference. The events that will lead to Jeffcoat's ultimate decision are out of our hands.
LB Corey Nelson is mulling over reopening his recruitment and it's causing some heartburn in the Aggie community since he's the bell cow of their recruiting class. Nelson is starting to realize that committing to A&M means that he's actually going to have to play there. Maybe Shreveport doesn't quite have the glamour of Pasadena. I don't think anything actually comes of this for the Longhorns, but I suspect we won't be shy about muddying the waters in his decision making and pushing him away from College Station.
DT Eric Humphrey is a late bloomer recently on our radar. Unfortunately, we're a little late. His official visit dance card is already full and we've got to convince him to drop a suitor in order to make it work. I'm sure he will if we push enough. I have no problem taking another DT recruit since this is a position where a quality two deep can play heavy snaps and "failed" DTs often make better OL than highly recruited OL do.
Thoughts?
How do we close out?
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Shreveport doesn’t even have the glamor of Pasadena, Texas.
Can you please tell me how many commitments and how many open scholarships we have? I’m not paying Ketchum to blow smoke up my ass anymore.
by Woody Bombay on Dec 8, 2009 11:36 PM CST reply actions
Scuttlebutt is that we lead pretty big for Hicks at this point. Davis is a silent. And Jeffcoat is ours to lose unless, as you say, his dad gets a gig.
I’ll say we close with these three and we’ll know about White Saturday morning. If he makes the visit, he goes elsewhere. If he doesn’t, it was just a round a bout way to tell ou to go fuck themselves.
As for Nelson, I think he’s grasping at straws at the thought of actually playing at ATM. With every passing day the shit is getting real.
by Trips Right on Dec 8, 2009 11:37 PM CST reply actions
Woody-
There’s talk we could make room for 6-7 more recruits if the chips fell that way.
I’m with Trips though thinking we end up with Hicks, Jeffcoat, Davis, and White if what his girfriend said is true
She said something about expecting to see him in Austin or somesuch
by UT wildcatter on Dec 8, 2009 11:44 PM CST reply actions
I liked the reports coming out of Austin about Darius White’s visit. I also like that he stayed with Christian Scott. They seem like similar guys and I think Scott hosting does good things for White’s comfort level here. A bunch of people are still in the pessimist camp on this one but I think a lot of things are pointing in the right direction for us. Plus, if we get him, we leave OU with his mediocre coattail-riding cousin.
Hicks’ recruitment reminds me a lot of Kennard’s from last year: bunches of positive praise put out for all teams involved, we make the final cut, we feel good about our chances going into his recruitment, potential leader loses big-time defensive coach near the end of the recruitment. It’s going to be fun playing revisionist historian once his recruitment is wrapped up.
I’m excited about the prospect of Davis committing because “reliable” receivers seem to pan out for us better than athletic freaks.
by whoopspat on Dec 8, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions
Woody -
We have 20 commitments right now.
I think we’ll take as many that will say yes from the group above.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 8, 2009 11:47 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, re: Hicks, a poster on other longhorn interwebs with self professed solid ties to the tOSU program is saying that Florida was already in third, and Strong to Louisville delivers the death blow, resulting in a two horse race with Texas holding the lead.
by ACE on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 PM CST reply actions
Hicks, Jeffcoat and White. An unbelievably sweet finish.
Hicks: From what I’ve gathered, Texas was leading for Hicks even before Strong left Florida. Muschamp is going to reel this one in.
Jeffocoat: Drinking the Scipio kool-aid here.
White: OSU may be offering plentiful playing time, coloring books, and handouts, but that strategy certainly hasn’t helped them land very many recruits that Texas has offered in the past. And the recruiting momentum for the program is extremely high right now.
by bigdukesix on Dec 8, 2009 11:50 PM CST reply actions
whoopspat -
I would submit that Mike Davis is an athletic freak, but he’s just not a freak in the ways that are easily discernible on a quick view of tape. However, I get your point. He’s very comparable to Jordan Shipley.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 8, 2009 11:51 PM CST reply actions
My first comment is pretty redundant in light of what others have posted above, but there were no other comments when I started typing it. I’m slow.
by bigdukesix on Dec 8, 2009 11:52 PM CST reply actions
bigduke -
You raise a good point. GundyBall doesn’t exactly reek of win. However, we usually don’t have our elite recruits visiting OSU at all, do we?
by Scipio Tex on Dec 8, 2009 11:53 PM CST reply actions
Kenny Stills (#37 WR on ESPN) and Tony Jefferson (#1 athlete, DB by trade, #10 on ESPN 150) are both from Cali and reportedly have become good friends and are announcing their commitment together on Dec. 18th (I think. Might be the 11th). Stills final two is down to OU and Florida. Jefferson is down to USC and OU. Both players seemed to love their visit, and both are excited about the immediate openings at their positions. If they really are going to announce together, OU fans seem to think that bodes well for the Sooners.
This may also explain why longtime OU safety commit Eddrick Loften is now looking around. If OU has gotten a commitment from Tony Jefferson (projected to play Loften’s S position), Loften would have every reason to head on.
Mods on the OU pay boards are stating that White has told them the Oklahoma State story is incorrect and that he’s visiting OU. On the one hand, I don’t trust mods on an OU board, or any board for that matter. On the other hand, I know for a fact ESPN is as full of shit as anyone out there. This is the same organization that reported Stoops to Notre Dame was all but done. This is also the same organization that has every shill spouting bile and ignorance about UT not deserving to go to the BCS title game. Obviously, I’m torn. It also stands to reason that White could actually visit both on the same weekend if that’s the only weekend his mom has available.
OU had four main targets at WR for 2010 (Prater, White, Stills, and Justin McCay) and wanted to get at least two. McCay is a solid commitment. Prater is USC bound. White and Stills are up in the air. I’ve believed from the beginning that we won’t get more than two. If we get Stills, I think Darius White will wear orange in the Big 12. Whether that’s burnt orange or halloween orange, I’m not sure. Texas just doesn’t have a great track record of giving extensive playing time to deserving true freshmen on offense. Boom obviously knows better.
by NateHeupel on Dec 9, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions
If we end up with 25 or 26 players does anyone have any idea who might transfer after this season? I can think of a couple of WR’s, one DB, a couple of RB’s, and a couple of DT’s.
I think we offer Humphrey and get him. I think we get Davis and Jeffcoat with White as the real X factor. Will Gundy offer Dominique Sanders and the Dunbar trio head to Stillwater? I’m hopeful of Hicks. If he commits before the weekend, Corey Nelson will be at A&M or possibly look at Arky.
It’s been rumored that OU has told Loften to look around which he is doing. Have they seen the handwriting on the wall with White and told Favors to do the same?
by Groundhog Day on Dec 9, 2009 12:08 AM CST reply actions
ou had 4 main targets after being rejected by 10 others over the spring and summer but I get your point.
ESPN’s source is as solid as it gets, Gerry would only report it if he is told by the player or his coach. As always recruiting is a moving target and it changes day to day with some 18 yrolds.
On the UT front I want Davis over White, I love what the kid brings to the table so I hope the smoke leads to fire. If Will gets the 2/3 on his board that would be as good as we have done on defense.
by MerHorn on Dec 9, 2009 12:14 AM CST reply actions
Nate –
Thanks for the OU updates. You guys are doing a nice job of cherry picking some elite talent in California – it irritates me because I know how easy it would be for us to do the same.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 12:26 AM CST reply actions
Nate,
On a different note, I couldn’t agree with you more regarding ESPN. The networks are becoming far too powerful and are more biased than they have ever been. I used to love watching the SEC on CBS, but the pregame bias and the game announcing has made it more unwatchable than a Dick Vitale announced basketball game.
Even though TCU had the weakest strenght of schedule among Cincy, Texas, and themselves they have been pimping TCU to play Bama. This has been done for their own selfish agendas whether it be to push for a playoff, change the BCS, or for their affiliation with the SEC. I would like to ask any of those hacks that if they were forced to put their life savings on the line and choose a winner between TCU and Texas straight up who would they choose.
by Groundhog Day on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 AM CST reply actions
So in 2 years our front 7 could potentially look like:
Okafor, Randall, Bible, Jeffcoat [backed by Wilson, Cotton, Dorsey, Daniels]
E.Acho, Robinson, Hicks [backed by Tariq Allen, Nkwopara, Benson, Jackson]
(or something like that, I don’t really know about MLB)
All led by Coach Boom. Dang…
by hookem625 on Dec 9, 2009 1:39 AM CST reply actions
“ESPN’s source is as solid as it gets…”
I couldn’t stop laughing once I read this.
“ou had 4 main targets after being rejected by 10 others over the spring and summer but I get your point.”
The only other offers we had out there that were guys high on Norvell’s wish list that OU has whiffed on were Mike Davis and Kyle Prater. Marcus Lucas is another one Norvell covets, but the jury is still out as to whether or not we can get him out of Missouri.
Scip,
Why in God’s name would you want to do something stupid like that? Win the BCS title, lock down Texas, and make OU do the leg work to pick up guys to fill void that Texas talent would normally fill. It’s very simple. You’ll lose a blue-chip here or there, but you’ll otherwise end up with years like this year where you’re getting damn near everyone you want. Sure, late bloomers like Humphrey will probably slip to OU or some such, but you’ve already got two of the 5 best DT recruits in the country locked up.
Groundhog,
The problem as far as I’m concerned is that most of these assholes went to the Howard Stern school of journalism. Piss people off and say things that are perceived as against the mainstream, and make money/fame. Logic and analysis are optional. Big tits preferred. (Hello, Erin Andrews.)
by NateHeupel on Dec 9, 2009 1:50 AM CST reply actions
Ketchum says we have three to four double secret silent commits and we should keep tuning in to see what is up? Do you think it’s the same guys?
by raoulduke on Dec 9, 2009 2:17 AM CST reply actions
raoulduke,
Send $9.95 to my PayPal account and I’ll tell you.
by CrazyJoeDavola on Dec 9, 2009 2:20 AM CST reply actions
Mystery recruits and double secret silent commits make the interweb go round in Ketch’s world
by UT wildcatter on Dec 9, 2009 2:33 AM CST reply actions
Nate,
Gerry Hamilton is the guy reporting on ESPN. He used to work for the Texas site on the Scout network. If he says that White’s coach told him he is going to OSU this weekend, then White’s coach definitely told him that.
Now whether the kid does that or not is up in the air. It wouldn’t be the first time a recruit told his high school coach one thing and changed his mind and did another.
by The General on Dec 9, 2009 4:46 AM CST reply actions
OU out. OSU in. That is the scoop. (Whether it is true or not is up in the air).
by Ecurbmanchild on Dec 9, 2009 7:22 AM CST reply actions
Do you guys know if Texas will have enough room to take Trips’ neighbor?
by dedfischer on Dec 9, 2009 7:33 AM CST reply actions
One thing I thought I had read is that Jeffcoat was going to enroll in January, which if true would mean he would have to pick a school in like a week. Did I just imagine that or have his plans changed? Or will he be announcing shortly?
by bigdukesix on Dec 9, 2009 8:13 AM CST reply actions
ded, don’t sleep on a baller from Lovelady.
That typed, your comment made me shoot coffee through the old nariz.
by Trips Right on Dec 9, 2009 8:39 AM CST reply actions
I don’t want Humphrey. We’ve two dt’s from last year and three this year to go a long with Randall. At one point it looked like we lost our buzz and numbers wouldn’t be an issue. It’s looking like that has changed with the plot twists with White and Davis.
I like our chances with Jeffcoat as things are currently. Things couldn’t have worked out better with USC and OU looking like shit this year. Now let’s hope UH’s recent loss to ECU has made him lose some of his luster, atleast for a year.
I’ve got a bad feeling about Hicks. He’s been spending more time in Florida lately than Jimmy Buffet. Even with Strong leaving (why did he jump to Louisville? Was he in debt?) I’d have faith in Meyer finding a more than capable replacement. It will hurt if we don’t land Hicks. We need three lb’s this year. Nkwopara won’t ever see the field. Tariq isn’t suited for the Big 12. One person that hookem625 didn’t mention was Ryan Roberson. He might have a future.
Corey Nelson ain’t happening. Anyone know why he slipped so drastically on Rivals? I thought he was interested in the inferior ut.
Looks to be a promising December through signing day, unlike the recent past. No way we get shut out.
Oh yeah, what’s more worthless than rumors of a silent commit? That reminds me of elementary school. “I know someone who likes you….but I can’t say.”
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 8:45 AM CST reply actions
Hopefully Sumlin lost his buzz and stays put is how the last sentence in the second paragraph should have read.
Another year without a top flight running back to ruin. I can’t help but think Shead ends up at lb. He looks too stiff to be a rb.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 8:51 AM CST reply actions
Has anybody seen film on Eddrick Loften? I’ve heard him described as the hardest hitter in the state. He’s got prototypical size, we lost out on Ahmad Dixon, and Earl is almost assuredly gone after next year, if he doesn’t change his mind on leaving this year. Next years crop at safety isn’t as impressive as the last two. Maybe we should make a move.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 8:56 AM CST reply actions
magnus,
I’m not prepared to write off two linebackers Muschamp hand picked after their first semester in college. You shouldn’t either.
by HenryJames on Dec 9, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions
Mack’s strict in-state recruiting strategy is an age-old debate among Horn fans.
Living in the midwest (BIG 10 country), relatives who watch Texas games with me often say, “are all your players from the state of Texas!!?”. I don’t think people living in Texas appreciate how rare it is for a college team to have 99.9% of their players from the same state. Without looking at A&M’s roster, I assume they are the same. But pretty much every other team in D1 football casts a wider net and at least brings in border state players.
So I guess the question is, do we need OOS recruits or is Mack’s strategy the key element to his success?
by mockingbird on Dec 9, 2009 9:11 AM CST reply actions
Hey, well let me know. We might want him as a slot receiver.
by dedfischer on Dec 9, 2009 9:11 AM CST reply actions
After HenryJames’ IRS scandal last year, he’s not prepared to write off anything.
Nice recap, Scipio. I also read into White’s decision to visit OSU as bad news. The Cowboy year end fund drive is kicking into full swing.
I think we end up with Hicks, Jeffcoat, Davis, and another random Mack Brown stocking stuffer.
by Vasherized on Dec 9, 2009 9:14 AM CST reply actions
We all wrote off Kheeston Randall and look what Boom did with him this year.
Jesus, I’m agreeing with HJ. Square your affairs, the apocalypse is near.
by BatesHorn on Dec 9, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions
I’m counting:
83 scholarships used now
13 seniors
That means 15 scholarships available.
I’m assuming that Norton redshirts this year and returns, Payne (redshirt junior) graduates, so that is a wash. Not sure what to make of Irby. I sure hope the guy plays again and plays well, but I’m not optimistic. Will Jarvis Humphrey return? Call that a wash, too.
We’ve got 20 in the fold right now. It will be no surprise to see an attrition of 5 guys to make that happen. Happens everywhere, every year. Seven more would push the attrition to 12 which seems a little high. It would be hard to turn any of these guys down, though.
I’ll say we get Hicks, Jeffcoat, and White.
by Fritz on Dec 9, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions
The only reason I have written off Allen and Nkwopara are because of their size issues. Admittedly it’s too soon but as Clipper said, anything that I can’t categorize and dismiss immediately makes me uncomfortable. Tariq is a slower Jared Norton and Nkwopara is just plain small. If Shaun Lewis was too small for the UT coaches then what is he?
Don’t get me wrong, I hope they become contributors, but I don’t see it.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 9:36 AM CST reply actions
Bates, I don’t know of anyone that wrote of Kheeston, if anything we just thought it might be too soon for him to be solid.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 9:44 AM CST reply actions
I love the optimism, but traditionally, the kids who wait the longest to commit do not end up at Texas.
by JUICE on Dec 9, 2009 9:46 AM CST reply actions
magnus,
I second what HJ said. Muschamp is an outstanding judge and developer of LB talent. If Muschamp thinks a guy can ball, he can ball.
Re: Eddrick Loften; If OU really has landed Tony Jefferson, and that would seem to be the case if they’re telling Loften to look around, then UT would be absolutely foolish to not go after Loften with both guns blazing. The guy brings the lumber on every play.
thegeneral,
Thanks for the clarification. Don’t get me wrong, Hamilton may be spot on here, and I have no reason to doubt your reliance on him. Just understand that affiliation with the WWL automatically reduces credibility and integrity as a matter of principle. As I said, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if White decided to make OSU his official visit and just visit OU on the way home.
by NateHeupel on Dec 9, 2009 9:48 AM CST reply actions
I may be off here, but if I were a stud receiver I’d probably figure my odds of solid playing time at UT were pretty damn good considering the loss of Shipley and the suckitude of Kirkendoll.
by ghostofagroundgame on Dec 9, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions
Wait a minute. Are we not recruiting Seastrunk any more?
by mitch cumsteen on Dec 9, 2009 10:05 AM CST reply actions
bigdukesix – “One thing I thought I had read is that Jeffcoat was going to enroll in January, which if true would mean he would have to pick a school in like a week.”
The last thing I heard on Jeffcoat was that he is a serious baller for Plano West, so I wouldn’t expect him to enroll early..
by Harsh on Dec 9, 2009 10:10 AM CST reply actions
Ssshhhh, Seastrunk is one of the silents.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions
I’m just fine without Corey Nelson.
I’m feeling pretty good about Hicks and Jeffcoat.
I’m not sure why we are recruiting so many WR’s, but either of the two would be fine. It won’t make a shit of difference because when Shipley part 2 arrives, none of the others will be playing.
by Capt. Insano on Dec 9, 2009 10:29 AM CST reply actions
Based on roster numbers, starting in 2011 it looks like UT will be going with a 6 wide, 4 OL set in an attempt to get their best players on the field.
Seriously, look at the OL numbers for 2011. Light in numbers (unless they take 4+ next year) and downright scary in terms of players that will have been in the program 3 years. It’s just about going to be a given that some 2011 OL recruits will have to play as true freshman.
If any of the current players or commits don’t pan out, or if there is any attrition, it could be a huge deal. Alot is riding on the 2009 OL class.
by Horncasting on Dec 9, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions
I’m not concerned about White if we get Davis, Davis would have a bigger impact if our offense remains the same. I just have doubts we get a DISD kid who our coaches passed over at JR day eventhough he is the best WR in the state…IMO
by MerHorn on Dec 9, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions
Horncasting, I have similar concerns. Our tackles from last years class have to be good. This year we passed on the best tackles other than making a run at Matthews in order to concentrate on interior lineman. Next years class looks to be strong at OT so maybe we can make up some ground. We’ll get Drango for sure and Doyle if we offer him. Hopefully we have a shot with Westerman, but probably not.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 AM CST reply actions
I wouldn’t worry about White visiting OSU. If he was about money he’d show interest in LSU and the rest of the SEC’s. Who have we ever lost to OSU? We’ve been all over this kid as long as can be. It will end with a quote similar to this…..“UT was my first love, I just had to check out all of my options. It was a long road, but I’m happy to be a ’Horn.”
If we get Davis, White, Jeffcoat, and Hicks…..it’s the best class ever. Best wr class in the nation. Best dl class in the nation, by far, and one of the best lb classes in the nation, if not the best.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions
I don’t feel great about White. The longer it goes with nothing new really developing, the better for us, I guess. It really depends on whether they end up deciding to play it straight or not, and that has been the internal battle for them all along.
Nobody really likes the fact that Hicks is spending extra time in Florida. I remain optimistic, but that doesn’t mean it’s realistic.
Scipio mirrors my thoughts on Sumlin/Jeffcoat.
I view Mike Davis as done if he can get to town.
Florida thinks they absolutely have Stills, although from reading their boards for years, they’re as arrogant as we are and as delusional as OU fans are, so it’s a difficult cocktail to consume in terms of whether or not they should think they have him.
Maybe we look at Lofton, but I doubt it. Cobbs is likely to be a safety. Further, the safety from Dulles in Sugar Land is a complete bad ass and he’s going to commit at a Texas Junior Day. Those are both on top of what we already have in place or coming in there.
I can’t figure the Humphrey thing out. My hope is that they like him as a spin down to OL.
I think worrying about the numbers is a fun exercise, but utterly pointless beyond entertainment value. They will figure it all out and we’ve never once had an issue. There will be attrition of the currently rostered players by at least 4-5 and as many as 7-8 over the next 8 months. Injury, transgressions, grades, and depth charts always work against some of any roster.
by CloseToJumping on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM CST reply actions
The last thing I heard on Jeffcoat was that he is a serious baller for Plano West, so I wouldn’t expect him to enroll early..
I probably made it up then.
by bigdukesix on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM CST reply actions
CTJ, everyone is getting in on Humphrey. I think he’s right up there with Dorsey at the top of this DT class with regards to athleticism. That Barnett kid OSU has committed is probably the best I’ve seen this year, or at least the guy that has the best chance to play immediately.
by dedfischer on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST reply actions
I have no problem taking Humphrey and I prefer converted DTs on my OL to lifetime OL who have never done anything athletic in their lives. Cotton and Derek Johnson strike me as very good OL candidates IMO if we can get them a real OL coach and legitimate schemes to play in.
Nate – I like cherry-picking California because talent output in Texas is never constant across position. We’ve had big dry spells at key positions several times over the last ten years. And going to California and getting 4 star types is incredibly easy compared to SEC country. There are only three legit D-1 programs in Cal and only one of them has anything like a real following. Add in the cultural similarities of a place like Austin and UT and it’s fish in a barrel should we choose to do it. 85-90% of the team should always be Texans.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions
ded -
All I know is that he is no Jackson Richards.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions
I’d say Stanford with Harbaugh, makes it four legits, especially the way he’s recruiting.
We must go oos more. If it’s a down year for a particular position we end up with a deficiency in that class. Like last years lb class, whether you like our two or not. Our te problems have been documented. Sometimes it’s just good to get the name out there. Say we landed Kennard last year, that would only help us with the Westeman kid.
For the guy wondering about Aggies make-up. They love Louisiana and are currently hoping that a couple of their recruits don’t get plucked by LSU.
I have no idea why we aren’t going harder after Austin Seferian-Jackson, the te from Gig Harbor, Wa. He loved it here and it’s been written he might be the number one te in the nation next year.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 12:17 PM CST reply actions
“I have no idea why we aren’t going harder after Austin Seferian-Jackson”
It would require effort…
by Lester Burnham on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply actions
magnus -
Stanford operates in a different pool of athletes than we do 75% of the time. And he’s more interested in coming to Texas than in dominating his backyard.
The Washington kid has to recruit himself here. That’s the bottom line. If he writes and calls our coaches, if he comes to summer camp, we will deign to “recruit” him.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions
Jackson Richards can only be described in justice as a working man’s Ryan Haliburton. You probably don’t even know who that guy is, but come next September you WILL!!!
by dedfischer on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM CST reply actions
“they’re as arrogant as we are…”
Not a chance in hell this is true, mudhole.
“…and as delusional as OU fans are”
This is unpossible.
by NateHeupel on Dec 9, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions
Scip—-good call on the latest DT. You just can’t have enough talented linemen—-memory reminds me that Studdard (DL) and Sendlien (MLB) made decent enough OL to now start in the show. One of three DT commits hasn’t had near the senior year that his junior year promised—-all trappers don’t wear fur hats.
Jeffcoat and Hicks are special. They are difference makers for any program and immediately fit into the two deep. Both the WR’s have dazzling talent but unless they catch the ball like Jordan Ship we will be able to find others like them next year. I’m just surprised we don’t have two or three TE’s on this Christmas list considering how many we usually sign to fill that important position—-I guess since we are now borrowing from the WR dogpile we can’t skip this year.
by Texasfootball on Dec 9, 2009 12:32 PM CST reply actions
Texasfootball -
Good to hear from you, sir.
Lyle Sendlein was a DT coming in that we moved over to offense. Austin was a LB we moved to DL.
What DT has underperformed? It ain’t Dorsey, so is it Cotton or Bible?
I might beg to differ on Mike Davis. Playoffs against DeSoto. Used our current commit Adrian White to the tune of 7 catches for 263 yards. In the second half, they put him in at safety and he picks two balls.
Baller.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 12:48 PM CST reply actions
Fritz:
My scholarship count is 85; this includes three one-year walkons who are seniors. Our senior class is 16 (counting Norton as a junior). With out 20 commits, we project to be 4 over. If 3-4 more players accept accept our offers (which ain’t happening, IMO), we’re 7-8 over.
Who goes? Irby and TE Ian Harris to injured, keep the benefits, won’t play again, don’t count against the 85 limit . . . Payne. Dravannti Johnson. Hicks. Hills or McGee. Russell Carter. Wells. At least one of the 21 true freshmen (academics, homesickness, whatever). That’s where the attrition comes from.
Scipio:
Great stuff. Thoughtful. Precise. I’ll take the lonely position in the minority and say we get 1 player from your list. I’d choose Hicks but wouldn’t turn down Jeffcoat. We’re bad closers. Sorry. We’re terrible closers. Prove me wrong, Mack, Will, Major, Somebody on the staff.
by edsp on Dec 9, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply actions
edsp –
We are historically poor closers, but Muschamp and Applewhite are guys that are trying to break some previous bad habits by punching through the bell. That’s energizing Mack. Brown doesn’t get on airplanes to Ohio very often. Our season is also relaying a closing message of its own while OU has had a tough year, A&M is A&M, LSU has lost 8 in the last two, and USC’s shine has lost a little luster.
I say we grab 2-3 of the above.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions
so is it Cotton or Bible.
Bible. He’s put on bad weight.
by HenryJames on Dec 9, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply actions
Well, nevermind then. He dropped his tranny somewhere along the way too.
by dedfischer on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 PM CST reply actions
Who have we ever lost to OSU?
I’ll give you a hint, he’s not a man, and he is not yet 40.
by Mike G on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM CST reply actions
Mad Dog sees his recently added bad weight, and vows to up the ante once Bible gets on campus. He’ll be 400 lbs. within two years.
by nordberg on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM CST reply actions
Eric Humphrey has moved into the rivals top 250 at number 196. The write up states..
“Humphrey (6-4/273) is a huge, athletic player who just came onto the scene. He projects as a strong side defensive end or a defensive tackle at the next level, which is the rarest kind of athlete to find. It is really hard to find guys this big who can run and make plays. "
by pevodg on Dec 9, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions
He’s an interior DL all the way. And he’s an obvious take.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM CST reply actions
That news about Bible sucks. Watching his jr film, I saw a very Roy Miller-like gap shooter. Just watched his limited sr film, and even in the highlights he looks much less active. Damn, lets hope somehow he drops some lbs when he gets here. Oh yeah…
by Bighornfan32 on Dec 9, 2009 4:27 PM CST reply actions
With Todd Wright, anything is possible. Ummm, wait a second…
by Trips Right on Dec 9, 2009 4:31 PM CST reply actions
I have a hard time getting too concerned about a DT gaining weight before getting on campus. We generally do a good job with the DTs all the way around and I don’t expect us to start screwing that up with someone like Bible. He’s got all the talent in the world.
by CloseToJumping on Dec 9, 2009 4:43 PM CST reply actions
“I’m not paying Ketchum to blow smoke up my ass anymore.”
The first step is admitting you have a problem, Woody. Sounds like you’re well beyond that.
I’ll be at the banquet on Friday. If I learn anything while I’m there, I’ll pass it along free of charge.
by Blueshorn on Dec 9, 2009 4:47 PM CST reply actions
CTJ, I hear you, except we need him to play next year. It would be nice if he were in shape when he gets to campus.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 4:53 PM CST reply actions
I wish one of you was sitting there when Trips’ neighbor told me he picked Sam Houston State over Texas because at the time, it was a better football program. I think he was serious.
by dedfischer on Dec 9, 2009 5:12 PM CST reply actions
He was definitely serious. Never trust a guy named Kevin.
by Vasherized on Dec 9, 2009 7:46 PM CST reply actions
Looks like the LSU sites got played and Mike Davis is visiting Texas.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 9, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions
Cooper laugh.
Oh man, Cooper is going to love LA. In fact, I bet he gets there, oh, say, tomorrow. And writes about his time there once a week until January 7th. Wouldn’t you agree, Scipio?
by Nordberg on Dec 9, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions
Lot’s of time consuming networking and hobnobbing. Plus he’s got the Trans-Pacific-Underwater-Railroad ribbon cutting to attend in Santa Barbara. Also, with the proximity to Vegas he might go kick it with Padraig Harrington at the Bellagio. Oh to Clipper.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 9, 2009 9:00 PM CST reply actions
Sumlin will not go to KU. Perkins will not hire another branch of the Stoops coaching tree. Sumlin is very similar to Mangino anyway… huge offense – no defense. If you replaced Sumlin with Mangino at Houston I don’t see a drop, nor do I see a gain for KU in bringing in Sumlin. Gill will get the KU job. He’s got roots, ties to Texas and is black. KU would be lauded for hiring the only minority coach in the Big 12 and the national media would love it. <— This is very important to Perkins. The coach at Stanford does not make them legit. Being successful at Stanford makes him legit ( just ask Ty)
by hobbeshorn on Dec 9, 2009 10:53 PM CST reply actions
Cooper Clipper can mount my weimaraner. Oops don’t have one. I’d imagine Clipper may have that yuppie dog bred anyway at one of his estates, ranches, or estancias in Uruguay or Argentina
I do have a bitch Irish Setter that was drug underneath a gate last Friday after Thanksgiving by “rescue” dogs and almost killed. I don’t think that will work for Clipper since she’s shaved and has around 150 staples and sutures in her neck and her poor paw has about 15 stitches in it were they bite her and then pulled her under.
Sorry, had to get that out, cathartic
anyway she’s in no shape for a mounting by a Cooper. he should try my Jack Russell terrorist or the stupid chocolate lab
by UT wildcatter on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions
We’re hiring you as our in-house Veterinarian.
by Vasherized on Dec 10, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions
If you know the individual then I apologize – but implying that White would be interested in coloring books rather than an education is a fairly arrogant remark.
by realmccoy on Dec 11, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions
The insult was not to the player, but to the school.
by ghostofagroundgame on Dec 11, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions
I think we land Davis this week. He’s coming in on the best non-game weekend of the year.
Hopefully that doesn’t hurt us with Young Darius.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 11, 2009 11:14 AM CST reply actions
LA is where synergy comes from. Its manufactured there in bales and exported to opulent meeting rooms in Dallas, Atlanta, New York and diverse other world markets.
by Live Bait on Dec 11, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions
Inside Texas reports that Mike Davis is in Austin tonight, lets hope he decides to be a horn this weekend.
by MerHorn on Dec 11, 2009 6:15 PM CST reply actions
Sweet. I just read it off orangebloods from a poster using another site for his info. Guess Inside Texas is right. Sweet
by UT wildcatter on Dec 11, 2009 6:32 PM CST reply actions
He’ll be a Horn. As I wrote two days ago, the LSU sites got played in this.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 11, 2009 8:20 PM CST reply actions
I attended the banquet tonight. While I did not personally see Davis, my understanding is that he was in the house and is expected to commit.
In other news, the awards didn’t seem quite as contrived as in years past. Most of them went to seniors, and while there were a few shared awards, it didn’t seem like there was an effort to give participation awards to every player at every position.
McCoy, Shipley, Kindle, and Houston were voted Captains by the team. They also carried off most of the important hardware. Of course, Colt was in absentia. Mack gave some good remarks and there was a definite tone that they relish the underdog role and will exploit being dissed by the media. He said the last second win was all part of the plan to help ABC’s ratings.
The floor of the Erwin Center was packed. The highlight video was cool, culminating of course with Hunter’s kick to beat Corn.
by blueshorn on Dec 11, 2009 10:03 PM CST reply actions
Blues, thanks for the update.
Davis will be huge for us. He’s the type that the TV dummies will wax poetic, “he’s just a wide recievers reciever.” Or something generic. He’ll get open, make big plays when they’re there, and he’ll be reliable. If we land Darius, this haul is almost as good as the BJ, Roy, Sloan class, with the chance to actually be better.
I ran into Sloan at Buffalo Wild Wings a couple years ago. I didn’t jock him or anything, just gave him a nod, and said, “what up dude?” Fool looked at me like I lost my mind. Fuck him, his chicks were ugly as hell, he was on the Texans practice squad ($70,000 a year holla!!) and he was wearing those old black man wicker sandals like he was going to play bones and listen to Johnny Taylor in the backyard. Bitch.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 12, 2009 9:07 AM CST reply actions
Magnus: We had zero accountability in the locker room when those guys were here and be thankful that was your one and only interaction with any of them although out of the 3 BJ is the one that has come back down to earth the most.
I had one of the silliest arguments before the Fiesta last year because I stated I would rather have Quan, Collins and Jordan over the big 3. It pisses me off when folks only look for vertical/40 times.
by MerHorn on Dec 12, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions
MerHorn,
I agree, I’m purely going from a recruiting aspect here. All we know of them at this point is their high school reputation. You have no arguments with me on taking Quan, Ship, and Collins/Malc over the big 3. The supposed big 3 never lived up to their hype. Short arming balls, dropping balls, giving up on plays and not wanting to block. Fuckem, give me Hines Ward.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 12, 2009 9:47 AM CST reply actions
I’m with you guys on Quan, Shipley, Collins/Williams over the big three. Those guys were/are incredible. Glue like hands, great routes, play with passion, and the ability to lay the wood. Don’t forget that Tony Jeffrey was with the big 3.
Because of the talent that will be on campus next year along with Greg Timmons already on campus and staring down another Shipley in 2011, I think we should burn the shirt for Collins if he is eligible to play in January. He gives us a better shot to win it all. If given the choice, what would you do? Play in the NC or get an extra year with no guarantee of anything.
by Groundhog Day on Dec 12, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions
As a selfish Texas fan it would be nice to burn the shirt. It just wouldn’t be the ethical fair thing to him.
Besides, look how long it takes UT to get their players on the field. Timmons might not play for two more years because of being “inconsistent.” Buckner will also be a bigger part next year once Grant and Matthews hit the ground running.
by magnusbleuveigner on Dec 12, 2009 11:28 AM CST reply actions
Stoops pulled the shirt off a kicker just to play against USC in the Orange Bowl (yeah, I don’t think the kicker was going to make or break it for OU that year) — either way, it was a kid I knew in highschool and I thought it was a pretty shitty move to pull from the player’s perspective. I don’t think it would be fair to Collins or the guys who have been playing all year.
by the comish on Dec 12, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions
There’s absolutely no point in burning Collins’ shirt after he hasn’t played in the season. Timing will be all off and, I’m sorry, he’s not a game changing player. That’s without even going into how obviously asshole-ish of an act that would be.
There is a big difference between “give me Shipley, Quan, and Collins over the Big 3” and “give me Sr. versions of Shipley and Quan with Malcolm Williams.” The former is not as good, the latter is better.
by Blake Borron on Dec 12, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions
You guys make good points, but if I’m Mack Brown, I leave that up to the young man. If he wants to play in the game I seriously consider granting him his wish because he would be a drastic upgrade from what we currently have. I would certainly not force him to play.
by Groundhog Day on Dec 12, 2009 5:27 PM CST reply actions
As a heads up, Jeffcoat scheduled an official visit to OU for January 22nd.
He will be canceling the visit on January 20th.
by NateHeupel on Dec 12, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions
Mer—
In fairness to BJ, I met him a few times and always found him a really solid guy.
No way we burn the redshirt. No point either.
Buckner is the odd man out next year. He shouldn’t have played much this year. He’s just too slow.
by ghostofagroundgame on Dec 12, 2009 6:04 PM CST reply actions
LSU fans seem to be very confident now that Davis will not commit this weekend per a recent update. What is going on?
by Groundhog Day on Dec 12, 2009 9:15 PM CST reply actions
Fuck, while we’re at it give me Sweed, Pittman, and B.Carter/RT over the big 3 too…
by Hornmatic on Dec 12, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions
“LSU fans seem to be very confident now that Davis will not commit this weekend per a recent update. What is going on?”
Dizz G is now an LSU fan.
by Hookah on Dec 13, 2009 12:32 AM CST reply actions
I hate how ‘hating’ on the Big 3 has become in vogue among Longhorn fans. Lame.
by Truck's Son on Dec 13, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions
Davis committed. Recruiting exploits are getting silly.
Is Texas on the brink of a pretty dominant run?
by the comish on Dec 13, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions
No one is “hating” on those guys. They were not team players while here and I prefer others over them, JMO.
Ghost: That’s what I meant by saying he is back to reality, he is solid,…but while he was on campus that group was not much fun to play with.
by MerHorn on Dec 13, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions
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