A Couple Updates on Texas Football
Rumor on the interwebs has it that Phillip Payne has left the program.
2010 offseason attrition has begun in earnest. I'm guessing a running back is the next to leave. On to recruiting news...
Well, sort of. It seems the NCAA thinks that the Head Coach Designate Title gives Texas some schools an unfair recruiting advantage. Nice focus fellas.
While playing ball with street agents, slush funds for players via auto dealerships, and outright paying players on the left coast has tacit approval, the NCAA Legislative Council thinks head coach designates should be treated exactly the same as head coaches with respect to in-home visits.
In other words, Coach Boom only gets to visit a recruit once in-home, while other coordinators around the country get as many as they'd like. Seems fair. After all, Texas is an outlaw program, right?
Here's the NCAA's explanation:
In recent years, some football programs have begun to publicly designate an individual on its current staff to become the institution's next head football coach when the current head football coach retires.
In addition to being an assistant coach, this individual has also been given the title of "head coach in waiting." As the Division I membership has supported legislative initiatives to restrict the off-campus recruiting activities of the head football coach, this designation has provided a distinct recruiting advantage.
This proposal would eliminate that advantage by mandating that the "head coach in waiting" adhere to all legislation applicable to the head football coach.
Yes. That seems fair. Way to drop the hammer on what is clearly a wide spread problem in college football.
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“As the Division I membership has supported legislative initiatives to restrict the off-campus recruiting activities of the head football coach, this designation has provided a distinct recruiting advantage.”
If it provides that much of an advantage, then everyone should do it. Of course, there are pro’s and con’s to naming a HCIW. This just unnecessarily adds to the con’s.
by nordberg on Feb 10, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions
So make the title unofficial. And then send the NCAA a shit sandwich. If they don’t hammer USC we should secede from the union.
by texastough on Feb 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST reply actions
I see this is being fairly easily treated.
Will – You are no longer the HCIW. You are now the Grand Poobah Of Recruiting Who May One Day Be Head Coach.
The NCAA is so fucking tired.
by Sailor Ripley on Feb 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST reply actions
What a fucking. So in order to remove a legal, yet possible advantage, the NCAA deems it prudent to place Texas, et al, at a clear disadvantage.
Yep, that sounds par for the course.
Morons.
by Sportsjesus on Feb 10, 2010 11:28 AM CST reply actions
Which programs besides Texas have done this anyway?
by CurrentLonghornStudent on Feb 10, 2010 11:29 AM CST reply actions
Nice to see the NCAA can move so quickly on something as stupid as this, yet still hasn’t gotten around to punishing USC for shit that happened 6 or 7 years ago with Reggie Bush..
by kevwun on Feb 10, 2010 11:30 AM CST reply actions
Maryland is the only other program that currently has a HCIW. The Big fucking East proposed this rule. Did Big Red Autos send a few cars to the Big East Conference offices?
by kevwun on Feb 10, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions
Texas and Maryland are the current D-1 schools with Head Coach Designates.
by srr50 on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 AM CST reply actions
One complaint from the Big East turns into NCAA-wide legislation? Hmmm …
by Vasherized on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 AM CST reply actions
Yeah, obviously this is bullshit, but it’s bullshit that we shouldn’t even sweat. Rewrite Muschamp’s contract immediately to officially remove the title. Keep everything else the same. Everyone knows he’s the next head coach as of right now, so the net effect is that the NCAA did jack shit as usual.
by Huckleberry on Feb 10, 2010 11:39 AM CST reply actions
Should just pay players, the NCAA recommended form of gaining an advantage over yoru competition.
by NY Horn on Feb 10, 2010 11:41 AM CST reply actions
Rewriting Muschamp’s contract is easy, but we’re typically pretty faggoty when it comes to NCAA rules. Shit, we’ve probably already self-reported ourselves.
by HenryJames on Feb 10, 2010 11:44 AM CST reply actions
It’s gonna be tough to replace Payne’s production.
by Max Fischer on Feb 10, 2010 11:55 AM CST reply actions
Well, calling Muschamp a Head-Coach-In-Waiting is MUCH worse than providing players with money/cars/pussy, so I can kinda see their point.
by j.r.69 on Feb 10, 2010 11:57 AM CST reply actions
I think this isn’t carved in stone yet, and is currently in a 60-day window for amendments. Our concerns have already been raised. From the NCAA DIVISION I PUBLICATION OF PROPOSED LEGISLATION:
06/29/09: Big East Conference: Submitted for consideration.
09/02/09: Football Issues Committee: Recommends approval.
The committee supports the proposal. The committee noted that such coaches, once publicly designated, are allowed to recruit in a manner representative of a head coach and speak on behalf of the football program as a head coach — not just an assistant coach.
09/22/09: Recruiting and Athletics Personnel Issues Cabinet: Recommends defeat.
The cabinet opposes the proposal. The cabinet noted that the designation of an assistant coach as the next head coach may occur several years prior to the departure of the current head coach, which may prohibit assistant coaches from participating in off-campus recruiting activities during the spring evaluation period for an extended period of time and may result in other unintended consequences.
by Magnificent Bastard on Feb 10, 2010 11:57 AM CST reply actions
Is the HCIW language actually in the contract? I’m curious since there could be a conflict with the state employee hiring rules – the ones that require X days of public notice of the opening so that schlubs like you and I can apply for Mack’s job. If not, then it’s an unofficial title that can be removed, and would seem to be rendered a moot issue.
Myles Brand is pathetic – seek relevance by identifying and solving real problems.
by Levander Williams on Feb 10, 2010 11:59 AM CST reply actions
Crap – well I guess i look like a dumbass now.
Who is carrying on for the NCAA now?
by Levander Williams on Feb 10, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions
Uh, yeah, didn’t know that either.
Interim exec is Jim Isch. Former Hawg.
by Magnificent Bastard on Feb 10, 2010 12:08 PM CST reply actions
Blake – Give us some scoop on this Hawg In Charge.
by Sailor Ripley on Feb 10, 2010 12:12 PM CST reply actions
“It’s gonna be tough to replace Payne’s production.”
In the words of the great Abe Lemmons, “son, you caught one more pass than a dead man”.
by Harsh on Feb 10, 2010 12:50 PM CST reply actions
I think this isn’t carved in stone yet, and is currently in a 60-day window for amendments. Our concerns have already been raised
It was adopted in January and went into effect immediately.
by srr50 on Feb 10, 2010 1:15 PM CST reply actions
“. . . this designation has provided a distinct recruiting advantage. "
Two things:
1) How does the designation itself provide a distinct recruiting advantage separate and apart from more traditional indications of long-term stability? And if you can articulate such an advantage (you can’t), how is such an advantage unfair (assuming, as we must, that only unfair advantages should be eliminated)?
2) Even making the wild assumptions that there is an advantage and that it is unfair, how is this different than other advantages (e.g., having a school in a vibrant city such as Austin vs. Ames or Lincoln or Lubbock) that would never be legislated against?
This is simply the latest in a long line of examples of the NCAA showing itself to incredibly incompetent with almost exclusively misplaced priorities.
by hornshornshorns on Feb 10, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions
1) You can sell continuity, which can be a comforting factor to a recruit. But there’s nothing that prevents other teams from designating their own HCIW and doing the same thing. .
2) Excellent point.
I can’t envision any valid argument that a team being proactive about their succession plan somehow constitutes an unfair advantage. But, when you’re dealing with an arbitrary and meddlesome institution like the NCAA, this is what passes for well-reasoned policy. It makes about as much sense as most of their decisions.
by Levander Williams on Feb 10, 2010 2:38 PM CST reply actions
Calipari will soon have forfeited 2 final fours, but the NCCA sees no problem in Kentucky hiring him. The same Kentucky whose basketball program’s history is as riddled with NCAA infractions as it is with championships. Yet the NCAA can make a ridiculous rule about HCIW in a couple of months.
by kevwun on Feb 10, 2010 3:21 PM CST reply actions
My guess is this is less about changing a growing problem in recruiting as it is trying a labyrinthine way of discouraging schools from adopting the process of HCIW in order to get around a currently unwritten college version of the Rooney Rule.
And if that’s a mysterious sentence, it’s because the NCAA is a mysterious organization. They’d have fit right in during Byzantium circa 700 a.d.
by CrazyJoeDavola66 on Feb 10, 2010 3:44 PM CST reply actions
I’m pretty sure a writer flat out made up that supposed Rooney Rule loophole. It’s a pretty ridiculous idea.
by kevwun on Feb 10, 2010 3:47 PM CST reply actions
let us be sure this is understood. If this rule takes effect or has taken effect and the HCIW does not get HCJob :is the reason for his failed promotion his failure to properly recruit . Sorry this whole legal episode is too much to handle.
by coffeedillon on Feb 10, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions
“It’s a pretty ridiculous idea.”
Which is why the NCAA is probably seriously considering it. It’s precisely the kind of ruling that the NCAA loves, which is 100% window dressing and 0% relevant to anything of import.
by CrazyJoeDavola66 on Feb 10, 2010 4:10 PM CST reply actions
While I loathe the NCAA I detest them just slightly more than the non-binding “Head Coach in Waiting” title. Heck while I’m at it you can throw in the “Assistant Head Coach” title too. In this case I’ll side with the NCAA to push teams to stop using bullshit titles. Is there a recruiting advantage? No advantage that can be supported by a rational argument.
I rue the day when schools start having Co-HC’s. Laugh now but it will happen someday.
by seattlehusker on Feb 10, 2010 5:25 PM CST reply actions
Other gaps in logic…..
As the SEC has supported legislative initiatives to restrict insider trader, being a subscriber to the Wall Street Journal has provided a distinct investing advantage. This proposal would eliminate that advantage by mandating that WSJ subscribers adhere to all legislation applicable to insider trading.
by Eskimohorn on Feb 10, 2010 8:24 PM CST reply actions
So what is the status of the Reggie Bush investigation? Is that still under investigation or has the case been closed? I have heard nothing about anything closely resembling sanctions or finality. Absolutely a worthless piece of shit organization.
by Noonan on Feb 11, 2010 1:11 AM CST reply actions
Future recruiting phone calls:
“Hey, Demosthenes, it’s me, Will. I’m coming through Duncanville next week, and would like to meet with you and your folks. Can y’all come by the field house?”
“No, I can’t come by your house. It’s that NCAA rule- since I’m going to be head coachat Texas soon, I am covered by the same rules as Mack.”
“Yeah, well Brent isn’t going to be a head coach, unless it’s at some crappy school. That’s why he can come by your house when he likes. If you want to play for him, commit to Arkansas State. I’m going to be the head coach at Texas for a very long time, and that’s why we have to meet at the field house.”
“Great. See you then.”
by TaylorTRoom on Feb 11, 2010 6:54 AM CST reply actions
Muschamp is now our “Defensive Coordinator With Benefits”
by Magnificent Bastard on Feb 11, 2010 9:40 AM CST reply actions
Gene Chizik is Head Coach Who Gets You Paid.
by Sailor Ripley on Feb 11, 2010 10:17 AM CST reply actions
Why not go the other way.
Mack Brown is now the Associate Coach in Charge of Offense Defense and Special Teams Administration and Coordination, and Muschamp becomes Vice President of Football Operations, and Associate Administrator of Coordination in Waiting.
Let em both go to everyones house as much as they want until the next rule committee session.
THAT would be subverting the spirit of the rule, naming a HCIW is not.
by Boddicker Is Clutch on Feb 11, 2010 3:05 PM CST reply actions
We must be very careful to adhere to this new rule, lest the NCAA punish us ever so severely. They are harsh overlords, and we must be mindful of their mandates and stipulations.
by MaduroUTMB on Feb 11, 2010 5:22 PM CST reply actions

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