Todd McShay: licensed jackanape
Football:
All the talk is about Texas potentially moving to the Big 10 as a part of a plan to create a super-conference. If this happened and Notre Dame was left out we would all have to laugh right? This doesn't actually seem particularly likely but the creation of super-conferences where the best teams would actually play each other can only help the College Football product.
Greg Davis has an excellent excuse for a lackluster rushing performance against UCF early in 2009. They were cheating to get those DL that were able to stonewall the Texas interior OL on that near-safety. Now they have learned a valuable lesson, cheating is for big-time programs that can generate revenue.
Ivan Maisel was entrusted with the task of picking spring breakout players for the Big 12 over at ESPN and he has responded in typically lazy fashion. Guess who he thinks might be better next year for Texas? Garret Gilbert, the guy who was a backup and near-hero in the national championship game. Thanks Ivan, wouldn't have been able to see that coming.
The rest of the Big 12 list is similarly obvious and includes only 4 additional players. There are 2 backups assuming larger roles (Burkhead at NU and Ronnel Lewis at OU) and 2 incoming recruits (Ahmad Dixon at Baylor and Brandon Bourbon at Kansas). I suspect Dixon and Bourbon will have trouble breaking out in spring practice since neither enrolled early and won't be there.
You may remember that I recently tore into Mel Kiper Jr. for listing Gerald McCoy as the 2nd best bet in the NFL draft...well I was premature. McShay is projecting Gerald McCoy as the no. 1 pick in the NFL draft because he is "more disruptive" and a "better pass-rusher".
Allow me to review 2 sets of statistics. The first is the individual performances by Suh and McCoy against Texas:
Gerald McCoy: 3 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack, 5 quarterback hurries and 3-5 false starts/holding penalties.
Ndamukong Suh: 12 tackles, 7 TFL, 4.5 sacks, 2 quarterback hurries and 5-7 false starts/holding penalties.
Interesting, let's move on to season statistics and let's throw in Lamarr Houston for more perspective.
Gerald McCoy: 34 tackles, 15.5 TFL, 6 sacks, 2 PBU, 9 QBH, FR, FF
Lamarr Houston: 68 tackles, 22 TFL, 8 sacks, 4 PBU, 28 QB*, 2 FR
Ndamukong Suh: 85 tackles, 24 TFL, 12 sacks, 1 INT, 10 PBU, 26 QBH, FF, 3 blocked kicks
*the big discrepancy let me to believe that OU wasn't tracking hurries but hits until I verified on their website that McCoy had 5 hurries against Texas. Wouldn't the better pass rusher, if not getting achieving sacks, be at least pressuring the quarterback regularly?
Now allow me to point out a few more points. First these guys all played in the same freaking conference and each of these teams played each other. OU was 0-2, Nebraska 1-1 (barely), Texas 2-0. Secondly, Nebraska played dime defense all the time and relied on Suh to shut down the running game backed by 1 linebacker! Finally, maybe Better Off Red can verify but I'm pretty sure Suh was getting double teamed more frequently then McCoy and certainly Houston. At least, teams were attempting to double team him...
Now, just from looking at those numbers plus whatever you've seen of these guys on film, who would you describe as the "most disruptive"? I feel like my whole argument should be a waste of time. Houston and McCoy are both excellent prospects as 3-tech tackles or 3-4 ends who can get into the backfield. Ndamukong Suh was the best player of 2009 and the best defensive tackle I've ever seen.
Either Todd McShay is a half-wit or he has inside information that the Rams are being run by half-wits. Based on his description of McCoy vs. Suh and his labeling of Sergio Kindle as "overrated" later in the mock draft I'm forced to go with the former.
Basketball:
The McDonald's All American rosters are set and Tristan Thompson, sole Texas recruit for 2010, will be present. Can he be the savior on offense next year? In all seriousness I want to get a good look at the next major post player for the Horns and will have an eye for his effectiveness away from the basket and in the pick'n roll which I feel is absolutely necessary in the Barnes' offense. He may also be immediately the best interior player on the roster if you look at next year's squad:
Lead Guards: Balbay, Brown, Ward, Lucas
Wings: Bradley? Hamilton (I don't think he's gone unless by transfer), Shaun Williams
Forwards: Chapman, Hill, Johnson, Wangmene
The best lineup next year could easily be a Durant or Aldridge-esque set up where Thompson plays the 5 despite being a more natural PF with Johnson and Hamilton as the other forwards. Next year's team will still be deep despite the departure of Barnes' beloved senior class.
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“Either Todd McShay is a half-wit or he has inside information that the Rams are being run by half-wits”
Or McShay is bored and trying to stir up some web churn a couple of months before the draft talk gets super-serious. Does not negate your first clause.
Or the Rams are desperately trying to gain some small set of leverage over negotiations with the presumed #1 pick and are feeding McShay this line of probable BS. Does not negate your second clause.
Of course, neither of your clauses negate the other. It could be McShay is a half-wit AND the Rams are run by half-wits. Like the hot chick says at the end of Trading Places, “Can’t we have both?”
by CrazyJoeDavola66 on Feb 12, 2010 12:47 AM CST reply actions
What does Peter King say? Scipio asked me to inquire.
by Sailor Ripley on Feb 12, 2010 1:04 AM CST reply actions
Todd McShay has been discredited so many times its not even funny. That guy doesn’t know anything. He said that Jake Locker would be worthy of the No. 1 QB in this years draft. Not a chance. NFL scouts said he was out of his mind. He previously predicted that Andre Woodson from Kentucky would be a great 1st round pick for someone. He’s no longer in the NFL.
The fool only makes news to make news. A product of American FAIL.
by BevoBryan on Feb 12, 2010 1:13 AM CST reply actions
Ulatoski was in his pre-season top-10. Yikes.
by Max Fischer on Feb 12, 2010 7:46 AM CST reply actions
He’s invited to the NFL combine, so we will how good a prospect he is and how bad Mcshitty of a coach is.
by FROMWESTTEXASBRAH on Feb 12, 2010 7:57 AM CST reply actions
I posted our potential 2010 basketball lineup over at BON a few days back. Unless J’Covan has a major epiphany over the next month and a half, I think Barnes desperately needs Cory Joseph to pledge Burnt Orange.
I’m not sure if it’s a money thing (assuming Texas isn’t one of those teams that pay players under the table), but if I’m a top flight point guard, I recognize that the coaches at Texas (Ford, Augustin) and Kentucky (Rose, Evans, Wall) have the pedigree and the showcase for me to make in the the league. And if I’m Barnes, I’d recognize that I need a freakin’ awesome 1 to get my team anywhere in life.
by jc25 on Feb 12, 2010 8:35 AM CST reply actions
Our double team on Suh consisted of the Center (Chrissy Hall) and Suh taking on the RG.
by NY Horn on Feb 12, 2010 9:25 AM CST reply actions
Really like your daily stuff, Nickel. Keep it coming.
Dixon may have a tough time making an impact at Baylor at all. Didn’t I read he enrolled at Navarro JC? May never make it to Baylor. That makes me laugh a little.
While I agree that Suh is a monster and they’re is no doubt that McShay is an ass clown. Although I don’t think he’s licensed. Cue Anthony Michael Hall. I will point out that Mayock from NFL Network has McCoy #1 and Suh #2, although he admitted that he doesn’t have a strong preference and it’s a coin flip. Depends on how you feel about Mayock, I guess, but it’s not out of the realm of thought to have both DTs rated fairly close. I take Suh, but McCoy’s pretty darn good as well. He may not crap helmets like Tommie Harris did before injury, but he should be good. We allowed Suh to have the game of his life and it made him a lot of money and unfortunately it cost Colt the Heisman (I’ll never forgive Hall, Tanner and McWhorter).
by Patrick Bateman on Feb 12, 2010 10:02 AM CST reply actions
NY Horn: yeah that’s true. I can’t remember for sure but I think Texas tried to run away from Suh a number of times and double Crick. Those instances resulted in Suh reaching the play very easily and destroying it for a loss. The attempts to double him didn’t really fare any better.
Bateman: I think McCoy is a really excellent tackle and I would draft him to my team without hesitation because I value the position, but Suh is so far and beyond him. I think these guys are getting lost in McCoy’s reputation and likely combine numbers or something because there is no way that tape evaluation says that McCoy is anywhere close.
Nebraska built their entire defense around Suh, begged opposing teams to try and stop them, and he led them in tackles for 2 consecutive seasons…McCoy lined up next to Jeremy Beal and in front of 3 solid to really good linebackers. If I were a Rams fan I would be leading demonstrations in the streets for Suh.
by Nickel Rover on Feb 12, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions
Any person who watched more than five minutes of college football last year and came away thinking McCoy is better than Suh is a certifiable fucking idiot. In fact, Suh has no peer. None, nada. Nobody does what he does.
PB – I read the same thing about Dixon enrolling at Navarro. It gives me the warm-fuzzies knowing that the Curse of Mack is alive and well…
by Bob Tiger Lilly on Feb 12, 2010 10:52 AM CST reply actions
Tommie Harris is one of the most overrated players in the league. His team actually plays better without him.
I don’t really give a damn about mock drafts. They are all about generating web traffic. No one could credibly make an argument that McCoy is better than Suh.
by Sugarpants on Feb 12, 2010 10:56 AM CST reply actions
Joseph is not a PG FWIW. He will play off guard in college. Especially at Texas…
by Blake Borron on Feb 12, 2010 11:10 AM CST reply actions
Whither Kabongo? I was under the impression he had already committed?
by hodad on Feb 12, 2010 12:06 PM CST reply actions
Kabongo is a junior, I believe. Another year before he joins us.
by Patrick Bateman on Feb 12, 2010 12:09 PM CST reply actions
“Kabongo is a junior, I believe. Another year before he joins us.”
Unfortunately, this is true. sigh Not to mention 6-5 SG Sheldon McClellan and 6-8 SF DeAndre Daniels.
by Blake Borron on Feb 12, 2010 12:58 PM CST reply actions
Reminds me of when, in 2001, Mel Kiper Jr. decided at the last minute that he was WAY WAY smarter than conventional wisdom and that Kenyatta Walker from Florida was the best offensive lineman in the draft due to his quick feet, and that Leonard Davis wasn’t fit to carry his strap du coq sportif…obnoxiously and gratuitiously adding “Kenyatta Walker is better!” anytime anybody mentioned Davis’ name on-air….Walker was drafted mid-1st round by Tampa and was thrown to the wolves as starting left tackle as a rookie where he was absolutely atrocious, committing penalties, unable to block even the wispiest or leaden-footed of speed rushers. He had one game I watched (forget against who) where he turned in a Chris Hall vs. Ndamukong Suh style meltdown of a performance giving up 3-5 sacks and getting benched and losing his starting job. He quickly got the Bust label and lived up to it (though in fairness he did play on their super bowl team) and was last seen on the Toronto Argonaut Practice Squad in 2008.
Davis meanwhile…etc.
by Pangloss on Feb 12, 2010 1:32 PM CST reply actions
Kiper was at least right that Davis wasn’t a tackle, his success has come at guard. Of course, he’s had success.
We might see the same thing from Okung and Trent Williams who are projecting really high as left tackles. I don’t think either of these guys approach sure things at Left tackle in the NFL but I’m sure they will contribute some value. Top 10 value though?
by Nickel Rover on Feb 12, 2010 4:15 PM CST reply actions
Joseph is a combo guard that has more PG skills then the 3 headed monster that we have right now. My understanding is that he wants to play PG in college. He is very good going to the bucket and can finish, strong at 6’3" , great all around game ,3’s are no problem for him, mid range game needs work, passes well,makes good passes, rebounds well for his size, Defense is above average.
He is leaning to Minny and playing with his brother, Tx is down about third if my information is correct. He would do well at Texas if he didn’t blow up with you know who.
A trade is possible if ricky wants to let Hill, Lucas, and a player to be named later go for Joseph. I am sure that ricky will not let any seniors go in a trade, as in Mason .
by skymonkeyhorn on Feb 12, 2010 4:32 PM CST reply actions

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