Combine...Tuesday!

Atleast Perrish benched 12 reps and described the interviewers as “harassing” him.

Pathetic showing.

Maybe Colt can play DB in the NFL.

Gerald McCoy was asked by Mayock who the best offensive lineman was that he went up against and he responded, “Charlie Tanner.”

No wonder he appeared so damn good.

OSU’s Lucien Antoine – 4.65 and 4.6

Javier Arenas – Hurt his hamstring on his first attempt (I think).

Larry Asante – 4.69 and 4.63

Eric Berry – 4.46 and 4.4. Great times.

Eric Berry = the best player in this draft.

What seperates him from Earl in your mind?

2nd attempts

Cox – 4.57

Franks – 4.57

Haden – 4.6. Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

Jackson – 4.63

HJ putting some bad karma on ET’s 40’s.

Haden might fall like Malcolm Jenkins. OSU fan thought he was 4.4 too.

What Separates Earl from Berry? Lbs and Inches.

Berry looked pretty fluid on the back pedal and turn drill as well. Hey, maybe the Redskins will draft him instead of a quarterback, or defensive tackle. Just as long as they don’t take offensive lineman. Because that would make no sense.

http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/0af8832e446fcc5fd40a0e04225b3340/NFL-GIANTS-REDSKINS.jpg

I’m pretty interested to find out how Earl runs. Sounds like a slow track, which makes Berry’s results all the more impressive,

Berry himself declared to the scouts he’s the best player in the draft. I’m not sure he’s wrong but that’s typically not something you tell them.

Suh’s combine numbers have backed up his play on the field as the best overall player. The Rams would be idiots to draft McCoy with the first pick over the Nigerian QB tosser.

Haden almost fell over on the backpedal/sprint drill. Not having a great day.

I watched Suh run the 40 on Sportscenter this morning and couldn’t believe how smooth he runs for a D-tackle. He really is a phenomenal athlete.

Charlie tanner had the highest bench on the team. I think he got too much criticism

Okay, Berry with a 10’10" broad jump is ridiculous….

I don’t think it’s a slow track. They’ve had some pretty solid times. Not everyone is going to run a 4.4. 4.5 is good for a corner – I think that’s about what Aaron Ross ran and he was a first rounder. 4.6 is not good, but it won’t put you out of the league. Hell, there are some UFAs that are probably in the 4.7 range but play fine in coverage as long as they have safety help deep.

Wow, no shit? What did Berry measure out to?

My boy Emmanuel Sanders (Bellville represent) had a 10’6" to lead the wr’s.

Javier Arenas with a 4.52 is going to help him. He was considered quick but not fast. Of course, Shipley ran by him…..He pulled a hammy.

Brian Jackson from OU ran a 4.58. No wonder Colt had no problem taking his legs out! They were moving in slow motion.

Haden and Cox really hurt themselves with their times…

Aaron Ross ran a 4.44 at the combine I believe…

The real difference between Berry and Earl is that Berry can (and probably will) play Cornerback in the NFL. He can also play either Strong or Free Safety. Earl is pretty much strictly a Free Safety.

Shit, combine is streaming at work. I’m going to get fired.

Taylor Mays had a 41" vertical and just ran a 4.24.

Too bad he’s not a football player.

Holy sheet. Mays with an unofficial 4.24.

This second group is running a lot faster. Thomas should do well.

How is Taylor Mays not a Vivid girl’s name?

Did dude really run a 4.24? Christ. there are som fast guys this year.

“The real difference between Berry and Earl is that Berry can (and probably will) play Cornerback in the NFL. He can also play either Strong or Free Safety. Earl is pretty much strictly a Free Safety.”

Where did you get that? Some teams have Thomas as high as the 2nd CB on their board according to the MoveTheSticks guy.

The difference between the two is run support. Berry is better there, so a team wanting a complete safety will take him first. A team like the Texans that need a playmaker who can cover might opt for Thomas first. And, still, it’s not like Thomas is a bad run support player.

HOLY SHITBALLS! 4.24 by a 6’3" 230lbs safety!

Damn, 4.24 for Mays! Probably unofficial and will be bumped. If that holds, that would make him tied for the fastest player in combine history. He’s phenomenal athlete, maybe he should try the decathlon, because he can’t cover a corpse.

“You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit….”

Chris Cook is an interesting CB prospect:

6’2, 212 lbs, 32.5 arms. Ran a 4.43 40 and broad jumped 11 feet! He’s weak though. 7 reps in the 40, but that isn’t as important for a CB….

Just move Mays to OLB. Limited coverage problem solved.

Myron Rolle might be the first guy in history with a GPA higher than his 40.

Rolle was thinking too much

What did Rolle run? Was he carrying an encyclopedia???

4.53 by ET…ouch.

Damn, Earl. Needs a sub 4.5….

I don’t think 4.53 merits an ouch. Not stellar but certainly not bad. Let’s see what he does on the second attempt.

What Chris Applewhite said. Thomas can play corner or nickel.

The Taylor Mays stuff is just bizarre. He’s constantly lauded for being Adonnis, but he plays like he’s wearing training wheels. He occasionally makes a highlight reel tackle, but there’s not much else there. I wonder what a move to OLB would do for him. He doesn’t appear to have much in the way of instincts and he’s never been considered some type of blitz master. I’d like to see the experiment, in any event.

Re Thomas’ 4.53 time, his instincts probably make him play a tenth of a second faster. Dude seriously has some of the best instincts I’ve ever seen. Damn we are gonna miss him this year.

Mays …. 4.24 unofficial

I expected him to be sub 4.5. That’s a little disappointing.

Has Oakland traded their entire draft to the Rams for the chance to draft Mays yet?

C’mon Earl! One thing to keep in mind is Earl has to be bigger than what he had been playing at. I think he’s atleast 10 pounds heavier.

T1,

I think we all agree and know ET is badass. 4.53 is not a bad time, but he may have been able to jump Haden as 2nd best DB with a good mid 4.4 time. Ultimately, they play different positions (although it was thought that Earl could play a little CB) so it may not matter. Berry is blowing stuff up right now. Earl measured big for him, so he’s still doing well.

A 4.53 by Thomas is a fine time. That’s right in the middle. He came in bigger than expected and he’s lauded for his instinct and playmaking skills. Compared to all of the other noise out there, he’s basically meeting expectations, which means middle to late 1st. Good for him.

The guy who probably lost about $5-10 million this morning is Joe Haden. He was a top 7 guy and just ran a 4.6 while falling over himself in drills. Calling him the 1st CB off the board is tough now.

Mr Bateman,

See CTJ’s comments on Haden. I think he hurt himself big time today. I can’t see how Earl doesn’t jump over him if he wasn’t there already. He’s probably still the 2nd safety on most people’s boards and no worse than the 3rd best safety. the only reason he might be the 3rd safety now is not so much that he ran a 4.53, but that Mays ran a 4.24.

Al Davis just felt a tingle below the waist he hasn’t felt in years.

The DB from Rutgers, McCourty, is impressive. 5’11 192, two 4.35 40’s and 7 career blocked kicks.

Tim says the scouts are only there to watch to Jamar Wall.

Does Ross run with his eyes closed?

I agree that Haden hurt himself today. I have a feeling he’ll run again at UF’s pro-day and run much better. I think ET’s the 2nd best safety, but someone might fall in love with workout warrior, Mays. ET, depending on the team drafted to and his speed, may have started out as a CB, a la Griffin or Lott, and then move over to FS. I wonder how 4.53 will impact that versatility. I think it’s fine.

Chad Jones is probably hurting himself a bit. 4.57 for 221 lbs is okay, but 9 reps on the bench….

attababy ET, fofofo foty

4.44 from ET on his second go. I said we should wait and see what his second time was. GOt off the line better the second time.

Nice. ET performs best when money’s on the line. Bigtime. God, we’re going to miss him. I’ll be just as sad when Aaron (AJ) leaves after next year. I think he’s going to continue the tradition of 1st round DBs. Lockdown CB next year…

Hell yeah Earl, that’s what happens when UT Nation does the Care Bear Stare as he runs.

Quandre Diggs is the next Earl Thomas.

We’ll miss him when we don’t offer.

Earl just moved into the top 20 with that time. Teams want versatility and he offers both with great instincts, hands, speed, and some Orange, TX swagger.

You fucks are stirring up a hornets nest.

I thought we didn’t offer Diggs…grades? WTF?

Here we go….

I think the Texans had an outside chance at him before that last forty, now, not at all. Hopefully the 49ers take him and Sailor and Scip can take him under his wing. If anyone can help an East Texan get acclimated to the cosmopolitan SF it’s those two, having gone through it themselves.

we’re not offering Diggs?

Thomas was already a probable inside 20 pick. I don’t think the 40 changed anything, although it may have solidified things.

In regard to Diggs, if anyone is throwing grades out there as a reason for the non-offer, they’re full of shit and receiving bad information. Grades are fine.

I think CTJ is correct. I’ve seen Earl everywhere from 12-20. His weight and this past 40 solidified the thinking of him as a top 20 talent. Where he goes in that top 20 may be influenced by that last 40 as long as it holds and if he interviewed well and performs as well in the drills as we hope.

The official times might end up being much different than the official times. The unofficial on CJ Spiller was something like a 4.28, and his official time ended up being in the 4.3’s. Maybe Taylor Mays ends up with a similar drop.

As for Scipio adjusting to San Francisco, that’s a joke. Rumor amongst the movers and shakers of the Barking Carnival roster indicate that while on campus, Scipio was often seen in class sporting a mauve silk smoking jacket and a tortoise shell cigarette holder cradling a daisy or tulip. I’d say he didn’t have to adjust much.

I’m willing to bet Diggs gets an offer in due time. A little patience is in order.

I’m holding back on the Diggs non-offer myself. I do think he should be a take though. The thought of that guy beating us somehow at OU disturbs me.

Taylor Mays official time was 4.43. Lets hope earl’s discrepancy wasn’t that large.

That’s not surprising about Mays. That would have put him with Chris Johnson. Still a very good time though….

From that NFL scout on Twitter:

“At the Safety position, I’d rather have 4.55 with instincts than 4.30 without instincts. Good eyes more than makeup the difference in speed”

Mays’ first run did not look anywhere near that fast. It makes sense now that we know it wasn’t.

From a fantasy site….Mayock quote is great….

Texas S Earl Thomas ran unofficial forty times of 4.53 and 4.44 Tuesday at the NFL Combine.
The second run is a very good time. Thomas didn’t sniff Taylor Mays’ straight-line speed, but he plays with more range than the USC safety. NFL Network’s Mike Mayock called Thomas the most instinctive safety to come into the league in 10 years. He remains a good bet to go in the top 15 picks of the draft.

Haden with 10’5" broad jump. Shortest of any CB thus far. He’s losing some money today…

The thought of Alabama replacing Javier Arenas with not only someone from our backyard, but also from Mack’s circle of trust, disturbs me.

I refuse to believe we don’t offer. I just can’t understand the hold up. Must be his grades?

Kidding CTJ, have you added another dependent yet?

bama won’t offer Diggs, is that what you’re referring to? if they have, I apologize….and yes, we shat the bed…

Sydney- The fact that you just used the word “mauve” in a combine thread indicates you might have been Scip’s guide in the Castro when he got out there.

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe Fuck yourself.

Yeah, I would definitely have gone with fuchsia vice mauve.

Now he’s referencing lines from a Calvin Klein model….When will it end?

Ballrific, I like how you matter of factly say ’Bama wont offer Diggs and then apologize if they have. They have, apology accepted. They offered last week along with Tenn.

magnus, it was one of those things, “no way they’ll offer” and then it would have been a surprise if they did. that’s all. I’m still surprised they did….there’s gotta be more to the story but do you think he’ll tell us to fuck off now regardless of the family connection?

hopefully this combine thread hasn’t been derailed….Scip has a smoking jacket? nice.

Looking forward to months and months more of bitching about Diggs.

I agree, something is playing out behind the scenes, and I don’t think it has anything to do with Diggs. Certainly talent isn’t an issue. Along with the ‘Bama offer he’s got LSU, OU, and quite a few other good schools in the fold. USC is said to be showing interest.

In the end, I think he ends up a ‘horn, I’m just tired of the chicanery.

“Quandre Diggs is the next Earl Thomas.”

HJ wanted this thread jack to happen, and we fully complied. What was Berry’s forty?

You hold the keys to Recruitocosm. Falsify reports saying he’s committed and it’s all good. Then on signing day write, “That sell-out bitch switched his verbal to so and so….”

my guess is that mack told diggs he has an offer but he didn’t want to make it public to keep the other DB’s we are looking at from getting butt hurt. it is easy to just say no DB got an offer at the second junior day. the comments from diggs after the junior day did not strike me as someone who had just gotten snubbed in any way.

What’s with these official vs. unofficial time discrepencies? Colt said last night he ran a 4.6 at the combine. His official was like 4.77 or 4.79. Who the fuck decides to change it and on what basis?

Yep, I heard the same thing Blues…anyone have an answer? NFL site still shows the 4.79 for Colt.

hand times are always faster and whoever the NFL network has doing their times is really shitty at it. This is why every other recruit supposedly runs a 4.4

I see on another thread that Colt’s unofficials were 4.79 and 4.81. What were his officials? Do they hand time AND electronically time? If not, how do they decide to adjust a hand time?

Speaking personally, my hand times always exceed my computer times. See, the keyboard interferes . . .

One Mississippi two Mississippi three Mississippi Four Missis… 4.54!

There is no conspiracy involving a silent with Diggs. Florida is about to offer him though. Bama thinks he’s Javier Deuce.

Digg’s situation is pretty mysterious. He supposedly was in high spirits after leaving the junior day, which seems inconsistent with not receiving an offer. Someone in his situation, with his film and contacts with the program not receiving an offer, probably would be pretty insulting.

Maybe we’re using Diggs as bait to pull out the street agents in the SEC??

SEC

I was thinking about this during the Olympics. As the crowd broke into the USA! USA! chants, I wondered to myself “Are we the patriotic equivalent of SEC fan to the rest of the world?”

Damn that post didn’t come out right.

“I was thinking about this during the Olympics. As the crowd broke into the USA! USA! chants, I wondered to myself "Are we the patriotic equivalent of SEC fan to the rest of the world?"

As a Canadian, emphatically YES.

There are only two plausible rationales for not offering Diggs:

1. More time to evaluate in-state and OOS guys given our limited ships remaining to give, knowing that if we eventually offer, the legacy ties will come through for us.
2. Muschamp wanting more size in the secondary. He’s mentioned it in a few booster speeches in the offseason.

Everything else checks out: grades, character, talent, production in high school, wants to be on the 40 acres … he’s a take any and every year.

Just because we’ve moved up the timetable on recruiting doesn’t mean we should freak out over not offering a kid in February with 12 months to go until signing day. But hopefully we learned something from the Mike Davis recruitment last year. Luckily that turned our way but not all of them will.

Kids are starting to take which junior day you invite them to more seriously than the invite itself. As Diggs’ offers from BCS Top 10 schools pile up, Texas better not stop recruiting the kid just because he visited and we didn’t offer.

He doesn’t have a position advocate. They don’t know what to do with him, basically. It’s not that crazy or dramatic.

I nominate CTJ as his position advocate! He can do for Mini Jammer what he did for the Baylor Bears!

I’ve heard he wants to be RB and we’re offering as DB….I’ve also heard our coaches are getting good at inflicting butt hurt on some of these recruits last few years…a little common sense would go a long way with them. But I’ve heard alot of bullshit in general…

100!

“As a Canadian, emphatically YES.”

And as an American, it’s nice to see our influence starting to seep into the Canadian psyche. I knew you guys could pick up on sports jingoism! It just takes money, time and the right attitude, and you too can be an obnoxious WINNAR!

As for recruiting, given Mack Brown’s approach, I think it’s necessary and appropriate that every recruiting season we get to pick one guy to grouse about offering (Doyle or Moss this year – I think most are settling on Doyle) and one guy to freak out over not offering (Diggs this year).

We’ve recruited dozens of guys we didn’t know what to do with …

Seems to me Fitzhume, should have named himself ‘Milbarge’ being a canuck and all. What a hoser, eh?

We’ve recruited dozens of guys we didn’t know what to do with …

We’re all like Sailor Ripley and shit.

magnus -

I will say that living all over the states for a few years has taught me why Americans make fun of the way we talk. Not to say that there aren’t some moronic-sounding dialects in this country, but every time I hear an Air Canada pilot say “welcome te-de flight, eh?” or a hockey announcer say “and he shoots the puck oot of the zone” it makes me laugh.

And I honestly considered Milbarge, but Chevy Chase has by far the better character in that movie.

Now, what were we talking about again? Oh yeah, I can run a 4.39 40 if I time myself mentally. That number drops a bit when someone else does it, though. Doc Saturday dredged up that picture of Florida’s “best performers” board, made me laugh since Haden is quite high on it.

I don’t see how Americans chanting “USA” is the equivalent of a Tennessee fan chanting “SEC.”

Maybe if we were chanting “NAFTA” or “NATO” that would make sense but not “USA.” I have no problem with Tennessee fans singing Rocky Top after a big win. Yeah. it’s annoying but I am sure so is Texas Fight. What’s stupid about chanting “SEC” is that they are bragging about their affiliation with 11 other teams who want to beat them. It’s even stupider listening to some dude chant “SEC” during a conference game just because someone makes a great play – pathetic.

So…. he’s an obvious take, but Muschamp wants to hold out for Turner and those guys before offering? Is that pretty much the deal?

I think he’s a super secret commit that only Ketchum knows about. In fact, he loves UT so much he’s going to string along the percieved competition, the ‘Bamas, LSU’s, and OU’s long enough to occupy their resources, and let us move in on the Turner’s and Rasco’s of the world. Ssshhhhh.

I don’t know the point of holding out. You put the athlete tag on Diggs and no position players should fear him. Surely not the top corners in the nation. My choice for “position advocate” would be sizzle. He seems to know what positions to put the talent in.

Nobody knows what the hell is going on with Diggs’ recruitment – except Ketchum of course. You can find out the $information you are looking for, in meticulously generalized hypothetical speculation, at OB.

Damn, Blue – beat me to the punch

Pile driver, imo.

Where the hell is W-Horn when we need him? He could buy and sell all of you with his most successfullest attorneying in history of world.

Myron Rolle ran an official 4.59 and that’s not slow for a safety…not by any means…