Bob Stoops (Hee-Hee!) Talks Draft
The Barking Carnival found Bob Stoops’ telephone! We were holding a teambuilding exercise at a corporate training location on the northbound access road of I-35, just south of Walnut Hill in Dallas.
I had to fill up with gas, and pulled up next to a pump just as a pink Cadillac left. I looked down, and underneath an empty beef jerky wrapper was a basic Samsung cell phone. I waved after the car, but it was too late. I went to the address book and keyed in "I…C…" and "ICE oe-Jay astiglione-Cay" scrolled to the top. It had to be a Sooner Athletics Department phone. OK, so much for returning it to anybody but the NCAA.
I took it to the BC team meeting. It was hard to talk amongst all the noise and lights, but we were able to communicate by writing on napkins and such. Which Sooner coach owned this phone? We scanned the address book…"Barry", "Brent", "Cade", "Carol"…! OMG! We struck the mother lode!
Ripley quickly made assignments- Trips was to message recruits, and Scipio was to send out employment inquiries. Vasherized was going to compose hard sells of Mary Kay products to OU AD wives, but a check of the outbox revealed that Stoops already did that, killing the comedic value.
A message came in from "Dave Sittler"- "Comments on 1st round?"
We talked it over. Given that all four, with the possible exception of Williams, were slated to go in the 1st round last year, and all were talked into returning for an unranked 8 – 5 season, what could he say? What would he say?
We decided that there is no way he would concede anything. This is the guy who argued that Texas losing to Tech in Lubbock last year (where OU hasn’t manged to win a game since 2003), and OU beating Tech in Norman (where the Raiders haven’t won since 1996) proved that OU was better than Texas, despite any on-field evidence to the contrary. Still, we couldn’t play it straight. How could we word it so that it was obviously over the top?
"What about all the naysayers now?"
Perfect! Claim victory. Throw in ridiculous word that nobody uses. Send.
A few minutes later…Ping! A reply. "Didn’t Bradford lose a year of pay?" He had a point. Bradford went #1, but he would have done the same in 2009. Really…Matt Stafford? Plus, last year he was healthy, and fresh off a Heisman season. We decided to play "opposite man". Given that Bradford was knocked out of two of his three starts, we texts back, "Bradford proved he was more durable this year...forsooth." We were hesitant to send it, because it was so obviously bogus, but the martinis (some BCers drink gin, some dring vodka, but absolutely no appletinis or flirtinis…we just don’t roll that way) were kicking in. We knew the jig was up, but…Ping!
Reply. "Good point. What about McCoy?" Good heavens. He actually bought it. What kind of journalist could be that blind to farce and satire? Oh yeah, one that covers the Sooners. This was going to be harder than we thought.
Let’s see. McCoy is a DT, a perennial position of need, and this was considered a talented draft, while last year wasn’t. McCoy was projected last year to be a high 1st round pick, and the first DT taken last year was BJ Raji, #9. How could anybody argue McCoy wouldn’t have gone as high last year. Let’s try it…"A scout told me that McCoy was a 2nd rounder last year, verily"…Send. Obviously BS. All the normal evaluation leaks had him in the first, and his measurables got no better in the offseason. Besides, Sittler himself wrote about Stoops’ complaints that you can’t trust the NFL scouts…
Ping! Reply- "2nd round? Really? Look’s like he was smart to wait a year!"
Stunned looks all around. He’s onto it. Sittler is pranking us. We decided to go out in a blaze of glory. "Final text. Gresham improved his position by hurting his knee, not playing and getting out of shape for the combine. Williams proved he was an elite LT by playing center! I am the eggman! Goo-goo-ga-joob! Bob, out!" We then gave the phone to the old guy selling products in the men’s room.
Yeah, Sittler really pulled one over on us. I wonder how he is spinning the draft, though…
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yeah but according to one sooner fan “He in joyed one more year of college life.”
by AirHorn on Apr 26, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions
To be fair, OKC vs. Detroit (2009’s #1 draft pick)? Push.
by TaylorTRoom on Apr 26, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions
Which one of you posted this? I couldn’t make that many mistakes if i just randomly typed letters on a keyboard. Are you kidding me that the author of that piece of shit is a journalist? He makes Bill Little seem objective.
drG Your right He lost a year of earning’s. He gained one more year of college. He in joyed one more year of college life. He became bigger and stronger . yes OU fans were concerned about Sam.
If you were a fan. You would know. oklahoma fans love their players. We hurt when they hurt. We expect the best out of them. We give them the best. Talk to the old players . When they come back ,it’s like coming home. Their family and alway’s will be.
We love Bob Stoops! DrG you don’t get that! Bob has done so much for the kids, the school, oklahoma. We trust him! Bob has proved himself. not in wins, but his action’s with our kids.
Go ask any of his players. Is stepping on the field worth the risk of injury! How many kids have advanced on . Not just the NFL but life. there are a lot of kids who will go into the draft and not make teams. But they lived a dream.
What dream did you live DrG?
Your comments are a standard B.S. against OU. I am sorry your life is made by second guessing one of the best and finest coach’s in the nation on and off the field!!!
BOOMER SOONER
by Bartoncreek on Apr 26, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions
I think my favorite is “alway’s”. That might be the first and last time I see an apostrophe on always. But, I don’t peruse many Sooner boards so it may be more common than I think.
by Bartoncreek on Apr 26, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
In texasbill’s defense, its not immediately obvious whether ‘always’ is the plural or possessive form.
by texastough on Apr 26, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions
me: So getting your shoulder crashed into the turf twice in 2 months and breaking it both times helps your NFL standing?
Big game bob: (while smiling smugly) What do you think?
me: No.
I’m sorrry. I like Bradford in general but if I’m an NFL GM I don’t draft him #1. Maybe not even first round. Is he going to get hurt every time he falls on his right shoulder? He was 2 for 2 last year. How is he going to hold up long term?
by Monahorns on Apr 26, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
I love the argument that putting on weight helped his draft position. First, articles from a year ago noted he was already adding weight by February 2009. Second, the added weight is supposed to serve as evidence of increased durability. Counterevidence? Twice-wrecked shoulder. Bradford went #1 because he throws a sweeter pass than anybody else, not because returning helped him.
by TaylorTRoom on Apr 26, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions
More weight is going to hurt the shoulder more when he falls on it again.
by Monahorns on Apr 26, 2010 1:18 PM CDT reply actions
Wasn’t Gresham slotted to go much higher in 2009 then he went in 2010?
by springbranchhorn on Apr 26, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
I think Trent Williams is going to be OU’s Mike Williams. Or was that Loadholt.
by Monahorns on Apr 26, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
How could Gresham’s return have been a good thing? Why would any NFL team draft him higher this year than last year? Even if they had, he lost out on a year’s earnings as an NFLer.
by czarcw on Apr 26, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions
Stretching their logic a little, I am going to go jump off a tall building so that I can get drafted too. Hee hee hee hee hee
by Monahorns on Apr 26, 2010 1:41 PM CDT reply actions
In the final analysis, Stoops cost those players millions of dollars because their stock did not increase by the extra year of college ball.
by Eskimohorn on Apr 26, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
Of course, if they had not come back, OU would have probably finished 2009 as an unranked team in a nothing bowl game.
by TaylorTRoom on Apr 26, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t think Gerald McCoy goes #3 if he goes last year, but I think Bradford goes #1 last year or this year.
For whomever was asking about Gresham: NO, he was not projected any higher than he went this year. He’s a liability in blocking, and that hasn’t changed.
TaylorT,
I would argue that had Bradford, Gresham, and Trent Williams declared early, OU actually would’ve been better off. We would’ve had our QB spending the entire offseason getting reps with the WRs. We wouldn’t have designed our offense around the luxury of a near-unstoppable red zone weapon. We would’ve figured out a LOT sooner that our offense was Ryan Broyles and no one else. Maybe we wouldn’t have relied on a guy whose work ethic was questionable at best to be the leader of the offensive line.
That said, Gerald McCoy wasn’t leaving before 2009. He’s the kind of guy who goes to women’s volleyball games to cheer. Seriously. Only UT fans would be ignorant enough to think Gerald McCoy staying had anything to do with Stoops.
by NateHeupel on Apr 26, 2010 7:35 PM CDT reply actions
Gerald McCoy seems like a good dude. He and Roy Miller will kick a lot of ass together. I’m glad he left.
by dick on Apr 26, 2010 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
McCoy is an awesome dude. That line about eating the Tortillas in Lubbock cracked me up.
Nate – Your Gresham stance doesn’t ring true for me. Blocking can be taught and if you are getting paid to do it, you’re more likely to learn. That leaves everything else which is basically a Sasquatch with great hands and wheels. Knee injuries don’t help the latter. Anyway, I am glad to see all three of those dudes out of Norman.
by Sailor Ripley on Apr 26, 2010 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
“In the final analysis” ‘Horn fans are going to criticize Stoops whether he wins or loses and whether OU makes draft history or not. McCoy was a parent when he chose to return and was well aware of his family’s financial needs and the decision he was making. These kids aren’t dumb, easily-manipulated jocks, and they had more info than Mel Kiper or you when they made their decisions. Bradford, Gresham, and McCoy didn’t even finish their eligibility at OU. They chose to come back in ‘09 and could have done the same for ’10.
In the quest to sound semi-objective it should be noted that Dominique Franks was drafted in the 5th round and it takes a stretch of the imagination to think he couldn’t improve his stock by staying another year, especially now that Willie Martinez is pushing fundamentals. Meanwhile Keenan Clayton sticks around for five years and is surprisingly taken in the 4th round. The message to everyone on OU’s roster is work hard and address serious deficiencies before you go pro.
You don’t pull in a top 5 recruiting class if high school kids think it’s the coaches’ incompetence which leads to an 8-5 season.
by what I think on Apr 28, 2010 3:28 AM CDT reply actions
Nate, I’m not denying any of what you say. I’m just laughing at the idea in Sittler’s article- that somehow Bradford and Gresham improved their position in the draft by returning to play…I mean not play…in 2009. That somehow Trent Williams improved his position by participating on that abomination of an OL, eventually moving from LT to center. McCoy may have helped himself.
Bradford and Gresham were drafted high in spite of a disastrous 2009 season, not because of.
As for “what I think”’s comments- the 2008 Sooners may have been one of the most talented teams in college football history. To date, there have been 12 starters/regulars drafted from that team- (4) 1st rounders, (1) 2nd rounder, (1) 3rd rounder, (1) 4th rounder, (4) 5th rounder, and (1) 7th rounder. DeMarco Murray, Ryan Broyles, and Travis Lewis are still yet to come out for the draft. That team lost twice on neutral fields, by 10 points. Yes, there is nothing wrong with the coaching at OU.
by TaylorTRoom on Apr 28, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions

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