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Conference Realignment: What To Do With The Leftovers

Thanks to the combination of the latest rumor du jour about conference shakeups and Trips NCAA/USC/Black Helicopter scenario it has been a very entertaining week here at BC.

It is becoming increasingly clear that something is going to rip apart the Big 12, and while some programs dream of where they are going -- others wonder what in the hell is gonna become of them. Under just about any scenario that has been thrown out, there is one Big 12 power that is conspicuously absent. (Kansas, I'm looking at you.)

Out of all the programs in the Big 12 Kansas, graced with an elite basketball team, one of only a handful that is truly national in audience recognition, finds itself on the outside looking in on the realignment talk.

The Jayhawks are not listed on the Big 10 wish list, and the Kansas City Star writer who suggests they form a "Heartland" Conference based on basketball might not be that far off.

Kansas State, Baylor and Iowa State certainly would jump at the chance. Maybe you could add a Memphis, Xavier, Butler etc and at least be a viable player in NCAA basketball.

Kansas AD Lew Perkins understands the precarious position his program is in.

"If I said I wasn't worried, I'd be a fool," Perkins said Tuesday. "I'm worried every day about what's going to happen. Not just at Kansas or in the Big 12, but in the Pac 10, the Big Ten. This is serious, serious stuff."

Of course this hasn't been the best of weeks for Sweet Lew under any circumstances.

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Kansas doesn’t deserve this.

TT deserves this, Baylor too but not a nice school like Kansas.

My disgust and loathing of TT is reaching an all-time high.

by ChemEinCO on Jun 4, 2010 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

My disgust and loathing of TT is reaching an all-time high.

Tim will get back to you on this.

by parlin on Jun 4, 2010 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Doesn’t help that Big Lew hasn’t even been attending the Big 12 meetings.

http://oreadboomkings.fantake.com/2010/06/04/big-12-tribal-meetings-heat-up-ku-chiefs-a-no-show/

by Triston27 on Jun 4, 2010 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I would like to see Kansas land in the Big 10, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.

by nordberg on Jun 4, 2010 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I, too, have a somewhat unexplained soft spot for the Jayhawks. I always want our hoops team to beat them, but that’s only because they’re good. And the only issue I’ve ever had with their football team is when Mangino mouthed off, but VY took care of that the next year. Plus I never extended that to their whole program for whatever reason.

I hope they land somewhere solid and that guy’s plan may end up being the best they can do.

by Huckleberry on Jun 4, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Every KU fan I’ve ever met, from Vegas to Tahoe (that’s like, the whole damn state of Nevada!) has been a pure asshole, so I do not care what happens to them.

But if there’s a chance we can get Tech to hang around…

by uthookem on Jun 4, 2010 1:57 PM CDT reply actions  

So what you are saying is: There’s a chance?

by ChemEinCO on Jun 4, 2010 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel like I’m pretty nice, why all the hatred?

by mikecrabtree on Jun 4, 2010 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I have had a feeling for quite a while that I was going to be required to whip up some Tier 1 funding projects for Tech to be accepted. I’ve got a little Stanford angle to play getting them on the Tech bandwagon. I’m not leaving our future in DeLoss Dodds or Bill Byrnes hands. I’ll have to help make one for us. This may take a while, but I like challenges and this is big enough for me. For now.

by dedfischer on Jun 4, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

who’s your affiliation? Why would Tech deserve this?

by redraiduzz on Jun 4, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Familiarity breeds contempt.

TT was/is so academically bad, I had a roommate fail out of UT and pull a 4.0 GPA at Tech tell me “It’s easier than high school.”
I was never clear if he meant socially or scholastically.

Add to that Bobby Knight, inability of TT to win at anything, Mike Leach, cheating scandals, and the constant desire to compare yourself with Texas and A&M and grouse about how unfair the world is leaves me with a great deal of repugnance for your institute.

TT = Uof Houston without the good city of Houston to make it even remotely interesting.

HTH

by ChemEinCO on Jun 4, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Let’s name the game, ChemEinCo. I love having a nemesis.

by dedfischer on Jun 4, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

The ‘good city of Houston’ hahaha. That was good. I guess I don’t hate this place though.

Chem – when did you graduate?

by 06_UT on Jun 4, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

1994 but it seems like yesterday.

Nemesis? No Sir, to be a true Nemesis I’d have to study you, walk your walk, infiltrate every fiber of your being and to a certain extent become you.

I did that with Arkansas and look what it got me.

No, as always, TTech even when it come to rivalry draws the short straw.

by ChemEinCO on Jun 4, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ve heard KSU is gonna go ahead and turn pro.

by Ag_in_TX on Jun 4, 2010 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

[Average TT fan] Texas owes its wins over us to the refs. We are a major TV draw independent of Texas. I hate Texas. Texas fans are so arrogant. They are all T-shirt fans. The refs cheat for Texas. I lothe Texas. Loath? Lo— anyway, I can’t stand them! Please, please let us stay in your conference Texas. If you move, don’t forget to take us with you. Don’t leave, us!!!! [/avg TT fan]

by Smart Os on Jun 4, 2010 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

The size of the drilling fluids industry of Scurry County dwarfs that of the entire state of Colorado.

by dedfischer on Jun 4, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Undoubtably,

but my exposure to drilling fluids consisted of dumping 50 lbs bags of bentonite into the 10 barrel tanks of the DC-8 and following it up with the good old 15.8 on the densitometer and going downhole with it til all the grey is gone!

3.16 SG my ass sir and if you don’t believe me go down the well head and check it yourself company man.

by ChemEinCO on Jun 5, 2010 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought drilling fluids meant something else when I visited Lubbock.

by Sailor Ripley on Jun 5, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

uthookem….

you sir, are a wise man……kUPhans are indeed an arrogant bunch

I don’t speak Permian Basin, so back to conference reaignment…..

Watch the Mtn West…..the remaining 5 or 6 Big XII schools could merge with them. This time, instead of folding the conference and forming anew, it would serve the Mtn West to be absorbed by the Big VI, and thus attain BCS status, as well as access to the post season gigs they have lined up ……

by Tiger Gary on Jun 5, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I could envision a new Mid-Continent conference with the best of the MWC, what’s left of the Big 12, plus a couple of additions from the Big East, that would be very attractive…something like this:

West
San Diego State (On potential only)
Utah
BYU
Air Force
New Mexico (Potential again)
Colorado State
Boise State

East
TCU
Louisville
Cincy
Kansas
Baylor
K-State
Memphis

That would be a BCS conference, pretty salty in basketball, and they could pull a pretty nice deal from someone like ESPN or Fox Sports.

by coolhorn on Jun 5, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Somebody brought up an interesting point. Should the Pac-10-Big12 merger materialize, then maybe the SEC makes a move as well. It invites Kansas, North Carolina and Duke.

It then has Kentucky, Kansas, Duke and North Carolina at the top of the basketball food chain while maintaining its football power base.

Interesting idea.

by srr50 on Jun 5, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

NC and Duke will go the Big Tent long before they ever consider the stain of the SEC. In fact the SEC may not be able to pry away any ACC teams now that the new contract has closed the gaps. Given the expansion fever when the ACC contract was finalized, surely they have a renegotiation clause if they add teams. After the Big Tent finishes, the Big East will probably still have at least 2 schools they’d be interested in. Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, Rutgers, and maybe Cincy, not S. Florida or WV or Louisville. The ACC may even end up with Notre Dame.

Right now KS and KSU are putting up a united front that they’ll never be separated. Not sure how long that Maginot Line will hold.

by Pitt Panzers on Jun 5, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I think KU is the Big 10’s real target; Mizzou is just a distraction.

If I were the Big 10, and I really wanteds the apparently-lucrative Missouri markets (Kansas City and St. Louis), I would take Nebraska and Kansas. Mizzou will give you about as much of those markets as SMU will deliver the Dallas market.

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still not sure from all this where, if at all, ChemEinCo was educated.

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