Tommy Tuberville Has Some Advice For The Aggies

If A&M goes to the SEC, I’m buying FedEx stock.

I mentioned that at the end of this post on Tortilla Retort by RRR.

Mike Sherman vs Nick Saban or Urban Meyer on the recruiting trail? Ouch.

Gene Stallings is pushing the Ags to the SEC. Gene Stallings played for teams on probation (the Ags in the ‘50s), and coached teams to probation (Ags in the ’60s and Bama in the ’90s). He knows exactly what he’s doing.

It’s a game of chicken. It’s a gamble that if the Ags recruit to the SEC standard (street agents, payoffs), nobody in Texas will call them on it. Or if they do, the NCAA won’t hit them hard enough to matter.

Seems like a pretty risky bet right after the NCAA hammered Southern Cal. Why would Texas and OU have any issue whatsoever turning in A&M once they’re not a conference partner?

If the Aggies have defected, for all intents and purposes, to a different conference, then I don’t see any way that we don’t report them. Even the Sooners might do it at that point. Certainly Texas Tech will jump at any opportunity to do so.

Don’t want to divert the topic, but do you know what really hurt TAMU recruiting? The NCAA rule that banned private planes in recruiting. Before the ban, if the Ags were recruiting a Dallas schoolboy, they would fly him down to CS. Now, he has to fly commercial to Houston, and drive 1.5 – 2 hours to CS, reflecting the entire time on how many cows he sees. Meanwhile, Texas flies him commercial to Austin, and OU to OKC. Huge difference.

Ironically, the NCAA rule that was supposed to even the recruiting field actually helped the big boys. That happens a lot.

They start cheating and we’ll let Baylor turn them in.

I watch this and think this is like a guy that keeps getting his ass kicked in a regular bar deciding he’d be better off hanging out in a biker bar.

It’s not all hugs and kisses in the big 12 south, but it’s a different kinda ugly in the SEC.

As an OSU alum, I would be glad to stake out a prize recruits house for the pleasure of ratting out the Aggies.

Of course Tuberville wants a re-vote. There was a $300,000 bonus in his contract for winning a MNC…

Apparently A&M does NOT have an invite to the SEC. At least not one unless Texas is part of the equation.

aggy to SEC = Deliverance

They think they are in for a nice weekend trip down the river… play the music boys!

“Apparently A&M does NOT have an invite to the SEC. At least not one unless Texas is part of the equation”

There seems to be considerable disagreement on this.

@Taylor….I take your point, as I think the same is what happened to K-State. American Ealge flies into Bryan now, and has for several years. Interestingly, AEagle just added a DFW to Manhattan, KS route. I wonder if Bill Snyder is underwriting it??

A&M in the SEC is the new Mississippi State

You know the Aggies have no reservations against “a different type of recruiting.” It’s no coincidence that, since their last time on probation, A&M has been largely irrelevant on the national or even regional scene.

I think Texas should stop playing A&M if they do indeed go to the SEC as punishment for opening the door to the sleazy SEC into TX high schools. A&M would be more lost w/o UT than Arkansas is.

I can’t imagine the SEC wouldn’t add A&M if A&M wanted to go. The SEC will have to expand to be sure the P10 doesn’t land 2 bids. A&M is probably the most attractive school in their region (maybe FSU).

“There seems to be considerable disagreement on this.”

Texas A&M will tell you they have an invite. The SEC will tell you they don’t. There is your disagreement.

We will all be in the Pac 10 on Tuesday afternoon when the various regents meet to rubber stamp the move.

Hmm, did Tuberville engage in a “different type of recruiting” while at Auburn & Ole Miss?

And, if he did, will he do the same at Tech?

No. In the SEC, they are all dirty so no one is going to rat you out. No so in the Big 12 or the Pac 16. Yeah, you may have outliers like OU and USC, but I don’t think USC will stray off the reservation for awhile.

In the SEC eveybody cheats their ass off so A&M has that going for them. Gene Stallings is certainly no stranger to it.

I know several Aggies very well and some of them are long time season ticket holders and give a lot of money. Not a single one of them thinks this makes any sense whasoever.

Hmm, did Tuberville engage in a "different type of recruiting" while at Auburn & Ole Miss?

I recall that Tuberville’s wife and possibly the wife of another coach went on an Alabama sports talk radio show right after Tuberville was fired and claimed that their husbands were getting a raw deal, as Alabama was cheating and Auburn wasn’t.

Incidentally, Chizik is now recruiting at a much higher level at AU than Tuberville ever did. Perhaps he’s just a more naturally gifted recruiter than Tuberville, or perhaps Auburn’s administration and boosters have realized what it takes to compete with Saban at Bama.

No. In the SEC, they are all dirty so no one is going to rat you out. No so in the Big 12 or the Pac 16

The SEC protects its own most of the time, unless you go “SMU” (see Albert Means case) and become outlandish about it.

 However if A&M goes, they are the outlier, both physically and spiritually. They will be recruiting mainly in (now) hostile territory when it comes to other programs being more than willing to turn then in (see Texas, Tech, OU, and especially Baylor), and I doubt seriously that any of their new bretheren would be inclined to provide any kind of cover.

After watching our Super-R, I checked out some of the ESPN headlines. The SEC has released a statement saying that Texas is their primary target for expansion, but they will consider A&M. They go on to say that they will not be adding Miami (FL), ………………….. I didn’t catch the last two schools (someone walked in front of the television set).

Maybe that’s a smokescreen, but I don’t think so. That must really irritate the ones that want to go to the SEC.

Tuberville’s first piece of advice should have been to hire him instead of Sherman. Perhaps Tuberville was fired because he wouldn’t adhere to Bobby Lowder’s antics even after winning his division a few times and having an undefeated season with less thought of recruits. Oh, he can scout a little too.

“They go on to say that they will not be adding Miami (FL),…”

If they mean this, I actually think this doesn’t bode real well for a&m. It’s not like they’d add just the ags, and stop at 13 teams.

I think once they get the hard ‘no’ from Texas and OU, they say “hey ags. big gulps huh. welp, see ya later!” and that’ll be that.

There is a report out that the Pac 10 is about to go after Kansas instead of A&M. If the Aggies screw this up, they could actually wind up in no man’s land.

Still, I hope they go to the SEC and give up all of their tradition (hell they will have to change their fight song once our annual game ends) and their entire identity just to squeeze a few extra bucks. And I want to laugh at texags.com as their fans rationalize a 6-6 Big 12 record into anything but 3-9 in the SEC.

I think you are right, nordberg. If they can’t bring in a school that they view as a big plus, they aren’t going to move. If we go to the Big 10, as I suspect we will, and Notre Dame does, as well, things may change.

I suspect we are going to 4 16 team superconferences. If so, at some point there won’t be any options.

It would be hilarious if the ags ended up with Baylor, UH, TCU, and SMU. I’d slot them fighting for 3rd with Baylor behind TCU and Cougar High.

So now TCU is fighting to keep Baylor out of the Mountain West. Payback is a mother fucker.

Chip Brown reporting Ag Board of Regents have enough votes to jump to the SEC, and Silve was in B/CS to offer the Ags unconditionally.

Silve now trying to get OU to move with Aggy to the SEC.

SEC wants Duke and N. Carolina, its called adding another tv market. Virginia Tech could be a target, but look for Duke and UNC.

Duke and UNC are not going to the SEC…..What do those two schools have in common with anyone in the SEC. They are partners with UVA, Wake, GTech, etc.

The only thing that scares me about A&M moving in with their “cultural fits” is that they can end up making it more difficult for us by bringing the SEC schools into Texas with their “different” kind of recruiting.

The odds of the aggies doing better in the SEC than in the big 12 without resorting to “different” recruiting is slim to none.

About the only positive for them would be the fact that the SEC is the one major conference where bryan college station is not one of the shittiest places to spend 4 years.

UNC and Duke? Fuck, I’m getting into wake me when it’s over territory.

I tend to think Stallings is becoming senile. Ags like the posturing though. Or is he senile? Does he really have the interests of ’Bama and the SEC in mind? Just a thought, but really, the SEC would bitch slap A&M and then take a number of Texas TV sets and potential recruits from Ags that they thought they had in the bag..

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