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Roll Tide: Bama Latest Program With A Player/Agent Problem

While USC finally makes some moves to clean up their public image over the Reggie Bush fiasco, investigations into possible violations involving players and NFL agents keep spreading South.

Alabama now says it is investigating reports that Junior defensive lineman Marcel Dareus broke NCAA rules by partying with an agent on South Beach

Dareus is considered to be a Top Ten draft choice next spring and he joins a growing list of potential NFL players who are getting involved with agents.

NCAA investigators are in North Carolina where the connections could even include an assistant coach.

The SEC has been keeping the NCAA busy of late. Along with Alabama, Florida told the NCAA that they are investigating reports that Gator Center Maurkice Pouncey took $100,000 from an agent before the Sugar Bowl.

South Carolina has admitted that their tight end, Weslye Saunders, might be connected to the North Carolina probe.

The NFL Players Association is the organization that has oversight over agents, and 'Bama's Nick Saban is ready to throw them all out on the street.

"What the NFL Players Association and the NFL need to do is if any agent breaks a rule and causes ineligibility for a player, they should suspend his [agent's] license for a year or two," Saban said.

He then added, 'Let's just throw the NFL out. Don't let them evaluate players. Don't let them talk to players. Let them do it at the combine.' If they are not going to help us, why should we help them?"

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Did I just agree with Saban?

I don’t have time for this shit.

by thestos on Jul 20, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Now that the NCAA has actually shown some teeth, there might be a tiny bit of deterrent to the rampant cheating in the SEC and probably most of college football.

by roach on Jul 20, 2010 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, Nick is really frusterated wit all dis crooked shit.

Gimme a fucking break.

by Drew Dunlevie on Jul 21, 2010 1:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Damn shame homeboy wasn’t at that party during the first quarter of the MNC game.

by clarky on Jul 21, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Albert Means says this is old news.

by dick on Jul 21, 2010 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

The real serious question here is this:

If Marcel D. is declared an ineligible player, then Alabama played an ineligible player in the MNC game, then Alabama would have to forfiet the game … am I right or am I right?

by dasmithjones on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like the incident in question happened earlier this summer which would put it after the game.

by TexasFan101 on Jul 21, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Dareus was partying down earlier this summer so retroactive ineligibility ain’t gonna happen. But for once, they’re looking into this shit before those involved jump to the NFL. Now Bama has to consider their use of Dareus this season or risk vacating wins (something they should think twice about if they really expect this season to be a repeat).

by Magnificent Bastard on Jul 21, 2010 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Agree that Saban is full of it. Why then wouldn’t the NFL just start allowing underclassmen into the draft? I’ll bet many underclassmen would love to finish their college years with NFL Europe Redux. Saban should get his house in order before he shifts blame elsewhere with empty threats.

by Question on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Forfeit? We don’t need no stinkin’ forfeit.

by il cativo on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

That said, the NFLPA should and hopefully will look into this stuff.

by Question on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

that’s funny

by ballrific on Jul 21, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

If we could work with Stalin to beat the Nazis, we can work with Saban to defeat the agents.

by Woody Bombay on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

the NCAA should look into the Julio Jones and Trent Richardson ‘recruitments’

by a little birdie on Jul 21, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

“Why wouldn’t the NFL just let underclassmen into the draft?”

Don’t pretend this rule is about protecting the NCAA it’s not, it’s about protecting the bottom line of NFL teams who would be dropping millions of guaranteed money on players they have only evaluated for 1 year. There already are enough Jamarcus Russell/ Ryan Leaf / Tim Teebow busts in the NFL. Just think what will happen if they lower the draft eligible age.

To underscore the point is that the rule was adopted in response to “gotta get my goose on” Maurice Clarett. ( It didn’t work he was still a bust). But he would have been a first round bust without the rule.

There is no altruism in professional sports despite all the United Way ads.

by Roach on Jul 21, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Actually, the rule wasn’t adopted because of Clarett, but he did challenge it.

Just to clarify.

by Roach on Jul 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

“If Marcel D. is declared an ineligible player, then Alabama played an ineligible player in the MNC game, then Alabama would have to forfeit the game … am I right or am I right?”

You are not right. Alabama would have to vacate the win. Bama didn’t win, but Texas still lost (if that makes any sense).

“the NCAA should look into the Julio Jones and Trent Richardson ‘recruitments’”

Funny story about Julio Jones’ recruitment. As of the night before signing day, the OU coaching staff was convinced they had his commitment. And they were absolutely stunned when he signed with Bama. Something tells me this surprise makes sense now.

by NateHeupel on Jul 21, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

That must have been one heck of a bidding war.

by dick on Jul 21, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Nick Saban spent his whole time at the SEC media day blasting agents and playing the victim.

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 21, 2010 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Saban’s position is a bit like a guy closing his eyes and demanding that someone else turn on the lights.

by BEHorn on Jul 21, 2010 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

“You are not right. Alabama would have to vacate the win. Bama didn’t win, but Texas still lost (if that makes any sense).”

Fair enough, they would vacate. And if any contact with said agent took place prior to the MNC game the the proverbial SHITE would no doubt immediately vacate a certain dimunitive person’s bowels and proceed directly to the nearest 10,000 fans. And there are no doubt a lot of fans in Bama Land.

by dasmithjones on Jul 21, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like Dareus is set to be ruled ineligible and Richardson is being targeted for investigation. Per Dennis Dodd?

by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Jul 21, 2010 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Dodd got that from a Bama sports site. It seems to be pretty cut and dry on Dareus, he either went to the party or he didn’t. Depending on how much the “lying to investigators” affected the Dez Bryant situation, he could be done for the year regardless of his cooperation.

5 offseasons of recruiting infractions out of 18 for Bama according to an article. That’s quite a streak.

by dick on Jul 21, 2010 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

"If Marcel D. is declared an ineligible player, then Alabama played an ineligible player in the MNC game, then Alabama would have to forfeit the game … am I right or am I right?"

…and Boise State will be declared the Champs. Almost just as bad.

by LeaveItToStever on Jul 21, 2010 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Guys – the party was in the summer.
 
Ineligibilty isn’t retroactive.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 21, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like Georgia’s next on the NCAA’s tour of the SEC.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/07/21/georgia.investigation/index.html

by Kilgore Trout on Jul 21, 2010 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Last ditch effort at legitimacy by the NCAA before the Superconferences tell them to fuck off? They’ve been awful salty lately.

by Vegas Kyle on Jul 21, 2010 11:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Nick Saban is such a fucking douche bag. Have you ever seen such a miserable looking prick in your life? It must be a “joy” to play for this guy.

by yojimbox on Jul 21, 2010 11:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Have the SEC schools (uncharacteristically for them) started rattng each other out? Sounds like the SWC in the ’80s.

by TaylorTRoom on Jul 22, 2010 6:39 AM CDT reply actions  

What do super conferences have to do with anything? If there are 2 conferences or 30, the NCAA can still ban post season play, stop a school from being on TV, or reduce scholarships (among other things).

Maybe the compliance office is just growing a pair.

by UT-06 on Jul 22, 2010 8:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Roach – I’m aware of the reasoning for the rule and I don’t mean to suggest the NFL is a charity. But, I note that as rookie salaries are being rethought, opening the NFL to underclassmen becomes much more feasible and, maybe, desirable.

To be clear, I really think the NFL and the NCAA will be on the same side of the issue of agent reps tampering with amateurs. But, if they aren’t, the NFL holds the trump card$.

Sort of an aside – worthless Mel Kiper has been running his mouth about this. He advocated allowing players to sign with NFL teams out of high school. When asked the obvious question about throwing all this in the laps of high school coaches, he just said nothing would be perfect. What a hack! And he also thinks vacating wins and retroactive ineligibility make no sense as NCAA punishments. I’m sure Reggie fully agrees with this moron.

by Question on Jul 22, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Signing players right out of high school? Really?

If the NFL thinks it has a problem with head trauma now, just take Mel’s advice.

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