2010 Manning Passing Academy Reviews Are In
I've been cobbling together some interesting stuff from the recent Manning Camp Passing Academy in which top college quarterbacks get together to learn, compete, and show off their wares for the NFL scouts and media.
Some names you may recognize:
Stanford's Andrew Luck, Florida State's Christian Ponder, TCU's Andy Dalton, Tennessee's Matt Simms (yep, Chris' brother, transfer from Louisville via JUCO), Houston's Case Keenum, Boise State's Kellen Moore, Texas A&M's Jerrod Johnson, LSU's Jordan Jefferson, Alabama's Greg McElroy, and T.J. Yates of North Carolina, Nevada's Colin Kaepernick.
Ryan Mallet, Jacory Harris, Jake Locker, and Terrelle Pryor were all invited but didn't attend.
I also saw a breakdown of the camp on College Football Live from Jesse Palmer, the poor man's Herbstreit.
Some observations that were made by multiple folks:
- Luck was the #1 NFL prospect in attendance. He's pretty much the NFL prototype. 6-4 235, good arm, quick release, very mobile. A NFL scout in attendance called him "a bigger Drew Brees" which means what, exactly? He's freakishly accurate and mobile, but 4 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier?
- Nevada's Colin Kaepernick had the strongest arm in camp. Interesting.
- Matt Simms had the second best arm.
- Andy Dalton received nice reviews. Would you entrust your franchise to a ginger?
- Virginia Tech's Tyrod Taylor received raves for...his basketball dunks. Which sums up all you need to know about Tyrod Taylor.
- Jerrod Johnson is really well put together and athletic, but his arm strength was apparently underwhelming. Jesse Palmer made specific mention of this on College Football Live. Johnson won last year's Air It Out competition, though.
- Very little said about Greg McElroy beyond his aura of winningness and other assorted stupidity.
- Taylor Potts won the 2010 Air It Out competition, beating out Matt Simms. If Texas Tech starts any golf carts with targets on them at wideout this year, Potts will hit them with unerring accuracy. He can also get you a deal on some dry wall work.
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I'm intrigued by Colin Kaepernick. He is a 2,000/1,000 pass/rush guy in the Nevada pistol offense and though you'll hear the inevitable Vince Young comparisons, Randall Cunningham is the better comparator. Like Randall, he has a huge arm, plays at an off-the-map school in Nevada (Nevada-Reno instead of UNLV), has a 6-5 skinny frame, and he glides all over the field. I've watched him play a few times and always liked him, but he has never had quality wide receivers and his OL is always outmatched against the big boys.
Jerrod Johnson is apparently a really good kid:
Truth be told, [Jerrod] Johnson speaks better than almost every college guy I've ever covered; he is a better speaker than most of the coaches and most of us who cover them, too. Listening to him talk about how he had to mature after his father, a former Aggies' receiver-turned-school principal, died, you find yourself thinking about how proud his family must be about how he's turned out. He walked back to his seat to applause. I felt bad for the guys who had to speak after him.
It's more enjoyable when the QB at OU or A&M is a turd, but I'll be pulling for Jerrod Johnson on any day he's not playing Texas.
Kellen Moore will finish this year his career as the winningest QB in college football history. And won't play a down in the NFL.
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Kellen Moore is going to win 21 games this year?
by Betelguise on Jul 21, 2010 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
Finish his career, I meant. He’s a junior.
You get the point.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 21, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
I thought I heard last season that Kaepernick can throw a baseball at 90 mph, which might offer some insight into his arm…
by Bob in Houston on Jul 21, 2010 5:44 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know where are the weak arm stuff is coming from on Jerrod. He excels on deep throws. It is the underneath stuff where he struggled last year (accuracy or threw them too hard).
by Kilgore Trout on Jul 21, 2010 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
Count me among those that will be rooting for Jerrod Johnson in every game but the one on Thanksgiving. I love the way he carries himself off the field, and at times last year he looked like an all-american. Of course, he disappeared at times as well. It will be interesting to see if he can maintain a high level of play this year, especially with two freshman tackles and an atrocious defense.
by misterloki on Jul 21, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
Define deep throw, Kilgore.
A weak arm doesn’t mean you don’t throw a nice deep ball. Major Applewhite threw a nice deep ball.
They’re talking about 20 yard outs.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 21, 2010 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
Not that I lament our QB situation, but why didn’t we pursue Luck when he came out of Houston? Did he have no interest? Or did we already know GG was coming? Or did we just screw up?
by Beeman on Jul 21, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
According to his Rivals page, Luck had offers from Stanford, Northwestern, OK State, Purdue Rice, and Virginia. It also states that they rated him as the 4th best QB in the nation, 68th best player overall. The previous two sentences seem incongruous to me.
by misterloki on Jul 21, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions
Dude, that Luck dude was not uh interes..interest..interested! in us, hawwww.
by Jeff Spicoli on Jul 21, 2010 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
A. My understanding is Luck had zero interest in UT. And despite the presence of Ok.st. (And to a lesser degree Purdue) on that list he was looking for an Ivy-esque education, minus the no scholarship thing.
B. Does Jerrod Johnson have intangibles? Put in the extra work in the film room? Show high “football IQ”? Is he a gamer?
Wait, are we talking about Johnson or Ed McCaffery?
by Stereotypes on Jul 21, 2010 7:44 PM CDT reply actions
damnit, i can’t dislike JJ. I heard his dad’s funeral was packed and pretty emotional. Must have been a good dude, no wonder JJ has turned out so well as a young man.
Andrew Luck never had any interest in us. I think his daddy supported all his kids getting away from home. Oliver just left the Houston Dynamo (was very successful with them) and went back to WVU (his alma mater) as the new AD. I probably would have taken A Luck over Bradford last year in the draft, no knock on Sam. As a frosh, he certainly looked the part.
by dick on Jul 21, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions
Scipio, I love your stuff, but this has to be one of the most near sighted articles uve ever written.
Kellen Moore is the next Philip Rivers… yes, he is one of the to 4 best QBs in college football this year and deserves to become the winningist qb ever. I know im prolly the only one in Texas who has seen him play at least 10-12 times, but dont underestimate this stud
Been watching Colin Kaepernick since he was a fish… where the heck have yall been at? Dude has a gun for an arm but is the least accurate QB this side of the Mississippi. There is no way he makes it in the NFL… prolly wont even get drafted till the supplemental draft. (A wiry verson of Jevan Snead).
JJ is a GREAT QB. I firmly believe that if he improves his arm strength, he might be better than VY in the NFL.
PS – Andy Dalton is a terrible terrible QB. Worst QB to make the cover of Dave Campbells TX football in the past 2 decades…. lmao at people who think hes better than Riley Dodge
by Year of the QB on Jul 21, 2010 8:40 PM CDT reply actions
I will pull against Jerrod Johnson hard enough to counterbalance the rest of you sappy fucks.
by nordberg on Jul 21, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions
“Kellen Moore is the next Philip Rivers”
I don’t think this is true.
by nordberg on Jul 21, 2010 8:47 PM CDT reply actions
I can tell y’all JJ is everything that article suggests and more. I’ve had the pleasure of getting to know him over the last 7 years (I have nephews and nieces who went to Humble High and St. Mary’s with him – yeah, he’s the rare black Catholic) and he is first rate. “Yes sir” – “no sir” all the time. Hard worker – dedicated – well spoken. He’s the kind of kid you want to succeed no matter what.
by Ag_in_TX on Jul 21, 2010 9:13 PM CDT reply actions
“If Texas Tech starts any golf carts with targets on them at wideout this year, Potts will hit them with unerring accuracy.”
Golf cart, schmolf cart. If he can’t connect with a receiver on a bass boat traveling parallel to the shore line at 45 MPH, who cares?
I, too, will be watching Jerrod Johnson with interest this fall. Which is to say, I’m interested in seeing if his offensive line gives him time to operate, of if he’ll spend the entire season running for his life.
by Orange Marrow on Jul 21, 2010 9:23 PM CDT reply actions
Year of the QB –
Near sighted? You can only see this article up close?
Philip Rivers is a 6-5 guy with a good arm who played against legitimate athletes almost every week in college. Kellen Moore is a 5-11 weak armed guy in a great offense where 80% of his opponents are the teams Texas schedules to beat by 55. I offered no opinion on Kellen’s deservingness. However, he has no NFL future. None.
Colin Kaepernick may share some of Snead’s accuracy issues, but he’s a lot better runner. And a lot of Snead’s problems were between his ears. I don’t know CK well enough to opine on that.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 21, 2010 9:28 PM CDT reply actions
Whoever ends up drafting Kellen Moore is a fucking idiot. Dude gets all day to stand back there throwing against some weak ass “college” defenses. The only times he ever plays against a decent defense (TCU, Oregon) he can’t see the end zone. And scouts actually have this guy as a late 1st, 2nd pick. Holy crap.
by yojimbox on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
Jerrod sometimes has a long windup but I have never known him to have a weak arm. Putting too much on short passes was more the issue last year.
by Kilgore Trout on Jul 21, 2010 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
Virginia Tech will end any thoughts that Kellen Moore is an elite QB. I am thinking that game turns out a lot like the game when Boise St. went down to Georgia several years ago.
by A-Tex Devil on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
“Putting too much on short passes was more the issue last year.”
That’s not a little problem. I remember Reggie having that issue as well and he never got past it. JJ’s got the size and enough athleticism to be good, needs to work on the NFL passing tree to move up in the draft. He’s probably 2nd day right now and could easily get into the 1st if he gets better at those throws.
That Boise/VT game will be interesting. Think VT is only favored by 3.
by dick on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
@ Ag in TX….rare black catholic?….have you been to SE Texas or Louisiana?
I think that Year of the QB was purposefully making statements that were the exact opposite of what he truly believes. That or he thinks we’re talking about futbol.
by thestos on Jul 21, 2010 11:10 PM CDT reply actions
I think he has improved on the short throw accuracy and touch. Deep outs are not his best throws, but he throws a beautiful long ball. If our freshman tackles give him time I expect a very good year.
by Kilgore Trout on Jul 21, 2010 11:11 PM CDT reply actions
Jerrod is as quality a human being as can be found. Represents his family well.
He also isn’t going to wow anybody with his 20 yard out – with that long wind up, he just doesn’t put the rpm’s on the ball other guys do. Still can make all the throws, but scouts will probably be surprised when they see a 6’5" great athlete and a B- arm.
I’m not going to bet against him being an NFL qb though.
by bizzle on Jul 21, 2010 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
Sure JJ’s great on his own merits, but what makes him really stand out is when you compare him to the guy that preceded him.
by magnusbleuveigner on Jul 22, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions
If you make Phil Rivers 6 inches shorter and 40 lbs lighter and replace deep balls and outs in his playbook with 5 yard hitches, misdirection, throwback & tunnel screens and options then he is a very good comparison to Kellen Moore.
by Fray Marcos on Jul 22, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
Year of the QB,
Mark Ferris disagrees with you
by Hornmatic on Jul 22, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions
Count me as another Horn who is pulling for JJ. I was at Humble when his dad was a coach there. Typical high school hard ass, but overall pretty good and fair guy.
by Horncasting on Jul 22, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
“I have nephews and nieces who went to Humble High and St. Mary’s with him – yeah, he’s the rare black Catholic.”
Does St. Mary’s still have Saturday night dances? Good times in middle school…
by sunburnt orange on Jul 22, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
Kellen Moore is one of the least talented players I’ve ever seen. He takes the snap, sits in the pocket for 5 seconds, takes a piss, checks his ugly ass out in the mirror, scrambles out of the pocket with nobody anywhere near him, ponders the meaning of life, gazes at the stars, and finally dumps the ball off 10 yards down the field to a completely uncovered receiver who bolts 80 yards for a TD. And he’s FUGLY!
by Blake B on Jul 22, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions
Kaepernick is the kind of kid every dad wants his son to be. Great student, extremely hard worker and a very humble young man. I got to know him during his sophomore year and no matter how much press or TV time, always is polite and grounded. Give him a better receiving core and good offensive line and I think his numbers will go through the roof. He still has an amazing 61-16 touchdown to interception ratio through his first three years. He is 6-6 220, has a canon for an arm and runs a 4.3 forty. And yes, the scouts love him. If he has a big year, they say he will go late first to early second in next years draft.
by GoPack on Jul 27, 2010 12:54 AM CDT reply actions

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