Roil Tide
The usually defense-minded Nick Saban went on the offense this week trying his best to weed out the unscrupulous elements of college football. Very noble. He's just doing his best, you know, for the kids. Like Jerry Lewis.
"I have no respect for people who do that to young people. None. How would you feel if they did it to your child?"
I think we can all agree and sympathize with Nick. It's hard out here for a pimp.
"I don't think it's anything but greed that's creating it right now on behalf of the agents. "The agents that do this – and I hate to say this, but how are they any better than a pimp?"
Oh, wait, Nick's not the pimp, the "bad" agents are. OK, got it.
Does the average fan accept the assumption that Bama is "dirty"? That the SEC is rife with illegal recruiting? In my experience, my friends who are Alabama fans do.
If so, and if it's true, is there anything funnier than Nick Saban bitching about NFL people illegally recruiting the people who were illegally recruited to go to Alabama?
Can we get some of Bama's players on the line and discuss their patron friends at the Red Elephant Club?
I like a club who describes itself as...
...an elite group of individuals who will support the University of Alabama Football Program enthusiastically and wholeheartedly in a manner that will showcase our first class organization displaying the pride and tradition of the University of Alabama. We will provide donations to assist with funding football scholarships. We will strive to support our current and former football athletes as well as our football coaching staff in any possible way. We will assist current players with appropriate summer employment, preferably relevant to their chosen field of study.
If you believe what you hear, over and over again, Nick has one of the best oiled college football machines in America. The results are certainly there.
Enter Ralph Cindrich, former NFL player and agent to 27 Pro Bowlers and 20 first round picks. Ralph finds Nick's comments to be disingenuous at best.
Initially Ralph hit the gas on his Twitter account (@RalphCindrich).
"Before Saban hurls insults at agents he best check to see the dirt they have on him. He's as clean as a bed bug. Starts in college."
Awesome. He then pulled out Occam's Straight Razor and started slicing the credulous and gullible into small pieces.
"You have to not want to know. All you have to do is walk out in the parking lot or look at the 'bling' or have someone visit their room."
These are interesting times in the land of college sports, recruiting, agents (street and office) and the NCAA and we'll be exploring this in the coming months as FanTake gets rolling.
And by the way, what is up with this new NCAA? Why are they gunning for big time football now? What has changed? Will they apply the same stern hand to college hoops which is a pond with a very thick scum meniscus across it?
I think this has something to do with the March Madness franchise. If the NCAA loses relevance in a Super Conference world, they may lose ultimately that cash cow.
Just spitballin' here. But Nick Saban striking a pose of the aggrieved was too good to pass up.
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Well done. It’s like Goodell is in charge of the NCAA right now. Works for me.
Trent Richardson is the new Reggie Bush. Will it take the NCAA five years to find this out?
by magnusbleuveigner on Jul 23, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions
I have a friend who interviewed with Saban @ Alabama. He said people would flinch when they saw him coming down the hall. Also said Jimbo Fisher had to go on anti-depressants after working for him. He didn’t take the job as he had too many coaching friends call to warn him.
by Kilgore Trout on Jul 23, 2010 8:48 PM CDT reply actions
I have literally heard directly from Alabama assistants that they could “take care of ACT” scores when speaking to a recruit on a high school campus.
Nick Saban does not want the NCAA looking at his books.
by Newy25 on Jul 23, 2010 9:10 PM CDT reply actions
is there anything funnier than Nick Saban bitching about NFL people illegally recruiting the people who were illegally recruited to go to Alabama?
Maybe not funnier, but the way the media deitized Saban during this rant was comical. Think people.
by Matt Cotcher on Jul 23, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
I happen to think Saban is a PR genius on this. He inflames the Bama true believers - getting them lathered up to go after the agents with pitchforks and torches. He takes the light off of the player-who certainly should know better—and turns it on the agents and the NFL…speaking of which…Saban says
Let’s just throw the NFL out. Don’t let them evaluate players. Don’t let them talk to players. Let them do it at the combine.’ If they are not going to help us, why should we help them?"
Again a brilliant move, acting as if he has the answer to the problem — knowing full well that he spends each and every trip in a recruits home extolling Alabama asTHE place best to prepare said recruit for a career in …the NFL.
And by the way, what is up with this new NCAA? Why are they gunning for big time football now? What has changed? Will they apply the same stern hand to college hoops which is a pond with a very thick scum meniscus across it?
Uh no.
College hoops is indeed a pond with a very thick scum neiscus across it, but it is the NCAA’s money pond, and they would just as soon leave that alone.
Football? They simply get protection money, pocket change, so they are willing to be a little more vigilent in that area. They don’t have access to the money or the real power in college football, so they try to throw what little weight they have around.
by srr50 on Jul 23, 2010 10:45 PM CDT reply actions
srr – that hoops stuff was somewhat rhetorical and tongue in cheek. The hoops deal is obviously the sine qua non of the NCAA’s existence.
My question is what has caused them to start jabbing sticks into the eyes of the big boys of college football. I’m not trying to go full Jim Garrison but it seems like you can connect a few dots and see this as a response to wanting keep the conferences together under the ostensible purview of the NCAA.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 24, 2010 1:03 AM CDT reply actions
I don’t think it’s coincidence that the NCAA has strated to flex it’s muscles over college football right at the point that potential superconference’s and their TV contracts threaten both the relevance of the institution as a policeman (ha ha ha ha) and from a TV money standpoint.
“Oh, you think you kids are to big for me to handle? I’ll fucking show you whose the boss. You tell them boys at ESPN and Fox I’m calling the shots.”
by Bateshorn on Jul 24, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions
Sailor: I’m just thinking cyberly here.
Let’s say the NCAA perceives that the BCS schools really are thinking about how they can break away (which some people probably are from time to time). As we know, this would destroy the NCAA, as March Madness would evaporate and the money that funds all the operations and championships would go with it — enough that the organization would be a shell of itself.
What is the best way to reemphasize to these schools that there is more to running a college sports oversight organization than raking in money? It’s by showing them that if you’re in charge, you have to have rules and try to implement them. If the BCS schools want to take over and, um, loosen the regulations (such that, say, the Red Elephant Club would be quite pleased), it’s going to lead places where the NCAA members decided they’d rather not go. These things are going to become public, alums of aggrieved schools will be ticked off, and, well, maybe, government may step in to limit the new enterprise. You’re not going to make the money you thought you would make, because maybe your massive income will get taxed like — dare I say it? — a business.
Better to stay with what you have. The grass isn’t always greener.
Could be wrong though. Often have been.
by Bob in Houston on Jul 24, 2010 2:22 PM CDT reply actions
The force is strong with this post. I hope Saban gets crushed and Bama ends up on major probation again. As an aside I will post this video documenting Alabama’s propensity to embellish their achievements just to piss Bama fan off even more.
by maninblack on Jul 24, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
NCAA probation isn’t Saban’s style. Alabama hired him because he’s one of a few coaches who boosters actually fear. Nick’s in charge. First Alabama coach who can say that since Bryant.
As for pimp-irony, you missed the obvious — a coach getting $4 mill a year to direct the non-academic activities of very large and fast students on a college campus. Kids do all the work. Coach gets all the cash. Now THAT’s a pimp.
by Saban-Logic on Jul 26, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions

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