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Big 12 Media Day: Mike Sherman

When will that Mike Sherman picture get played out?

When it stops making me laugh. And that means never.

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Unfortunately, Mike Sherman is a pretty good guy. It's more fun when the Aggies are coached by a boil on humanity like Jackie Sherrill, so I can really get the hate on, but Sherm is a kindly avuncular sort: a man you can picture napping amiably on a lawn chair, being trod upon by squirrels, a melting popsicle clutched in his paw.

And that's just his recruiting in-home visits.

Nowadays, I have to go to Bill Byrne when I want to drink deep from the crazy Aggie well.

I mentioned that Sherman is a good guy and I mean it, but he's a tedious sonofabitch. Ask him a simple question and you're going to get seventeen paragraphs out of him.

My vision of hell is having to continuously ask road directions from Mike Sherman and Craig Way.

REPORTER: With Nebraska leaving, there's sort of a void at the top in terms of marquee flagship programs in the Big 12. How close is A&M to stepping into that void and becoming what A&M football used to be?

Awesome question. Or another way of putting it: Nebraska has been a virtual non-entity for the last five years. Is Texas A&M prepared to fill those shoes?

Well, certainly in our fan base, our former students dream of the days of the mid-'80s and '90s where we were that marquee type of team.

No. No. No. This is a common Aggie belief and reveals the inherent danger of a school measuring all things by Texas. Because when Texas is bad, the measure loses all meaning. In fact, it implies an inherent assumption that Texas will always be better. Which presumably Aggies should not like.

A&M wasn't a marquee team. A&M was a big fish in a small pond. A regional bully. When they played the real marquee programs of that time, they lost. The SWC was a decayed ball of suck.

A marquee doesn't have 15 names on it. It has 2-3. You weren't on that sign. Neither were we.

Unless Sherman was referring to Biz Markie.

I think the Big 12 needs A&M to step up to the plate, to answer your question, and be that type of team. We're ready to accept that challenge.

Amen. As it stands now, this league is a big shit sandwich. Am I the only person who will say this? Or have we all decided to endorse the lie that playing in the Big 12 is going to be fun in 2011 because we get more TV money we don't need?

Switching gears...

I think the biggest challenge a quarterback has coming back, not only a quarterback but his coach, is that we don't clutter his mind and he doesn't clutter his mind with too much stuff and not allowing him to be the quarterback that he's able to be. Because he's so dang smart, there's a tendency to put a lot on him, and eventually it becomes stagnant, and he becomes unable to do the things that he's been gifted to do.

I like this point and I'm actually working on a piece about this for FanTake.com. There is no doubt that intelligence can cripple athletic performance.

He's always looking for clues; that he doesn't see ghosts out there that are going to make him see something that's not there. Because he's so dang bright about things, sometimes he can see things or anticipate things that aren't happening.

Oh my God. Jerrod Johnson has a poltergeist! Or he is experiencing psychotic episodes. Barbara Hershey in The Entity, IMO.

He has to let the system work for him instead of him work the system.

I love when Sherman talks in 1970s EST cliche terminology mixed with stuff from AA, Jenny Craig, and The Secret.

You working the system, turkey! Like the suckers! The squares, man. Like the pigs. Let's get our head space together, Jerrod! Let's get real or real will get you. Dig? System work you, baby. You a Capricorn, baby, you can do this. Tighten up.

In order for us to be successful on offense, the offensive line has to click.

Very true.

I anticipate with six incoming freshmen on the offensive line, at least three of those guys will be either playing or starting for us at some time.

Ho. Lee. Shit.

Even though they lack experience, it's more fun than working with someone who's not quite as talented that has the experience.

This is also true for women.

Luke Joeckel came out of spring football as a guy that held down his position at left tackle and did a fine job for us.

So don't heckle Luke Joeckel.

Sherman starts talking about the A&M defense and I actually laughed out loud at his phrasing...

You know, when I first took the job at A&M, I had hired Reggie Herring, who was at Arkansas at the time, to come in and put the three-four defense in. Reggie, before spring ball, went to the Dallas Cowboys as their linebacker coach.

The best coach I could find at that time-- and one of the best coaches, assistant coordinators in college football is Joe Kines.

The best coach I could find at the time -

Why did you marry Sue? Well, it was midnight, the wife I wanted left me, I was at Wal-Mart, I had put on seventy pounds, she was the best wife I could find at the time - sigh - (snaps back into recognition that he's at a press conference).... but she's wonderful!

He has a bold reputation.

I knooooow you've got a bold reputation. And it isn't just talk, talk, talk.

Joe Kines - BOLD REPUTATION. Don't you dare dare Joe Kines to climb the Bryan water tower in a singlet.

I wanted to get back to a three-four defense because I think we can recruit to that structure. A&M has a history in the three-four defense.

This is actually a great move for A&M and a smart one in terms of recruiting. It's a way to recruit good players to a system while avoiding head-to-head battles with Texas and OU.

So ends our time with our agrarian cousins.

If you didn't like it, Highway 6 runs both ways, sips.

WhOOOOoooooP!

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You working the system, turkey! Like the suckers! The squares, man. Like the pigs. Let’s get our head space together, Jerrod! Let’s get real or real will get you. Dig? System work you, baby. You a Capricorn, baby, you can do this. Tighten up.

cannot stop laughing at this

by Hookah Horns on Jul 26, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Gold.

by RomaVicta on Jul 27, 2010 12:25 AM CDT reply actions  

I’d like to hang with Freedy Johnston.

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 27, 2010 1:54 AM CDT reply actions  

in soviet russia, system work YOU!

by scagnetti on Jul 27, 2010 3:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Whoever the ags get to replace Sherman in 3 years is going to inherit one hell of an offensive line. Assuming no body transfers that is.

by Flamingmonkeyass on Jul 27, 2010 4:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Before he leaves, Sherman will probably have as many wins against Texas as Franny. This year is will likely give him one of those two wins.

And Scipio is right, Texas will be bad again. Most likely as soon as MB leaves the pattern will repeat itself.

by Whistling on Jul 27, 2010 6:17 AM CDT reply actions  

A recent Rivals article listing major scheme changes in 2010 surprised me- there are a boatload of teams switching to 3 – 4 defenses this year-

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1100552

ND, TAMU, UH, Georgia, and Georgia Tech, with Michigan going to a 3 – 3 – 5.

by TaylorTRoom on Jul 27, 2010 6:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I think we might have hired the Kennebunkport, Maine librarian (winter months) as our head coach.

Great stuff, Scip.

by ColoradoAg on Jul 27, 2010 7:21 AM CDT reply actions  

My vision of hell is having to continuously ask road directions from Mike Sherman and Craig Way.

Ha. That’s a post unto itself.

by Vasherized on Jul 27, 2010 7:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Is Ho Lee Shit starting at left or right tackle?

by Magnificent Bastard on Jul 27, 2010 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I too agree with the premise that many college coaches “over coach” the QB. The best move Greg Davis ever made was getting the hell out of the way of Vince Young.

I have mixed feelings about the Joeckle kid at left tackle. I saw him play several times as a junior and simply was not impressed. I saw some marginal D-1/D-1AA DE prospects just whip his ass. That being said, I only saw one game of his senior year and he was good, but it was a lesser opponent.

Does he have the tools to great. Absolutely. Will he get better coaching from a former NFL offenseive line coach than he did at Arlington High? Oh hell yes.

We knew two years ago that, due to Fran’s unnatural man love of DB’s as opposed to OLs, that this year was going to be very thin on the O-line. I hope these fish cna man up. The good news is that A&M is deep enough at the skill positions such that we can shorten up the defense a bit and still be very productive.

by Ag_in_TX on Jul 27, 2010 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

My kingdom for an edit key or the patience to proof read my posts. Shorten up the offense, duh.

by Ag_in_TX on Jul 27, 2010 7:44 AM CDT reply actions  

“And Scipio is right, Texas will be bad again. Most likely as soon as MB leaves the pattern will repeat itself.”

What pattern?

by nordberg on Jul 27, 2010 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

This interview says it all about Joe Kines:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkNT28g6YBU

by TangentOrange on Jul 27, 2010 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I’ve been to the Kennebunk library. College Station is a DRAMATIC step down. Even in the winter.

by BatesHorn on Jul 27, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Even though they lack experience, it’s more fun than working with someone who’s not quite as talented that has the experience.

This is also true for women.

Agreed. Great Stuff.

by gingerballs on Jul 27, 2010 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

“Well, certainly in our fan base, our former students dream of the days of the mid-’80s and ’90s where we were that marquee type of team.”

Who wouldn’t dream of the days when you could send a cash stuffed package via Fedex to a top recruits home and have them sign with your team? Sorry Aggies the Fedex thing doesn’t work any more, if you want to get back to the success of the “mid-’80s and ’90s” you’re going to have to play the dirty agent game.

by Tim on Jul 27, 2010 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

“Nowadays, I have to go to Bill Byrne when I want to drink deep from the crazy Aggie well. "

You got any extra of that maroon drank?

by Johnnt Jolley on Jul 27, 2010 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Johnnt Jolley

Way to go, that joke almost got off the ground.

And nordberg, the cycle we are referring to is when texas-austin declines A&M will improve (just like it was in the 80s and 90s). This will most likely coincide with Mack’s leaving and Coach Boom taking over. There’s nothing you can do about it, it is inevitable. It has already begun as t.u. is on the down slide (you won’t be nat’l champ contenders this year, looking at 4 or more possible losses) and we are looking to take the conference championship either this year or next (or both).

by reality_not _allowed on Jul 27, 2010 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh Jeebus.

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 27, 2010 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

The best coach I could find at that time…is Joe Kines.

Yeah, I would have to give that one a Ho. Lee. Fuck.

Life wouldn’t be complete if we couldn’t make sport of the ags. You can’t make this shit up.

by Blueshorn on Jul 27, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Coach Sherman taking nap. A SIDE NOTE:
I had a co-worker that would at times take a nap between meetings. It was rare and he worked long hours. I did not understand the nap times. HOWEVER, I did learn later that he was a diabetic and took medicine for the diease. IF the routing of taking medicine was not taken at normal times it would cause him to become very sleepy during the day. Just an FYI… However, I would find a room not sit on the bleachers…..

by striker on Jul 27, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

If we could only sign defensive lineman who are as talented as the ones we have signed on the O-line we would be getting somewhere. We got Ben Bass back from grade induced exile and they are trying some guys out at noseguard who if nothing else are large (Jarvis Harrison, Rhontae Scales). Our current model (at least on defense) is having to find and develop under the radar guys a la TCU, since we don’t seem to be winning many head to heads with Mack, Stoops, or Mile$. I think Lester only lasts maybe 1 more season in the bayou as the natives have figured out he is a lucky idiot who can recruit.

by Kilgore Trout on Jul 27, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Aggies! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

by Monahorns on Jul 27, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Is there some kind of class I can take where I can better learn to detect internet sarcasm? I mean, anyone who says that our program is on a downward slide has to be full of shit, right?

by nordberg on Jul 27, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I didn’t ha ha ha ha at aggies in the 80s. I mostly hid from them. I even scraped my Texas stickers off my cars. It was unbearable and I dread when it happens again in the next few years.

by Whistling on Jul 27, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

@reality_not_allowed

I am sorry that I have to be the one to break this news to you, but this is imporant for your own well-being, so please take note. What you are experiencing right now are delusions of grandeur. Imagination as a state of mind lacking rational thought causes self deception and false belief. It is of the utmost importance that you realize that your imagination must be controlled by rational thought processes. Only then will you understand that your imagination can make you believe something is real when it is not.
Other Aggie Lurkers, please take heed of this advice.

by Reality Check on Jul 27, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Reality Check, this happens every year during this time of year. Then reality comes crashing down in September-November. That is a pattern you can count on.

by Monahorns on Jul 27, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Somebody please please post the old Aggie Optimism chart. I forget who created it but it looks like a graph of stock market returns, and has little comments explaining the peaks and valleys of aggie hopefulness for the season, as a function of time.

by Nero on Jul 27, 2010 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=282520&page=1&forum_id=5

posted 7:36p, 12/01/03
TexAgs in December: “We are full of more holes than a block of swiss cheese. In all likelihood we win 5 games.”

TexAgs in March: “Well, we signed a solid class with some kids that could contribute. Add in the guys that redshirted and we’ll surprise some folks next year. Pencil 7 in the W column for 2004.”

TexAgs in May: “Spring practices went well, and after seeing our squad in action at the Maroon and White Game, we’ve come a long way since the end of last year. I think 9 wins is do-able.”

TexAgs in August: “Everyone really hit the weightroom hard this summer, and the team stayed polished with the voluntary workouts on the practice fields. We are much bigger and faster across the board, and reports from two-a-days are very, very positive. A BCS bowl game is within this team’s grasp.”

Aggies will never change, they are the same in 2010 as they were in 2003.

by Tim on Jul 27, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Why is it so difficult to understand? Aggies…

suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck

The pattern is clear to me.

by Magnificent Bastard on Jul 27, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

We’re not overly optimistic – just relative to the last 2 years we are somewhat optimistic. It’s a relative thing. Everyone drinks the Koolaid this time of year. Just check out a Baylor website.

by Kilgore Trout on Jul 27, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

“I didn’t ha ha ha ha at aggies in the 80s. I mostly hid from them. I even scraped my Texas stickers off my cars. It was unbearable and I dread when it happens again in the next few years.”

Oh gee, this came off so well and seems so believable.

by nordberg on Jul 27, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

It is so funny and ironic that the Aggies think they would be better off in the SEC after last year getting crushed 94-29 by two teams from the lower middle standings of the SEC.

Some how a 6-7 season that featured 4 losses by more than 20 points is an indication that a Big 12 title is coming this year. Amazing.

by UT-06 on Jul 27, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Bill Snyder hung 62 on you BETWEEN naps.

by Harsh Reality on Jul 27, 2010 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Snyder and Sherman in a nap off would be epic.

by Burnt Orange Wookiee on Jul 27, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

After 2 consecutive losing seasons and only 3 winning seasons in the last 8, maybe aggie should try finishing above .500 before they take the leap to elite football status.

Baby steps, aggie, baby steps.

by The Republic on Jul 27, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

think Lester only lasts maybe 1 more season in the bayou as the natives have figured out he is a lucky idiot who can recruit.

As opposed to an unlucky geriatric that can’t?

by Vasherized on Jul 27, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

reality_not _allowed … no shit.

by blackscholes on Jul 27, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Schadenfreude Tuesday. NCAA rules ineligible the Ag’s 32-year old diver, Sherman inadvertently ticks off his staff, and bloated Cody gives Alabama their 1 millionth black eye. (Let’s ignore Kindle falling down Greg Norman’s stairs…)

by C. Weinke and Gerrie Tol on Jul 27, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

With a glimpse back at BC threads from last fall, not only are you reminded that Mike Sherman takes his Metamucil jello shots off of Bill Byrne’s tits, you find indisputable evidence of exuberant Aggie optimism.

Ag_in_TX: “I fully expect the game in Lubbock to be one of A&M’s two losses this season.”

Scipio Tex: "That’s a fairly reasonable bet going into any year.

You have the Ags going 10-2?"

[crosstalk]

Ag_in_TX: "I agree that 8-4 would be pretty much a "meh", at least for me.

Many of my brethern would be very happy, but I would look on it as just a step in the right direction, not really all that much of a success story."

Given the consecutive losses to Arkansas, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State, followed by losses to Colorado and Texas, a safe conclusion is that Aggie pattern trumps Aggie prediction.

by triplehorn on Jul 27, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

There is no doubt that intelligence can cripple athletic performance.

David Foster Wallace got to this from the other side in his essay “How Tracy Austin Broke My Heart” in Consider the Lobster and Other Essays.

Still one of the best things I’ve read on sports and achievement. Guy could write, RIP.

by parlin on Jul 27, 2010 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s a fact that t.u. will be worse this year than last year. You won’t win conference and won’t be in a BCS bowl.

Hence, you are going down hill.

How hard is that to understand?

You will finish with at least 4 losses.

OU, Neb, A&M are certain losses. You’re not looking too good for those early season games with UCLA and TT either. I pedict you’ll lose 1 out of those 2. The horns could lose both. Possibly 5.

Bowl game is no gimmie either, unless you’ve abandoned the “power running” offensive gameplan you’re trying this year to hide Grape’s interceptionitis/fumblitis.

I expect to see much lamenting and blaming of everybody’s good buddy Greg Davis this year.

by reality_not _allowed on Jul 27, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (violent, hysterical laughing) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

by Monahorns on Jul 27, 2010 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

“It’s a fact that t.u. will be worse this year than last year. You won’t win conference and won’t be in a BCS bowl.

Hence, you are going down hill.

How hard is that to understand?"

This sounds like it was written by Ron Burgandy.

It’s science.

by nordberg on Jul 27, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

If an aggy were dumb enough to bet me straight up that we would go 0-3 against OU, NU and aggy this year, I would have to liquidate the kids 529 plans and bet it all on us getting at least 1 win out of those 3 games.

by stuckinmn on Jul 27, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I want my mommy….

by pederast hanrahan on Jul 27, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s fun when new aggies find out about the ol’ barking carnival.

by uthookem on Jul 27, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Lurker -

Let me put it this way. Programs have momentum. We have winning momentum, and what that means is that in a down year, we are likely to end up with a better record than expected, because we know how to win, etc. etc.

A&M has momentum as well, but the wrong kind. More like inertia. Even though you may think your program has a rocket booster strapped to its ass, the aggies are likely to sputter out anyway.

by Nero on Jul 27, 2010 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Who opened the barn door?

by exuLt on Jul 27, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

So if playing in the national championship last year and being widely considered a top 10 team going into this season makes you “on the down slide,” what does the Aggie’s last decade+ of football make them?

by texastough on Jul 27, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

This raises the question I like to ask this time of year: Could the Ludovico technique be successful to break aggy thought patterns and behavioral tendencies? Some combination of footage of Reggie McNeil’s senior season, combined with sheep and pictures of glory holes.

by Cincohorn on Jul 27, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Who woke that bastard up? It sure wasn’t cheers from kyle field……

by derryl on Jul 27, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I do not deny that I drink heavily of the maroon kool aid and think all sorts of good and happy thoughts about my beloved Ags. I also fall deeply in despair too quickly when things don’t go well.

Was I overly optimistic about last season? Hell yes. Am I overly optimistic about this coming season. Very likely, yes. 10-2 MINIMUM BABY!!! BCS BEARTH LIKELY!!!!!! WHOOP!!!!!!!!

So what? As long as I stand by my rule of never betting on the Ags, where’s the harm?

by Ag_in_TX on Jul 28, 2010 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

The best part of this picture? He actually doesn’t have any armrests.

Seriously though, this was really funny. Well done.

by AgAstraPerAspera on Jul 28, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Nero,

We have momentum at Texas, but when on a roll don’t forget that things roll down hill much faster. You are clearly too young to remember the mid-60s, the late 70s, or even the late 80s and early 90s.

Just check the win-loss record with the gomers since our Texas football team was integrated.

by Bill Bixby on Jul 28, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, the aggies have given Garrett a stupid nickname, so I guess he will have to kick their asses like Chrissy and Radio and, eventually, Cart.

by Mister Falcon on Jul 29, 2010 1:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Catching up from last week and just wanted to drop some appreciation on the Freedy Johnston reference. Kicking and Screaming, IMO.

by Goofybevo on Jul 29, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions  

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by Isidro Valado on Aug 1, 2010 12:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Nero said:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:59 pm

Lurker -

Let me put it this way. Programs have momentum. We have winning momentum, and what that means is that in a down year, we are likely to end up with a better record than expected, because we know how to win, etc. etc.

A&M has momentum as well, but the wrong kind. More like inertia. Even though you may think your program has a rocket booster strapped to its ass, the aggies are likely to sputter out anyway.

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