Mondays With Mack
Mack Brown's ESPN charm offensive started early and it never relented. Similar to the Mike Sherman guest host spot during the Lawrence Welk marathon on College Station Public Access television back in May.
Except Brown didn't nap on camera and gorge himself on eclairs.
Mack also knew the names of every person he spoke with, the names and birthdays of their children, and took it upon himself to buy each of them tasteful gifts in anticipation of their birthdays.
Mike And Mike
I've never understood why a simulcast of a radio show is believed to be good television, but here's four hours of it.
Mike Greenberg has well-conditioned hair. Pantene.
Mike Golic likes to state obvious things emphatically.
They backload Mack Brown for the last half hour of their four hour show so they can punish me with major league baseball talk.
Apparently teams that pitch well, field, and can hit for power will be successful in baseball. FYI.
Mack is here! He is wearing a loungy Burnt Orange sweatsuit. Mack praises our handling of the conference realignments, citing his desire to keep old SWC rivalries. Brown was absolutely convinced we were going to the Pac 10. He found out about our decision to stay in the Big 12 minutes before the formal announcement. Mack mentions that only 19 of 128 schools made money last year in football.
Agents. Mack demonstrates more sophistication in discussing the agent situation than any of the SEC coaches or most of the media I've heard. He mentions that there are as many coaches who cheat as there are agents and the minority stains the majority. Hmmm. Also, any kid who claims they didn't know something was an offense is being disingenuous. The rules are drilled into them from the start. Brown knows who the bent agents are because the kids inform him. Runners are approaching our players as early as their freshman and sophomore years. Whether fairly or not, coaches are ultimately responsible for their program and have to own the results, just as you have to own what your own kids do.
Mack then heaps praise on Roger Goodell ("a man of integrity") and the NFL. Mack manages to come off as a guy in total control of his program, but burns no bridges with the NFL and agents. Brilliant.
First Take
To get to Mack, I have to endure the diminutive Scoop Jackson and oily Skip Bayless. Bayless offers that TO now stands for Too Old! Get it? At one point he breaks into an embarrassing speech pattern reminiscent of a black preacher to emphasize a point. I get embarrassed when old white men jive, even when it's not my fault.
Scoop Jackson - whose legs do not touch the bottom of his stool - offers that Tom Brady is overrated. Also overrated? Clean drinking water. Antibiotics. The wheel. Jackson mentions that if the St Louis Rams win two games next year instead of one, that's doubling last year's win total!
Thank God, it's Mack Brown. He now sports a burnt orange polo, part of the Longhorn seasonal collection.
ESPN guy proceeds to read same index card from previous interview...
Agent question. Mack reiterates his answer and adds that we spend several days a year training parents and athletes on agents. Again - interestingly - mentions that there are crooked agents AND coaches. A subtle dig.
Realignment. Jesus, these ESPN guys are mailing it in.
Asks about Case McCoy. Mack calls him a winner, similar to Colt. Guaranteeing that I have to read "Mack thinks Case is as good as Colt" takes on the bulletin boards for the next four years.
Ask about Sergio Kindle. Mack mentions that buildings have a history of attacking Sergio unfairly.
Vince Young and Heisman. Now we're getting somewhere. Mack says "if at some point Reggie is no longer the Heisman winner, Vince Young and Texas would be very happy to receive the trophy." Interesting. Looks like Mack changed Vince's mind. I can't wait to see Vince Young join Ricky Williams and Earl Campbell on our Jumbotron pre-game as they transform Longhorn minotaurs into football players with Heisman electricity.
The Herd With Colin Cowherd
What's more compelling than a four hour morning radio simulcast? A three hour radio simulcast.
Colin Cowherd sucks up to Brown from the beginning mentioning he just had the best conversation with a college coach he's ever had.
Asks about transfers, deviating from the ESPN question script. Nicely done, Colin. Brown nails it. I treat our players like my own children. If they're not happy here, it's my job to find them the best place. These are people's lives and it's bigger than the program.
Asks him about Kiffin. Mack relates it to Muschamp, mentioning that he can leave at any time if he so chooses. We don't do buy-outs. The insinuation being: you can't upgrade over Texas.
Asks about realignment, but in terms of long-term viability. Mack mentions that this is the best fit for now. He has a very realistic understanding of what the current Big 12 is.
Cowherd asks about USC probation. What would you do if you saw your player in a nice car? Mack's answer is incredible. We have a bill of sale and a contract on record for every car owned by our players. If we see something out of line, we're having an immediate conversation. Not quite Pete Carroll's stance, is it?
Brown mentions this is a really happy time in his life. He's healthy, he likes the kids in the program right now, his kids are married, and he feels secure. He looks it.
Cowherd asked original questions and the old questions were covered with an interesting twist. Say what you will about Cowherd, but there's a brain and some curiosity about the world there.
Sports Center
Oh, look. An agent question. ##@#%$^%&%$#. Mack nails it again. He'd be a great White House Press Secretary.
Realignment question again. Mack expresses sadness that Nebraska and Colorado are leaving, particularly the Huskers.
Playoffs. An original question. Mack wants them. Let's rate the best 8 and get it on. Absolutely.
Asks about Vince Young and his nightclub fight...
GREATEST ANSWER EVER.
Mack talks to Vince Young weekly. The "so-called brawl." Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn't do that. Mack's body language and expression says - Vince Young was put on earth to smite bitches. If you don't want to get smited, don't be a bitch around him.
About sums it up.
Scott Van Pelt and College Football Live yet to come for Mack Attack....
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I agree that the best advice ever is just not to do the Horns down. Absolutely loved that part! He really classed up the joint.
by Question on Jul 26, 2010 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
You nailed it. The redudancy of the questions is annoying but Mack’s answers almost always come off refreshing and entertaining. Not a lot of talking points, mostly just talking themes. Smarter than the last two presidents we’ve endured no doubt.
One thing that struck me is that he’s always recruiting. Mentioning that we have 50 plus players in the league and access to NFL agents, scouts, and player personnel that is second to none in the college game.
The programs in great hands, and as fans, we owe the man a tremendous debt of gratitude.
by Trips Right on Jul 26, 2010 2:28 PM CDT reply actions
Things like this make me long my undergraduate years, you know back when we were supposed to accept being beaten by Rice.
If I was Tony Hayworth I might just try to pay Mack Brown a cool billion to work for me for the next year or so.
by roach on Jul 26, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
I think i’d believe literally anything that came out of that man’s mouth.
“These are not the droids you’re looking for”.
Okey dokey, move along!
by nordberg on Jul 26, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
Things I learned:
1. Mack lost the Satan hungry hippo match.
2. Texas ditched the P16 for the B12-2 in exchange for the NCAA putting the hammer to dirty programs.
by Olive R. Stone on Jul 26, 2010 2:51 PM CDT reply actions
Bitches must be smote.
Having records on every car owned by the players just leaves me dumbstruck.
by Horncasting on Jul 26, 2010 2:53 PM CDT reply actions
Just wanted to thank you for summarizing all of his appearances. I couldn’t watch on tv, and I haven’t had time to chase down the different espn clips online. The commentary is also a nice value add.
by Reginald Doomsday on Jul 26, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions
“We have a bill of sale and a contract on record for every car owned by our players.”
Damn. This man has it all thought out. I mean all of it.
I suppose if you were in his shoes, and walking around with such a large target on your back (don’t you know that EVERYONE would like to nail Texas to the wall), you’d know how critical it is to head-off potential problems before they start.
by Levander Williams on Jul 26, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions
There are many personality types out there. For every person that likes to bend the rules, there are people like me and my dad who are absolutely completely uncomfortable if we feel like we’re apart of anything shady. I imagine there are recruits out there that like the fact that they can come to Texas and know that if they keep their nose clean, there are rules and guidelines in place to keep them from getting wrapped up in somebody else’s mess. Maybe you don’t get to drive a Benz in college, but smart kids won’t take the chance in messing up their NFL dream by driving one.
Now, if a kid is going to break into somebody’s house on purpose, that’s his own fault. Getting arrested is another subject all together.
by Nero on Jul 26, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
I would have no problem whatsoever if we doubled Mack’s salary to $10 mil/year. The man is solid gold.
by Redfish on Jul 26, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions
Re agents, look what Mack did. In a general way, he turns the spotlight on coaches who collude with agents when players break the rules. But instead of casting aspersions, he gives a specific example of what he does to verify that players’ cars are clean: “We have a bill of sale and a contract on record for every car owned by our players.”
He just served up a litmus test that could easily be applied to all programs targeting one of the most historically appealing gifts siphoned to pigskin toting teenagers -a hot set of wheeelz.
Instead of citing what others are doing wrong with the bile that involves, Mack simply demonstrates what he is doing right to create pressure on others. Hopefully these reporters and others pick this up and advance it with questions to other coaches about whether or not and why they employ this safeguard a way of engaging ‘the agent problem’.
by triplehorn on Jul 26, 2010 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
That’s what I’m thinking, triple.
“C’mon, there’s no way we could have known!”
“Mack Brown would have known.”
by nordberg on Jul 26, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions
Mike And Mike
I’ve never understood why a simulcast of a radio show is believed to be good television, but here’s four hours of it.
I for one like my humor and incite served up with all the subtlety of an anvil to the face. Subversion and wit are overrated.
by t1climb1 on Jul 26, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
Golic starts nearly every sentence with “And again……” Not only is it a verbal crutch, but it’s a warning that he’s about to get redundant (or continue to be so).
Greenberg is a professional and doesn’t let the air go dead, nor does he timewaste with stupid inside jokes that the listener doesn’t get (Houston local sports talk is terrible at this). However, Greenberg will caveat you to death (e.g. "I know you may not agree with me, and Lord knows I’ve been wrong before, but my opinion is, and it’s a strong opinion, others may not feel this strongly (and Golic knows how opinionated I can be), that it would behoove a certain athlete, one who I don’t want to call out by name, (because who likes being called out by name?) that……
by Nero on Jul 26, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
I just can’t get past what a metrosexual pansy Greenburg is.
by Horncasting on Jul 26, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions
Appreciate this post. I am at work, but knew he was going to be on Sports Nation. Had no idea he was going on the offensive. Couldn’t be more grateful to have Mack Brown as our HC.
by Burnt Orange Wookiee on Jul 26, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions
Mack just gave the NCAA an “industry standard” test for monitoring players’ vehicles. Once again, we’re the Joneses.
by alma on Jul 26, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions
Horncasting -
I’m going to assume that was a tongue-in-cheek joke, but just in case you are serious…
You know that shit is all Kay-Fab don’t you? Just like in professional wrestling, radio personalities will participate in character fabrication to add scope and entertainment value to what they are selling. It fills airtime. It provides endless cheap laughs. The best of them never break kay-fab in the public eye. If you’ll notice, half of Mike & Mike’s live spots (or pre-recorded “live spots”) involve this charade of Golic being a jock and Greenberg being a dandy.
by Nero on Jul 26, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions
Only saw the Cowherd interview, but I think it was the best I’ve ever seen Mack. Every answer had substance and was pure gold. Mack sometimes gives a perfect political answer that leaves you with nothing, but not today.
Unless I heard wrong, not only did he say they knew what cars the kids drove, but that they had contracts on where they lived too to make sure they weren’t living above their means.
If anything fishy comes up, they have a sit down with the kid and get the answers so we don’t look clueless if the NCAA does come calling.
This should give them more time to figure out where Trent Richardson spent his $30,000, but I haven’t heard any answers yet.
Skip Bayless is beyond terrible. Mack should never have to be in the same room as him.
by LosHorn on Jul 26, 2010 4:34 PM CDT reply actions
Nero-
I’m going to assume that was a tongue-in-cheek joke, but just in case you are serious…
You know wrestling is real, right?
Mack is an absolute genius. It’s days like today that make me not to eager for the torch passing to take place.
I once got turned down by Peyton Manning’s wife. It was the nicest go to hell ever. Mack has the ability to nicely tell someone to fuck off. It’s a gift.
There is no doubt all that agent/coach speak was directed towards Tuscaloosa. Wonder what Trent Richardson’s “aunt” bought him to drive.
by magnusbleuveigner on Jul 26, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
Even if Greenburg isn’t “kay-fabbing”, wouldn’t he still be a pansy metrosexual?
by alma on Jul 26, 2010 4:42 PM CDT reply actions
Nero – I was being serious. Find it hard to believe that is all manufactured – clearly exaggerated for the show though. I have no idea so take your word for it and change my response to “I just can’t get past what a metrosexual pansy Greenburg’s character is”.
by Horncasting on Jul 26, 2010 4:48 PM CDT reply actions
Horncasting – I agree that to an extent, that is his base personality.
Magnus – the ten year-old me thought the Royal Rumble was the penultimate sporting event to the Superbowl.
by Nero on Jul 26, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
Love that Mack is for an 8 team playoff and pressuring the dirty coaches. The more college football is cleaned up, the better it is for Texas.
by Kafka on Jul 26, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
Mack has had his thin-skinned moments, but when you look at his cumulative performance over the years, he’s one of the smoothest cats out there.
by texoz on Jul 26, 2010 5:44 PM CDT reply actions
He was thin-skinned until he won the MNC.
by Bob in Houston on Jul 26, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions
Mack Brown presented in a ScipioTex frame. Off season can’t get much better than that. Thanks for the report and reportage.
by RomaVicta on Jul 26, 2010 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
Great stuff Scipio.
BUT…. you missed him on College Football live. He was on the panel! It was him, Andre Ware, & Kurt Fowler. Great Texas-centric half hour.
First segment was on expectations for this years team. How Gilbert will be different than Colt. How we most resemble the 08 team to Mack. He also said that goal #1 for the team is to win 10 games. Nice.
Second segment had more of the agent focus. He mentioned that Texas spends 12 days a year talking to the kids about the issue.
Third segment was the What If feature. What if the game of the century was NOT moved to December?
I missed alot of the details. Make sure to check it out. You can see the re-run on ESPNU in the morning. They replay it every 30 minutes from 5-7am CST.
Great stuff!!!
by Orangechipper on Jul 26, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
Oh yeah… they also asked him about Dez Bryant and hazing. Also about Kindle. Great half-hour. You won’t want to miss it.
by Orangechipper on Jul 26, 2010 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
On sportscenter Mack essentially said that had we helped create a Pac 16 that the 4 Super Conferences Era would have started right then. He also said he believed that it will happen “in our lifetime,” and that as far as he was concerned it is not a good thing.
He intimated that regional rivalries would wither away. Mack also believes that when we get to the 4-team super conference, the idea (myth?) of the under dog getting a shot at winning it all will be gone and that the game will be poorer for it.
He gave full voice to the Colt McCoy = Drew Brees theory and reiterated that he is expecting both Colt and Vince to to Super Bowl winning QB’s before they are through.
by srr50 on Jul 26, 2010 8:52 PM CDT reply actions
“Mack talks to Vince Young weekly. The "so-called brawl." Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that. Mack’s body language and expression says – Vince Young was put on earth to smite bitches. If you don’t want to get smited, don’t be a bitch around him.”
I’m sorry, but I love that shit.
by action on Jul 26, 2010 8:56 PM CDT reply actions
“Vince Young was put on earth to smite bitches. If you don’t want to get smited, don’t be a bitch around him.”
Somewhere, someone needs a signature. Here it is.
by Orange Marrow on Jul 26, 2010 9:06 PM CDT reply actions
I only caught the last few minutes of the college football live segment, but Mack was sporting a black longhorn polo. I believe it was part of the Muschamp collection. Anyway, best Mackspeak was when he was asked about Dez Bryant and he said if coudl give Dez some advice it would be to offer to carry around Romo’s pads.
They tried to get him to say what he thought would have happened if Colt hadn’t gotten hurt and he started with a way too PC answer (both sets of fans got cheated, Colt didn’t get to finish they way he envisioned), but then finished with, “the first five plays sure were going the way we wanted”. Which I took to mean “Bitches were beginning to be kicked”.
by Horncasting on Jul 26, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
The way he subtly called out coaches, while also intimating we don’t turn people in was just perfect.
I’m dying to use “smite bitches” in conversation now. Yey, new drunken challenge!!
by Bateshorn on Jul 26, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
honestly, is anyone actually offended by the “horns down”?
I know they are trying to be offensive, but isn’t that what bevo would look like if he was about to gore you?
course if vince wants to get in some barfights… i say that builds character
by wisconsinhornybadger on Jul 26, 2010 11:08 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks for this. I missed the interviews today.
by Vegas Kyle on Jul 27, 2010 12:55 AM CDT reply actions
I love how he drops “we have 52 plaers in the NFL right now…”
by horninhk on Jul 27, 2010 1:04 AM CDT reply actions
Y’all know what “smote” is?
I smite, you smite, he smites,
we done smote!
To smite is to go upside the head!
Because sometimes, brothers and sisters,
that’s the only way!
by Ethan and Joel on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 AM CDT reply actions
If there is a better coach in knowing how to use the media to one’s advantage, I have not seen him. Comparing Brown to Mizzou’s own Gary Pinkel – who equates interacting with the media as something akin to being a member of Focus on the Family, forced by the barrel of a gun to engage in a three way with Janet Reno and Donna Shalala – provides a stark contrast.
by MizzouDude99 on Jul 27, 2010 6:58 AM CDT reply actions
“Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that.”
You also shouldn’t be trying to big-time the manager/owner of a club while you are IN HIS CLUB acting like a complete douche to every employee of the club. Especially when you already have a distinct history of mental instability whilst in the league. I suspect Mack mentioned something along these lines to VY, but it’s not exactly good radio banter.
by NateHeupel on Jul 27, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions
Bob Stoops said they used to have a “bill of sale” for every car their players owned until the NCAA told them they could no longer associate with the dealership (Big Red) where the records were forged, er, I mean kept.
by tdwalsh on Jul 27, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
Here’s the video with Josh Elliott:
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/14547/video-mack-brown-on-texas-football
by BRAGGonUT on Jul 27, 2010 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
Nate…I won’t be an apologist for some of the missteps Vince has made since entering the league, but “distinct history of mental instability,” is not the correct way to put it.
ESPN ran with that stupid suicide story, which had no basis in reality, and now Sooners everywhere can point to that, grab their crotch, spit, and say “Gee gawlee, that there Vince Young wants to off his seff…what a idiot.”
The altercation was ill advised, of course, the point of this post was how well Mack handled it, and how awesome it was that it seemed like a legitimate response even though we all know Mack probably reprimanded him pretty good over the phone ( in a loving grandpa way of course).
by thestos on Jul 27, 2010 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
Whoa, I’ve been out of touch for a few days. I know Trent Richardson plays for Alabama. Is the NCAA looking at him? Is that what Saban is so hot about?
I did a quick search, but didn’t find anything.
Tremendous write-up. Thanks!
by java on Jul 27, 2010 9:02 PM CDT reply actions
Mizzou99 – I don’t think it bothers a lot of people but it’s just stupid. ou seems to be the one that adopted it earliest so I really don’t mind when they do it. It’s when the bama qb that had minimal impact on the MNC does it as soon as the clock strikes 0:00 where it seems classless. When Baylor fans do it it’s laughable.
by Savage Henry on Jul 28, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions
sorry, my last post was directed at wisconsinhornybadger.
by Savage Henry on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions
Cowherd is a lot smarter than most of his peers. That is a low bar but there it is. He gets Mack and gets Texas. He also did the funniest Deliverance-themed bit about OU after the Big Red scandal came out.
by hopefulhorn on Jul 28, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know if OU was the first to do the ‘upside down ’hook ’em’. Notre Dame did it following the 1/1/71 Cotton Bowl game. That is the day I knew what shell-shocked meant.
On 1/2/70, we were 30-0. We were undefeated during the 1970 regular season, and played miserably in the Cotton Bowl game to lose to Notre Dame. The ‘classy’ Irish were doing the upside down Hook ’em all over the stadium. It made me very happy to to know that I had witnessed one of their fans the night before sitting in the middle of downtown Dallas, crying like a baby because he had dropped his last fifth on the sidewalk and his party was over.
Of course, if we didn’t let it irritate us, they would probably quit doing it. Just a thought.
by java on Jul 29, 2010 12:13 AM CDT reply actions

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