Texas-Minnesota Series Cancelled

That is going to be a problem for Texas as they start their own network, the only games they will be able to put on the network are the ones from the big12, what would be the adv. of other teams saying you have the right to broadcast the game on your network, unless you pay them for it. Heck it might be a problem with in the Big 12 too.

another blow to the fans that just want to see good football. is the cal series next to go? ole miss?

so the Big 10 would not let them use video for the coaches show? I guess the big 10 is going to have trouble scheduling games

I do not seeing losing Minnesota as a blow for fans that want to see good football. Minnesota finished last season somewhere in the mid-60’s in the power rankings of college football teams. While not indicative of where they could be in 2015/2016 I don’t see glory ahead for the Gophers.

I was looking forward to that series.

Maninblack, I presume you do see glory in the future for Northwestern Idaho Tech or whatever other piece of trash shows up for a check?

I thank Tim Brewster from Vince Young on principle.

Took my kid to the UNC-UConn game two years ago, A bank of stadium lights tripped, resulting in a very long delay. My 7 year old, in a funky Rams-head hat, got a lot of air time. Went home and called ESPN to buy a game DVD. Sorry, that violates our agreement with UNC. Called UNC — sorry, that violates our agreement with ESPN.

Two capitalist institutions, turning down the right to make money by shoving a $1 DVD in $300 burner.

Ridiculous.

What a load of freakin’ nonsense. Come on DeLoss! You are quickly dragging our program down the prima-donna path. What’s next? We don’t play on natural grass because we’ll get grass stains and mud on our unis? This petty nonsense is beginning to confirm the perception that Texas is a bad actor that avoids stiff competition.

@ lowery
Maninblack, I presume you do see glory in the future for Northwestern Idaho Tech or whatever other piece of trash shows up for a check?

No but you’re kidding yourself if you believe Minnesota is somehow good football. There were 4 FCS teams that finished the season with higher power rankings last year than Minnesota.

Now if you want to make the argument that you would like to travel associated with playing Minnesota than that’s fine but it’s not as if they’re doing something great for our SOS.

<What’s next? We don’t play on natural grass because we’ll get grass stains and mud on our unis?

Ummm we don’t play on natural grass.

Ah, I love the smell of napalmed money in the morning…

Yes, this is clearly part of a Texas prima donna pattern. Nothing to do with a need for marquee OOC games in the future…

2010-11: UCLA
2012-13: Ole Miss
2014-15: Minnesota
2015-16: Cal

One of these things is not like the others.

Maninblack,

The point is they’re from the Big 10. That means more than beating UTEP. It also means no more series’ with any of the upper echelon Big 10 teams. That series with OSU sucked, right?

Fans denied viewing pleasure … work it out for crying out loud. If your team plays in a game, you should have rights to rebroadcast that game … period!

MB, I don’t get your point, looks like 4 thoroughly mediocre teams to me.

I don’t care about Minnesota per se, but I guess this means we won’t ever be playing a Big Ten team again. I don’t understand the singular focus on this network and maximizing revenue generally. This is already a rich program, and the football team not supposed to be a for profit venture.

anonymous: They want to establish a certain procedure for handling of video, such as being able to replay a non-conference road game. They couldn’t come to an agreement.

Previously, the concept of the home team owning game rights was not established (although this went to court). I think this will be the same kind of issue. There just is not a standard. Once there is, it will not be a big deal.

As to not maximizing revenue, are you serious? People do it all the time, every day.

"I’m extremely disappointed that Texas has chosen not to play us," said Brewster. "This was very unexpected, considering we had an agreement in principal. Our fans and our team were excited to play Texas. Obviously, they weren’t as excited about playing us."

I find Brewster’s quote to be fascinating, especially in light of the fact that his kid (sometimes) plays for the Horns.

(And why do I have to enter a CAPTCHA Code if I’m logged in as a member?)

I’m sure the new round robin Big12(10) schedule, meaning one less OOC game and the need to schedule a team thats actually good for our SOS had nothing to do with it. If we want to play a Michigan, PSU, OSU, WIsconsin, etc., we’ll work it out.

This is the sort of medium weight game we increasingly don’t schedule anymore (presumably because Mack still has nightmares about that NC State and Stanford game).

To the average fan, Minnesota looks more impressive than Louisiana Tire Balancing and Realignment Technical College, even if they aren’t significantly more difficult from a power ratings perspective. We should be scheduling more of this, not less. Easy-ish schools with name recognition: Maryland, Illinois, Arizona St., Syracuse, etc. If the school happens to catch lightening in the bottle and is good that year, than awesome, you have a marquee matchup. If they’re dross, the name recognition alone makes them look more impressive than La Tech to the lazy sports writer who does a quick schedule check before banging out some pablum on the world wide leader.

I’m having a hard time getting worked up about this. There are about 50 comparable teams we can replace them with.

nordberg,

i agree but we won’t. we’ll mos likely replace them with New Mexico State or some shit.

None of this matters until we see who the replacement will be. As is common in most internet boards, people are freaking out about things of little consequence with insufficient information.

Current Facts:

Games in 2015 and 2016 were cancelled
The team was not a marquee team by anyone’s estimation
A replacement has not been scheduled

Why does this need to turn into a freak out?

Doubt 3rd tier video rights was the real issue. We need to get out of the deal b/c we have fewer OOC games (but get to play Iowa State every year) and need to be smarter @ scheduling. Deloss would just as soon keep raising ticket prices and schedule all home games against patsies, but Mack can see the tiny 12 is going to hurt UT badly w/o better OOC games

All the BC bloggers are delusional when it comes to scheduling. Somehow they think Texas fans have a right to a bunch of marquee games every year.

What the fans deserve is what they pay for. Right now they are more than happy to shell out the big bucks to the LHF and to the ticket office for season tickets. I don’t think adding marquee games is going to increase season ticket sales. End of story. End of discussion I wish.

Eh, screw the Big Can’t Count Conference. They’re just suddenly vindictive because we turned them down. Perhaps also pissed that we forced them into an early decision on a Nebraska they weren’t completely sold on and were too buddy-buddy with a wavering Notre Dame.

Besides, they could have had us if they’d simply agreed to take Tech and Aggie.

Well, Tech, Aggie, and OU.

Tech, Aggie, OU, and Bevo D.

Make that Tech, Aggie, OU, Bevo D, and this lamp.

Only had to take Tech, Aggie, OU, Bevo D, this lamp, and the ashtray.

Just Tech, Aggie, OU, Bevo D, this lamp, the ashtray, and our dog Briles…

People let me tell you ‘bout my best friend,
He’s a warm hearted person who’ll love me till the end.
People let me tell you bout my best friend,
He’s a one boy cuddly toy, my up, my down, my pride and joy.

People let me tell you ‘bout him he’s so much fun
Whether we’re talkin’ man to man or whether we’re talking son to son.
Cause he’s my best friend.
Yes he’s my best friend.
(scat finish.)

@anonymous: There’s mediocrity and then there’s MEDIOCRITY.

UCLA gets by mostly on name, but they’ve been good as recently as 2005. Last season’s 8-4 finish for Ole Miss was a disappointment, but they’ve still been pasting Tech and Oklahoma State in the Cotton Bowl the past two years. Cal is 67-35 since 2001 (5-2 in bowl games). By contrast, Minnesota is 78-81 since 1996 with the most remarkable achievement being a blown 38-7 lead over Texas Tech in 06.

Assuming Ole Miss, Minnesota, and Cal are the three possibilities to free up schedule space, Minnesota is the obvious cut.

Minnesota per se doesn’t worry me. It is the precedent that worries me and the rights fights that will raise their ugly skulls very soon.

Since I’m convinced (until shown otherwise) that Texas wanted the right to show the game at Minnesota on the LHN (or BevoD if that’s all they have), this is a position that will be relatively hard to negotiate against B10 or Pac schools (if the Pac starts its network).

Because of their numbers (and inventory of old games), they will not need to give in on the issue of road non-conference video — they won’t need it to fill their time. Texas, OTOH, would like to have the chance to show every game it can, going by itself.

If Texas really wants road non-conference replay rights, it probably will have to trade something for it. Problem is, I can’t think of something similar that they can offer.

The dozens of us Texas exes in the Twin cities were really looking forward to this game.

“If Texas really wants road non-conference replay rights, it probably will have to trade something for it. Problem is, I can’t think of something similar that they can offer.”

It seems simple when there is a home and home. Agree that both can broadcast both games on their respective networks.

Carnies, the broadcast rights are a red-herring as the reason this series was cancelled. I’m sure srr50 will be on top of this, but the LSN and the Big10 Network aren’t competing for the same subscribers. They can both show the games on their own networks without affecting eachother. If anything, showing it both places provides exposure to both schools and should be welcomed by all involved.

This was about us improving our OOC.

texastough, we will have to see who Texas replaces Minnesota with, if it’s a the school for Blind Nuns then you know that Texas is avoiding teams that might beat them, I don’t think Minnesota would but you never know. If you play the Nuns you have a sure win.

Who knows? We will have to see. But with the exception of 2009, there’s a clear pattern of scheduling one good BCS opponent to go along with a couple sisterhoods of the indigent amputees. Arkansas, Ohio St, TCU (ranked that year), UCLA, Ole Miss, Cal. I highly doubt we drop Minnesota and don’t put someone better in that spot.

My real point was the broadcast rights smokescreen

I agree with Tim Brewster. We don’t care about playing Minnesota. They are a Big Ten team but not a quality one. Why even play that game? It never made sense, much less if they were going to try and exploit the Texas name for the Big Ten network for this POS game. Pretty sure we can replace this with a better game.

It seems simple when there is a home and home. Agree that both can broadcast both games on their respective networks.

I don’t see how any game between Texas and a Big Ten team would fall down to the third tier TV rights for either University.

This is probably about improving OOC SOS. Brewer would not have been as upset if this was genuinely unavoidable. The wording of his statement was quite negative and clearly indicates that the real reason for UT dropping the Minn. game had nothing to do with 3rd tier TV rights:

“I’m extremely disappointed that Texas has chosen not to play us. This was very unexpected, considering we had an agreement in principal. Our fans and our team were excited to play Texas. Obviously, they weren’t as excited about playing us.”

If a more prestigious team is selected as the replacement, let’s give Mack and DeLoss credit for rapidly responding to the new reality of the Big 12-2.

@5horn – my take on Brewster’s comment was a slight beotch slap to his former employer. His statement, “We plan to fill that slot in our upcoming schedule with a quality BCS opponent,” implies that Texas does not necessarily fit that bill. As I recall, when this game was scheduled there were certainly many who thought this was reimbursement for Brewster’s recruiting efforts of VY. Sounds like old man ego is taking a beating.

2014 is the only year that Texas doesn’t have a BCS OOC opponent scheduled. Doesn’t Arkansas owe us a game in Austin? What’s the betting line that we will play Arkansas in Austin in 2014.

Brewster won’t be around for that game, anyway.

maninblack said:
July 29th, 2010 at 6:00 am

<What’s next? We don’t play on natural grass because we’ll get grass stains and mud on our unis?

Ummm we don’t play on natural grass.
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No shit Einstein. You see there are these other schools, and they don't have field turf, and you see… you f*ck it. Nevermind.

Doesn’t Arkansas owe us a game in Austin? What’s the betting line that we will play Arkansas in Austin in 2014.

No, it was the return trip to Fayetteville that was dropped so the Hogs and Aggies could play in Jerry World.

il cativo said:
July 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

No shit Einstein. You see there are these other schools, and they don’t have field turf, and you see… you f*ck it. Nevermind.

Feel better?

My point still stands: less NM State, more crapping name schools from BCS conferences.

“sisterhoods of the indigent amputees”

That’s good shit.

Disappointed. Don’t fully believe the reason, and if it is the reason it seems ridiculous on the surface. Reminds me for some reason of us shitcanning the Hawaii game.

Everyone knows Texas only plays WEEK OOS games to pad their joke of a program. Minn. was to big a chance if they lost it would show them to be the pathetic program they are. Even the NFL teams say Texas players going into the league are soft. Because they take the course of least resistance