A Fuckload of Wampum
That's what Sam Bradford just ended up putting in his pocket.
It shows Stoops was totally right in getting Bradford to come back and get injured. Twice. Bob Stoops and Robert Johnson are tight.
The Rams drafted Bradford with an expectation of him becoming the face of their franchise.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff30/BarkingCarnival/Barking%20Carnival%20II/SamBradfordhurt.jpg
Hmmm.
The deal includes a guaranteed $50 million for the former Oklahoma QB, the most guaranteed money included in a deal in NFL history.
In total, it's a six-year deal worth $76 million, with a maximum value of $86 million.
Seriously, seems to have been a really good kid blah blah blah but how does anybody pay a QB with no NFL snaps that kind of scratch? I realize many say he's the next Joe Pendleton.
Guy seems like he can make all the throws given great protection but I'm not sure that's what he'll have this year. Anyway, NFL owners are an interesting lot. Where is Jimmy Johnson to rape and pillage these guys?
What do you think - is he Troy Aikman or Cade McNown?
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I’ll wish Sam the best of luck. He’ s going to need it. I have a hard time believing he’s $71 million better than Colt, but more power to him for getting the saps to pay him. I’ll leave it to others to predict whether he’s Aikman or McNown. I don’t follow the NFL enough to offer an opinion.
by Blueshorn on Jul 30, 2010 9:55 PM CDT reply actions
A few times in the draft QBs are taken en masse. More Leafs than Mannings. He may be great, he may not. Either way he’ll be rich. In a league with Delhommes and playing in Super Bowls and Warners doing great, the can’t miss college QB is a dicey proposition.
by Talent Scout on Jul 30, 2010 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
Dan Hawkins wants to know if he was a three-star QB out of high school before making his Aikman/McCown assessment.
Yeah, there is something wrong in the NFL when the fresh-outs get paid more than the current stars. Eric Berry is now the highest paid safety in the league.
Oh, and Dez Bryant has a high ankle sprain and is out 4-6 weeks…is this evidence that the Mack Brown curse is flowing through Roy Williams up in the land of big hair?
by uthookem on Jul 30, 2010 10:44 PM CDT reply actions
Bryant should have carried Roy’s shoulder pads. Karma.
by Blueshorn on Jul 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT reply actions
That kind of money baffles me. Sam Bradford was a great college quarterback, but then again, so was Ryan Leaf, and countless others.
The Rams are desperate to claim an identity, and putting that on Bradford’s (bad) shoulder(s) can end in two ways, just like anything else.
While I don’t think he’ll be Troy Aikman, he certainly won’t be Cade McNothing.
by Adam Biggers on Jul 30, 2010 11:58 PM CDT reply actions
The Rams didn’t really have a choice but to pay him
by dick on Jul 31, 2010 1:02 AM CDT reply actions
uthook, that’s three paragraphs of wonderful.
Aikman is the ceiling? That’s ridiculous. Aikman was good. Emmitt was good. That fucking OL was goddamn amazing. It was pretty much the best ensemble of 300 pounders since ‘Fatliners.’
Surround Sam with any talent whatsoever, and he’s going to be damn good.
Still laughing at the notion that the mongoloidian Aikman wan anything more than a product of having 3 days to pass to Irvin, who, usually got away with shiving the db and discarding him to the depths of the tunnel before making a catch.
Oh yeah, double fuck Dez Bryant for good measure.
Rookie salaries are just plain out of control. Lockout! Aaron Williams is the key to our national championship run next year, and I’m betting he’ll be back.
by magnusbleuveigner on Jul 31, 2010 7:46 AM CDT reply actions
I hope he fails. At least, though, he now has enough money to get his eyes fixed.
by ransomstoddard on Jul 31, 2010 8:10 AM CDT reply actions
That’ll buy a lot of firewater.*
*I’m one-sixteenth Cherokee, so I can say that.
by nordberg on Jul 31, 2010 9:26 AM CDT reply actions
Colt McCoy’s injury was much like Bradford’s in that it was a complete fluke. Right angle, wrong time, the end. This settles the argument as to if Bradford was mishandled. I’ve got a #1 draft pick and a contract with 50 mil in guaranteed money on my side, the Barkers have got their burnt orange kool aid and a deep well of resentment over the 50 point beatings that still hasn’t gone away. This despite the fact that UT presently owns the series, and that Muschamp is stockpiling warheads on defense.
Put another way, if UT somehow had the same luck with injuries that OU had last year, OU would win this year’s RRS by 20 or more, UT would finish the year short of 10 wins for the first time in a decade or more, and you all would be clamoring for Gilbert’s blood to be sacrificed at the alter of Bevo. Asking Bradford to come back in January 2010 seemed perfectly reasonable.
by NateHeupel on Jul 31, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions
I wonder if at any time during the negotiations if the
Rams reminded Bradford’s agent that he lost at one time to Dan and Cody Hawkins?
Football is king
I hate to sound like a librarian but compared to Bradford’s Saudi Arabian bonus it is kind of a sad day when an insitution of learning with Colorado’s academic reputation can’t scrounge up 3 million to shitcan this shameless pest of a coach
by voodoo economics on Jul 31, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions
He reminds me more of David Carr than anyone. Big arm in a gimick college system.
In the right situation Bradford will tread water, but he could easily crash and burn.
by Mocking Bird on Jul 31, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions
Nate, its absolute heresy to point out that despite its injuries and absolutely horrible offensive line, ou still almost beat Texas last year.
by ransomstoddard on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions
Newsflash: We tend to struggle against good defenses. Particularly, good OU defenses. That hasn’t changed in 12 years.
by nordberg on Jul 31, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
Hell we almost beat Texas last year with at best a 6A high school defense. Maybe the real answer is teams are closer in ability than we give them credit for. The realdifferences are certain players who are " winners" and then breaks, great plays and turnovers.
This is why Vegas has great casinos and your bookie drives a nice ride.
by Aggie Lurking on Jul 31, 2010 11:58 AM CDT reply actions
Newsflash: We tend to struggle against good defenses. Particularly, good OU defenses. That hasn’t changed in 12 years.
And you accused me of channeling Tim Nunez, nordberg. We hate the same guy.
by Blueshorn on Jul 31, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions
Have a few glasses of Akvavit and throttle back. What you have inferred and what I implied have a wide chasm between them. Nobody said Aikman was the ceiling for QBs or for Bradford. I was just trying to think of a guy who could stand in a stable pocket and make the throws. Aikman could and Bradford seems to be able to. McNown, on the other end of the spectrum, was just a bust.
Don’t get lost in the cabbage.
The question is will he win super bowls and/or be a perennial All Pro. Because at $50M guaranteed, that sort of needs to happen.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 31, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
“The question is will he win super bowls and/or be a perennial All Pro. Because at $50M guaranteed, that sort of needs to happen.”
The Rams obviously think it will.
by quigley on Jul 31, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions
Well, yeah. The debate is whether that’s a good gamble.
Thought this was interesting.
http://mobile.twitter.com/YahooSportsNFL/statuses/20008812763
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 31, 2010 2:05 PM CDT reply actions
Aikman was a great QB, because he had that rare abilty to play a high stakes game against an elite team and not make a mistake. The difference between Steve Young and Troy Aikman? Both great QBs, but if you have a great team, you’d rather have Aikman. If you had a crappy team, you’d rather have Young.
Jim Kelly have every bit the offensive machine around him, but he made mistakes in big games. Aikman could play error free, and that’s why he has three Superbowl rings, and is in the HOF.
by TaylorTRoom on Jul 31, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions
So is this where everyone brags about almost beating Texas last year?
by Hookah on Jul 31, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
I agree with TTR on Aikman and also the idea that rookie salaries are out of control, obscenely out of control. I can understand guaranteeing a certain amount that will set up the player for life, in the event they are severely injured in the first year or two of their careers and unable to play again, but that does not take 50 million. Do they not have to be in the league for 5 years before they are eligible for the pension?
No unproven quarterback is worth 50 million, and I don’t care which school he played for. I’m not certain Tom Brady was worth 50 million in his prime.
At one time, I watched college football all day Saturday and professional football all day Sunday. When they destroyed the Dallas dynasty with the salary cap and free agency citing the ‘poor’ teams, it was such a joke. There are no ‘poor’ NFL owners – only ‘poor me’ owners.
Now, unless there is nothing more appealing, I watch the Cowboys, or, if a team is on with one of our Longhorns, I watch that game.
Parity sucks.
by java on Jul 31, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
Asking Bradford to come back in January 2010 seemed perfectly reasonable.
If Garrett Gilbert has the third year that Bradford had and is a consensus top 5 pick, you can kick every Barker in the nuts who says he should come back. I’ll personally punch Mack Brown in the fuck if he goes Stoops and says that Gilbert should come back.
by The General on Jul 31, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
If Gilbert has the third year that Bradford had, he’ll be watching from the bench.
by ponderos on Jul 31, 2010 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
Stoops is all over the local media today, claiming that Bradford’s contract justifies his handling of him. Never once says anything like “I’m proud of him” or “I’m happy for him”.
by ransomstoddard on Jul 31, 2010 9:13 PM CDT reply actions
Inasmuch as I don’t believe Bradford will make it through any NFL seasons without missing at least 1-2 games due to injury, it will be difficult to decide who to compare him to.
by BEHorn on Aug 1, 2010 12:02 AM CDT reply actions
I’ll personally punch Mack Brown in the fuck…
Holy shit General. For some reason this made me spit my water out laughing. I’m rooting for this phrase to catch on. I can see Will Farrell telling someone he will punch them in the fuck.
Nate, if I decide to jump my car over devil’s gorge and I pull it off, the fact that I got away with it doesn’t make it a good decision. There are a few reasons why Sam coming back could have been a good thing ranging from needing another year to develop to needing another year for his body to fill out etc, and I’ll accept those, but people need to stop holding his high draft position up as evidence that it was good for him to come back. That injury could very easily have been worse and we could be talking about his talent in the past tense.
Stoops is all over the local media today, claiming that Bradford’s contract justifies his handling of him. Never once says anything like "I’m proud of him" or "I’m happy for him".
Ransom, you nailed it. like the quote Scip cited from Stoops at the media days where he gave a backhanded compliment to Jones when in reality he was making it about himself. He’s such an arrogant ass, frankly, he needs to be punched in the fuck!
by t1climb1 on Aug 1, 2010 6:21 AM CDT reply actions
For sure an undersized, fragile, former system QB like McCoy will not win super bowls and/or be a perennial All Pro. Hence, the price difference.
by Bill Boxley on Aug 1, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions
Ponderos,
Bradford’s third year of college football was his sophomore year
by The General on Aug 1, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions
I guess i don’t see the vindication for Stoops. His reasons given for Bradford returning in 2009 were threefold-
1. His forecast draft position was not that great, per Stoops’ sources. Well, Stoops’ sources were wrong. Bradford went #1 after a season where he played 7 quarters, doing dick against BYU and UT, and dropping a few TDs on BU at home. I will say that his 2009 season did nothing to help him in the draft, and he would have gone as high in the 2009 draft.
2. He could contend for a MNC in 2009. Didn’t happen.
3. He wouldn’t lose money staying for a year. Well, there is the lost 2009 income. To Stoops’ credit, Bradford did get a great payday, anyway.
BTW, how well did the decisions to return work out for the others? Gresham dropped in the draft, Williams rose, McCoy probably rose, and DeMarco Murray probably should have come out. He would have been drafted in 2009, and may be drafted in 2011, but the 2010 draft was never a real option.
by TaylorTRoom on Aug 1, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions
@mocking bird-
David Carr & a “gimick college offense”??? Fresno State runs a pro style offense and have been for ages.
but
i do hope bradford the best. but the $hit they pay these rooks is ridic. needs to be fixed.
and as magnus stated, i am really hopin Aaron Williams gets scared off from the nfl due to the prospect of a lockout. If Williams returns, that team will be absolutely boss.
by PVogel on Aug 1, 2010 1:57 PM CDT reply actions
If the draft happens, that would scare Aaron Williams into going to the NFL, right?
by Orange Julius on Aug 1, 2010 3:23 PM CDT reply actions
You okies kill me.
Positives:
Did not end up with the Detroit Lions.
Negatives:
Lost out on 12 million dollars give or take (last years salary) by staying in college.
Hurt throwing shoulder — might be an important asset for a QB.
Had to eat his own vomit (pure conjecture I admit)
Lost to Texas (again)
Had to live in Oklahoma another year.
Yep I can see how stoops was right.
by roach on Aug 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
I stole the following from a Mike Lopresti Column.
“Trying to put into context what it is like for a rookie quarterback to make $50 million before standing in his first pro game-day huddle, we came across these numbers.
Bradford has been guaranteed $42 million more than Jack Nicklaus earned his entire PGA Tour or Senior Tour career.
You could take that guarantee and pay the salaries of every president in the history of the United States, and have $30 million left over.
It’s $37 million more than Tom Brady earned his first five years in the league — which included three Super Bowl championships.
It’s only $15 million less than Jerry Jones paid for the Dallas Cowboys 21 years ago."
Not to knock on Sam but, this is nuckin futty!
Bob
by bnahusker on Aug 2, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions
And I’m sure that’s exactly what you meant, General!
by ponderos on Aug 2, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
I’m going to laugh my ass off when, in his first regular season game, Bradford stands there in the backfield on the first drive, getting ready to throw, when BAM! he gets blindsided into next week a second later. Dude will spend all game thinking, “Wait, so I DON’T have an hour to sit back here and pick out my targets like I could back in Spithole OU? This is gonna be hard!” LMAO.
by yojimbox on Aug 2, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions
By the way, Bradford getting paid big change? Good for him. Who gives a fuck if St. Louis is run by fucking retards. More power to Sammy’s agent for getting PAID.
by yojimbox on Aug 2, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
By the way, I love the Aggie that came on here bragging about “almost” beating Texas last year. LMAO. Whoever heard of bragging about “almost” winning something? Man, it must suck to be an Aggie.
by yojimbox on Aug 2, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions
Can we make “punch in the fuck” a recurring tag feature at BC? It’s at least as funny as fuck lion.
by jc25 on Aug 2, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
Whoever heard of bragging about "almost" winning something?
Can we do the title game over again?
by Mack Brown on Aug 2, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions

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