Texas Football Mid-Camp Report: OL, TE/H-Back
Let's move on to OL, which has the depth of a Louis L'amour novel, and to TE/H-Back, a position we've decided to feature on offense because it's our weakest. I kid. I kid.
No, I don't.
Thoughts are based on my observations, what I'm reading from Mack and Greg and Will, and what I'm hearing from people with access to the program.
TE/H-Back
Everyone is being cross-trained at both. Barrett Matthews is the only complete high potential TE/H-Back (blocking, receiving, can split out wide, athletic ability, hands) on the roster...
...out of 9.
Uh, yeah.
Barrett Matthews has been out with a hamstring, but scrimmaged recently and looked good. He's much more important to this offense than people think. Almost Kheeston Randall on D important.
Can't find out anything definitive on DJ Grant. He's still less than a year out from his knee. Healthy DJ would be a real passing game asset.
Trey Graham is done for the year with his injury and it's 12-18 month + recovery.
Greg Smith is the most athletic he has ever been and no volleyball sets seen. He has raised his game a lot. True receiving threat? If left uncovered. He's not going to be splitting safeties anytime soon.
The coaches like Ahmard Howard as the third guy (along with Smith/Matthews) at TE/H-back. Ahmard no longer satisfied with being an Eater & a Rider.
Dominique Jones will block the hell out of you, but this probably isn't his natural position and he's a true redshirt freshman.
Darius Terrell is too weak to play TE, too slow to play WR. Redshirt. He needs three years in the program to get stronger. He longs for the David McWilliams failed Flex End position.
We're now trying Ryan Roberson at FB. Good times. Jamison Berryhill, you are on notice, sir!
Joe Bergeron can't get here fast enough.
OL
The coaches think we're taking to our new identity. I think it will take some time. We've recruited a combination of spread guys and maulers with little coherence between the two and establishing a physical identity springs from the schemes and low pad levels as much as big talk and bench presses.
Mason Walters is a vicious animal. His injuries may have prevented us from coaching his natural aggression out. Everyone thinks he's special and I can't disagree. NFL guy.
Luke Poehlmann is our #3 OT and 25 pounds from being a starter. High effort, good technically, just too light. Still just a sophomore, remember. Needs to regrow his glorious mullet.
I raved about Trey Hopkins in the open practices and now the coaches are too (in public). He'll play at Rice and can back up as many as three positions. Bright, aggressive, athletic.
Dominic Espinosa needs a redshirt and three years in the weight room.
Huey and Hix are finally in a scheme designed for their skill set. Hix is not an elite pass blocker though. The threat of a running game will help him. Huey needs to work on his pad level and maintaining his feet after the initial punch.
Britt Mitchell gets worked over by our DEs. We need him to improve.
David Snow is going to be a solid center. 6-6 Garrett Porter will back him up. Kind of interesting. Garrett looked OK there, but I'd like to see how he'd fare against a 3-4 NG compact body like Colby Whitlock at Tech.
Steve Moore. Still on scholarship.
Lack of vocal assertiveness from the offense in general.
Tray Allen may be back earlier than was first believed. If he's not ready by UCLA, we need to redshirt him. Hard to believe he's a senior.
I can't get program opinions on Ashcraft. I like him in the run game. Thick-legged and immobile though.
Mark Buchanan a bit of a ghost. Hopkins' ascent can't be good news for him.
Paden Kelly has gotten compliments but in a "he's coming along" way. He's a RS Freshman. Dr. Scipio prescribes 18-24 more months in the weight room.
It's incredibly unfair to criticize freshman and sophomore OL as if their failure to play older than they are is their fault, but that's where our OL recruiting finds us. Ideally, we'd be taking guys, redshirting all of them, and then not speaking about them until they're 3rd year sophomores.
On the positive side, this starting five is athletically superior to last year's OL and they're now in schemes that offer a fighting chance in the running game. How we staff WR and RB may dictate their success more than is perceived.
I'm also a huge fan of the return of the draw play (we run it more like a lead draw than sprint draw) for this particular group. This OL that may be more adept at screening, occupying, and then trying to turn a shoulder than firing out and putting people on their backs. It also slows pass rushers and feeds play action. The delay action works well with a methodical guy like Cody Johnson who will give the hole time to develop rather than Fozzy, who believes all play calls are sweeps.
Our current best 5:
Hix
Huey
Snow
Walters
Mitchell
Our ideal 5:
Hix
Huey
Snow
Allen
Walters
3rd OT: Poehlmann
4th OT: Kelly
Utility/Jack-of-All-Trades: Hopkins
Health X factor: Allen
Pending More Info: Ashcraft
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I’m on board if you retract that slight against L’Amour.
by cmdr on Aug 22, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
I love Louis L’amour. Required reading for all boys.
The Iron Marshal and Hondo are favorites.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 22, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions
Looks like some unfortunate timing for the mullet. We switch to be more physical as he improved his play. No way he can play at 275 – this isn´t JUCO.
by realmccoy on Aug 22, 2010 2:57 PM CDT reply actions
I wasn’t able to make the open practices to see how the guys look in person, but is Espinosa a little soft at his current weight? Because 6-4 at 295 isn’t terrible for a true-freshmen center, or at least something not needing 3 years in the weight room to remedy…
by jon on Aug 22, 2010 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
His height and weight aren’t accurate. And if it were, they don’t mean much in and of themselves. There are guys who are 6-4 295 who are built like brick shithouses and there are guys with those dimensions who are fat tubs of goo. It’s about distribution and body fat.
That’s the value of open practices – you know right away which players we’re bullshitting on size-wise.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 22, 2010 4:24 PM CDT reply actions
On that note, does Chris Jones really weigh in at 160 lbs? Cause that almost knocked me to the floor.
by jon on Aug 22, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks for this. Unbelievable that we’re still so thin at TE. You’d think that when everyone is healed we’d be stacked at the position…. doesn’t seem so.
by Orangechipper on Aug 22, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions
I have nightmares of Hix against elite DEs. GG will too. Its a shame that the OL may take another year to get where we need it. Every other position group ont eh tem is either strong, or positioned to be strong in the next year. Unfortunetely OL by nature, takes longer to develop players.
by fear_the_cow on Aug 22, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions
jon -
He would fit in around Addis Ababa.
Ochipper-
Very bad luck + bad evaluations = bad results.
fear the cow -
I think you could an advance an argument that our D is light years ahead of our O (despite their domination of scholarships #s) in almost all phases and that has everything to do with the difference between Muschamp’s development and recruiting and the O’s.
I can count the dead weight on our defense on two or three fingers. On O? Two hands.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 22, 2010 5:05 PM CDT reply actions
Good write up Scip. Dom Jones is actually a redshirt fish.
by maninblack on Aug 22, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
‘Britt Mitchell gets worked over by our DEs.’
Considering the dearth of talent we have at DE, someone needs to take this poor soul out back and put one in his ear.
by vtrain on Aug 22, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions
Well done, sir. Can’t quibble with the personnel totem pole but feel encouraged that we are entertaining the possibility of actually helping potential slobber-knockers in the passing game with deal breaking blocking schemes. Word on the street is you actually spent considerable time in the trenches your own sweet self in another life—-any chance a sound play action blocking scheme takes the starch out of greyhound DE’s simply out-sprinting OT’s mired in a spread formation/scheme. While outstanding bull rushers might still out-athlete our current OT’s, taking away their quickest move at least gives us a puncher’s chance when combined with a better percentage of doubt before the snap. Just betting here Scip but I magine you weren’t thinking rip, swim, or bull in your four point against opponents that smiled as their first step was placing that steel cage in your gizzard early and often.
Thanks for the read—-it’s bout time to call in the dogs and piss on the fire.
by TexasFootball on Aug 22, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
Not unbelievable we don’t have tight ends…we don’t recruit prototypical tight end dimensions. There are some out there…they just take time to develop and we want the harry high school allstars with the numbers….good athletes mind you but not bodies built for Sunday play.
And Scip dead on about Fozzy…every running play call he hears in the huddle has an 8 or a 9 on the end of it. He would take a QB sneak over to Mack if he took the snap.
by derryl on Aug 22, 2010 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
talent acquisition is the most important part of any organization, and texas football is no different.
the difference in dead weight between offense and defense is clear, and shocking.
there is no excuse for having dead weight at positions like rb and wr. you’re going to miss in some evaluations on OL and DL, and those big bodies are impossible to move around, but to have upper-class skill players who will never see meaningful time at any position is silly.
by eljinca on Aug 22, 2010 8:05 PM CDT reply actions
Scipio I don’t always agree with you. But these posts are so well written and informative. Thank you so much for all you do.
by Nathan on Aug 22, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
Scipio,
I agree with your assessment of Britt Mitchell. Assuming Tray Allen is back early and retakes his position at right guard, do you think the coaches start Walters over Mitchell at tackle?
by TKO on Aug 23, 2010 3:00 AM CDT reply actions
You can’t tell me that Milon Talon didn’t have depth. Nobody could have seen that ending.
by dedfischer on Aug 23, 2010 7:57 AM CDT reply actions
What percent of offensive snaps is the H-Back (not counting short yardage when he would be lined up as a TE) on the field?
by TaylorTRoom on Aug 23, 2010 8:18 AM CDT reply actions
Walking Drum? Lonesome Gods? Jubal Sackett? Don’t talk to me about lack of depth.
As for the football, I think there are four guys who will contribute at TE/HB: Matthews, Smith, Howard, Whaley, which is a far cry from the last couple years at TE.
Agree with everything you said about OL except Poehlmann. I’d like to actually see him play before saying he can’t bang with the big boys. Size can be really overrated. My two deep for the OL: Hix-Huey-Snow-Allen-Walters/Poehlmann-Hopkins-Porter-Ashcraft-Mitchell
by llogg on Aug 23, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
Hix
Huey
Snow
Allen
Walters
Please. Let’s try
Trulove Sackett (could stop Suh with one arm)
William Tell Sackett
Kin Ring Sackett
Nolan Sackett
Lando Sackett
by Louis L'am Jones on Aug 23, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions
Texas Football -
It would have been enjoyable to have been coached by you instead of misdemeanor felons and closet boy voyeurs. You’ve got me fired up. And I agree with every word you wrote, as I usually do. If we can raise the OL pups in a culture where aggression won’t be rewarded with a time-out and a chat with a psychiatrist’s doll, we’ll be in good shape soon enough.
el jinca -
You speak truths, sir.
Nathan -
You’re welcome.
TKO -
That’s my guess.
dedfischer -
L’amour’s Western’s generally had cliffhangers like a Scooby Doo cartoon.
Taylor -
I’ll go with 50%.
llogg -
My perception is based on seeing him play against Jeffcoat, Wilson, Jones.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 23, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions
Alien
The name is to be spoken no more in the Temple.
by NBMisha on Aug 24, 2010 6:40 AM CDT reply actions
If quickness is really the issue we have with stopping the pass rush then Poehlman could be the answer if he is strong enough to stop the bull rush. 275 is a bit heavier than most DE’s he will face. That also assumes he is quicker than the other guys.
For those of you who have seen him, can he hold his own, is he a bit quicker than Mitchell?
by Monahorns on Aug 24, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions
Monahorns -
Yes, he is quicker than Mitchell. But he’ll be playing against much quicker athletes nearly his own size. That’s why a base you can rely on is so key. If an OT can’t stop the bull rush, he’s fish in a barrel for anything the defender wants to do.
Luke would hold up fine in 70% of our games. But the remaining 30%?
by Scipio Tex on Aug 24, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
Scip, I agree with what you’re saying. That’s why I wonder about his strength. For some guys strength can compensate for weight to provide that base. With strength there also has to be the understanding of how to use it. Is Luke one of those guys? Never watched him play or practice so I don’t know. There are not many (any?) good 275 lb tackles in college football these days, but adding fat isn’t a solution in my mind either.
I am sure we will not be the greatest line this year, but I just can’t worry too much due to the fact that we got rid of Ulatoski. I know he did some things well, but every time I focused on him he got beat or made a mental error (see down 24-21 in NCG).
by Monahorns on Aug 24, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions
“The coaches think we’re taking to our new identity. I think it will take some time. We’ve recruited a combination of spread guys and maulers with little coherence between the two and establishing a physical identity springs from the schemes and low pad levels as much as big talk and bench presses.”
Bingo, bro’.
Obviously, we’re hoping the process is accelerated.
by SlickStreet on Aug 25, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions
If Tray Allen cant get back in the next two weeks we need to save this 5 star recruit who is finally coming into his own. He showed a lot during the national championship playing RG for a good portion of the game. A great run blocker it would be a shame for him to come back half way this year being out of shape an in his final year. I rather him come back next year hungrier then ever and take charge as the leader of the young offensive line.
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