Reggie Bush Loses Heisman Award?

I’ll take option 3.

I thought everyone already more or less had prima nocta rights with the Kardashians.

Longhorn fans clamoring to be given something they don’t deserve and didn’t earn just means all is right in the world and life’s status quo carries on.

I’ve not understood the “He should turn it down” theory. I don’t think they’re going to hold a revote or automatically give it to him as the runner-up, but if he gets it, of course he should take it.

What’s crazy is that Vince may be the best player to EVER play college ball.

His stats in two Rose Bowls against Michigan and USC are enough to save a place in that discussion in perpetuity. His regular season stats aren’t too shabby either.

VY deserved the Heisman. Bush won due to media hype. VY was the best player in college football that year.

Good post and it covers my thoughts on the matter completely.
 
Specifically, the Kardashian sisters.

Bush’s stats in the 1st half of 2005 were propped by all-purpose yards. Meanwhile, VY leads a bunch of inexperienced and/or average WRs and RBs to 50 points a game.

Leave it vacant — we have already had more than enough fun recently with asterisks.

If the media and voters want to give it to VY because they are acknowledging that he was the better player in 2005, then by all means he should accept it and enjoy it, as will I. If, however, they just want to say that VY was the next guy in line and since the “better” player is no longer eligible to have it, it is now VY’s, then not only should he turn it down, but he should show up at the ceremony, take a leak on their worthless trophy and walk out!

The Heisman swung on one weekend. Bush played Fresno st. and blew up, and VInce played ATM and underwelmed. I was actually at the Fresno game and it was impressive. Of course he had a bunch of all purpose yards that took him to 500 yards that day and that was all you heard about.

and what were fresno’s defensive stats for that season?

As was typical of Bush’s return performance all that year, he averaged less than 20 yards per return against Fresno and had media people slobbering all over him because of it. He had so many return yards against Fresno not because he excelled at kickoff returns but rather because Fresno scored so often. Oh, and they rather pointedly kicked to him every time, perhaps because USC’s other return guy had a higher average than Bush did.

Fresno exhibited their defensive prowess by going on from the USC debacle to give up 38 points to Nevada, 40 to La Tech, and 31 to Tulsa in the process of losing all three games.

I’m sure that moron John Saunders still marvels at Bush having 500 yards of “total offense” (as he described it) against Fresno. Goodness, I wonder if anyone in college football actually did have 500 yards of total offense in a game that season.

USC having an average defense and Texas having a good one probably was the main reason Bush won.

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Vince Young did. He had 506 yards of total offense against Oklahoma State on the road leading us back from a three touchdown deficit.
 
In 2005. Media? – nary a mention. They just played the pump fake 80 yard TD run highlight a couple of times.

Re-voting would be more pointless than those retroactive NC titles the likes of Bama are so proud of. Unlike those retroactive titles where the voters never even saw the pre-1938 teams play, the voters did see VY and Bush play. They just drew a different conclusion than homer horns. Putting a retroactive cloacking device on Bush as if he didn’t play and then lining up the other also-rans against VY is a disservice to…reality.

I really wish Vince would say he appreciated the gesture, but that he didn’t want it.

Also, I can’t wait until the Titans/Texans game when Vince is leading them to another victory, and that other USC Heisman winner is stuck on the bench…for the Texans of all things.

How many carrie and touches is Reggie getting in New Orleans.

RIght…about that Heisman…you guys in suits can hold on to that

Roll the 2005 tape

It seems to me the Texans just live to piss off Longhorns. Take a reject quarterback from USC off the dustbin? seriously?

I wonder how different it would be if they just did the right thing a few years ago.

Seems open and shut. Bush should lose his heisman trophy because he was declared ineligible because he and his family took big money under the table. Either Vince gets the heisman because he was the runner up or they revote. To not reward the heisman to somebody is not fair to Vince and the other contenders of 2005.

Bonus points to the heisman committee if they change their schedule to vote to after the bowls have been played.

It is not often you have a chance to correct a great injustice, I hope the heisman trust does not blow this.

It gives you tired head? Is that some sort of Kardashian reference?

The main highlight from that Bush vs Fresno St game was sold as an unmatched moment of athletic heroics by the eventual Heisman winner. He twists, he turns, he reverses so many times you’ll lose count.

From my vantage point, it looked like a talented player feasting on a gassed defense that tackled like a high school JV soccer team.

Throwing a 50 yard TD bomb off one’s back foot (Limas Sweed, against Kansas) is nothing to get excited about these days.

To full circle this thing, I was in a strip club full of Kardashian types the night Reggie played Fresno St.

To be honest, I don’t think it was the 500+ yards Bush accumulated, I think it was that long run with the cutback that sealed it. Good run, but not as good as VY hitting the “gravity off switch” while that OSU guy floated away.

In a year where the obvious top 2 are a USC guy and a Texas guy, the USC guy wins 9 out of 10 times. We all know who was better.

The fact that they don’t hold voting until after the bowl game is a crime in and of itself.