Thoughts on the offense against Texas Tech

I wonder how many years we can continue to say “we’re working on the run game” with a straight face. Imagine Muschamp taking years and years to, say, “work on stopping the run”. It’s comical.

Based on nothing but what our defense gave us, we should have won this game 34-10 in our sleep.

You’re an angry young man.

I like it.

Hmm, less subtle than say, some of the Mack Adams pieces, but I like it nonetheless.

You can see the difference in coordinators in the press conferences. Davis validates himself through esoteric statistics and denies any problems. Muschamp owns problems and vows to correct them.

I blame our offensive woes on your decision to stop drinking on the third quarter because of a Jewish holiday or something. And you’re not even Jewish.

Other than that I agree with everything else.

Definitely one of muschamp’s witchier performances. We’ll need a few more of those in Dallas and Lincoln.

First, I was not expecting a win in Lubbock so last night UT cleared a HUGE hurdle to a promising season. Go look at the schedule and you dare to dream of what might be. Going forward, the only game we will likely be an underdog will be the Nebraska game. OU has looked like ice, cold dog shit. If we play with fewer mistakes than last night, we should win.

Back to your (HJ) point. It’s surreal to go to the other board and see people defend the offense as though it has no issues. Most of the time they point to how good the offense has performed over the last 5+ years as though they have no clue to how lucky we’ve been to have Vince Young & Colt McCoy.

If you’ve watched UT for the last 10 years, you don’t have to be a football genius to have noticed that the offense has rarely outsmarted the opposing defenses. There have been moments of offensive brilliance, but they’re very few and far between. As HJ has pointed out, the play calling last night was questionable at best. The OL was a weakness, again. The much promised improvement in the running game is now flipped over in the ditch with the tires spinning.

Malcolm Brown can’t get here soon enough. And hopefully he’s not on the Whaley diet.

i think you are going a little overboard. One thing i will say about garret, is he certainly has more arm strength, but it seems to me like it is because he leans into his throws. This makes the release take more time, and he cant get as much power from corkscrewing his body like he does without having time to set his feet

Love Davis as Fredo.

You might want to visit with Eyes of Texas on the clock management. I agree with you, but Eyes thinks it was spot on. I guess reasonable minds can differ, but he doesn’t seem to think so.

No attention to detail is what gets me.

Fozzy running out of bounds at the end of the first half didn’t cost us, but it typifies our issues on that side of the ball.

Coming out of the time out you do everything short of tattooing “Stay in Bounds” on the ball carriers fucking head before the players leave the sideline. It didn’t cost us yesterday, but that’s the kind of shit that can cost you a ballgame and it should never happen.

We know Mack is not going to ever replace Greg Davis….So maybe we could at least find a top notch O-Line coach. We recruit many top notch Offensive Lineman, they play average at UT and several have moved on to the NFL which means there is big talent their but they are poorly coached at UT. The inability to run the ball over the last several years is maddening. Get a stud O-Line coach before Malcolm arrives on the 40 acres please!

We need an OL coach/co-OC who can be GD’s “junior” partner but who functions as the offensive counterpart to Muschamp. With a Boomian attitude permeating our offense and with something better than the BM that has been our RT play, we smoke Tech. Greg can be the boss as long as he does what Little Boom says.

Actually, this may all come to a head soon if UGA doesn’t kick some major butt in its remaining games. I am concerned. A Little Boom would be no replacement for the real one.

Re: Fozzy running out of bounds, receivers dropping passes, and OL not cut blocking on a screen pass. Obtuse observers will point to these mistakes by players and blame the players and not the system/coaching, failing to recognize that these problems have been consistent over the years. The players have come and gone, but the same problems remain. Yet, somehow, it’s the players’ fault.

Richt will be run after this season barring a miracle turnaround. Which sucks because we are poised, with or without GD, to be the hands down favorite to win the MNC in both 2011 and 2012. Could it happen w/o Muschamp? Don’t want to find out. With an offer from Georgia, could Muschamp force Mack’s hand in getting GD a pink slip? Or will he go regardless? This is all coming to a head.

Let’s fast forward a few years into the future. Mack Brown has retired, and Will Muschamp is the new head coach at Texas.

Man, I wish this could happen. Good read, HJ. Really tired of this and hate to think of Muschamp working in Athens.

Also, the first motherfucker who shows up here and says don’t worry, Mack will hire another great DC gets hit over the head with a tote bag full of Krugerrands.

Re: OL, this is kind of interesting:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/t

I’d love to see Greg Davis sent on a secret adventure aboard Al Neri’s Chum Charter, but he won’t be. He’ll just get a pat on the head for dicking around with Mo Green’s nickel slots.

Good post.

At the 7:25 mark in the fourth quarter, with a ten-point-lead, we began a drive on Tech’s 35-yd-line. We promptly went three-and-out. You broke my heart, Greg.

Consider this, though. At that point in the game Tech had 103 yards of offense. Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

I don’t see how Malcolm Brown makes Davis a better coach who creates better schemes and calls better plays.

Like isn’t that the mindless wishful thinking approach we currently embrace…rather than looking for the actual reasons that highly rated OL amount to nothing at Texas after 4 years? Or examining horrible play calling that simply isn’t going to work regardless of who runs the ball?

Dude, if you want to be fucking negative you can haul your ass over to 24/7 or Orangebloods.

I blame our offensive woes on your decision to stop drinking on the third quarter because of a Jewish holiday or something. And you’re not even Jewish.

Is HJ a Shomer Shabbat?

It’s clear that the defensive players have bought into the Muschamp way totally.
The results show it.
Is the talent gap between the defense and the offense as huge as it looks?
Or is it that the offensive players just don’t have the same do-or-die attitude as the defensive players? If not, why not? [that’s a rhetorical question]
We saw the change in the defense from 2007 to 2008 because of Muschamp. The players’ talent level didn’t suddenly jump; the coaching improved. Leaders emerged.
We are stuck with the offensive coaching [that’s a pun]. Where are the leaders on offense?
I think that is a huge problem. The players need to take charge and make themselves and their fellows accountable. Muschamp doesn’t work his magic alone. He has leaders among the players who are his enforcers. Who are the offense’s enforcers?

You are all morons. Have you not seen our offensive production since Greg Davis has taken over? He’s the best in the business. You all have no clue. Bunch of idiots.

As you say, Scipio, that envisioned future cannot arrive soon enough. Anyone who really believes Davis is one of the best OCs in the country need only ask himself one question: Is Boise’s offensive talent really that far superior to ours? Really?

I don’t agree with you about the clock management at the end of the first half, but I agree with everything else – great analysis, sadly.

Hook ’em!!!

Oops. Henry James, not Scipio. Sorry for the confusion.

Hook ’em!!!

Talking about Boise, I remember, at one time, we were looking at Chris Peterson (an OC at Boise State back then) as our OC. Too late now, he had outgrown the position.

Why did everyone think a sophomore QB with no game day experience was going to be good right out of the shute? He was very mediocre in every aspect of the game during what little playing time he got in 2009. He had / has potential and nothing more at this early date.

Couldn’t agree more HJ.

“I blame our offensive woes on your decision to stop drinking on the third quarter because of a Jewish holiday or something. And you’re not even Jewish.”

HJ is Hyman Roth.

Sailor, I see what you did there.

Interesting that of the five OL we currently have in the Pros, McWhorter only recruited one.

Coaching starts at the top. If you have a solid coordinator who demands accountability from his position coaches, you will be good on that side of the ball even if you don’t have talented players. If you don’t, you won’t. Talent only compensates for so much.

So true. Greg Davis’ continued reign of terror on Texas fans is enabled by the widely-believed notion that he shares no part of the blame for his players’ collective failure to execute. I hate the subhuman trash that subscribe to this “poor execution is on the players” argument, and pray for Jehovah to smite them and their sinful families, retro-style.

Every year, I point out that, against quality defenses, this offense continues to underperform in comparison to our opponents’ other opponents. I now get to simplify that sentence by removing the entire “against quality defenses” clause. That makes my vitriol much more readable, which is nice.

There is simply no excuse for the Texas’ offense’s track record of underperformance under Greg Davis. He is the problem. Or Mack is the problem. Either way, it is a coaching problem and it will not be fixed as long as Mack is here and a superhuman improviser of a quarterback is not.

HJ,

Your assessment of the O is sadly, spot on. I’m amazed that some here think that a team w/ an O as bad as this one will come out victorious against NU & OU. No matter how spectacular a D is, if an ineffective O keeps them on the field forever & constantly makes them defend a short field, it’s a recipe for disaster. And it’s a show we’ve seen far too often under Mack.

Unless Greg Davis signs up to be Georgia’s new OC in the next 4 months I don’t see how this conversation can possibly happen.

Not to pile on, but Britt Mitchell gave up 2 INTs. The one Scott tipped to himself and the one that Scott tipped to a team-mate, Both on screen plays to his side.

I’ve been pointing out GG’s lengthy and slow windup, his slow release and his strange release point since the Bama game but no one is listening. Combined with his to-be-expected locking on to receivers, a 4 or 5 int game is in his future.

Props to ransomstoddard for nailing the reason why Garrett had 3 picks and will inevitably have a 5 int game in the future. It is that kind of insight that draws me to this site.

But Sensei, I’ll be disqualified!

BTW – we are 3-0 and dominated Texas Tech in Lubbock. Just sayin.

Oh, go to hell. Calling two straight running plays right into the asses of your own offensive linemen who haven’t moved the D-line a single inch forward then following that up with the trademark Greg Davis 2-yard screen is fucking brilliant. If, you know, you’re fucking Greg Davis.

Let’s face it, he’s an old coot, and he ain’t gonna be changing his ways. And whenever he tries something “different”, the players are so shocked that they can’t even make it work.

As long as Mack stays around, Greg Davis is staying around, so you mind as well get used to it.

@realmccoy,

And you actually think this team is good because we beat three unranked teams, including one that Boise St. put away IN THE FIRST QUARTER of their game? Seriously? LOL.

Amen, that drives me crazy, on all levels of football.

Kirk is a loose cannon. He got away with some flagrant taunting the other night. That’s the kind of shit that’s gonna get him kicked off the force.

Muschamp would be foolish to leave Texas for Georgia. The SEC is the graveyard of coaches: Philip Fulmer won 75% of his games, a national championship and 2 conference championships – fired from Tennessee; Tommy Tuberville led Auburn to an undefeated season and beat Alabama 7 times in 10 years – fired from Auburn; Mark Richt won over 75% of his games at Georgia and won the conference championship twice – on the hot seat; Steve Spurrier – won over 81% of his games at Florida, 6 conference championships and Florida’s first national championship – not invited back when he needed a job; Les Miles – won four bowl games, a conference championship and a national championship in his first five seasons at LSU – on the hot seat. When Mark Richt took the Georgia job, he was just as hot a prospect as Muschamp is now. He’s never had a losing season at Georgia and yet he’s on the hot seat. That is the insanity that is the SEC. Even if Muschamp has to wait a few years more to coach at Texas, his career will last many years longer than if he jumps to some cut-throat SEC school. The Texas job is THE BEST job in college football. Muschamp is smart enough to see that and will not leave.

I really liked the zip that GG put on the TD to Mike Davis. That was a solid play all around. I was feeling so good after that play, I was texting Tech friends with :))))) galore.

Groundhog Day. Every fucking year.

Unless the players take it on themselves to overcome the handicap. Helluva way to run an offense.

Mack: You straightened my offensive coordinator out?
Muschamp: He was banging cocktail waitresses two at a time. Players couldn’t get a drink at the table.

The only thing worse than Texas’s left side of the offensive line is….the right side. The OL coach continues to crank out uninspired, unmotivated lumps of dough.

They came out good, but by the end of the 2nd quarter, they looked like they were playing in double overtime and were totally gassed. I will give them credit in the 4th quarter for that ridiculous time of possession that frankly, won the game.

This one should have been put away early though. Texas gave Tech every opportunity to win that game, and we prevailed in spite of our handicaps and self throttling penalties and turnovers.

I hate Malcolm Williams. He will never be a complete consistent player. He will amaze and disappoint equally. Any long ball he caught all day was negated by letting a ball in his hands tip into an interception. We have waited two years for him to “break out”. He isn’t going to.

To me, Malcolm Williams is Greg Davis.

I’m ready to move on from Williams as well Saltshaker, but that last comment was just mean.

Absolutely love the beginning part of this thread. Better hope Echeese doesnt go on a manhunt for you. He will be lighting candles for the MBC because you have dishonored the man he worships in Greg Davis.

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