Future Big 12 Football Schedules Are In

Texas/ATM is already being moved off Thanksgiving to Saturday. You might as well push it back another week into December. Then the league (hopefully us) could use Thanksgiving as a rotating marque national game. I would like Texas to get a home game every Thanksgiving ala Dallas and Detroit. Our opponants would change, thus the Big 12 has a decent game to offer that night, and one in early December with us and ATM.

Can teams play 13 without a championship game?

If I’m reading this right, the 2012 schedule is:

Wyoming
New Mexico
Iowa State
Baylor
Missouri
A&M

What a joke this new conference is. Deloss gets his TV network and the fans get hosed.

Wow. Tech is hosed in terms of balance.
 
@ Texas, @ OU, @ Mizzou in 2011.
 
They’ll just need to accept a feast-famine deal. In odd years, they won’t contend. In even years, it sets up nicely. I wonder if that’s actually not a bad thing. If they can pair a good team with an even year, they have a very good shot at splitting a conference title. Maybe without a weighted schedule, it’s a series of just-misses.

the clapper -
 
They can. USC is doing it this year.

The games above are the scheduled home games for 2012.

Don’t all rush to the ticket window at once.

I thought playing Hawaii was the long standing exception to the NCAA game limits.

My chick just texted me…“Have you read The Eyes of Texas 2010 – Maple Street Press?”

She was reading it while getting the oil changed in her car. In the land of grease and red rags protruding from back pockets, Scipio is king.

So, looking at our schedule next year, all we have to do is be less bad than OU and we basically play for the National Championship. If we don’t play this year with next year in mind, offensively speaking (we already are on defense), I’ll lose it.

@ magnus -

Save yourself the lagtime and start looking for “it” now.

I already lost it, still cleaning up puke off my keyboard from the GD dry erase board column….but this is surprisingly more comforting. What a week.

I’m down for moving the OU game to the end of the season. The atmosphere in the stadium won’t change. It might be colder, but 11-0 UT vs. 11-0 OU almost every year would be entertaining. Who cares about the State Fair. Eating corn dogs can only be fun for so long. The league has to maximize exposure in any way possible.

I can see season tickets sales slipping. It could happen and after the UCLA debacle Mack won’t schedule any more BCS schools with a pulse.

Basically we are going to turn into a glorified version of Boise State. We play one or two big games and then go into hibernation the rest of the season. A&M’s attempt to go to the SEC doesn’t look so dumb right now.

How many times are we going to appear on ABC/ESPN? Twice, three times. OU, A&M, Tech, and maybe OSU if they are any good. Good luck getting Game Day to show up. Fuck Beebe and fuck Baylor.

You cannot play a 13 game schedule.

You may only play a 12 game schedule.

Yes, USC is playing a 13 game schedule this year. The reason they are doing so is that teams that play AT Hawaii in any given season are allowed to schedule an extra regular season game. I guess this is so they can make up some of the money it costs to travel to Hawaii??? I don’t know. Anyway, that’s the rule.

Your run of the mill teams cannot play 13.

Wrong -
 
Thanks for the Right.

I guess this is so they can make up some of the money it costs to travel to Hawaii??? I don’t know. Anyway, that’s the rule.

Yep it was put in as an incentive for people to play at Hawaii. I believe that there is also a 4-year rule — that is you can only schedule a trip to Hawaii every four years.

They had the same kind of rule in for basketball trips to Alaska, which is why the Great Alaska Shootout used to get great matchups — the three-game tournament up there only counted as one game on your schedule.

Um, is it possible that OU will have a bye week ahead of the RRR next year while UT plays on the road? OU’s Mizzou game date is listed TBD and they have no conference game scheduled Oct. 1. Do they have a non-conference game already scheduled that day?

Link for the entire Big 12 sched:

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1522978

We won’t see a full stadium in ‘12 until Mizzou, if then. That’s gross!

Yes. The 12 game limit is significant and much discussed in expansion . That’s why being in a suck conference with 10 teams penalizes Texas twice. Once for the quality of opponents and twice by Texas playing one fewer game than championship teams in competitive conferences. I don’t think Mack sees it that way, though.

PrimeTime,

You do realize that we already have games scheduled with UCLA, BYU, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Notre Dame, Cal, USC and Maryland over the next decade. And in only one of those seasons (before 2019-20, when we only have 1 OOC set so far) do we not have 2 of these teams on our schedule. And with our schedule completely filled through 2017, what games did you want Mack to be scheduling anyways?

I’ve already vented on AiT’s post, but I’ll just rehash here:

1. Big 10 already gets shafted for no games the last weekend
2. Style points and visibility gets you votes which matters for BCS
3. There’s been no concerted push for Big 12-2 conference games during non-con season

…will there really be a push? Do we really expect Dan Beebe to be smart enough and say, look, we need a bunch of Texas vs. Tech style games during non-con? Or we need Bedlam and Border War to be played the first week in December?

Further, why is there no staggering of bye weeks. I forget who (Huck maybe?), but someone on BC once brought up a great point that there were weeks where the Big 12 had no marquee home match-ups to speak of. That should NEVER happen. Why not stagger the off-weeks during conference season before big match-ups so that there’s (1) sufficient rest for players, and (2) always a Big 12 matchup worth watching? And further, without the CCG, why not push it so that ALL teams are playing during CC week, meaning that each team gets 2 bye weeks during the year and a little more R&R?

The logistics of putting forth this schedule, then playing schedule roulette to accomplish both of those questions is mind-boggling.

The Texas-Texas A&M game was the first Saturday in December the whole time I was in college (1988-92), I think.

I’m to miss the Colorado trip every 4 years. Boulder is a cool place. Lincoln, not so much although it’s been very good to the Horns.

Lincoln is the best game day environment in the league short of Dallas in October.

The real problem with the Big XII-2 can best be summarized by looking at October 8, 2011. The games are, in my perceived order of national interest:

UT vs. OU
A&M @ Tech
OSU @ KU
Kansas State @ Mizzou
Baylor @ ISU

By the time you get to the third game, there is ZERO national interest.

Clapper, the A&M-UT game will still be Thanksgiving. The date on the poorly informed (shocking) Big 12 website just represent that game week.

Too much $ for the vested parties to move it. For now.

“The Texas-Texas A&M game was the first Saturday in December the whole time I was in college (1988-92), I think.”

I remember watching the early 90’s Cowboys on Turkey day and then watch the Horns lose to the Ags in 91, 92, 93. 1990 was not on Thanksgiving I am assuming because A&M was probably caught with their hands in the cookie jar. 94 too.

Interesting. To clarify this year we go @ Tech and home vs aggy. So nothing really changes there. They’ll STILL be split.

Everything is basically the opposite of this year with one notable exception.

We play Okie Lite two years in a row at home. Gratuitous timing considering their sudden scoring proficiency. Strange also that the Kansas teams are gonna both be home or both be away each year. One would think those would be alternated given they are the farthest distance away.

Biggest question to me is this… WHO IS THE NEW NORTH TEAM??? Do we have 2 five team divisions now for other sports? Since BOTH CU and NU were in the north. Who gets to be in the north now??

“I remember watching the early 90′s Cowboys on Turkey day and then watch the Horns lose to the Ags in 91, 92, 93. 1990 was not on Thanksgiving I am assuming because A&M was probably caught with their hands in the cookie jar. 94 too.”

Looked it up and you’re right. A&M was a December game in 1978, 1979, 1984, 1989 and 1990. It was in early November in 1994. I believe Baylor was our Thanksgiving opponent each of those years.

So there’s definitely precedent for moving the A&M game to early December.

Biggest question to me is this… WHO IS THE NEW NORTH TEAM??? Do we have 2 five team divisions now for other sports? Since BOTH CU and NU were in the north. Who gets to be in the north now??

Divisions operated only for football and for basketball scheduling. No more North, no more South.

I must be Old,

I am not that old, so I am not sure on the earlier ones, but the ‘89-’90 and ‘94-’95 seasons were with A&M on NCAA probation for their cheating. So I’m not sure if those games being played not on Thanksgiving are applicable.

Now I’m not sure what the reasons for moving the games the other seasons you mentioned.

Lotta food for thought in the preceding.

What (some of) you may be missing is that part of the process that goes into team rankings (i.e., polls) is the won-loss record. I agree — IT LOOKS like the schedule across the Big Ten Lite (my term) is so-so/meh/yawn.

In fact, if conference teams WIN THEIR NON-CONFERENCE games, strong rankings will follow. And the perception of the league entering October won’t be Big 12-minus-2, but, wow, the Big 12 has four teams that are 4-0 and three others at 3-1. That’s a helluva a league.

Our TV footprint is horrible, particularly in the spaces between Texas-OU and the end of season rivalry games.

Hence the sudden change in OOC scheduling.

Our Big 12 glamor road spot is now…Columbia, Missouri. Oh.

We will sponsor your visit. Good times will be had.

The real problem with the Big XII-2 can best be summarized by looking at October 8, 2011. The games are, in my perceived order of national interest:

UT vs. OU
A&M @ Tech
OSU @ KU
Kansas State @ Mizzou
Baylor @ ISU

By the time you get to the third game, there is ZERO national interest.

Snob.

And, really, does A&M @ Tech have any national interest? One thing you have to remember is that Texas isn’t actually its own country.

Lincoln is the best game day environment in the league short of Dallas in October.

Lincoln is a great place to be on a college football Saturday. Those trips will be missed. October 30, 2010 might mark the last time I’m ever in that state. Odd.

FWIW, I’m pretty excited about the new schedules. I would have preferred the Big 10 just for better road trips, but this round robin business will be exciting.

“And, really, does A&M @ Tech have any national interest? One thing you have to remember is that Texas isn’t actually its own country.”

This is a good point. Half the time it doesn’t even seem like that game is on tv.

Phenom —
 
Do you think round robin gives Missouri a better shot at winning a conference title or did Mizzou have a better shot in the old Big 12 North?

Like jc said above, the only way for this to work and have any TV exposure is for the conference to purposely schedule a “good” game every week and not overlap. So…

UT-OU
UT-Tech
UT-A&M
Tech-A&M
OU-OSU
OU-Tech
OU-MU
UT-MU
Tech-MU
Tech-OSU

need to be scheduled on seperate weekends throughout the season and use any good non-conf games as the other “Games of the Week”. The SEC seems to have this down so they always have a game of interest for CBS to show and then ESPN/ABC, and apparently FSSW lately, pick up the other games.

Sailor, can I get that on a shirt or bumper sticker somewhere?

Do you think round robin gives Missouri a better shot at winning a conference title or did Mizzou have a better shot in the old Big 12 North?

Mizzou had a better chance the old way. Winning the north isn’t that hard and then it’s down to one game – a troublesome game, of course, but still just one game. Bringing it nine games will be tougher, but it’s a truer way to crown a champion and if Mizzou is going to see the next level – which is the goal, right? – we’ll have to deal with the round robin. And, this new Big 12 is much better than the MWC or CUSA or Big East Mizzou was staring at in those dark days of June 2010.

Sailor, such hubris for a team that averages 5 yards a play….

Beat OU!

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