Nebraska- 48 KSU- 13: How Dual Threat QBs Change Everything What That Means For Texas

No one’s ever going to accuse you of handing someone a shit sandwich and telling them it’s brisket.

This made a shitty day worse.

Completely on point. I’m told Case McCoy is even more mobile than his brother. Assuming that is true, he might be our best option for a productive offense in 2011 even if Gilbert has more pro potential. I’m convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that our recruiting philosophy at QB has to change. There’s simply no good reason not to stockpile dual-threat quarterbacks and build a college offense around them. It makes everything easier, like a point guard who can break down a defense with dribble penetration.

When the NU Tight Ends got wide open behind coverage, I imagined you swearing like Dennis Hopper having a flashback.

11 defenders must cross the line of scrimmage for our TE’s to get behind coverage.

Nebraska deserves credit for fully committing to the spread once they determined the quarterback that gave them the best chance to win was Martinez.

Here’s another piece of evidence that the dual-threat QB does so much for a college team: Auburn and Cam Newton. And Gus Malzahn has adapted there, too – going from a pass-happy show at Tulsa to a dual-threat game at Auburn.

I wonder if Nebraska can beat Bama in the NC game. Cuz it looks like that’s where we are headed.

Great writing. You have made clear points in many fewer words than I would have needed. A few weeks ago, I was calling for us to run GG more, or play one of the backups who could run. That’s not really addressing the problem, though. If we had VY V. 2.0 running this offense like it was 2005 again, we would still have an OC who resented it.

This is a spread offense with old-school WCO pass routes and the QB not part of the run game. That, in itself, is not what makes this a flawed scheme. Alabama and OU run spreads where the QB doesn’t run the ball, and are successful. The difference is that they have credible running games. We don’t, and the wretchedness of our running game is the root of our problems, I believe. I think this really goes back to what you wrote a couple of years ago about the disconnect between blocking schemes and run plays.

If we want to run the Texas 2004 – 2009 offense, we should get an OC who likes that kind of offense. If we want to run this one, we should get an OC who can devise a coherent ground game to support it.

Two things on my mind last night while watching this game:

1.) Nice to see a coaching staff that plays to their quarterback’s strengths.

2.) Aaron Green is going to Nebraska to be a part of that rusing attack (as if we didn’t know that already).

This sandwich tastes like shit, Greg Davis told me it was brisket.

We should be running what OU ran in ‘08. If we can’t do that, then go back to zone read and get Matt Davis in stat.

CS, Connor is rail thin. He’d be knocked out by carry number two. Connor Wood is more athletic than Gilbert. Not that I’m advocating for him to beat out GG. This whole thing just flat out sucks.

Please email this to david_yost@mutigers.com.

Blaine Gabbert will be a better NFL QB than college QB because we seem hell bent on emulating Greg Davis. This is sort of like choosing Natalie as your Facts of Life hook up.

After last night I finally came to the realization that it will take a true miracle for us to pull one out next week. L.David is going to be terrorizing us all night long. Even though it scares me for next week, Martinez is a true joy to watch, effortless speed, amazing how he can coast in from 20 yds out because he has already dusted the D.

CS makes a pretty decent point.

There are two ways to get the talent you need. One is to make the pitch that you can get them to the NFL — the other is promising them a system that can win lots of titles and poontang.

If you’re running a dual-threat QB system, don’t shoot for prototypical NFL passers. Let them go to Purdue and get their reps throwing the ball. Bring in a kid who can run, and wants to do it for the love of the game.

And the love of Waterford Crystal Football Trophies.

And poontang.

I know Gilbert’s not Vince Young or Colt McCoy in terms of running ability, but he’s not exactly Taylor Potts either…

He ran the ball pretty effectively at Lake Travis, I’ve wondered why the coaches are so hesitant to let him at least run it SOME in the current offense, shit, in the instances he has run the ball this year he hasn’t looked that bad. I know he’s not going to break off some 60 yard touchdown run, but it would definitely give opposing defenses more to think about.

I understand the injury concerns, but he’s not exactly a frail kid, besides, I think he’s much more likely to get injured standing back in the pocket with Britt Mitchell blocking for him than he is tucking it and picking up the first down.

Dude -
 
I’d only do that to an Ohio State fan.
 
CS -
 
I don’t see that in Case at all. Part of the “he’s better than Colt” stuff used to validate his ’ship.
 
The point guard comparison is an apt one.
 
parlin -
 
And your Nebraskan heart will swell just as your Texan brain explodes.

I wish you were wrong.

And if you were a coach you would understand it is brisket you heathens.

Unless we break every tendency we have had to open games I dont see how this doesnt turn into a bloodbath. I just see a bunch of three and outs stacking up.

I am a Scipio disciple, and generally agree with the anti-GD vitriol streaming across the Web this week. But in the interest of bipartisanship that I know Barking Carnival relishes, I want to point this out:

When asked today in Houston about the one area that most disappointed Davis about Garrett so far, he said it was GG’s lack of off-schedule plays. Said that Gilbert needs to be mobile in the pocket and make plays when things break down — though not with his feet but in buying time and throwing the ball. This seems to contradict your point that Davis wants to strangle the creative QB (or maybe I just misunderstand).

@magnus: Do you mean Case McCoy? Connor Wood looks fairly stout to me. Case is thin, but so was Colt at the same age. He’ll get bigger. Big enough to withstand a blow from a DT in a championship game because we have no other form of running attack? I don’t know.

@Scipio: Well…fuck.

Horns Law -

I couldn’t make the luncheon today, are there any other things of interest that greg davis was able to talk about that you’re willing to share?

Damon -
 
Nice one. I fully agree.
 
Taylor –
 
Thanks. I fully agree. Goes back to your the “Most important decision a head coach will make is his offense” theory. Which I agree with. You can recruit yourself out of defensive issues quickly and everyone is looking for the same dudes. Offense has a lot of ways to skin a cat and one man’s DB is another man’s elite QB.
 
GC -
 
Add him to a long list of better NFL than college QBs…
 
I like Gabbert a lot, but I see some of the same square pegs and round holes.
 
jon -
 
We’re talking about level of difference when I talk about a dual threat QB. I’m not talking about a kid who can run against Alice in a high school playoff game because they come out in a 3-2-6 defense. Shea Morenz was a 1,000+ yard high school rusher. It doesn’t mean shit. Gilbert is a reasonably athletic guy with some mobility. That’s it.
 
You’re offering an idea to tinker on the margins. I’m suggesting re-evaluting our core philosophy on O.

CS, yessir, I meant Case. Connor has good to great size and decent athleticism.

If you guys think Taylor Martinez is good, wait til you see Jamal Turner. That cat is going to light it up in their system. I know Ash is tearing it up (though his team isn’t) and he’d be the most athletic QB on the team this year, but I’m not sure if he’s the type of athlete the GD system needs.

HornsLaw, I almost went to that Davis thing today. Just couldn’t bring myself to go.

HornsLaw -
 
Thank you for your robust loyal opposition, sir! It is what blogs and republics are founded upon.
 
I’m amused to hear He Who Praises All Check Downs say that. Because Gilbert is playing like a joyless robot and that didn’t exactly typify his play at LT. He was a cool customer, but he had a gunslinger’s mentality. What changed?
 
What Greg Davis thinks he wants and what his offense creates are completely different things. And blaming the player is standard SOP for that guy. Look no further than our move away from recruiting dual threats despite the incredible run of 2004-2009. What better encapsulates his inability to distinguish cause and effect in his own O?
 
He’s also disappointed in our OL and RBs in running the ball and probably doesn’t understand why we did it better in 2004/2005 or in 1998.
 
That he just now noticed that Gilbert is less capable of buying time in the pocket than VY or Colt is forcing me to go an Advil run.
 
And, like jon, I would love a luncheon breakdown.

The last 2 QB’s OU’s recruited can run and can apparently chuck too. 1978 here we come.

There is a game of football that exists in his mind and on the chalkboard with lines and arrows and a guy getting blocked because your chalk says so

Don’t be ridiculous, Scipio. You know damned well that Davis uses a dry-erase board.

spider -
 
I’d always pictured clay tablet cuneiform with lines drawn by a stylus.

Scip, you suggest re-evaluating our core philosophy given the built in constraints caused by Davis, correct? Just curious, what would your offensive philosophy be if we didn’t have Davis? Given our ability to recruit NFL prototypes at every position if we evaluated and worked at it, would you opt for this type of system (Pro-style) if the right guy was running it?

I ask because I have been wondering what the hell I would do if given the chance. After watching Oregon dismantle a strong Stanford team, I was left wondering. What if we had stayed with the zone read, built around it and added to it like Oregon has done? But then again there is something to be said for being able to line up and pound the ball or be able to throw to any spot on the field at any point in time. Unfortunately, we will never know about either option as long as coaches remain intact.

The luncheon with “He Who Praises All Check Downs” (that’s brilliance, Scipio) was fascinating from both a football and a sociological perspective. Sociologically, it was impressive to see the embodiment of the pro-GD, anti-GD Internet debate rage in real life. There were a couple of truly aggressive questions (one that prompted mild supportive applause) and a palpable air that a large portion of the group wanted nothing more than dine on GD sweetbreads.

That said, Davis was cool, funny, analytical, did not dodge (most) questions, and came off like a guy you would hire for the job. Some striking points:
- he often cited the statistics that they use to measure the offense’s performance (acceptable % of dropped passes over the year (7%); acceptable interception rate (1 in every 33 passes)) and that the staff “is like baseball coaches” in that they have stats for everything.
- compared coaching to raising kids, mentioning the need to balance discipline with fun (in response to question on Curtis Brown’s UCLA-game brain lock)
- said that Nebraska is actually less multiple than other defenses in the Big XII and that they will give us some chances for double moves and to go downfield.
- did acknowledge that the staff needs to do a better job getting Monroe the ball.
- admitted that it is yet to be determined who the go-to receiver is in this offense, but thought Mike Davis would grow into role;
- Said the emphasis at the beginning of the OU game was to be a little conservative b/c the game is so emotional and can be easily lost at the beginning (sounding very Mack-like in those comments); that said, he regretted that decision after seeing Garrett’s second half performance.

Luncheon, cont.

- described Garrett as excelling at answering the questions on the headset about what he saw on a given play, and remarked that Garrett and the receivers are doing a good job with blitz recognition (which is interesting since it seems teams aren’t blitzing us as much).
- said the beloved check-down receivers are the proper read b/c that is where the defense dictates the ball should be thrown, but followed that up by saying he (Davis) needs to do a better job making that 3rd and 4th receiver a guy who can make plays in space

“That said, Davis was cool, funny, analytical, did not dodge (most) questions, and came off like a guy you would hire for the job.”

I always hear this. Funny, what with all the games we’ve won, and Greg being such a people person, that he still gets not a sniff. Huh.

That was depressing. Thanks Scip.

Lets recruit a JUCO from the SEC land and turn him into our next dual threat QB.

Question. Did Sherrod Harris ever have any dual-threat capabilities? I honestly do not remember. John Chiles says hi too.

“Said the emphasis at the beginning of the OU game was to be a little conservative b/c the game is so emotional and can be easily lost at the beginning (sounding very Mack-like in those comments); that said, he regretted that decision after seeing Garrett’s second half performance.”

Jesus Fucking Christ.

“– said that Nebraska is actually less multiple than other defenses in the Big XII and that they will give us some chances for double moves and to go downfield.”

He must have been feeling the heat in the room if he dropped this pearl. I’ve met GD. Greg’s a good guy.

Kasey: Harris routinely broke off runs in the Orange and White games. That’s really all we ever saw of him.

– said the beloved check-down receivers are the proper read b/c that is where the defense dictates the ball should be thrown, but followed that up by saying he (Davis) needs to do a better job making that 3rd and 4th receiver a guy who can make plays in space

You have got to be kidding me. He just realized that Greg Smith is not a guy that can make plays in space? That pretty much sums up why he is a complete dumbass.

Barton brings up a good point. Mack’s vision is to develop a multiple, pro-style offense where the best recruits prepare for the NFL. What price we pay for the long, painful transition with Davis at the helm is to be determined, and may never come to pass as we’ve seen this year.

And, thanks for the update HornsLaw. Davis’ PR acumen and presence should never be underestimated. Mack & Greg dismiss internet and call-in criticism as “the crazies.”

“– said the beloved check-down receivers are the proper read b/c that is where the defense dictates the ball should be thrown, but followed that up by saying he (Davis) needs to do a better job making that 3rd and 4th receiver a guy who can make plays in space.”

No fucking shit. This is precisely why I didn’t go.

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Barton, it would have been nice if he had gotten on that before, oh, the TX/OU game.

“Throwing red meat on a Friday”

If every offense was as big a risk averse pussies as we are, no 3rd and longs would ever be converted. Every defense on the planet would gladly give you 5 yards on 3rd and 8. That is what they are giving you dipshit because that means they win! That is 100% success rate for them and 100% fail rate for you. What the hell am I missing? Is he so smart that he has lapped me into some kind of 6th dimension where every shred of common sense that I possess is wrong?

When asked today in Houston about the one area that most disappointed Davis about Garrett so far, he said it was GG’s lack of off-schedule plays. Said that Gilbert needs to be mobile in the pocket and make plays when things break down — though not with his feet but in buying time and throwing the ball. This seems to contradict your point that Davis wants to strangle the creative QB (or maybe I just misunderstand).

You realize he just admitted that he needs his quarterback to be able to improvise and salvage his shitty play design and playcalls on a frequent basis, right? The man now consciously depends on his quarterback to freelance and make plays out of nothing. Most of the time an OC would just be thankful that sometimes his QB can do that. Davis’ offense now explicitly requires it.

Eskimo — I actually don’t think they dismiss the criticism as “the crazies.” I think they acknowledge the criticism as implicitly contrarian, and know what is going to be said, but just accept it as part of the job (i.e., if we threw the ball long every time and lost, people would call for a short passing/power running game).

I got the impression of a golfer in their approach to the game. They have all the shots, they play the shot that they think gives them the best chance, and they sense that sometimes things don’t go right. They make concerted choices about the big picture (stay conservative, don’t lose the game, take what the defense gives) and try to adapt a game plan within that big picture. It felt very methodical and pragmatic; like they do have a plan, but that they feel like the plan won’t always work.

I am not making a judgment about whether this approach is right or wrong, that’s just my impression.

Hornslaw,

So our inept staff is Ian Baker Finch then?

Jean Van de Velde, imo.

MBV: So did Jeremy Hills.

Nothing harder to defend in college football than a dual-threat qb. So, of course, Mack and Greg [after winning an NC with one] go out and promptly recruit a rosterfull of statues.

Yeah, I was just saying that he could run.

Hills routinely breaks off runs in practice. He seems like a guy that’s sort of in between Fozzy and DJ Monroe. Not sure why he can’t contribute.

Barton: Even worse, they’re French!!

Ball security and pass blocking are what I’ve always heard.

I sure wish he was at safety.

If anyone is accustomed to taking what someone gives them…….

So you are basically saying we should have taken Sheppard instead of Gilbert. Look how that turned out for LSU. If we had done that we would probably have no viable QB right now. Every one of you on this site right now wanted GG or RS that year, 50-50 give or take. Can you imaging the vitriol on this site if we had to throw RS or Harris into that game last year instead of GG?

Look at the recent national champs before and after Vince. A pantheon of dual threat names like Krenzel, Leinart, Flynn, Mauck, Heupel, Weinke, McElroy . Ok so there was Tebow. That’s a grand total of 2 – VY and Tebow.

I know you are saying that with OUR system we have to have a dual threat, but I’m saying that is a fatal flaw unless you have a kid like VY or Tebow. How many of those are there around?

You know what wins NC’s year in and year out? Defense and physical offensive lines. We ain’t got one of those, haven’t had since Blalock, Studdard, and Sendlein left.

Barry Sanders wouldn’t have played for us because he can’t block. Why is that the coaches claim such a premium on RBs blocking but dont seem to care whether or not our OL, WR, or TE blocks anyone?

Whoever -
 
So you are basically saying we should have taken Sheppard instead of Gilbert. Look how that turned out for LSU. If we had done that we would probably have no viable QB right now.
 
Yes, very perceptive. That’s the point of my entire piece. And that’s why I titled it “Why we should have taken Sheppard instead of Gilbert.”
 
I was also going to title it “Buffoons with minimal reading comprehension condensing complex ideas into stupid false choices in one single recruiting year” but I thought that title was too busy.
 
Here’s a secret: you get to recruit a QB every year. And Robert Griffin and Darron Thomas are one of many dual threat QBs that would be on our roster if we’d bothered to line up and cause and effect and offered them.

Two words: Russell Shepard. We chose poorly.

Yes, Gilbert will likely have a solid college career and start at QB in the NFL. And Shepard will probably toil away as a sporadically used specialty back for Les Miles before playing RB or WR at the next level. Even so, I firmly believe we would have been a lot better off with Shepard running the zone read not only this year but in the future as well.

Also, Ash may be decently athletic, but JW Walsh is the guy we needed in this class. He would have been perfect for us.

We took the right QB. If you admit that and enjoy watching him grow you will be happier.

Shepard over Gilbert? SERIOUSLY?

I initially liked Walsh over Ash, not it’s a pick’em. Ash is killing it this year.

If we want a spread offense where the QB is a threat to scramble we have two options: Manziel, or Turner.

I’d love to see us target Matt Davis next year.

This post/thread = Requiem for a Dream: Great work by all, but I couldn’t do it again because now I just want to kill myself.

Walsh is an extremely good runner, magnus.

Taylor Martinez, Denard Robinson, Pat White, and freshman/sophomore year Vince Young aren’t exactly Dan Marino throwing the ball. Yet all their teams had better offenses than we do now or than we did in the 99-02 era.

Martinez threw 7 passes last night, and his big play was a deep ball he underthrew by 20 yards. We rolled Nebraska and A&M during Vince’s freshman year throwing less than 10 passes each game.

We finished near the top in total offense in 03 and 04 despite having virtually no passing game. We are currently ranked what, like 80th?

I am to the point where I am convinced that a legit athlete running the read option is a better offense than the Greg Davis offense with a pocket passer, regardless of how talented that pocket passer is and how horrible the read option guy is at passing.

As is Ash.

I just don’t think they’re Manziel or Turner.

“Martinez threw 7 passes last night, and his big play was a deep ball he underthrew by 20 yards.”

And that dude was more open than anyone has been on our team in two years. Funny how that works.

Everyone that I have talked to that has seen Manziel in person was blown away. Admittedly the one whose opinion carries the most weight said that he wasn’t sure how he would translate at the college level unless he could put on more weight and not lose a step. But the fact that Oregon wants him is good enough for me. Hell, they should send us half of the crystal ball they are going to win for letting them come in here and get their pick of dual threat QBs.

I really like what Ash has done this year, but I’ve got a feeling the Walsh kid will be a burr under our saddle for years to come. Hopefully he’ll torture Big Game Bob as well.

Scip-

Did you have a strong opinion back during the Russell Shepard stuff? Just curious.

I think “O blocks X, no I don’t know who’s in the game, and send down for another of those sausage wraps” is GD’s mission statement or something. At least it’s printed prominently on his play sheet. I remember a game against ISU at DKR where we ran a toss sweep with Ced Benson that was blown up because blocking dynamo BJ Johnson was over matched in his blocking assignment against the LB he motioned to crack back on. I’m sure he screamed “we had that blocked!” as masticated pieces of sausage stained the booth window and landed conveniently upon his play sheet for later consumption.

I swear we would ask the same of Brock Fitzhenry while sitting Mal Williams and be just as befuddled as to why the play failed.

NU is fun to watch. They remind me very much of our 04 team except that they have no peer in this shitbird conference.

Being as small as he is, I’m surprised Martinez isn’t more dinged up. I doubt he makes it the whole season at this pace. I don’t think our defense will be as forgiving as K-State either.

If we can hold onto the ball and keep the penalties to a minimum, I think we will be in it. Regardless of shitty play calling.

Also, considering our team with Robert Griffin III just made me sad.

Having had Vince Young on your team and not using that to pick the low-hanging fruit of elite dual threat QBs for the next 10 years is Davitarded.

“Davis’ vision of college QBing is a 6-4 kid with a gun throwing from a pocket, executing an intricate passing offense, with or without a running game”

In some ways, John Mackovic never left.

Thanks for the punch in the junk.

GG is essentially Natalie Portman and GD is 1999 George Lucas. Wooden, hollow performances from a proven performer under an uninspired director who, in retrospect, might have just previously succeeded in a situation that was too good to fail.

I suppose that would make 2005 Star Wars and 2009 Return of the Jedi. Alabama were the Ewoks that kind of screwed up the end of a great era.

Prepare your anus.

Actually, the four-year span between 2005 and 2009 is more analogous to the three years between Star Wars and the end of Empire, with Han frozen in carbonite.

“said that Nebraska is actually less multiple than other defenses in the Big XII and that they will give us some chances for double moves and to go downfield.”

I am willing to bet the Pelinis are saving some things for us, not that they’ll need to get too fancy. I expect them to unleash total destruction on our joke of an offense. If GDGD (I like that acronym) was actually foolish enough to utter this, they will make him regret it.

Scipio said: one man’s DB is another man’s elite QB

And is his name DeMarco? He did play a little QB in HS, right? It already doesn’t work, so how much worse could it get?

unsub1 said: Alabama were the Ewoks that kind of screwed up the end of a great era.

I’ve always hated the Ewoks. They remind me of the dwarf who kicked my ass when I refused to hold his balls so they didn’t drag in the sand while he fucked my sister.

"Said the emphasis at the beginning of the OU game was to be a little conservative b/c the game is so emotional and can be easily lost at the beginning (sounding very Mack-like in those comments); that said, he regretted that decision after seeing Garrett’s second half."

GD gets partial credit on his OU test, because he was sure right about that.

Let’s all calm down a little on the criticisms like “Gilbert isn’t mobile” and “we should bench him for someone who can run”.

For one, Gilbert is every bit as mobile as Colt was, he doesn’t abandon the pocket as quickly. If he did you sould see the same kind of running and curse how our only decent quarterback was going to get injured.

For another, Texas can succeed, even in the Davis offense, with Gilbert once he is trusted with more throws and freedom and once he has greater comfort with Davis and co.

Nothing would make me happier than Davis’ departure and his conservative plans are absolutely killing us. Also, I would love to run the shotgun-read since it’s the best offense in football. But, Gilbert is a guy you absolutely take and adapt to.

NR, I hope you are right about GG. I know nothing myself, but all my non-Big12 co-workers say they have not been impressed with GG since he took his first snap against Bama. Only time will tell.

Hard to argue with the unique problems dual-threat QB’s pose to even the best defenses. OU’s defenses of the early 2000’s under Mike Stoops were tremendous but still struggled with Reggie McNeal, Michael Bishop, Ell Roberson and others.

Question: is a dual-threat QB necessary to overcome GD’s flaws? The answer, so far, appears to be yes. The immediate question, then, is how soon can GG shrug off his shackles, trust himself and start making plays? Even if he does that, will this group of under-achieving WR’s start helping him with better efforts at getting open, let alone blocking?

In sum, if Davis fails to build a powerhouse offense while Gilbert and the rest of this talent is here that would be the equivalent of George Washington losing the first presidential election.

It took VY two years to figure it out, and even then it came largely because, to paraphrase Mack’s favorite line, they stopped coaching him. (Do you ever wonder if Mack thinks about the irony in that reflection?)

Great athletes can always overcome tepid coaching, but it’s hard to see how the kid at Oregon makes Texas a better team. Oregon actually has very few “off-schedule” plays – they’re more bust-or-boom. Oregon’s scheme gives the QB one or two quick decisions at the start of every play, and away they go. You rarely if ever see a QB dancing around in an Oregon backfield.

In other words, it still takes solid coaching to make most of these DT-QBs look good.

One final thought: Texas 20, Nebraska 17. You heard it here first.

Tee won the MNC for Phil Fulmer. . . . not Peyton. Just remember that, Cats.

Agreed that we are the only program that places a premium on blitz protection. It’s getting old

For our running backs

One final thought: Texas 20, Nebraska 17

Right. Six FGs and a safety… assuming that Martinez goes down in Q1 with a 14-0 lead and Jackson Jeffcoat’s helmet up his ass, and Green and not-Green throw eight interceptions. If Iowa State can do it, we can do it.

I amazed there wasn’t someone at the luncheon who didn’t go up to GD & kick him in the balls.

Granted, you’d be hard-pressed to find ‘em, but the attempt would’ve been much appreciated.

And should you face legal troubles, I’m sure there are enough Longhorns fans out there who hate his guts that we’d scrape together quite the legal team to defend you.

I think we have the right QB, and no losses, if these three things happen:

- Sherrod Harris stays and turns out to be an effective back-up. This allows GG to run more often.
- Our OL recruiting, retention and development from 2006-2009 wasn’t a disaster.
- Our RB recruiting, retention and development from 2006-2009 wasn’t a disaster.

While I agree the dual-threat QB is a very popular and successful trend these days, there’s no reason an NFL-type QB can’t succeed with the proper supporting cast. If UT has a solid OL and blue chip RB, we’re undefeated. Throw in a TE that can catch and get down field, and we’re possible NC contenders. (Imagine having Blaine Irby this season)

Our problem isn’t the lack of dual-threat QB, which I would be happy to have, it’s the Bermuda Triangle that our offense has become.

Our offense is a joke. We cant run the ball and we dont throw deep. WTF? H-Back? TE? Fullback?

Getting rid of Gilbert to find a more suitable QB for Greg’s offense is like getting rid of your classic mustang for your complaining fat ugly bitch of a girlfriend who everybody hates and makes you want to furiously shove bamboo shoots underneath your fingernails.

It’s not gonna happen, no way, no freaking way! That car is gonna sit out on that drive way, get neglected and collect dust like a champion!

Ok, I might have some other issues. The truth is, Gilbert was the most highly recruited QB in the Nation and unlike our WRs and TEs, he has done a good job. Gilbert isn’t going away anymore than Greg Davis is.

I kind of see some of your point regarding 11 on 11, but don’t go crazy on us. Gilbert is a blindfolded, must take every time. What we are missing this season is that GG has the potential to be the second best QB in Texas and college football history. He has that much potential and had us all excited for this year after his gutty performance in the NCG. It’s just a disgusting shame how he has been used so far this year. He is an awesome gunslinger, so we get him throwing his gun sideways trying to take out the defense with a butt to the head.

Right on Republic. And now I can rest in peace. SC’s hammering of Bama just now was the first good thing going for my football year yet!

And now we can stop hearing about McElroy’s never loss record? This game should have been us last year. Now I am depressed again.

Ya know, I’m watching LSU and realizing that you gotta be careful when picking your dual threat types. Jordan Jefferson wouldn’t be the answer to any of these type of questions at Texas.

Cam Newton, on the other hand…

Urban Meyer thinks my post may have a point. John Brantley isn’t so sure.

Aw, stop your cry babying. Me, I’m looking forward to seeing Mack and Greggy get embarrassed in Lincoln. I hope the announcers start mocking them, too. That would be sweet.

By the way, as long as Nebraska isn’t favored by more than 3 TDs, I’m taking them. Heh heh. Make me rich, Mack Brown!!!

I love Garret Gilbert, and was sickened to see his dad putting his hands over his eyes. It seems pretty certain that it wasn’t over the play of his son. I don’t care what Davis says in public to the Longhorn faithful. It’s time for Davis to put up or shut up. It’s not on Gilbert or anyone else, it’s on Davis, and by organizational structure, Mack. Let’s get the show on the road, Mack.

Now, on to another conference and another mobile qb, Cam Newton, whoa! He looks more like Vince than anyone I’ve seen. I was impressed.

Hook ’em!

Here is youtube video of Matt Davis’s first and only game this year.

Anyone remember the last time Texas was a Double-Digit Underdog?

Or in a related question, if they do not open as a DD underdog to NU, anyone headed to Vegas this week?

UT is +10 vs. NU this weekend.

@Bbob Texas was a 12.5 point dog to the Sooners in 2007. We covered but lost the game.

Texas has only been a dog of any kind about a dozen times in the 2000s (Alabama NCG, Ohio State 2006, USC 2005, multiple OU games, etc.)

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