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Colt McCoy's Jersey To Be Retired

#12 will be retired this year. Congratulations to Colt. I'm happy for a great guy and a great Longhorn. He joins the following Longhorn legends:

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Vince Young (30-2 / National Champion / Maxwell / Davey O’Brien / retired #10)
Earl Campbell (Heisman Trophy & Doak Walker / retired #20)
Tommy Nobis (National Champion / All American LB / retired #60)
Ricky Williams (Heisman Trophy & Doak Walker / retired #34)
Bobby Layne (All American / retired #22)

That's rather elite company when you consider the quality of players that have come through this program. Of our now six retirees, only one is a defensive player and Nobis actually played both ways as a MLB and OG. Supposedly, he was just as elite as a blocker.

Colt's list of bona fides is long and impressive:

- 45 wins
- 13,253 passing yards
- 112 passing TDs
- 1589 yards rushing, 20 TDs
- Two BCS Bowls
- Big XII Offensive Player of the Year
- First Team All American by Associated Press
- Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award
- Davey O’Brien Award
- Archie Manning Award
- Maxwell Award
- Walter Camp Award

That's a rather solid resume.

Philosophically, I'm against jersey retirements. Not because he wasn't a great player for us, but because I think jersey retirements are a celebration of self and the individual while football is the sport that most embodies the team. I readily concede that this objection is curmudgeonly, but I'm curious as to what you think?

Does Colt belong with the Longhorn Immortals?

Is there anyone missing from this group that deserves to be there?

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I wish that we had some kind of very exclusive Ring of Honor, but left all numbers in circulation. Or treat some of the more special ones like we used to treat #60.

But within the framework of how we do this, Colt definitely deserves it. Two-time Heisman finalist and all-time winningest QB makes it an easy decision.

Wish it wasn’t during the Baylor game though.

by nordberg on Oct 13, 2010 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Colt was the second best #12 on Texas last year.

I have no problems with teams retiring numbers. I think it’s a great way to keep names timeless.

A retired number is no more self serving than winning the Heisman, imho.

Retire Ernie Koy’s #23!!!

by magnusbleuveigner on Oct 13, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

They should put a pair of signed quan and jordan receiving gloves with that jersey…

by Merhorn on Oct 13, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I personally would like to see number 33 retired in honor of the legendary Scott Derry.

by hornseverywhere on Oct 13, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Whither Ryan Perrilloux? Funny how things work out. Congrats to Colt, winningest quarterback in the history of college football.

by Sailor Ripley on Oct 13, 2010 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

he was also 2006 big 12 offensive freshman of the year

by scally on Oct 13, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

“I personally would like to see number 33 retired in honor of the legendary Scott Derry.”

We retired Derry’s number in College Station at the Fran firing.

/fully aware Michael now wears 33

by ColoradoAg on Oct 13, 2010 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Congrats to Colt but without Jordan Shipley I don’t think he is anything more than above average.

by paleohorn on Oct 13, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m also opposed to jersey retirements when we could easily recognize them with a ring of honor.

We’ve established a policy of honoring National Player of the Year winners , with a couple of exceptions granted for Layne and Nobis. And with the exception of Nobis, great defensive players and linemen in general are being slighted with this system. No defensive backs, or receivers, either. Not to mention guys like undefeated and national champion, James Street, who wasn’t an All-American or POY, just a winner and a legend. So, the selection criteria are seriously flawed, imo.

None of that is meant to slight Colt in any way. I would have him in my ring of honor, too.

by Blueshorn on Oct 13, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

nordberg -
 
That’s how I feel about it. An exalted group, but no numbers retired.
 
magnus -
 
The Heisman is awarded by an external body. This is an internal recognition determined solely by the university.
 
Merhorn -
 
I like it.
 
paleo -
 
Colt put up a very good year when Shipley was still the ghost.
 
Blues -
 
You’re with me and nordberg in the Ring of Honor camp.

by Scipio Tex on Oct 13, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Paleohorn – then you’re an idiot.

by Truck's Son on Oct 13, 2010 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I liked the old system of only retiring Heisman winners’ numbers, but then Vince got fucked over and we had to blow it up.

I guess this means we’ll never have a 12th Man program where one of our students gets to play on kickoffs to symbolize our burning desire to be prepared and hullabaloo sit down bus driver. That’s some bad bull right there! Sssssssssssssssssssss!

by Woody Bombay on Oct 13, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s being proven this year more than ever how important Colt and Shipley were.

by Savage Henry on Oct 13, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

As great as Colt was, and we are just now beginning to see his true greatness with the hot pile of suck that is our O, I feel his career is more of a what if than anything. What if our coaches didn’t run that sneak against K-State? What if Gideon managed to catch that ball? What if we don’t run that awful option play against ’Bama? No doubt Colt was great, but he seemed to always be the bridesmaid.

Is it just me, but does any one else feel that Cedric Benson has been put to the back burners in Texas football history? He obviously wasn’t Ricky or Earl, but he should get some recognition.

by PrimeTime on Oct 13, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I think all college football teams should retire #15 in recognition of what Tim Tebow contributed to the sport.

by Canuck Horn on Oct 13, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Colt deserves it for the chick he just married, if nothing else.

by nordberg on Oct 13, 2010 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Just retiring national players of the year or heisman winners only validates a system that only gives such awards to QBs and sometimes RB’s. A lot of our players that won national defensive awards are just as deserving. DJ, Orakpo, Huff, Ross.

But then, some of our all americans are just as good. Blalock, Crowder, Leonard Davis, Hampton, Hills, Jammer, Kindle, Redding, Shipley, Vasher, Roy, etc. And then there’s other favorite longhorns that have to be included — Lamar Houston

If we retired everyone deserving we wouldn’t have any numbers left. I like the team concept/no jerseys retired. Big ring of honor with Vince as the lord of the ring.

by Texastough on Oct 13, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

You know you’ve made it when you are tuned into an animated Minotaur.

by Sailor Ripley on Oct 13, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

“Colt was the second best #12 on Texas last year.”

Yep.

by MisterLoki on Oct 13, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

“You know you’ve made it when you are tuned into an animated Minotaur.”

Awesome. Laughed out loud.

by JUICE on Oct 13, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

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This I agree with. I know it’s impossible, but I’d like Earl Thomas to get some recognition as maybe one of the most talented players to ever set foot on campus, offense or defense. I dont think Texas fans will appreciate just how good he was until his 10th pro bowl. Guy had Ed Reed skills from day 1, but was always overshadowed in the QB-hero-worship culture that we live in.

oh well.

by Joey Tex on Oct 13, 2010 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Only longhorns in history to be in the top 10 in heisman voting for 2 years:
Bobby Layne
Ricky Williams
Colt McCoy

by number2 on Oct 13, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

We’re gonna run out of numbers….. after Greg retires.

by Bryan on Oct 13, 2010 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

No problem with the retirement, though I often find it humorous how quickly we retire jerseys for recent players, when it took years for others to get the same recognition. I understand for some it’s obvious they were great and should get an honor (jersey or ring), but a week after they leave seems a tad quick.

I am for a ring of honor over jersey retirements. Like the #60, I enjoy it when kids come in and want the honor of living up to a jersey. That’s awesome.

It does drive me crazy how small the numbers are in the North End. There’s plenty of space there, bump that shit up. The names and years are barely legible from the South End.

by slugfest on Oct 13, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I am not particularly thrilled that Texas has enthusiastically joined in the college football jersey equivalent of grade inflation, but so be it.

by srr50 on Oct 13, 2010 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Some of you are missing what this is about. It’s about bringing maximum recognition and honor to the University of Texas. It’s not about being the best athlete or baddest dude or even the best player.

by Whoever on Oct 13, 2010 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

No

by fear_the_cow on Oct 13, 2010 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

+1 merhorn

by wisconsinhornybadger on Oct 13, 2010 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

retire the jersey but not the number

by hornin hong kong on Oct 13, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

How about we retire GD’s offense? Big ceremony and pretend it is a great honor, perhaps Mack will fall for it.

by Hmmmmm on Oct 13, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Primus inter pares.

Hang #12 on the wall.

by BEHorn on Oct 13, 2010 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

McCoy’s record pales beside that of James Street. I guess I am too old to appreciate a bunch of stats and no hardware.

by Bill Bixbly on Oct 13, 2010 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Woodrow Bombay

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you typed…and I would have paid good money to see you say that in person.

by TTP, Fred on Oct 13, 2010 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Why do they retire jersey numbers and not allow players to wear them? I remember Tommy Nobis saying he was against them retiring his number and not allowing future players to have his number. At this rate, Ryan Roberson’s number 33 will be off the shelf and we will have six number 4’s our there.

by Mysterious Package on Oct 13, 2010 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a hard time seeing retiring a number for one Big XII championship. Arguably he got fucked out of a Heisman and a shot at a crystal ball, but those are the breaks. Put Colt in this seasons offense and we’d just see more quickly (and accurately) thrown dropped passes and probably him leaving the field on a stretcher as he would be our entire running game (with possibly more putrid blocking than last year). I wish Shipley would have had a 15th year of eligibility, would have helped GG out a lot.

Maybe I’m just cynical but this just seems like a Mack/Dodds distraction from how quickly fucked this season is becoming.

by AZHorn on Oct 13, 2010 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Then again, can’t really argue with nordberg’s logic for retiring Colt’s number.

by AZHorn on Oct 13, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice try Bill. And it’s funny, since conference championships and BCS games are oh so common in college station.

by nordberg on Oct 13, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

We should retire it with an asterisk next to it.*

by Homesick Alien on Oct 13, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Colt had the toughest job of any Texas QB in following the greatest college football player to ever play the game. He then went out and won more college football games than any other college QB in history. That takes a lot of skill, a lot of good to great players around you, and a little bit of luck. I can see retiring the number just for the job he did in following a legend.

However.

I’m about hardware. It’s tough to award the retirement based on one conference championship.

by uthookem on Oct 13, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I have more of an issue with Mack having only 2 big 12 titles than colt’s jersey being retired for getting 1 of those, but that’s a different thread. Congrats to Colt.

by ballrific on Oct 13, 2010 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree with the Ring of Honor over number retirement, but since it’s already an established tradition, hell yes Colt deserves it. Basing it on how many conference or national titles the player was a part of is just dumb. How many conference/national titles did Earl and Ricky win? 2 conference titles for Ricky and 1 for Earl (tied for another); Ricky never sniffed a national championship game and Earl played for one national title, when Texas got hammered by ND. Yeah, I know they were Heisman winners. Colt should’ve been too. He deserves the honor.

by burnt orange outrage on Oct 14, 2010 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

A lot of players have won one confernce title. David Green is not a Georgia icon. Merely a really good player for them.

by fear_the_cow on Oct 14, 2010 2:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Colt was the best player in the country in 2008. Here’s a stat for you (you would know it if you read the 2010 “Eyes of Texas” magazine)-
Colt had 5 different game winning drives in the final 2 minutes of the game. That’s more than Vince Young, Tim Tebow, and Sam Bradford…added together. Colt won a bunch of games and he had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Colt is unique among retired Longhorn numbers in that he is the only one who was not head and shoulders athletically. Layne was a big QB for his day, and Nobis, Campbell, Williams and Young were all rare combinations of size, strength and speed. The fact remains that Colt got it done anyway.

by TaylorTRoom on Oct 14, 2010 6:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Ring and add:

Street

by BeatenDeadHorse on Oct 14, 2010 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  

This is going to come back and bite us when number @# wins the Heisman in 2053.

by Magnificent Bastard on Oct 14, 2010 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

This kind of smacks of a Mack Brown juice boxes for everyone move…Colt was a dynamic player, and certainly in the pantheon of UT greats. But he’s just outside Layne/Nobis/Campbell/Williams/Young territory.

Or to put it this way, if you had to choose from Colt and the other five up there to win one game from their respective eras, how many names would you call before his?

by CasualObserver on Oct 14, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

@ hornseverywhere………still peeing my pants on the Scott Derry……

@ Sailor “You know you’ve made it when you are tuned into an animated Minotaur” FTW.

Retiring jerseys is pretty stupid. It’s a dumb way to honor someone……by removing a number from the lineup? That sounds more like a dishonor type of punishment for a disgrace.

In case nobody but Magnificent Bastard has noticed, single and double digit numbers are a finite resource. So until we get off a base 10 system, you gotta think about this.

Why don’t we retire their jocks, or face masks, or maybe the jock and facemask? Formal retirement is a crappy honor, and I bet retirees miss seeing their number out there.

A statue is much better. We just retire jerseys like blind lemmings because we aren’t sure what else to do. It’s like slipping a $20 in a birthday card because you forgot to go shopping.

By this methodology, we could argue to close the stadium and never play on the field again…..in his honor. Just go build a new one. For great President’s and Generals, why don’t we retire their suits or uniforms?

And President Roosevelt, “we hereby retire your suit size 40 Long, as a token of the greatest honor we can bestow upon thee for your service to our country, no one shall ever were a suit your size again!” Sweet!!

Like when Commodus said to his father Caesar after the Roman victory in Germania. “I shall sacrifice a hundred bulls in your honor father!” His father replied “Save the bulls, honor Maximus, he won the war”.

Maybe we should just leave it at that.

by Saltshaker on Oct 14, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s too soon – there’s a reason the pros arent eligible for HOF the year after they retire. This smells to me more like an opportunistic marketing/recruiting/PR deal. Drayton McLane would be all for it.

by GM Platter on Oct 14, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

“Congrats to Colt but without Jordan Shipley I don’t think he is anything more than above average.”

I guess you missed the 2006 season.

by Randy Watson on Oct 15, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

This fresh retire is stupid, ridiculous, and overall lame. And why now? Before a big game? Freekin Coaches workin the Fans. I think the world of Colt. I mean No one can ever be 10 or 12 forever? Does MB think we don’t have history here, and it all started when they got here? They ain’t gonna retire Ingram, you can bank on that.

by Orange River on Oct 15, 2010 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

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