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Dick Tomey Hired As Outside Consultant

The former Longhorn Assistant Head Coach and head man at Arizona and San Jose State is now in the employ of the University of Texas. Sources close to the program tell us he's been hired to evaluate the program top to bottom from strength and conditioning to concepts on both sides of the ball. Additionally, the grizzled veteran coach should be able to address the the Longhorns' puported lack of discipline off the field magnified by Cleve Bryant's indiscretion.

If you were born after 1980, I'm talking about 6th street, holla!

Tomey was seen on the sidelines of the Baylor game, so he should be able to hit the ground running in his new role. I mean that was Baylor. Baylor? Yes, Baylor.

In case you've forgotten Tomey, along with Greg Robinson, was the main catalyst in the program's resurgent toughness in the early 2000's after the Longhorn brand was tagged with the soft label. As a curmudgeon, Tomey tests off the charts, so he should be able to give Mack Brown the straight shit without fear of repurcussion. That's good for a program that needs to ask tough questions before it seeks any sort of answers.

Regardless, it's different than the status quo, so that in itself has got to be good.

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Seriously?

by ransomstoddard on Oct 31, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes. Dead serious.

by Trips Right on Oct 31, 2010 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

unrelaated question: was there an airplane banner at the game this weekend?

by ut-06 on Oct 31, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

So, Mack turns to one of the guys that helped bring us back. A defensive mind, indeed.

This, to me, means there will be few changes on the offensive side of the ball.

I hope I am wrong.

by uthookem on Oct 31, 2010 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Withholding judgement pending the recommendations that are put forth.

by maninblack on Oct 31, 2010 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

He showed up the last time “major changes” were needed. That year we fired all the defensive staff with minimal changes on offense. Davis must have polaroids on Brown.

by New Kid on Oct 31, 2010 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Taylor Bible will be instructed to switch his brownie icing from “creamy” to “light.”

by whoopspat on Oct 31, 2010 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Why is it that when I hear his name, I picture some crooner?

by redfoot on Oct 31, 2010 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Why didn’t they hire scipotex? He has more credibility than any old goat past his prime. Or mayhbe Gerry Hamilton to tell them how to tell them how to avoid recruiting any more Whalies?

by Bill Bixby on Oct 31, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Recommendation number one: start recruiting outside the county.

by ransomstoddard on Oct 31, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack seems to prefer being a CEO instead of a football coach; I’m not sure if that’s a good thing.

by Varsity on Oct 31, 2010 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

A fucking consultant? Why? Everyone know what the damn problem is this makes me sick.

by floridianhorn on Oct 31, 2010 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

knows*

by floridianhorn on Oct 31, 2010 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

This could be interesting. Tomey was there in 2004 when the defense held Adrian Peterson and OU to 12 points, while GD shit the bed on offense, as we were shut out despite having Vince Young and Cedric Benson. I’d be shocked if Dick was a fan of our OC, and I know he wasn’t a fan of FatDog.

I think Mack is going to use Tomey as cover to fire his asshole buddies, since Mack doesn’t have the balls to evaluate them on his own.

by Blueshorn on Oct 31, 2010 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I think this is weak sauce. Don’t get me wrong, I’m optimistic that Mack and Co realize there are some deep rooted issues with the program. But I agree this seems to mean that Mack either doesn’t have the football smarts to identify the issues on his own, or doesn’t have the balls to make the hard decisions. Neither gives me the warm and fuzzies.

by Mr. Orange on Oct 31, 2010 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it possible that the views of the outside consultant will provide Mack the cover he needs to fire someone who he also has a personal relationship with?

Say Dick Tomey suggest we need to overhaul the offensive staff and Mack does so. Is that just wishful thinking?

by Newy25 on Oct 31, 2010 6:55 PM CDT reply actions  

No believing Mack will grow a pair is wishful thinking. What an embarrassment that we have a head coach that can’t fire his slob of a cronie at OC and whatever you want to call McWhorter, Kennedy, and Maddog. This infuriates me that he doesn’t have what it takes to address the situation himself. I mean shit is he in 7th grade and can’t breakup with his gf so he has to get his friend to pass her a note after school? Sack the fuck up Mack.

by floridianhorn on Oct 31, 2010 7:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Great reporting, Tripps. This is really good news for all the change agents. When CEO’s hire consultants, it portends bad news for everybody in the organization. Where’s the fat? Who’s ideas are not being heard? The final report provides necessary cover for the tough decisions (read: “But gee Greg, I tried to tell them you said we were only a couple years away from repeating but Dick and his team say differently. No hard feelings, right? I mean, we can still go grip it and rip it at our usual Monday 2:30 tee time.”)

This is setting up nicely for Deloss and Mack to claim the eval made them do it. Perfect storm is a brewin’.

by TXStampede on Oct 31, 2010 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

In addition to offering his opinions, Tomey’s presence is clearly going to be used to give Mack cover from firing ANYONE, much less his BFF or other albatrosses like Fat Dog and Brian Davis. Cleve Bryant’s job evaporated as soon as Gloria Allred’s name was mentioned, regardless of how innocent he might be, so there’s that.

I also feel pretty strongly that this move was not Mack’s idea exclusively. As much as I think WM is ready to take over next year, there are those with opinions that REALLY matter that perhaps don’t see it the same way. That and those people perhaps are mostly convinced WM is gone anyway.

This is going to get interesting.

by sizzlechest on Oct 31, 2010 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Very, very embarrassing to all. Grow a pair, Mack !

by torre on Oct 31, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you torre! I don’t find this interesting in the least. Pathetic is the right word.

by floridianhorn on Oct 31, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, it’s pathetic, but it’s also the only way Mack can do this. He’s soft. And most of the fanbase has enabled this weakness for 13 years. So, the only way we’re going to get change is to give him the cover he needs. Tomey is a no-nonsense guy who started the “Not Our Standard” policy. We’ve been giving it lip service, lately, but he won’t in his recommendations.

by Blueshorn on Oct 31, 2010 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Best possible news at this point. Mack listens to Tomey, who knows his shit. An outside perspective is what’s needed because this staff believes its own BS.

by 53 Veer Pass on Oct 31, 2010 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

How awesome would it be if Mack just came out this week with some newly found brass spitting fire and just took care of it? I know it isnt going to happen but it would be Christmas come early.

by floridianhorn on Oct 31, 2010 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

As Trips said, this is a good thing. And folks wishing ‘Mack would grow a pair of balls’ are missing the point. Tomey is the ‘pair of balls,’ so consider them grown for all intents and purposes. Some hard decisions will be made soon, and many heads are going to roll.

by uthookem on Oct 31, 2010 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and this is the first positive thing that has happened all season.

by uthookem on Oct 31, 2010 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

This just in…Greg Davis sucks

by utstudboy on Oct 31, 2010 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s amazing how quick action is taken after someone flies a public banner calling or change. There’s a 1 to 1 correlation here.

by SydneyCarton on Oct 31, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s a step in the right direction. It’s SOMETHING.

by GigoloJoe on Oct 31, 2010 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with the premise this is cover for house cleaning and it probably wasn’t all Mack’s idea. Davis, McWhorter, Kennedy and Mad Dog should all be gone at years end. As bad as this team is a new coaching staff can clean up a lot of these problems…There are a lot of schools who would love to have the talent level on this team.

by CD on Oct 31, 2010 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Another old coach but at least he’s a red ass. It’s sad that he has bring in consultants mid season to tell him what’s wrong.

by 2 in 13 years on Oct 31, 2010 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

We all know Applewhite is a fan favorite, but what is the consensus on his coaching ability as an OC…Is he considered and up and comer?…Does he deserve a shot at the OC slot? or do we go and get a proven OC? I never thought I would say this ….but I can’t see Davis surviving this year….Mack’s loyalty to Davis will ruin his legacy if he survives.

by CD on Oct 31, 2010 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I find if appalling that the University of Texas pays Mack $5 millions a year, has a head coach in waiting, and has any number of high paid assistant head coaches, but yet we have to bring in a fucking 105 year old coach as a “consultant” to fix the obvious problems.

by holdem on Oct 31, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Applewhite’s a folk hero but I’m not convinced he’s a great coach. At the very least he’s coaching the wrong position.

by 53 Veer Pass on Oct 31, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m with Trips here – this is a sign that Powers and Dodds get what’s going on.

Mack is a CEO – some CEOs hire hatchet men to make the cuts, other do it themselves. As long as the necessary cuts are made, the method isn’t that important.

Tomey is an experienced guy that Mack and the administration know and trust. He was chosen for a reason.

We should give it a chance before we blow it off to bullshit and smokescreens.

by Levander Williams on Oct 31, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

But is Dick Tomey reporting to Mack Brown? I hope not. He should be reporting to, at minimum, Deloss Dodds, and probably Bill Powers if it is to be a thorough and objective analysis.

If his boss is Mack Brown, the only thing that will happen is to sacrifice a scapegoat or two (McWhorter, Kennedy?) and GD and Mad Dog stay. Business as usual, but with a “see what we did? We saw a problem and corrected it” alibi. And another 4-5 game losing streak to OU.

by J.R.69 on Oct 31, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

At this point, some skepticism is natural.
However, it is a hopeful sign. The last time Tomey was involved, good things happened.

We will see. I particularly like that he is purportedly looking not at just one area, but at the whole shebang. Live up to your reputation, Tomey!

by LurkerintheDark on Oct 31, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

If Mack Brown is such a “CEO-type” coach, then why is it he has to have a “pair-of-balls Tomey” rammed down his throat? Reality shows him to be the coddler incapable of making the tough decisions.

We’ve already been down this road. G.Robinson and D.Tomey have already brought a sense of toughness to this program! Eighteen months later, Not-Our-Standard(NOS) was out of Mack’s mind/sight and swept away into obscurity. He doesn’t even have the ability to learn from past mistakes or proven improvements.

The minds in Belmont have come up with an idea that will shelter $5,000,000 Mack. I’ll take it. However, it will be a temporay improvement, as proven by past history.

by BevosBoss on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack’s fired assistants without help before. This looks like a top-down evaluation before big changes.

by Bob in Houston on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

holdem, if Mack is a proponent of this outside consultation because he wants to identify blind spots that threaten the trajectory of the program, he deserves praise. But right now, we don’t know the precise who and when behind this getting set in motion.

The fact that Tomey was seen on the sidelines at the Baylor game suggests that the impetus for the consultation predates the Baylor game and that it is not being kept a secret.

by triplehorn on Oct 31, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Tomey brought “bull in the ring” to Texas practices right? I vote for a coaches version. First call – GD versus Ball Hawk. That would end the problem right there.

by jinx on Oct 31, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Spokesman says Tomey was “just visiting” and hasn’t been hired
http://blogs.chron.com/longhorns/2010/10/ut_football_tomey_was_just_vis.html

by Damon Funyun on Oct 31, 2010 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Official word is that he was just visiting.

I’d love for this to be true, but surely we’ve learned by now not to get our hopes up.

by Paddington Ambush on Oct 31, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Best news I’ve heard all season.

Those of you who are bitching about Mack not having the balls to do this himself are missing the point. Perhaps you are familiar with the “good cop-bad cop” meme? We just hired us a bad cop.

This is the ONLY way this type of program re-evaluation is going to be done, and Mack/DeLoss/Bill/whomever-is-calling-the-shots is bringing in a ball-buster to do it. In hindsight, I can’t think of “Longhorn, Inc.” doing this any other way.

A-freakin’-men is all I have to say.

by Cincinnatus on Oct 31, 2010 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Here is a hidden recording of a recent interview conducted by Tomey.

http://www.imdb.com/rg/VIDEO_PLAY/LINK//video/hulu/vi4092264473/

by Davey O'Brien on Oct 31, 2010 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, James I am going to have to ask you to try to block on the bubble screen.

http://www.imdb.com/rg/mediaindex/unknown-thumbnail/media/rm909416448/tt0151804

by Davey O'Brien on Oct 31, 2010 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

“(Tomey) has three friends on the staff,” Bianco said. “He was here with his wife and was just visiting. Mack is at his best when things are tough. He doesn’t need help.”

Yeah, OK, right.

by sizzlechest on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Great news. I first suggested this maybe a year or two ago but better late than never. This is the start of a process that will provide cover for Mack to do what he knows needs to be done but has not been able to actually do. This could be the start of a great reinvigoration of Mack’s coaching staff.

This may be shocking to the players and coaches but they need to realize that big time sports is not about family (contrary to what Mack frequently says) but is supposed to be a meritocracy.

by Kafka on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

BC is famuzzz

by NY Horn on Oct 31, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Is there any chance that Tomey’s evaluation provides Belmont the cover it needs to ask for Mack’s resignation? If Mack balks at making the recommended changes, then Belmont can use that plus the Cleve Bryant settlement (I’m guessing 7 figures) as impetus for requesting Mack’s resignation. And I don’t think Muschamp would replace him. The next coach needs to be a proven program runner with either major conference or NFL experience.

by KB on Oct 31, 2010 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait, don’t we already pay a head coach a lot of money to evaluate the team and know what’s wrong and how to fix it?

by Earl Campbell's Right Thigh on Oct 31, 2010 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

This story bears watching. I always thought Tomey and Robinson were unsung heroes of the ’05 MNC for the changes they brought to the program the previous year.

I agree with those supporting the move if the report pans out as accurate. It is called due diligence and is an essential basis for any major move within an organization like this one. Tomey has the experience with the program under Mack as well as the overall gravitas to be a fine choice for such consultation.

by hopefulhorn on Oct 31, 2010 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Mack is tied up at present evaluating whether we have the right personnel fielding punts. It is a much more tricky question than it appears at first blush.

by Greg Davis Blows on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Good news I think. I specifically remember RoboTomey taking defensive conditioning from FatDog. And I personally attribute their work with our NC defense in 05. Never was too impressed with Chizik.

As in the corporate world, though, hiring of consultants is mostly a cop-out. It does not reflect well on Mack at all that he feels this is necessary. Of course, maybe it’s not Mack.

by 2xHorn on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

The Houston Chronicle blog linked above refers to Barking Carnival and quotes Bianco as refuting the BC story (in this thread). So, what say you Trips? Is Bianco full of shit?

by Blueshorn on Oct 31, 2010 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Was it the Okie St. game where the camera caught Tomey giving Mack some tough love?

by Dave on Oct 31, 2010 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The person I talked to would be connected enough to know if something is going on and he’s never steered me wrong. For good measure, he also claims there was a lockerroom incident between a couple of staff members that I’m not at liberty to mention yet.

As for Bianco, I’m not shocked by his comments about what was said on our blog, irrespective of how badass our blog is.

by Trips Right on Oct 31, 2010 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

It will be interesting to see how it plays out with Tomey. Regardless of whether he is hired as an outside consultant or not, I expect the potential changes on the coaching staff to be minimal. Hey, although we can blame coaching, the players have to execute, and there has been a lot left to be desired on that front. With all that said, I expect a few sacrificial lambs to be offered after the A&M game at the earliest: the wide receivers coach and the offensive line coach are who I think get the axe, for reasons that go beyond the “not our standard” play this season. I don’t expect the OC to get canned, nor anyone on the defensive side. For all the folks calling for massive changes, it’s not going to happen, so deal with it. Instead, get behind the team to use what’s left of 2010 as a learning and character-building experience, and look forward to 2011, when we restore order to the Big XII-2.

by Voice of Reason on Oct 31, 2010 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I knew Bianco was full of shit when he said Mack is at his best when things are tough. So I’m not buying anything he says on the subject.

by Blueshorn on Oct 31, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

“For good measure, he also claims there was a lockerroom incident between a couple of staff members that I’m not at liberty to mention yet.”

I’ll bet the pizza Greg Davis ordered at half time came with an odd number of mozzarella sticks, and at that point, Jeff Madden figured he had taken enough shit.

by uthookem on Oct 31, 2010 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Says a whole lot about your coach and his decision making capabilities if you have to hire a consultant to figure out the problems or fire someone. Does the word WEAK come to mind?

by well now on Oct 31, 2010 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

If if he was there to evaluate, but everyone involved is denying that he was there to evaluate, how would Mack be able to use his evaluation as justification for making staff changes? At least, publicly.

And now I really want to know about this locker room incident. Thanks, Trips. Such a tease.

by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Oct 31, 2010 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Getting Tomey is a step in the right direction but its not enough.

The entire offensive staff outside of Major should be given pinks slips after the season. Anything less than that is a massive disappointment.

Its also time to dump Maddog. I want Mack’s chronies gone. No Cleve, No Maddog, No Davis, No Kennedy and No McWhorter.

Texas football is a dumpster fire right now.

by Texas on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Sasha,

Do you really think regardless of the genesis Mack would come out in a press conference and say someone is getting fired?

I am intrigued by the idea that this might not all be Mack’s idea.

by Davey O'Brien on Oct 31, 2010 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

The person I talked to would be connected enough to know if something is going on and he’s never steered me wrong. For good measure, he also claims there was a lockerroom incident between a couple of staff members that I’m not at liberty to mention yet.

Whoa. Look forward to that bomb dropping.

by texoz on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Fuck it, we’ll stand by the boys.

by sizzlechest on Oct 31, 2010 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Until I hear otherwise, I’m envisioning muschamp catching gd with a macho man-esque flying elbow.

by Eljinca on Oct 31, 2010 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Please, PLEASE let the locker room throwdown be between Davis and Muschamp. I said over a year ago I’d pay a benjamin to see Muschamp throat-punch Davis. It will be a glorious day when that happens.

by Orange Marrow on Oct 31, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

… he also claims there was a lockerroom incident between a couple of staff members that I’m not at liberty to mention yet.

Not to be pedantic, but you mentioned it already. When might you be at liberty to elaborate? Can’t wait to find out about this.

by Paddington Ambush on Oct 31, 2010 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Our 5-million-dollar man needs a fucking consultant to see this shit? Jesus F’ing Christ.

by NVHorn on Oct 31, 2010 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I like the move. Asking for help is very difficult for confident people, but it is what successful people do. I hope it means Mack gets objective, independent analysis. Tomey is probably the best he could do at this time.

A locker room incident, sounds like someone was trying to hold a coach accountable. I don’t necessarily think this is bad either. People need to be challenged on their ideas and effectiveness, it breeds innovation and action.

by ultralight on Oct 31, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

holdem said:

October 31st, 2010 at 6:21 pm

I find if appalling that the University of Texas pays Mack $5 millions a year, has a head coach in waiting, and has any number of high paid assistant head coaches, but yet we have to bring in a fucking 105 year old coach as a "consultant" to fix the obvious problems.

Holdem for post of the day.

by Joetx on Oct 31, 2010 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

At this point, i would be fine with an entire house cleaning. I’m talking about the whole bunch of sorry asses from GD to Mack to Muschamp. Let him go to Georgia for all I care. Clean house and start anew. Back a Brink’s truck up to someone like Peterson or Patterson and just ask them to tell us to stop when it’s enough. those guys love Boise and TCU respectively, but every man has his price.

I’m not even saying those are the right guys. What I’m looking for is a clean start with a coach that has built and run a solid program. Those guys both fit that bill. Plus it would be allow me to give a little FU to my TCU friends as we take their coach from them. Those guys are beating on my relentlessly these days.

by Mr. Orange on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Why would you guys rather have Peterson or Patterson than Jim Harbaugh?

by tim on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I sure hope this means that Mack is Lumbergh (he’s ok as long as he doesn’t object to any of the “consultant’s” suggestions)-“I’m not sure about that, Will’s defense has been acting a little flaky lately” “So what exactly would say you do around here all day Mack?”

Will is Peter-“Not now Mack, I have a meeting with the Dicks.”

and Greg is Milton -“Apparently Greg stopped doing any work as an Offensive Coordinator back in 2005, but through a glitch in the communications system he kept being allowed to call the plays, so we fixed the glitch.” “So he’s on the fire pile?” “Uh, no, we fixed the glitch, it’ll work itself out naturally. We find it better if we avoid confrontations whenever possible.”

by tdwalsh on Nov 1, 2010 12:08 AM CDT reply actions  

When possible, please share the coaches incident.

by fear_the_cow on Nov 1, 2010 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe you should have hired Gloria Allred and some female consultants from tech. no doubt it would lead to the same result and would be a better send off for GD etc.

At thsi time of year they, I bet they would have thrown in some slutty haloween outfits too.

by EnglishAg on Nov 1, 2010 12:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Cannot wait to hear about the coaching confrontation. Lots of things going on behind the scenes. It only confirms what many of us already know.

The 2010 season has been one huge dumpster fire and its time for some serious changes on the offensive side of the ball.

by Texas on Nov 1, 2010 12:31 AM CDT reply actions  

from what I hear this isn’t happening

by Jon on Nov 1, 2010 12:37 AM CDT reply actions  

We’ll make you a sweet deal on Tuberville. He’s the real deal, just ask him.

by TechFirst on Nov 1, 2010 12:47 AM CDT reply actions  

I compliment Barking Carnival on limiting the people who can start threads or blogs. At least threads start off interesting and usually smart.

So, last week, Mack Brown is a blind fool who will never make the big changes necessary to save the program. Not a foolish position to take.

This week, Mack allegedly hires a hard ass to help him make the big changes necessary to save the program and he is still a fool?

Can one hold those two positions at the same time and not be a fool oneself?

I’m in the camp of those who love Brown but wonder if the end is coming. I was at the Baylor game (congrats Bears) and walked out thinking maybe the time has come for the most sweeping of changes. Maybe.

Here comes a news item that suggests Mack is thinking about the same thing. If he needs and finds able help to keep up the ten win tradition and regular contention for the MNC, then what is there to criticize? Is that not the goal?

For some, it seems that the decision about Mack has been made and no move is adequate to rectify their opinions. Does that not make these persons as stubborn in their opinions as they claim Brown is in his devotion to Davis?

If Brown takes the steps to make the changes that keep Texas elite, how do you fault him?

I hope he makes the tough moves. I’ll not finally judge him until I see what he does.

by RomaVicta on Nov 1, 2010 12:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Tomey: Mack, I can tell you exactly what the root of the problem is.

Mack: Thanks, Dick. I respect your judgment and wisdom, and I’m willing to act upon your advice. No matter how personally painful.

Tomey: The problem is you, Mack.

Mack: Thanks for coming by Dick. I think United still has direct flights to San Jose. Twice daily, Your choice.

by Black Scholes on Nov 1, 2010 2:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Got that “All the President’s Men” reference, sizzle.

I had one too about Bianco’s response: it was a non-denial denial.

by hopefulhorn on Nov 1, 2010 6:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Believe it or not, Wikipedia is already showing Tomey as a current consultant at Texas. And hey, they’re accurate mostly some of the time.

As for the locker room dust up, my money’s on Applewhite and GD gettin’ physical. Whatever the case, can’t wait for the other shoe to drop there.

Things just get curiouser and curiouser, and I suppose if we can’t have entertaining football, this tasty little drama will do until it gets back.

by TKO on Nov 1, 2010 7:09 AM CDT reply actions  

FWIW, Chip Brown just said on local radio that this report is “not true.”

by Bobby Jack Akina on Nov 1, 2010 7:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I’m getting a Baghdad Bob feeling about all of this.

We have credible sources spouting opposing “truths.” Usually, when one side says there’s no disagreement, and the other side says, “yes, there is” I go with, “yes, there is.”

by texoz on Nov 1, 2010 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

If this is true, give Mack credit. I was once told that the first step is realizing you have a problem.

Just 11 more fucking steps to go!!!

by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 1, 2010 8:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like they’re following the Houston Texans playbook. What the hell, bring in Dan Reeves too. Then hire a new head coach who tells you what you want to hear rather than what you need.

If true, this disappoints me that we would require an outside consultant to show some leadership on this staff. I’m reaching for a silver lining here, though and hoping that at least Tomey can play the heavy and start thtowing some wood and gas on this smoldering heap of crap.

by GM Platter on Nov 1, 2010 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

“Things just get curiouser and curiouser, and I suppose if we can’t have entertaining football, this tasty little drama will do until it gets back.”

LOL

by GigoloJoe on Nov 1, 2010 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Re: wikipedia. Anyone can post there. If it’s still there by tomorrow, then maybe there’s something to it, but I could post “HenryJames is a cross-dressing hermaphrodite” on Tomey’s page and it would be there for a few hours at least.

Someone would notice the false data and eventually remove it.

It is false, right?

by texoz on Nov 1, 2010 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

All coaches and football staff members are state employee, right? His employment has to be public so this isn’t something you can really hide…at least for long.

I’m guessing this isn’t true, but we’ll find out soon enough.

by Hornmatic on Nov 1, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

“Re: wikipedia. Anyone can post there. If it’s still there by tomorrow, then maybe there’s something to it, but I could post "HenryJames is a cross-dressing hermaphrodite" on Tomey’s page and it would be there for a few hours at least.”

No kidding; that’s why I said it’s true mostly some of the time. We all know it’s not a particularly reliable resource.

Oh, and is Henry James REALLY a cross-dressing hermaphrodite?

by TKO on Nov 1, 2010 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

If he’s a hermaphrodite, how do we know if he’s cross dressing? The ‘cross dressing’ was the sole inaccuracy, texoz.

by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 1, 2010 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Trips either needs a new source or should confront the fact that every legitimate news source has denied this story.

by accountablity on Nov 1, 2010 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Why would you guys rather have Peterson or Patterson than Jim Harbaugh?

Harbaugh is my guy too. He’d rip shit up here.

by bigdukesix on Nov 1, 2010 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Chip Brown and the University of Texas are reliable?

by Davey O'Brien on Nov 1, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I’m just all kinds of impressed that BC is driving the narrative now, and UT is having to respond and deflect.

What’s the converse of “jumping the shark?”

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

every legitimate news source has denied this story

Chip Brown and the Houston Chronicle constitute “every legitimate news source” now.

Perhaps you forgot that Chip Brown was UT’s mouthpiece during the conference realignment process, and the Chron is an afterthought.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Will: So, Greg, what’s happening? Aahh, now, are you going to go ahead and have that KSU game plan for us this afternoon?
Greg: No.
Will: Ah. Yeah. So I guess we should probably go ahead and have a little talk. Hmm?
Greg: Not right now, Will, I’m kinda busy. In fact, look, I’m gonna have to ask you to just go ahead and come back another time. I got a meeting with the Dicks in a couple of minutes.
Will: I wasn’t aware of a meeting with them.
Greg: Yeah, they called me at home.

by Magnificent Bastard on Nov 1, 2010 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm, let’s hope the Dicks aren’t nearly as impressed with Greg as the Bobs were with Peter.

by bigdukesix on Nov 1, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

The punt returner thing is a bitch. Why can’t they find a Brock Fitzhenry or someone else they felt deserved a D1 scholarship with an aptitude for the return game, and then get them on one corner of the field all damn day long fielding punts. Hell they are never going to see the field any other way with the extra 15 or so WR’s they recruited that will never play meaningful snaps.

Didn’t Rob Moerschell return punts?

And on that note, why do they stock up with extra wide outs every year and not stock up on the OL EVEN MORE? I know there are 3 – 4 WR’s on the field in this non-defense phase of the game (can’t bring myself to call it an offense), but last I checked there are 5 OL’s. Considering our track record the last 5 years with OL attrition, we should be bringing in extra. I would rather have those guys standing around doing nothing with a chance for maturation and development than a bunch of 160 lb guys. Some could even be plugged in to the DL in emergency although that usually happens the other way around.

by derryl on Nov 1, 2010 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

If this is a cleaning house scenario. (Highly doubtful IMO. ) Other than the fact that Major is a former well liked Texas player, what in his coaching performance leads one to believe he should still have a job?

The running backs are one of the absolute worst performing units on this team. Granted with all the missed blocks it’s really hard to tell who sucks harder the oline or the RB’s. I don’t see anything from the running backs that would make me think damn now there is a well coached unit. If Major is the guy allocating playing time to the RB’s I think he’s doing a damn shitty job.

by roach on Nov 1, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I don’t know why everyone is so worried about our offense . . .. Don’t we have that Gus Malzahn guy down on our triple-A farm team, Auburn? . . . I hear he’s pretty good.

by Cirque du Salado on Nov 1, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

BTW aptitude for the punt return game is the following:
1. Count the players on the field. (I’m being extra smart).
2. Catch or fair catch the ball.
3. Return left, right or center.
4. Plant heels on the 10 yard line and NEVER field the ball inside the 10 yard line.
5. Occasionally give great fake of fielding punt to throw off coverage and prevent downing inside 10 yard line.

I know it’s tough but……..maybe someone out of that 120 player squad could handle it.

by derryl on Nov 1, 2010 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

“Why would you guys rather have Peterson or Patterson than Jim Harbaugh?”

I wouldn’t. Harbaugh is the number one non-spread coach in the country not at a top university, IMO. His teams seem to play harder than everybody, as well. And I like their multiform offense and physical OL and RBs.

by Blake B on Nov 1, 2010 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Screw finding someone who can return punts. I would settle for someone who can catch the damn things. The comment above might have been made half in jest, but having no one back to catch punts would have caused less damage to this team this year than the Katzenjammer kids acts provide by Williams and Brown.

It reminds me a bit of the NC State game in 1999 when Texas got three punts blocked because the staff refused to make changes. Hmmm……2/3 of the staff has changed since then so what is the one primary constant?

by Davey O'Brien on Nov 1, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

As for the punt returns it is unbelievable that we can’t find one player out of over 100 to fair catch a punt.

Why the hell our returner is running backwards trying to catch a punt over the shoulder is even more infuriating, do we not scout the other teams punter? Do we not have some idea of his range? If we really need a return (we did) then put two guys back to catch the ball. At least then when the first guy muffs it we have a backup to jump on the ball.

by roach on Nov 1, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

It is not just the punt return I am addressing, it is the lack of the coaching staff utilizing what is there that is the mindset that kills me. I know there is a punt returner there somewhere if they were coached up and had the reps.

by derryl on Nov 1, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I remember thinking Mack left Chris Simms in one or two series too long before an injury forced him to make a change in the Big 12 title game in 2001. . . . But leaving Curtis Brown in to field punts is just punishing a guy who obviously in over his head. After the final muff, TV showed Mack talking in Curtis’ ear on the sideline . . . I hope he was saying, “I’ll split the $100 with you that I just won betting Mad Dog you wouldn’t hang on to the ball there.”

by Cirque du Salado on Nov 1, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

The running backs are one of the absolute worst performing units on this team.

RB coaches really only coach pass protection and route-running from the running backs. Our running backs are relatively untalented and running in a shitty scheme, neither of which any running back coach in the country could do anything about.

by bigdukesix on Nov 1, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

The only physical injury of consequence that I recall from the 2001 Big XII title game was Ced hurting his neck running into Mike Williams trying to make a tackle on one of Chris’ interceptions.

by Davey O'Brien on Nov 1, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Does MA do anything? What about recruiting RBs?

If he has no say, no pull and no responsibilities, he clearly has no accoutability. How convenient.

by Whistling on Nov 1, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Substantial change for Mack will be difficult, if not impossible. If he gets rid of GD or some of the other loyalist old regime hound dogs he will basically be admitting the foundation for his entire tenure is no longer dependable.

by Mocking Bird on Nov 1, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe I’m just naive, but my interpretation of this: 1) Mack doesn’t know what’s really wrong with his team. If he did, he would have fixed it by now. Sad, but true. 2) Mack feels he’s too close to the situation to make a good evaluation. 3) Prudent man that he is, Dodds thinks its better to get a 2nd opinion before undergoing major surgery, especially since surgery will be best performed when the season is over. 4) Dodds knows that somebody has to go down, and if that somebody has the pockets to legally make a fresh start troublesome, then having the decision backed up by a supposedly unbiased 3rd party is money and time well-spent.

by Dumeril Seven on Nov 1, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh and one other thing: 5) @#$$ this decision up, and bigger heads will roll.

by Dumeril Seven on Nov 1, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Do you think a consultant might catch this stat?

  1. ranked team in kick off returns

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/ncaa-m-footbl-fbs-team-kickoff-returns.html

Here’s another stat. We have TWO more TD passes (6) than Army (4).

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/ncaa-m-footbl-fbs-team-passing-offense.html

Army has thrown the ball 80 times, UT 295 times.

Our TD per attempt ratio is 1 to 49. Amazingly, only two other teams in college football have a worse TD per attempt average. One is Akron at 1 to 50. The other is BYU 1 to 67.

Gilbert hasn’t been a great QB, but he’s not horrible either. This stat screams bad hands, bad routes, and no separation. Receiver’s coach, holla!!

by texoz on Nov 1, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Dumeril – not sure about your #4, I’m fairly certain the coaches’ contracts are all pay-or-play — so long as you pay the amount due (either for the full term or whatever amount was negotiated into the deal), the AD (and/or Mack, if he has hire/fire control built into his deal) can fire anyone any time he wants.

On the other hand, I agree with your #3, with perhaps a dose of #2. I suspect Mack is too smart a man for #1 to be meaningfully true.

by BEHorn on Nov 1, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Pretty sure hiring an extra “consultant” would count as another coach, which would be an NCAA violation. But since you’re Texas and I do your bidding, I’ll probably just let it slide.

by Dan Beebe on Nov 1, 2010 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

" If he gets rid of GD or some of the other loyalist old regime hound dogs he will basically be admitting the foundation for his entire tenure is no longer dependable."

Mocking – disagree completely. The foundation of Mack’s tenure, from a personnel perspective, is Mack himself. He’s made changes on the defensive side, including a tough but completely correct call to demote Akina. Nevertheless, it’s hard to pull the trigger on an old friend. Do you think Tony Soprano liked whacking Big Pussy Bompansiero? Hell, no. But he did it because he had to, and the handy thing about consultants is they can provide a clear “had to” rationale for making decisions within a specific time frame that you might otherwise rationalize yourself out of.

by BEHorn on Nov 1, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and is Henry James REALLY a cross-dressing hermaphrodite?

Well, sir, if he really is a hermaphrodite, the only way he couldn’t be “cross-dressing” would be to go naked, innit?

Does MA do anything? What about recruiting RBs?

Apparently he wanted Christine Michael instead of the Whale, but was slapped upside the head with a limp dick.

BTW, speaking of running backs: I noticed an Alonzo Whaley listed as a 6-1 235# LB on Nebraska, from Madisonville, our Whaley’s spawning grounds… I’m still thinking Lamarr Houston…

by Tex Long on Nov 1, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

BEHorn – Akina didn’t really get demoted as much as he lost a very brief promotion. The biggest fall guy was a complete stranger, McDuff.

He’s been dragging around some of his crew since Nawth Carolina. These guys are lifelong contributors through most of Mack’s head coaching career. This is like getting a divorce with your high school sweetheart right before you retire.

by Mocking Bird on Nov 1, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I suspect Mack is too smart a man for #1 to be meaningfully true.

BE – I have to disagree here. I’ve been part of an organization where the CEO, who was a very smart man, was incapable of seeing past his own biases and ultimately ran the ship aground. He’d have continued to do more of the same if the board would have allowed – eventually, he was replaced before the enterprise was completely destroyed. Mack has many of those same characteristics – smart man, but too close to the situation to act rationally.

UT has seen the ship run aground – they’re not about to let it happen again. UT Football is the engine that makes Athletics go, and it has an indirect but legitimate impact on UT proper as well. Powers & Dodds are not about to let this go on without getting involved.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Chip Brown reporting that he just talked to Dick Tomey and he stated that he has not been hired by UT and he his headed out of town already. I really hope this is false.

by jttexas05 on Nov 1, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Mack Brown just denied the story in the Presser and acted like he hadn’t heard about it before. “No Dick’s not consulting. I’M consulting”

by Canuck Horn on Nov 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Chip Brown: You’re headed out of town already??

Dick Tomey: Yep. You gotta get in, get it, and get out without getting any on you.

by J.R.69 on Nov 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Mack said this story is false during his press conference. Dick is not on staff and has not been hired as a consultant.

by FireGregDavis on Nov 1, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Looks like a lot of egg on the face of BC and their know it all posters. Ooops.

by accountablity on Nov 1, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Mack Brown just denied the story in the Presser and acted like he hadn’t heard about it before. "No Dick’s not consulting. I’M consulting"

Yeah, like Bianco didn’t clear his response to the Chronicle with him. LMAO

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Dick is not on staff and has not been hired as a consultant.

…could mean any number of things:

- Dick Tomey is not currently under contract or in the employ of UT
- Dick Tomey has not yet begun working as a consultant or in any other capacity, but could at some future date
- Dick Tomey has visited and has provided whatever insight he’s going to provide.

Remember who we’re talking about – UT controls its message and information flow very tightly.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Looks like a lot of egg on the face of BC and their know it all posters. Ooops.

I noticed Gerry Hamilton confirmed the same story on Hookem247.

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Can someone ping “accountability’s” IP and see if it’s coming from Bianco’s office?

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I don’t know how to fix my team and Mack is softer and more clueless than me.
BTW, Cleve’s done a wonderful job with the Rangers this year..

by Wade Phillips on Nov 1, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Ugh – some hope is dying right now. Play this string out as best you can, but I can’t envision having any level of excitement whatsoever for the 2011 Longhorns if GD returns.

by nobis60 on Nov 1, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions  

The entire offense is "not Our Standard’ . Greg Davis is the one responsible for the offense. Check that out Mack. It is bringing down Your entire empire quickly.

by DougNTexas on Nov 1, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Davey O’Brien – Simms got pulled after hitting his finger on one of the Buffs’ helmets.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2005/11/28/153820/61

But the big injury was Benson, who collided with Mike Williams defending an interception return. It kept Benson out of the bowl that year.

by cirque du salado on Nov 1, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Documenting for the record, in case posts start getting disappeared, as they often do at 24/7:

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I am looking for confirmation, I was told this afternoon that Mack brought in a consultant (Tomey) and that he was on the sidelines yesterday. I was also told that Tomey will be reviewing schedule, game plans, conditioning, film, basically everything.

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by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Dick’s been in Austin going on a couple of weeks now. He didn’t just visit to watch us play Baylor. He may not be an official employee yet but he was asked for input on the program.

As far as the incident goes, let’s just say there was a heated exchange between two coaches after the game. This was the culmination of growing animosity between the old guard and new guard that was inflamed with comments from the head man to the press like “I can’t trust my assistant coaches to get the players ready to play”, etc. and so forth.

As it stands now, there will be changes to the staff after the season and they may not be what everyone wants.

by Trips Right on Nov 1, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Gerry’s source must be as bad as Trips. Both owe an explanation for thier “confirmation”.

by accountablity on Nov 1, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Trips. I appreciate your honesty, but that is not what you originally reported and seems be far from the complete study of the entire program. Never the less, I enjoy your site.

by accountablity on Nov 1, 2010 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

As it stands now, there will be changes to the staff after the season and they may not be what everyone wants.

Translation – Davis stays, Muschamp goes, or some combination. Offensive position coaches are cut as window dressing.

This is not the root cause that you are looking for.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Trips, if that’s so, we are wll past the beginning of the end.

by TaylorTRoom on Nov 1, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

trips- regarding your most recent cryptic message about staff changes might not be what everyone wants. If Davis stays and Muschamp goes, that might be Mack’s “let them eat cake” moment that has folks storming the Bastille.

I’ve stayed on through a lot of crap, but this honestly might make me stop caring.

by stuckinmn on Nov 1, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

No worries accountability. If this turns out to be false then so be it. I’m just telling you what my guy told me and he’s never steered me wrong before.

But at this point, I’m more convinced than ever that Greg Davis stays until Mack Brown retires and that almost certainly will cost us Muschamp. Remember Will’s career/name is completely invested in the Texas program and he’s just now realizing what a Jimbo Fisher realized when Bowden’s career started going tits up.

by Trips Right on Nov 1, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it is a bit unfair to compare BC to Chip Brown. Brown a reporter, I expect him to come out with documented facts supporting his stories. At BC, I am happy to hear about rumors, etc… that may not end up being total facts.

by Holdem on Nov 1, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

If Muschamp leaves and Davis stays, I’m done as a donor and season ticket holder. But I’m not a fatcat like Jamail, so I’m sure I won’t be missed. Unless there are thousands like me…

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

“As it stands now, there will be changes to the staff after the season and they may not be what everyone wants.”

Well, fuck. So it sounds like Davis will be staying…

by uthookem on Nov 1, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn.

by whoopspat on Nov 1, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Unless “not be what everyone wants” means “not be what Mack, Greg and Mrs. Davis want”. Everyone minus 3 people is by defintion “not everyone”, right?

Expressed in Huck terms:
Everyone minus 3 people = not everyone

I’m grasping at straws here, I know.

by stuckinmn on Nov 1, 2010 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Blues – as much as you and I are blown off as the ‘chattering rabble’, Jamail still can’t fill more than one seat with his big ass.

Maybe he can pay for some of those virtual fan-tarps that they use in European soccer stadiums to make the place look full. They might need them next year if Davis stays & Boom leaves. That would be a collossal mistake on UT’s part.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Levander,

Based on the commentary around my section, there will be a lot of empty seats if GD is still with us next year. The views on Boom are mixed, based on how intelligent the fan is. Sadly, we have some pretty dumb fans. And a very dumb head coach.

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Picking Oden over Durant comes to mind.

by Dude on Nov 1, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m guessing Kennedy and McWhorter are cookies after this year. In keeping with the Major Applewhite coaching RB’s logic, we’ll assign Rod Babers to coaching the WR’s and Tony Brackens will come in and coach the OL.

Last year can’t get here soon enough.

by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 1, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

As for this Tomey stuff. I really doubt the guy just came to visit his friends and then watched the game from the sidelines. There’s more to it than that.

GM Platter, Reeves wasting his time with the Texans was the first thing that came to mind. McNair being known for being a good guy didn’t want to make the hard yet extremely obvious call. Casserly = Davis, to any with a brain.

by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 1, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Is that Mack’s last year you are refering to Magnus. I’m ready for the result of our last loss to Baylor.

by jinx on Nov 1, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

mbv, average Texas fan does not have a brain.

by uthookem on Nov 1, 2010 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

GD staying and Muschamp leaving sounds like what hell must be like. There will also be open war between Mack and the fans.

by NY Horn on Nov 1, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Any solution that doesn’t include the replacement of Greg Davis and a majority of the offensive staff is unthinkable and unacceptable at this point. If Mack can’t or won’t acknowledge that and act on it following a season that includes consecutive home losses to UCLA, Iowa State and Baylor, then that tells me the end of the Mack Brown era is going to be increasingly contentious and ugly. That would be an utter tragedy but it’s his choice and his legacy.

by HelmetBoy on Nov 1, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ll just get this out of the way now.

For the 1000th time: “Fuck you, Greg!”

For the first time: “Fuck you, Mack!”

For shits/giggles: “Fuck you, DeLoss!”

If this all holds up, I’m done until we have a new head coach.

by sizzlechest on Nov 1, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess following these boards I am under the insulated impression that everybody sees the obvious that GD is the major problem, but there seem to be a lot of people that actually think the defense is the problem and are willing to hang on to things. Bah!

by Canuck Horn on Nov 1, 2010 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I personally would not be happy with anything less than the retirement/removal of everyone from Dodds on down, so “there will be changes to the staff after the season and they may not be what everyone wants” was a given for me.

I’m ready to move on. I’m telling the GF that getting new breasts or coloring her hair doesn’t change the fact that she’s the same woman I’m just plain tired of.

(Implied blank after “of.”)

by I Must Be Old on Nov 1, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Jinx, no I was referring to last year, when we were good (though not that good).

uthookem, true which is why this is the only board I read.

sizzlechest, I’m with you. It pains me to wish that Mack was gone, but it’s for the best. Let me be the first to say it….

Tomey for HC!!!!

by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 1, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Prior to this year, the most boneheaded stuff I’ve seen out of Mack was playing the injured and obviously less than full speed McCoy against agy. especially with a chance to back into the XII CCG. I think if I had been Snead, I would have refused to go into the game for the last snap… although how sweet it would have been to hit the Hail Mary on that one! I never blamed Jevan for leaving, just as I couldn’t say anything about Sherrod’s decision this year.

by Tex Long on Nov 1, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

“I’m ready to move on. I’m telling the GF that getting new breasts or coloring her hair doesn’t change the fact that she’s the same woman I’m just plain tired of.”

Just do what I have my girl’s do once I tire of them. Have her get retightened.

by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 1, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Black Scholes is right and he usually is. The problem is Mack Brown right now.

Losing Muschamp is the worst thing that can happen for Texas football and guys like Kennedy, McWhorter and Davis are all safe.

I am sick and tired of Mack Brown

by Texas on Nov 1, 2010 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

And while Mack parses words about Tomey, Bobby Burton has confirmed that Dick Tomey was “around the football program the last week” but the “highest source” assures him Tomey has not been hired as a consultant.

I guess Tomey was just wasting the staff’s time while they were busy trying to fix all the shit that’s wrong with the program so they wouldn’t lose to another conference doormat on their home field. They probably were too soft to say not to him being around. Yeah, that’s it…

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

not=no

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

sizzlechest,

In addition to offering his opinions, Tomey’s presence is clearly going to be used to give Mack cover from firing ANYONE, much less his BFF or other albatrosses like Fat Dog and Brian Davis.

Exactly. Mack brought in Tomey so that he could shift attention to some bullshit problem-solving effort, and avoid doing what actually needs to be done to solve our problems (i.e. fire them).

by BrickHorn on Nov 1, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I should say “If Mack brings it Tomey, it will be to shift attention…”

by BrickHorn on Nov 1, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack Brown should take his tens of millions of dollars and leave Austin.

by No Holds Barred on Nov 1, 2010 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

The problem is Mack Brown and it appears it always him. Sure he brings a lot to the table, but what limits us is also him. His loyalty clearly is no longer, if it ever was, to the program over himself and GD. His press conferece today was disgraceful in how he tried to spread and excuse the blame.

by fear_the_cow on Nov 1, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Watched MB’s presser…..completely denied any UT involvement with Tomey. Said he was
there because he had connections with both UT and Baylor coaches. MB will look pretty bad
and lose more credibility if this story is correct. If report about who stays and goes happens
the way some of the posters are speculating Mack will lose alot more than credibility.

by stilltrying on Nov 1, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I never blamed Jevan for leaving, just as I couldn’t say anything about Sherrod’s decision this year.

I’m starting to wonder how much of this Sherrod saw coming.

by Brian Combs on Nov 1, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack isnt going anywhere so get over it.

I say Muschamp hauls ass and a few guys on the offensive coaching staff get canned but Davis stays. We did about the same thing back when Tomey had his first tour around here and it worked out pretty well. How much of that is due to Superman playing QB is anybodys guess.

The Tomey story sounds like almost a done deal that was shot down after it was reported.

by bullzak on Nov 1, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack Brown Arrogance:
    Not offering Cam Newton, Robert Griffin, Taylor Martinez or too many others to name
    Sitting in his thrown room in Belmont Hall while requiring recruits to come on bended knee swearing to accept if offered
   Not sending offer letters before signing day
   Not recruiting out-of-state or JUCOs

Mack Brown Entitlement
    Only offering those that are sure to commit while expecting all the top talent in Texas to drop in his lap every February without any personal recruiting effort

Texas Fans Arrogance
    Believing in the face of contrary evidence that Texas talent is ALWAYS superior to the likes of ISU, BU and a$m

Texas Fans Entitlement
    Expecting 10 or more wins every season in the face of over-whelming historical evidence that football success on the field is cyclical

Recruiting Guru’s Arrogance
    Claiming that they sell a quality product

Texas Fans Naivety
    Believing that the team composit recruiting rankings are infallible

Greg Davis Unforgivable
    Flipping Off of Fans and Coaching Staff with
The first 3 plays from scrimmage against ou
The doomed dives by DJ Monroe against Baylor

Texas Fans Communicate
    Banner behind plane
    Booing the first pass to the water coolers against Baylor
    Booing the play calling on the last trip into the red zone against Baylor

by Whistling on Nov 1, 2010 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Like I said before….IF Tomey is consultant and reports to MB = no significant changes.

IF, OTOH, he reports to Deloss Dodds or, preferably, Bill Powers……well, now we’re talking.

by J.R.69 on Nov 1, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

“The Tomey story sounds like almost a done deal that was shot down after it was reported.”

I had that thought too.

by GigoloJoe on Nov 1, 2010 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Can we get “Barking Carnival – a popular blog” on the tote bags?

by With silver lining on Nov 1, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Practically speaking, if Tomey is consulting, it does Mack absolutely no good to confirm it.

Tomey would be under scrutiny and Mack would spend the next five weeks talking about him.

I always thought that Tomey was Mack’s buddy… that’s how he got to Austin. But if his bosses, um, suggested that he find a buddy to evaluate the program, something might still happen.

by Bob in Houston on Nov 1, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Any combination of future changes that involves No Muschamp and Yes Davis will result in a decrease of dollars going from me to the University.

by BEHorn on Nov 1, 2010 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Any combination of future changes that involves No Muschamp and Yes Davis will result in a decrease of dollars going from me to the University.

BE – I think you’re in good company on that point, and I think Dodds & Powers understand that. This is why I think there is more to Dick Tomey’s involvement than UT wants to reveal at this time.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ve been thinking all along that all of this talk about the coordinators being responsible was to ultimately drag Muschamp into Mack’s game of petty politics re his bestest friend.

If you have other options, you don’t hang around for that shit.

The Major has pretty clearly aligned himself with Muschamp; Mack may well view him as no longer a team player. I think The Major may already have a new job in hand.

McWhorter retires. Mack makes an old boy, comfort-level hire. Lipstick on a pig.

Kennedy? Stayed too long for the prestige, paycheck and lack of accountability. When he first got here his kids actually executed and blocked with authority. No mas. Now recruits only the kids who will make Mack happy and doesn’t fight for the talent that doesn’t fit the blueprint. Unhealthy.

Muschamp may be the one to burn this thing to the ground. He could flat torch Mack and his sycophants on the way out and up if Mack tries to play hardball with him.

I can’t believe Dodds wants this to be his legacy after 30 years. And all because of one fat, lazy, protected employee. That, and the fact that Powers is no fool and is fully engaged, are the sources of my hope.

by Black Scholes on Nov 1, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m coming around to the idea that Tomey was not Mack’s idea, and it may have been somewhat of a surprise. I also think Bellmont will now run for cover, which is a damn shame.

Can only hope Tomey left a damning memo on his way out. So little has changed since his last stint that he knows the issues well enough.

by Black Scholes on Nov 1, 2010 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

If he’s been around for a couple of weeks, that’s long enough to write a detailed memo to all concerned.

by Bob in Houston on Nov 1, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

this talk about the coordinators being responsible was to ultimately drag Muschamp into Mack’s game of petty politics

Absolutely. If Mack believes that he can draw an equivalency between Davis and Muschamp in how their squads have performed, then he can continue to protect Davis by saying that “if you call for one’s head, you must call for both,” thereby protecting Davis and shunting the “cult of Boom” from undermining him.

It also wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Mack views Major as some sort of traitor for developing a bond with Muschamp. I think there’s a good chance that these guys end up at the same place on the next stop.

Muschamp may be the one to burn this thing to the ground.

I’m telling you – “burn it down” is catching on. Sailor needs to get this put on a t-shirt, or at least on one of those stretchy wrist band things.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

<i? If he’s been around for a couple of weeks, that’s long enough to write a detailed memo to all concerned.

Exactly. Tomey doesn’t need to spend a month with these guys to see what’s going on. If nothing much has changed, he should be able to figure that out on a brief visit. And his impact is muted if Mack is in on what’s happening.

The more difficult part of this to digest is whether Powers/Dodds would have hired Tomey without Mack’s knowlege. That would be a huge move and effectively a statement of no confidence in Mack.

This isn’t a move that would be made lightly, because there’s a potential for damage to the relationship with Mack that might go beyond repair – he’s a relationship guy, and I can’t imagine that he could look at Powers & Dodds the same way ever again.

by Levander Williams on Nov 1, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

MEMORANDUM

To: W. Powers, D. Dodds, et al
From: R. Tomey
Date: October 31, 2010
Re: Review

Pursuant to our contract dated October 9, 2010, I have fulfilled all obligations and submit the following report predicated on the objectives agreed.

Y’ALL DONE SCREWED UP THE POOCH. HAD IT MADE AND GOT FAT AND LAZY. WTF IS AN “NFL” STYLE CAMP, ANYWAY? AND FOR THE RECORD, YOU LOST YOUR WAY WHEN YOU WENT AWAY FROM NOS UP/DOWNS “I” IMPLEMENTED BEFORE MOVING ON TO GREENER PASTURES. GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOURS. THIS HOUSE OF CARDS IS TEXAS FOLD ’EM.

Sincerely,

Dick Tomey

by TXStampede on Nov 1, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ll say one thing that I know straight from the horse’s mouth. Bill Powers loves him some Muschamp.

I hope this ends up mattering.

by Jas on Nov 1, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

In his pressers Mack is consistently harder on the defense and their play than he is on the offense. I almost think he thinks it is the defense’s fault we are 4-4.

by Frank on Nov 1, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

So I guess this means we are joining the Pac 16?

by That Amore Eel on Nov 1, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack is an offensive coach. I would submit a highly offensive offensive coach. So he has to blame the defense or blame himself. He’s also a whiny little bitch. None of this should be a surprise to anyone who’s been paying attention for 13 years. On one level he’s a great guy and on another, he’s deeply flawed. The deeply flawed Mack is the problem and always has been.

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

The only positive feeling I have about any of this is that I’m going through it all this time at Barking Carnival and not Orangebloods.

December 2003 and January 2004 was maybe the most miserable I’ve been as a UT fan, and I’ve been a UT fan since approximately 1982.

All the teasing. All the false hope. All the echeese.

Mack is such an interesting character, with such extreme strengths and weaknesses. How this all finishes playing out, I think, comes down to Mack Brown’s ego/care for his legacy vs. Mack Brown’s stubbornness/feelings of loyalty to his friend.

I absolutely believe Greg Davis will leave UT when Mack does and not a moment sooner. Greg Davis is the greatest constant of Mack Brown.

And I believe Brown retains Davis, ultimately, as his bulletproof vest. I’ve long thought the Brown holds on so tightly to Davis because, as long as Davis is around, Brown will never get the worst of it. Brown will always look good compared to Davis. Davis is the quintessential hot girl’s fat friend.

Does Mack care more about his legacy or more about his ego protection? Anyone know?

I know that Tim Brewster and Todd Dodge are currently in search of gainful employment. Those are intriguing names to have out there in the midst of all this playing out.

Anyway, thank you, Barking Carnival, for not being Orangebloods.

If I have to get yanked all over this offseason, I’d much rather do it here.

by Homesick Alien on Nov 1, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

However this plays out, I could take comfort in Tim Brewster coming back here, replacing The Ladies’ Man, being around his son for a couple of years, and taking on the responsibilities of Recruiting Coordinator.

by Homesick Alien on Nov 1, 2010 3:45 PM CDT reply actions  

“especially with a chance to back into the XII CCG”

How the hell would that have been “backing in” to the CCG? We’d have defeated OU head-to-head and had an undefeated divisional record.

Backing in is relying on other teams to get you to the CCG. Basically what OU did that year.

by Horncasting on Nov 1, 2010 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Brown will always look good compared to Davis. Davis is the quintessential hot girl’s fat friend.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!! We have a winner.

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

" I could take comfort in Tim Brewster coming back here, replacing The Ladies’ Man, being around his son for a couple of years, and taking on the responsibilities of Recruiting Coordinator."

How funny would it be if the Brewsters saw this coming and that was why Nolan chose to redshirt.

by Horncasting on Nov 1, 2010 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Re Black Scholes: I’m coming around to the idea that Tomey was not Mack’s idea, and it may have been somewhat of a surprise. Based on events and reactions since last night, I agree. I’d like to think Mack could be the one to get an objective second opinion from a qualified expert and friend, but generally speaking, a person in a leadership position with that kind of self awareness would preclude the need for an outside evaluation in the first place.

and Re I’ve been thinking all along that all of this talk about the coordinators being responsible was to ultimately drag Muschamp into Mack’s game of petty politics re his bestest friend. I think LW interpreted this accurately above : If Mack believes that he can draw an equivalency between Davis and Muschamp in how their squads have performed, then he can continue to protect Davis by saying that "if you call for one’s head, you must call for both," Evidence of this stance alone would answer the question of whether or not Tomey was Mack’s idea. Clearly not, imo.

If Mack had an ultimatum that involved a choice between Davis leaving or they both leave, I don’t what he would do. I get the feeling we may be approaching that crossroads.

by triplehorn on Nov 1, 2010 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

What idiot in this day and age would pay subscription fees when you can get quality bullshit anywhere? Morons.

by yojimbox on Nov 1, 2010 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

“And I believe Brown retains Davis, ultimately, as his bulletproof vest. I’ve long thought the Brown holds on so tightly to Davis because, as long as Davis is around, Brown will never get the worst of it. Brown will always look good compared to Davis. "

Interesting take. Very insightful, and probably not far from the truth.

Mack fancies himself an offensive ball coach. What would be his comfort level with a Muschampesque presence on the offensive side of the ball? That may be another source of the dissonance.

by Black Scholes on Nov 1, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Trips either needs a new source or should confront the fact that every legitimate news source has denied this story.

Chip Brown and Bellmont are legitimate news sources.

Ha ha ha ha!

by The General on Nov 1, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I listened to about three minutes of Mack’s Monday presser, and he basically pulls out stats to show that the offense and defense are equally bad and not as good as last year.

So yeah, Mack appears to be getting ready to throw at least one of his coordinators under the bus, and it’s not Davis. Attributed defensive problems to ‘just not as good as last year’ and offensive problems to ‘just a few dropped passes.’

by uthookem on Nov 1, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

uthookem: Oh boy. It’s starting to remind me of when I take a new job and the old fucks that are all burnt out are telling me, “slow down, take it easy, you’re making us look bad.”

Mack and Greg are union workers. Muschamp is the industrious young lad who just wants to get ahead.

by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 1, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Dropped passes and penalties are always the first words to come out of Mack’s mouth when discussing the offense. They are important issues, but it’s obvious why he doesn’t dig any deeper than that when dressing the problem.

by NY Horn on Nov 1, 2010 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Isn’t it quite obvious that Accountability is Ketch.

by Davey O'Brien on Nov 1, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack is right. The defense is not as good as last year because Earl Thomas and Lamarr Houston are gone and Mack didn’t recruit their replacements before Muschamp got here. Well, he did, but they ended up in jail or otherwise off the team or they just weren’t worth a shit. Mack can’t take responsibility for that, so it has to be Muschamp’s fault.

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

How the hell would that have been "backing in" to the CCG?

Well, old dog, after the debacle in Manhattan just previously, it fucking sure felt like “backing in”.

As it happened, I’ll split it with you: we backed out – howzat suit ya?

by Tex Long on Nov 1, 2010 5:43 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s been my position for quite a while that Greg is and has been primarily a sock puppet for Mack and his pretensions as a genius of football offense. Greg, having had – and blown – his chance as HC (taking Tulane from semi-respectability back to the toilet), followed by two unsuccessful stints as OC at Arky and Jawjuh, re-joined Mack with the understanding that his job was to implement what he was told and to catch whatever spears Mack was unable to deflect. Several people have noted what an excellent job Greg does in front of an audience, sounding like he has a good grasp on what an offense needs to do, and he draws very nice diagrams which prove conclusively that his plays will work, provided that the players execute as directed.

Mack simply can’t let him go. Not that Greg would blow the whistle, but that it will be next to impossible to find a replacement who will put up with more of the same.

We’ll see.

by Tex Long on Nov 1, 2010 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

There is only one rational solution and that is for Mack to hang it up and turn the reigns over to Muschamp. That being the case, it is what is least likely to happen. All the players in this saga have gone from being rational when they designated Muschamp as the next head coach to completely irrational because of all the baggage Mack has created with Davis in 13 years of underachievement. This story will not have a happy ending for anyone and the program will suffer for it.

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I don’t really care if they leave kicking and screaming….just so they leave.

by J.R.69 on Nov 1, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

…for Mack to hang it up and turn the reigns over to Muschamp.

I believe that was the plan, until McCoy went down. I predicted before the game that Mack would turn in his jock with that second Xtal Ball in hand. When McCoy bit the turf, instead of handing Gilbert the ball and a license to run the team, he and Greg kept the training wheels on until it was too late. I think Mack was in shock over that outcome, although why he would be surprised when the only player, out of 22 starters, that he failed to prepare a replacement for happened to be the one to fall.

I, too, doubt that his HC ego will let him be a “quitter”. Instead, he’ll live in a cave, plotting to retrieve the Precioussssss.

by Tex Long on Nov 1, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I’m beginning to be of the mind that Mack will take down almost all that he built on his way out. I don’t see the marketable assistants hanging around for that, which leaves you with the guys who have never fielded a recruiter’s call and second-tier replacements for the guys who left. Sound familiar?

The only difference will be that we have learned from our mistakes and we’ll cut our losses in a year or two. Powers is fully engaged here at least, and once the cash flow goes south Mack will have effectively spent the last of his goodwill. In the interim, the damage will be done.

by Black Scholes on Nov 1, 2010 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

If Davis stays and Boom goes Mack will need to go 12-1 or 13-0. Anything less than that and DeLoss will find himself with a 75% full DKR. Since dollars and cents is the only language that Belmont speaks in that’s the only thing that will cause a change at the top. If that happens this program is in real trouble. Basically it’ll be begging to get Muschamp back, and if they fail, most likely wondering the deserts for another 15 years.

by flamingmonkeyass on Nov 1, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree w/ Black Scholes. Mack’s gonna kill his legacy due to his loyalty to GD & not wanting to get shown up by Muschamp.

by Joetx on Nov 1, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

And I believe Brown retains Davis, ultimately, as his bulletproof vest. I’ve long thought the Brown holds on so tightly to Davis because, as long as Davis is around, Brown will never get the worst of it. Brown will always look good compared to Davis.

Mack’s enablers like to tout his loyalty as a redeeming quality. How sadly ironic that he’s really exploiting his “friend” out of self-interest.

by Blueshorn on Nov 1, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Jas…

I sure hope you are right about Powers liking Muschamp a lot. I am to the point I am fine with Mack stepping aside at this point and giving the keys to Will.

Tired of Mack’s constant spin, spilled blood, lack of accountability and protecting of Davis.

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how funny that we are so desperate to believe anything. That’s how religions get started btw

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