Son Of A Preacher Man
Cam Newton, meet Marcus Dupree.
It's amusing to witness this whole Camapalooza get into fifth gear on the heels of a documentary about the courting of Marcus Dupree and his recruiting. Funny how these Men of God are working it.
Joe Schad has more information on the allegations. Of course he said Texas was in the Pac 10, so who knows.
Here's some video:
Also, Kirk Herbstreit joined Mike Squared on the radio.
I am shocked to hear that this information was presented to the SEC all the way back in January. Really, floored.
I am also really disappointed in Cam to hear that he was about to face expulsion from Florida from allegations of academic cheating.
Gene Chizik says it's all garbage.
Cam Newton says it's a lot of speculations.
I'm thinking Cam shouldn't play poker with Phil Helmuth.
"I'm not going to confirm nor deny nothing that has been taking place," Cam's father Cecil Newton said. He also described the recent happenings as a "witch hunt".
Cecil shouldn't take a seat at the poker table either.
He went on to say, "The fact that the erstwhile theocratic nature of society has so thoroughly atrophied has caused a bifurcation between moral laws and state laws. They are no longer one and the same. Putative sin and the status of an individual’s soul are no longer matters of public concern."
It is interesting to see the NCAA manning up in these cases. I also heard rumor of the G Men getting involved. Anybody seen Mulder on the scene?
I am liking Bama in the Iron Bowl and thinking post Reggie Bush, the DAC voting pool is not liking Cam as much as before. Also, when does BC get a Heisman vote? Joe Schad has one!
What do you guys think?
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He’s fucked. I have yet to hear any denial from Cam or Cecil.
by Savage Henry on Nov 10, 2010 1:00 PM CST reply actions
He went on to say, "The fact that the erstwhile theocratic nature of society has so thoroughly atrophied has caused a bifurcation between moral laws and state laws. They are no longer one and the same. Putative sin and the status of an individual’s soul are no longer matters of public concern."
I guffawed.
by bigdukesix on Nov 10, 2010 1:06 PM CST reply actions
It was passed onto me that MSU has a tape of a lunch meeting in Atlanta with Newton’s father dropping several names of SEC programs involved in the bidding war. The NCAA received that tape last January, when the MSU guys set up the sting and reported it. I would imagine it will be much more difficult to track down the money, though.
by dedfischer on Nov 10, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions
Paging, Bobby Lowder.
It was also interesting to hear the kid wanted to go to MSU. Dan Mullen is really, really good, me thinks.
He wanted some of that Tebow shit!
by Sailor Ripley on Nov 10, 2010 1:10 PM CST reply actions
If that were my son, and he was not guilty nor was I complicit, outright denial and scathing retorts at his accusers would be all that came from my mouth. His father’s refusal to deny any of it speaks volumes to me.
by LosHorn on Nov 10, 2010 1:11 PM CST reply actions
Joe Schad has a vote. Damn. Yeah I for sure think he is screwed.
by floridianhorn on Nov 10, 2010 1:11 PM CST reply actions
From the ESPN article:
“I’m standing up here on a very important week trying to defend something that’s garbage,” Chizik said.
You think he’d show his QB a little more support than that.
by Phenomenal Smith on Nov 10, 2010 1:14 PM CST reply actions
I agree Los, where is the indignant denial?
The epic thread over at Shaggy has an Auburn sock puppet claiming (among other things) that big Cecil isn’t defending the family honor because of the NCAA gag order, which is nonsense on stilts.
The whole thing stinks and pretty much was obvious as soon as the first allegations came out: Cecil pimped out his son and Auburn won the auction.
by Johnnymac on Nov 10, 2010 1:17 PM CST reply actions
Hasn’t Scipio been saying forever that Chizik is big in the street agent game?
by Argus on Nov 10, 2010 1:21 PM CST reply actions
Paging Rusty Hardin please pick up the nearest courtesy phone.
by roach on Nov 10, 2010 1:23 PM CST reply actions
I would like for the NCAA to decide if Tevin Jackson is eligible before Cam Newton.
by maninblack on Nov 10, 2010 1:23 PM CST reply actions
I can’t wait to hear who made the payment(s) and what did Chizik know and when did he know it.
by Blueshorn on Nov 10, 2010 1:34 PM CST reply actions
I automatically thought about Pastor Cecil Newton when I watched Rev. Ken Fairney completely take advantage of Marcus Dupree. Crazy timing for this documentary.
by jttexas05 on Nov 10, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions
How did the Baylor folks get access to Mr. Newton’s check register?
by GigoloJoe on Nov 10, 2010 1:50 PM CST reply actions
I think the Newton’s didn’t quite understand how the game works. They seemed to be a little too open about it and got greedy. This obviously isn’t an isolated case, but I do think it’s an extreme one.
by dedfischer on Nov 10, 2010 1:52 PM CST reply actions
On a more serious note, there are two possibilities in this Cam situation:
1. Cam and his father are dirty and deserve having their shenanigans aired for all the world to see.
2. Someone is out to get Cam and Auburn, and is orchestrating this smear campaign.
by GigoloJoe on Nov 10, 2010 1:53 PM CST reply actions
“Cam Newton phoned another recruiter to express regret that he wouldn’t be going to Mississippi State, stating that his father Cecil had chosen Auburn for him because “the money was too much.”"
Let’s just think about this statement for a minute. Cam Newton calls a recruiter at MSU and openly admits to a blatant recruiting violation? He admits to being paid by another school in the same conference division?
It’s either a total fabrication or Cam Newton is one of the dumbest people ever.
by Holdem on Nov 10, 2010 2:26 PM CST reply actions
reminds me of the scene from goodfellas when the guy buys a cadillac for his wife after the Lufthansa heist.
Chizik: “Didn’t I tell you not to buy anything? Didn’t I?”
Cecil Newton: “It was a gift! Fo’ the Lawd!!!!!”
by Nero on Nov 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST reply actions
I think the little Frogs that could are gonna get their shot at the whole enchilada.
by Dude on Nov 10, 2010 2:42 PM CST reply actions
Send your money to Jeeeeesus, but make the check out to me.
by Blueshorn on Nov 10, 2010 2:46 PM CST reply actions
The price tag out of high school was $0? (Riiiiiiight.)
But after two years at Blinn it was 200k?
Don’t you ever underestimate the value of a Buccaneer education.
The mention of ‘witch hunt’ means the race card is days from dropping. If the NCAA knew about this in January, why did it take allegations from an ex-Miss St. player to break this? Sounds like the Cammer was good for business and it was going to be left alone until that noise broke.
by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 10, 2010 2:47 PM CST reply actions
Time to start assessing Newton’s draft stock.
Nero,
Yeah, except Cecil is the mobster, and Cam’s the chick riding bitch. I wonder, did they paint the church pink in honor of the caddy.
Dude,
And they’ll deserve it. Not even concussions could slow TCU down at this point.
by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 10, 2010 2:53 PM CST reply actions
IF this is true, what does it say about Chizik?
a) He did not know about the money being paid
b) He did know, and approved
From his two years at UT (which included helping us win the NC in 2005) what were people’s impressions of his character? Is he an honorable man?
by GigoloJoe on Nov 10, 2010 3:00 PM CST reply actions
I think the little Frogs that could are gonna get their shot at the whole enchilada.
It’s hard to imagine two schools with less combined national appeal making the MNC game than the Frogs and Ducks.
by bigdukesix on Nov 10, 2010 3:01 PM CST reply actions
The mention of ‘witch hunt’ means the race card is days from dropping.
Magnus, this is a very good point.
They’ve already tried a little bit here and there to get that going, but as soon as Cam is finally banned or benched they’ll unleash the race hounds for real.
by Johnnymac on Nov 10, 2010 3:13 PM CST reply actions
Cam’s obviously lying. Blinking his eyes, trying to avoid eye contact, not really answering any questions, etc., etc.
And then his dad. "I’m not going to confirm nor deny nothing that has been taking place." Nothing that has been taking place? These people are the worst liars I’ve ever seen.
by BrickHorn on Nov 10, 2010 3:21 PM CST reply actions
The deal with Chizik at Auburn is simple.
They’ve got a program of cheating.
You either put an end to it or you turn your head.
Chizik made his choice.
by Scipio Tex on Nov 10, 2010 3:33 PM CST reply actions
bigdukesix,
As a fan, doesn’t the appeal of TCU assignment football vs. the blitzkrieg offense of Oregon appeal to you? I’d love to see it. It would be good for 3 quarters at least.
Ag, that’s awesome on it’s face, but even better that it was submitted by a Baylor site. I’m guessing you troll there after coming here to be cleansed?
by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM CST reply actions
Lying is a sin. Taking money to play college ball….probably not so much. I guess.
by Daniel on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM CST reply actions
Trolling BaylorFans.com is a guilty plesaure of mine.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 10, 2010 3:42 PM CST reply actions
Chizik never struck me as the kind of guy who would be involved in, or even turn his head from, this kind of stuff. He reminds me of the prohibition agent in Boardwalk Empire.
by nordberg on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 PM CST reply actions
“Cam’s obviously lying. Blinking his eyes, trying to avoid eye contact, not really answering any questions, etc., etc. "
I once spent about ten minutes talking with Kevin Durant and he did that the whole time and I’m sure he wasn’t lying, because the conversation just didn’t have anything in it worth lying about.
Now that doesn’t prove that Cam is inocent or guilty, but it could be that he is a bad public speaker.
by Holdem on Nov 10, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions
Holdem,
I once spent about ten minutes talking with Kevin Durant and he did that the whole time and I’m sure he wasn’t lying, because the conversation just didn’t have anything in it worth lying about.
Good point. Just like Kevin Durant, Cam Newton may simply think that his audience has halitosis and is wasting 10 minutes of his life.
by BrickHorn on Nov 10, 2010 3:52 PM CST reply actions
That’s fucked up Brick.
/Holdem backs away from the computer
/looks around
/cups hand
/breaths into cupped hand and smells
/pops a Trident
by magnusbleuveigner on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM CST reply actions
The rest of SEC seems to be eerily quiet about all of this.
by TangentOrange on Nov 10, 2010 4:19 PM CST reply actions
“It’s hard to imagine two schools with less combined national appeal making the MNC game than the Frogs and Ducks.”
So your saying I should unload my $300 2010/11 MNC tickets now prior to the suspension of Cam Newton?
by roach on Nov 10, 2010 4:27 PM CST reply actions
As a fan, doesn’t the appeal of TCU assignment football vs. the blitzkrieg offense of Oregon appeal to you? I’d love to see it. It would be good for 3 quarters at least.
It does appeal to me, because these particular teams are good. I was referring to the appeal of the programs though. Oregon is nouveau riche (at best), while TCU is just a bunch of purple a-holes from one of them loser conferences. Not exactly Texas-Bama or USC-Oklahoma. I anticipate the average college football fan being less geared up for this MNC game than usual.
by bigdukesix on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions
It’s pretty funny that the cleanest guy in the SEC (Tubbs) was kicked to the curb so the boosters could install a puppet like the Chiz and begin a reign of terror in illegal recruiting on a scale that only Lane Kiffin would approve of.
It’s like some upstart crew went and tried to take territory away from an established family, resulting in the five families taking action to annihilate this wily new bunch.
by The Mad Clapper on Nov 10, 2010 6:44 PM CST reply actions
Is it just me or does Cam seem drunk in the linked interview?
At least they hold true to their morals. Cam and his dad refuse to lie about it.
I hope the SEC gets put on the hot seat by the NCAA for not doing anything about this when it was brought to their attention in January.
by UTomlinson on Nov 10, 2010 6:49 PM CST reply actions
If it means anything, Gus Malzahn may come available soon.
by Confused and Dazed on Nov 10, 2010 6:53 PM CST reply actions
Maybe we can hire Gus and Dana and have Major as their personal assistant.
by The Mad Clapper on Nov 10, 2010 6:56 PM CST reply actions
If the race card is about to get played, how long before we see a press conference involving Jesse Jackson?
by ut-06 on Nov 10, 2010 7:13 PM CST reply actions
talking to a friend of mine this summer who is an Auburn alum and he outlined Alabama’s favorite way to “pay for play” was to donate money to an “uncles” church. Irony
by Stop calling me Surely on Nov 10, 2010 7:24 PM CST reply actions
In regards to how smart Newton is I give you evidence his first year at Florida. When Urban can’t protect your ass and has to farm you out to a junior college things aren’t good.
In response to why now? Any doubt where the impetus came from? I have heard a rumor that Meyer farmed Newton out to Blinn to be baby sat for a year, get his shit together, return after the chosen one left for a higher calling, and it is business as usual in Gainesville. One small problem, while in Blinn Newton was exposed to certain people that made sure he realized that a talent like him was redeemable now instead of waiting for the NFL.
Newton ends up at Auburn, Urban is stock with Brantley, and Mullin has the evidence. Mullin sends it to the SEC and NCAA, but they don’t want to advance it. Not good enough for Urban so he goes Tom Penders and starts leaking info to media sources.
Might be farfetched, but look at the amount of activity that has taken place since last Saturday. LSU beats Bama so they are out, LSU lost to Auburn so Auburn has the tiebreak, Auburn can win one game without Newton, but they can’t win the Iron Bowl. Urban is about to sneak into the SEC title game and they have no shot playing Auburn with Newton, but Auburn without is a completely different matter.
This might be a bit Oliver Stone, but it is the SEC afterall.
by Davey O"rBrien on Nov 10, 2010 7:34 PM CST reply actions
Davey -
I think you did a nice job of laying out exactly what I believe happened.
I would add that Meyer was willing for Miss State and his old OC Mullen to get Newton if he couldn’t, but once Cam went to Auburn, both Miss State and Florida became allies.
by Scipio Tex on Nov 10, 2010 7:41 PM CST reply actions
Davey,
That is a very plausible scenario, and if you troll enough message boards you’ll see Auburn fans saying all kinds of not so nice things about Urban Meyer and his family right now because they believe – know – that he’s behind it.
But what I can’t quite understand is why they think he would necessarily make it up out of thin air, or, conversely, why they think that they could have landed Cam for free in the first place.
But I think you are very close to the truth.
by Johnnymac on Nov 10, 2010 8:53 PM CST reply actions
@Mad Clapper
Actually, Chizik wasn’t even really close to being on the Booster’s radar. How that went down has been floating around ever since Tubs got the axe. Here’s the Reader’s Digest version, and from what I understand it is extremely close to the truth.
Get the popcorn, get comfortable, and let me tell you a tale. I can neither verify nor deny the authenticity of this story. However, I can verify that there are many truths in it than can be proved. That being said enjoy.
I got these facts from a buddy of mine who is not in the habit of telling tall tales. I’ll just call him “Benny”. Here’s the tale:
Some Auburn relatives were over this past weekend, some of whom are fairly well connected to the program at Auburn and their boosters.
The night Alabama drilled Auburn 36-0, a prominent Auburn booster (not the usual bank-owning one but one who sells pressure-treated wood and wears a yellow hat) made a phone call. This may have been a $5.1 million phone call.
Since he knows most of the SEC coaches on a first-name basis and shoots ads with many of them, he has their personal private phone numbers. So he calls Houston Nutt over in Mississippi and asks what it might take to have Houston change his address again to Auburn.
Apparently, Auburn has a nasty habit of stealing coaches from Ole Miss, but Nutt tells old Yella Fella that he can’t take the hit on the credibility scale right now for that kind of move, but thanks.
What many people may not know or may have forgotten is the infamous “Jet Gate” scandal. That was where Bobby Lowder boarded a jet and flew to Louisville to offer then Head Coach Bobby Petrino the head coaching job at Auburn.
Trouble was, Auburn had a head coach who was doing a fairly good job and when word leaked out, the fans and much of administration rallied so strongly that Tuberville was bulletproof. He was now able to snub his nose to Lowder, Pat Dye, and the administration?and boosters that wanted him gone.
These were not men who took a snubbing well. They bade their time until they felt the fans would no longer be a factor. Surely Auburn missing a bowl game, being drilled by Alabama, and the whole Tony Franklin fiasco took all the aces out of Tuberville’s hand.
Now here’s where it gets interesting. Following “Jet Gate”, Tommy had a unique non-interference clause put in his last contract. Auburn pledged that neither the school president nor athletics director or anyone acting under their authority “shall discuss or negotiate directly or indirectly Auburn’s prospective employment of any other person as Head Football Coach of Auburn” without giving Tuberville prior notice.
In non-lawyerese, it basically means that if Auburn got caught monkeying around with a new coach behind Tommy’s back again he gets paid?a lot.
Unfortunately for Auburn, Nutt’s agent is Jimmy Sexton and that just happens to be
Tuberville’s agent too. Nutt drops this little nugget to Sexton and Tommy walks in the following Monday discussing his intentions to resign and wants his money now that he knows his contract has been breached.
Now Tuberville can get the money AND leave and coach elsewhere, in effect getting double pay for the next three years! A nice retirement package indeed. Plus, he gets to have the last laugh and snub the backstabbers one more time.
So maybe Auburn was right, maybe Tuberville really did resign. Why wouldn’t he? Multi-day discussions ensued, and I’m sure there were lawyers involved. I’m sure it was painfully explained that old Yella Fella could and would be legally held to be an “official booster” much to the dismay of Auburn and the bad boy boosters.
In the end, we see Tuberville’s official resignation on December 3 and Auburn paying him the buyout anyway because according to Auburn, it “is the right thing to do.” Yes, it’s the right thing under the contract. Otherwise, who pays buyouts for resignations, right?
Now, guess who Gene Chizik’s agent is? Ding Ding Ding! You are right if you guessed Jimmy Sexton. Now, how does Auburn keep “Jet Gate II” from hitting the front of ESPN in an embarrassing manner? The fans would simply go mad.
Hmmm, perhaps by hiring a Sexton client who needs to get out of his personal football coaching hell known as Iowa State? How else is he going to go anywhere with that 5-19 record?
So, Tuberville walks away with $5.1 million and change and the right to sign another big contract with another team, Nutt gets a nice salary bump and an extension when Ole Miss gets wind of their coach being dangled some bait, and Chiznik gets a big salary increase and a chance from jump a sinking ship into a head coaching job at a big time SEC school.
And Sexton makes almost a million dollars in new commissions off the three new deals. This seems to explain the inexplicable way in which this all went down.
Will we ever know? Not until Jimmy Sexton writes his tell all book, “Tales of the Super Sports Agent.” But it’s the best version I’ve heard so far.
It’s also been said that Lowder tried to contact Muschamp as well. Oh, and Jimmy Sexton is also his agent too.
by Mister Mike on Nov 10, 2010 9:15 PM CST reply actions
Damn I love this site. Two great stories in four posts.
by roach on Nov 10, 2010 10:05 PM CST reply actions
That Jimmy Sexton is the agent for every major college football coach in the southern U.S. is no big secret.
The story also neglects to mention that Chizik was about the 10th choice for Auburn, who interviewed at least eight candidates: Ball State’s Brady Hoke, Louisiana Tech’s Derek Dooley, Buffalo’s Turner Gill, TCU’s Gary Patterson, Wake Forest’s Jim Grobe, Tulsa’s Todd Graham, Georgia assistant Rodney Garner and Miami offensive coordinator Patrick Nix.
In addition, Auburn offered the job to Houston Nutt and reached out to Petrino (both said “no thanks”). Auburn also approchaed Jimbo Fisher, but his $5MM buyout from FSU was a problem, and they approached Will Muschamp.
Chizik was a desperation hire for a program that embarassed itself by getting rid of Tuberville.
And, in my mind, the seeds of the Cam Newton stuff were sown the moment Chizik’s plane landed from Ames, Iowa to be greeted by a booing crowd of Auburn fans.
No doubt that Chizik would willingly turn a blind eye to the recruiting practices of the Auburn boosters, who salvaged his career from ISU. Once he hired Trooper Taylor and Curtis Luper, the writing was on the wall. Add in the fact that Nick Saban was sucking all of the oxygen out of the in-state recruiting atmosphere. Then, go watch the sordid little video of Trooper, Luper and the band of recruits at Toomer’s Corner this past Spring. Then, ask yourself how Auburn got official visits from 3 out-of-state Five Star RBs at the same time (Seastrunk, Lattimore, and Dyer…which ain’t bad for a Malzahn-led spread offense0). Finally, there was the little incident this spring of Auburn coachs hitting the recruiting trail in rented limos to visit recruits for in-home visits. Nice….
Anybody who doesn’t think that a shameless self-promoter like Chizik willingly signed up for the practices of Auburn football recruiting hasn’t been paying attention. That’s why he got hired in the first place. The Cam Newton fiasco was predictable the second Chizik was hired.
by Glass Joe on Nov 10, 2010 10:35 PM CST reply actions
“The rest of SEC seems to be eerily quiet about all of this.”
Probably because at least half of them are implicated.
by Gate_of_Horn on Nov 10, 2010 11:41 PM CST reply actions
The Toomer’s Corner event, referred to above:
http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2009/12/auburns_big_cat_weekend_result.html
Just a story, couldn’t quickly find the video
by GigoloJoe on Nov 10, 2010 11:54 PM CST reply actions
The other question that I don’t have an answer to in this is “why Blinn?” Normally, the SEC schools stash their players in one of the many Mississippi JUCOs, or even a JUCO in Florida or Kansas. But I don’t recall many SEC recruits being stashed at Blinn.
The Blinn angle makes me curious because that is Franchione’s kid running the Blinn program, and the connection between Urban Meyer and Dennis Franchione goes back to Fran trying to hire Meyer as OC while Fran was at New Mexico in the mid 1990s. Odd coincidence?
by Glass Joe on Nov 11, 2010 5:30 AM CST reply actions
Glass Joe,
Blinn has become a very good JUCO program and it is outside the spotlight of the south. Why put him in Mississippi where every school in the SEC can easily follow him. Instead place him at a school you believe is safe with a coach that you have a link.
Unfortunately, just down 290 is Houston and certain individuals that have a reputation for making sure young men and their families realize just how badly they are being treated by the colleges and it is time they get their share.
by Davey O'Brien on Nov 11, 2010 7:58 AM CST reply actions
Davey,
I knew that a certain Houston-based stret agent was responsible for getting Seastrunk and Trovon Reed to Auburn’s Toomers Corner event (and got Reed to commit to Auburn) but I never heard of him being involved with other Auburn recruits via Blinn.
The fact that this street agent’s clients were even taking official visits to Auburn ought to tell everybody all they need to know about Chizik’s program.
Come to think of it, didn’t Ahmad Dixon (another son of a preacher, and client of the same street agent) also take an official to Auburn too?
by Glass Joe on Nov 11, 2010 8:52 AM CST reply actions
Funny how these Men of God are working it.
If, by “funny,” you mean “utterly predictable, because that’s what they got into the racket for,” then, yes. Funny.
by spider on Nov 11, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions
Schad report debunked?
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/sec-espn-report-is-wrong-calls-not-reported-29230
by GigoloJoe on Nov 11, 2010 1:40 PM CST reply actions
We’ve been documenting the Will Lyles saga for some time here. CloseToJumping wrote some excellent articles and it took off from there.
Google away.
by Scipio Tex on Nov 11, 2010 1:41 PM CST reply actions
Time to go Oliver Stone here for a minute. Why would the SEC or the NCAA want these allegations to be true?
If you are the SEC you are close to once again having one of your teams play for the national championship and revalidate your position as the dominant conference in college football. I am sure internally there is the tired old lines like what is the best for the group outweighs the needs of the individuals. Newton is gone after this year and the league will move on.
if you are the NCAA you are fed solely by the well being of the television revenues generated by the NCAA. It is fai better for the current power structure to have Auburn in that championship game and not Boise and TCU. If TCU or Boise does and somehow wins it raises questions as to why is the process limited to just a few and not everyone. This in turn threatens the current set-up that funnels the bulk of the bowl money to the chosen conferences.
I think Mullins and Meyer know what they know to be true, but they don’t have proof. Mullin himself could have had the conversation, but unless someone went Bruce Pearle and recorded the conversation there is no link. No link there is no proof of wrong doing and the story goes dies quickly.
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