UPDATED: Teryl Austin - Coordinator Swap, Coming Soon To The Lifetime Channel? Whither Withers?
According to 24-7, he's in negotiations with us as our next DC.
Are Texas and Florida swapping coordinator sister-wives like the couples in The Ice Storm?
Teryl Austin was Florida's DC last year after seven years in the NFL with the Seahawks and Cardinals, where he coached defensive backs. Before that he had 12 years of college coaching (all DB) at Wake, Syracuse and Michigan. His actual coordinator experience is extremely light, but his background matches the very specific requirements laid out in the UT job posting almost exactly.
Just like Randy Shannon. Wrong - Shannon doesn't have 7 years in the NFL. Only three. The plot thickens, doesn't it?
Was Randy Shannon a head fake in South Florida while the real target was in Gainesville?
If Austin's background is exclusively DBs, how does that jibe with Akina? Are our LBs about to get the short end of the coaching stick again?
Austin's defense was characterized by solid statistical rankings betrayed by a very poor offense that inflated points per game allowed with turnovers and short fields. Florida also struggled at times to stop the run. Sound familiar?
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Quick update:
It sounds like Austin. It also fits Everett Withers from North Carolina. The job description match is Austin to the tee, but also covers Withers as well:
Minimum twelve (12) years coaching experience in a university 1-A program. Minimum 7 years experience coaching in the NFL
Austin has exactly 12 years coaching college DBs. He was in the NFL for 7. Withers goes 15 and 7.
Also, the job posting mentions no specific time period as a Coordinator. Don't you find that strange?
BTW, Muschamp would not have been hired here under those requirements. They were written with a specific candidate in mind. And that candidate is not Randy Shannon.
It looks a lot like Austin or Withers.
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The public job description is his CV exactly to the number of years and qualifications.
by Mocking Bird on Dec 13, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions
Austin in Austin. Don’t know enough about him. Checking with my UF friends to see what they think.
by Patrick Bateman on Dec 13, 2010 3:58 PM CST reply actions
Sure hope Shannon made a unilateral decision to back out of the job at Kentucky.
by srr50 on Dec 13, 2010 4:01 PM CST reply actions
Didn’t Florida have a bunch of young guys and freshman (basically all new starters)? His 1st year is probably more comparable to Will’s 1st at Texas.
by Mocking Bird on Dec 13, 2010 4:02 PM CST reply actions
Maybe we get co-DC’s. Ha, ha, ha. Not the splash many were hoping for, but if he can coach then great…..
by Patrick Bateman on Dec 13, 2010 4:02 PM CST reply actions
Is this a name that will impress recruits? (Seriously, because I don’t have a feel for this with him.) DC for only one year during the worst season in Urban Meyer’s tenure. It may not have been his fault, but is one year DC experience enough to prove anything?
19 years coaching before getting a shot at DC seems like a long time if you’re top tier program good enough.
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Dec 13, 2010 4:04 PM CST reply actions
He’s also coached twice in the SB…..losing both times….His units were known for creating a lot of turnovers…..
by Patrick Bateman on Dec 13, 2010 4:05 PM CST reply actions
Never heard of him until he was hired at Florida. He’s not a hot name or anything.
Meyer’s issue was offense. Like ours. I am concerned about the light DC resume.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 13, 2010 4:07 PM CST reply actions
Is it even fathomable that we get Shannon and Austin as CO-OC’s? Shannon could coach linebackers and Austin DB’s…assuming Akina goes with Muschamp.
by Patrick on Dec 13, 2010 4:07 PM CST reply actions
Didn’t see that one coming. Maybe this is the head-fake.
I didn’t watch Florida this year, so I have no idea what he likes to do schematically.
Parting thought – does it strike anyone else as odd that Austin, having one year in a coordinator role, would be deemed “coordinator-worthy” by Mack, but Applewhite presumably doesn’t make that same cut?
by Levander Williams on Dec 13, 2010 4:07 PM CST reply actions
I’m wondering if we are hiring 2 or 3 defensive coaches.
by ultralight on Dec 13, 2010 4:07 PM CST reply actions
Levander-
Particularly as Applewhite gets to watch peer Josh Heupel named co-OC at OU.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 13, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions
Someone tell me how I am supposed to feel about this.
Also any validity to the Florida players being told this afternoon that Major is their new OC?
At this point I want all of this to be over so we can concentrate on holding our recruits together. If Mack f’s up this program I don’t know what I am going to do. Maybe just get it over with and move to Costa Rica.
by justhookit on Dec 13, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions
Levander,
I was thinking the same thing….What does that say to Applewhite, who actually has a few more years at the coordinator level. No wonder he left. Also, who coaches the LBs? Seems strange since with have a good DB coach…
by Patrick Bateman on Dec 13, 2010 4:10 PM CST reply actions
I know literally nothing about this guy. He looks younger, which is a good thing. Also, I can’t see Meyer hiring someone who didn’t know their business.
by Toadvine on Dec 13, 2010 4:16 PM CST reply actions
This could be a complete fake out. The “preferred qualifications” are completely meaningless and are meant to be contextual for actual job seekers.
It isn’t like they posted this on Craigslist hoping to snag a former UF DC.
by Mocking Bird on Dec 13, 2010 4:18 PM CST reply actions
Assuming Austin is a legitimate DC candidate…
To me, it would point to an outcome-based decision by Mack. He looks at the stats, looks at the Florida DC slot on the resume, and he concludes that “by God, Florida always has a good defense, and those stats back it up. Plus, we do great hiring SEC coordinators, and Urban liked him enough to bring him in. Let’s hire him!”
I’m oversimplifying, but I can’t imagine that some of this didn’t go through his head. I just don’t have any idea what the process / analysis would be based on. Randy Shannon would seem to make a lot more sense, but I’m open to being educated on why I’m wrong.
by Levander Williams on Dec 13, 2010 4:18 PM CST reply actions
Sounds like Shannon is/was in town as well. So perhaps Mack is focused on those 2, and drew up the req to match the lesser of their qualifications. Does Withers qualify too? (surely one of you is less lazy than I am, and can check…)
by cornbread n flapjack on Dec 13, 2010 4:19 PM CST reply actions
I realize when new head coaches come in they rarely keep current coaching staff unless they are highly thought of. Will recruits look at this type of hire (if he is hired as the DC) as…he wasn’t good enough for Muschamp but he ‘s good enough for Texas? I’m not sure what kind of, if any, message that sends.
by sunset87 on Dec 13, 2010 4:21 PM CST reply actions
Carl Weathers has tons of experience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Weathers
by Toadvine on Dec 13, 2010 4:21 PM CST reply actions
Well, as Toad indicated. It’s not like Meyer and Foley didn’t vet this guy. He has a good solid rep from what I’m gathering but he’s not a sexy hire. He won’t have a ton of recruiting ties either. He’s been in the pros since 03’. Strange hire if true but I’ll reserve judgment for now….
by Patrick Bateman on Dec 13, 2010 4:22 PM CST reply actions
That’s it – we need to bug Saban’s phone and office and find out who he’s going to pursue to replace Smart.
If you can’t beat em, surveil them.
by Levander Williams on Dec 13, 2010 4:28 PM CST reply actions
Smart and Muschamp may finally get to make that buddy movie together, like Clint Eastwood and that one guy who traveled in big-rig trucks with orangatan boxers.
by Mocking Bird on Dec 13, 2010 4:28 PM CST reply actions
I don’t know what is in it for Smart. That’s just a lateral move and a speculative one.
by Toadvine on Dec 13, 2010 4:30 PM CST reply actions
Don’t worry about linebackers, we have MacDuff on retainer
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 4:30 PM CST reply actions
So Luther Campbell is perhaps not totally plugged into this situation?
by bigdukesix on Dec 13, 2010 4:32 PM CST reply actions
Agree with Toadvine. Smart should wait for an HC gig of his own.
by Mocking Bird on Dec 13, 2010 4:32 PM CST reply actions
Why would you wait for a HC gig of your own under Saban, or do it under your best friend, Muschamp. Particularly when all signs pointing to you taking over your alma mater in a year or two.
by SydneyCarton on Dec 13, 2010 4:35 PM CST reply actions
“I don’t know what is in it for Smart. That’s just a lateral move and a speculative one.”
Getting as far away as possible from Lou Saban.
by roach on Dec 13, 2010 4:35 PM CST reply actions
I guess it gets him out from under Saban and is another high-profile place to succeed. Maybe he’ll be Will’s “Greg Davis”
by ultralight on Dec 13, 2010 4:36 PM CST reply actions
I can’t figure out if I want Corch Teryl Austin or Corch Randy Shannon.
by Homesick Alien on Dec 13, 2010 4:37 PM CST reply actions
Sr50
Thinking same…he had dc offer @ KY in hand! Pun intended :)
No way…no how he rejects $$$ on table if it was uncertain he would not be DC @ Texas
KY has since filled DC position and do not think that Mack would leave him out to dry unless…he comes in w/ title Asst Head Coach/LB with final say on defensive game plan?
Which then leaves Texas oppty to extend DC coord position
by BevoBoom on Dec 13, 2010 4:37 PM CST reply actions
I don’t want to live in a world where I can’t trust 2 Live Crew.
Nor do I want to live in a world where a Muschamp cast off is our DC.
by Von Kaiser on Dec 13, 2010 4:37 PM CST reply actions
Sydney –
Saban is a known brand and will be a fixture in the BCS scene.
Muschamp could easily be Ron Zook or Stoops or something in-b/w. Why take the gamble when all you have to do is wait for Georgia to open?
by Mocking Bird on Dec 13, 2010 4:38 PM CST reply actions
I don’t know what is in it for Smart.
Filthy lucre.
by bigdukesix on Dec 13, 2010 4:40 PM CST reply actions
Why would there be any need for a head fake hiring a coordinator? Particularly given the need to move quickly…
by RF on Dec 13, 2010 4:41 PM CST reply actions
We hire coaches like we recruit, whoever begs the hardest wins..
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 4:43 PM CST reply actions
Just kidding all…..
http://texas.247sports.com/Board/21/Just-talked-to-Austin—488125/1
“Florida defensive coordinator Teryl Austin said that he has not been contacted by Mack Brown about the Longhorns’ opening at defensive coordinator.
"I’m friends with (Texas receivers coach) Bobby Kennedy," Austin said. "And we’ve talked. But that’s probably about it right now."
Asked if he was interested in the Longhorns’ defensive coordinator position, Austin said, "Right now I have a job at Florida.""
by Patrick Bateman on Dec 13, 2010 4:44 PM CST reply actions
Welcome to the internet age of reporting — so many outlets fighting for stories means very little vetting of information.
Just throw it against the wall and see what sticks.
by srr50 on Dec 13, 2010 4:49 PM CST reply actions
Stevie from Eastbound & Down would ask:
“Are we hiring both of these motherfuckers?”
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 4:50 PM CST reply actions
What are the odds Akina is going to FL and Austin is coming to coach DBs while Shannon is DC? Or maybe they’re Co-DCs?
by Blueshorn on Dec 13, 2010 4:50 PM CST reply actions
Maybe Mack is still looking for moles and all this is disinformation.
by Blueshorn on Dec 13, 2010 4:52 PM CST reply actions
He should see a dermatologist about that. And hire some coordinators now.
by Toadvine on Dec 13, 2010 4:54 PM CST reply actions
Blues,
If that is the case we will know that Mack has truly gone insane with paranoia.
by WanderingHorn on Dec 13, 2010 4:55 PM CST reply actions
This guy is no deadbeat. He may not be splashy, like Shannon, but he is not Eugene from Grease.
by Manos - Hands Of Fate on Dec 13, 2010 4:55 PM CST reply actions
Sizzlechest, you’re intimidating me with your alphaness.
by bigdukesix on Dec 13, 2010 4:56 PM CST reply actions
SizzleChest -
I say this with love, but PLEASE don’t conjure any images of Stevie! Biggest hand grenade tossed into an otherwise bad-ass comedy since Rosie Perez in White Men Can’t Jump.
I’m not listening to any more OC/DC rumors unless they come right from Jesus or they actually sign on the line that is dotted. I am amazed that it looks like we’re going to end Monday without an announcement on either side of the ball – I was glad to hear Jesus’ news that most of our recruits are solid/re-winnable but let’s get this damn show on the road.
by nobis60 on Dec 13, 2010 4:57 PM CST reply actions
I hate you for posting that. My blood boils when I see the “defense was terrible” crowd.
Maybe Mack is still looking for moles and all this is disinformation.
In today’s information age, there are not enough laser treatments to rid us of all the moles.
by Texoz on Dec 13, 2010 4:58 PM CST reply actions
Welcome to the interent age of reporting — so many outlets fighting for stories means very little vetting of information.
Just throw it against the wall and see what sticks.
Journalism textbooks refer to it as the Glory Hole approach.
by Texoz on Dec 13, 2010 5:00 PM CST reply actions
I, too, grow tired with this speculation. Enough!
Cook! Where’s my hossenfeffer?!?
by Manos - Hands Of Fate on Dec 13, 2010 5:05 PM CST reply actions
I happen to think that Stevie rocks. This is a good thread, what with an obscure MST3k handle and a shout out to Eastbound & Down. Let’s get Kenny Powders up in this bitch as a consultant post haste.
by Felonious Monk on Dec 13, 2010 5:12 PM CST reply actions
Don’t fear whorns, I’m sure Mack has the best consulting firms in the country working this search for him. Its what any good self-respecting CEO would do.
I’m sorry I can’t resist – the consulting firm had the players sign their names?!?! That is rich.
by thegreatkeithjackson on Dec 13, 2010 5:14 PM CST reply actions
A Shannon/Austin combo with an Akina departure makes the most sense to me. Of course none of this makes sense anymore.
by Savage Henry on Dec 13, 2010 5:19 PM CST reply actions
nobis, I’m saddened that you’re not a Stevie fan. He’s a perfect match for KPs character and behavior – the perfect (and I mean perfect) jock-sniffer, plus the writers characterized him as even more sexually deviant than KP. There’s a reason he was the only main character brought back for Season 2, and it had nothing to do with KPs character arc.
bigdukesix – UF is Steve Forrest, Texas is Milton Berle. We just will take out enough to win. It’s an obscure story, but if you know it, that line will make perfect sense.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 5:22 PM CST reply actions
I, too, grow tired with this speculation. Enough!
Cook! Where’s my hossenfeffer?!?
It’s mole chili.
by triplehorn on Dec 13, 2010 5:30 PM CST reply actions
roach-
Actually, Lou and Nick Saban were cousins, not father/son.
by TornJock on Dec 13, 2010 5:33 PM CST reply actions
Just for nobis60:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwRqMLibFA
Stevie: I was the drum major.
KP: what the fuck is that?
Stevie: I led the whole marching band. I wore a cape sophomore year.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 5:34 PM CST reply actions
Stevie is the best felating role of a main character since Scotty in Boogie Nights.
by dedfischer on Dec 13, 2010 5:37 PM CST reply actions
“Without Stevie, there can be no KP.”
— Confucius, or Some Other Asian Guy
by goofybevo on Dec 13, 2010 5:37 PM CST reply actions
I’ll accept Austin if he agrees to bring Sharrif Floyd, Dominique Easley and Ronald Powell with him. Otherwise I’m still leaning toward preferring Shannon (admittedly this is based almost entirely on name cache)
by Max Fischer on Dec 13, 2010 5:40 PM CST reply actions
Back to the subject at hand.
I now think it’s Austin. The job description match is him to the tee:
Minimum twelve (12) years coaching experience in a university 1-A program. Minimum 7 years experience coaching in the NFL
Austin has exactly 12 years coaching college DBs. He was in the NFL for 7.
Also, the job posting mentions no specific time period as a Coordinator. Don’t you find that strange?
BTW, Muschamp would have not been hired here under those requirements. They were written with a specific candidate in mind.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 13, 2010 5:41 PM CST reply actions
So…this means Austin to Austin and Shannon to Gainsville?
by Texoz on Dec 13, 2010 5:47 PM CST reply actions
My friend is a huge Eastbound fan but can’t stand Stevie. Blows my mind. He’s one of the greatest characters on TV.
by Savage Henry on Dec 13, 2010 5:50 PM CST reply actions
Scipio,
Withers also has 13 years in D1 and 7 in the NFL.
by t1climb1 on Dec 13, 2010 5:54 PM CST reply actions
Yes, he does. I just looked at it. Everett Withers would be in play then too.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 13, 2010 5:58 PM CST reply actions
Kirby going to Florida is just rubbing salt in the wound.
I think Mack forget to include “one foot in the grave” on the job posting, we’ll be up and running when they get that fixed.
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 6:08 PM CST reply actions
How long does the DC posting have to be up before we can officially make the hire?
by FGD on Dec 13, 2010 6:10 PM CST reply actions
We can make a hire whenever we please.
Formal assumption of job duties require a 5 day wait, I think.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 13, 2010 6:12 PM CST reply actions
Re: Withers – I guess welcoming back a coach to the staff qualifies as a comfort hire, no?
Certainly has more of a pedigree than Austin. Several years as a DC in different conferences.
Any feel for how he’s done at UNC? Scheme overview? They looked decent against LSU givne that half of their roster was sitting out, but I didn’t watch them otherwise.
by Levander Williams on Dec 13, 2010 6:15 PM CST reply actions
Teryl Austin’s 2009 Cardinals’ defense in the playoffs:
51-45 win over Green Bay. Highest scoring playoff game in NFL history. Rodgers passed for 28 of 42 for 423 yards and 4 TD’s. Nice performance by his DB’s.
14-45 loss to the Saints. Brees was 23 of 32 for 247 yards and 3 TD’s. Big early lead (21-7 after 1st, 35-14 at half) allowed NO to run for 171 yards.
And of course we all remember VY driving the Titans 99 yards in the final 2:37 against Austin’s DB’s in the regular season.
by Hmmm on Dec 13, 2010 6:21 PM CST reply actions
My sources tell me Gary Darnell is open.
by The Master Cylinder on Dec 13, 2010 6:28 PM CST reply actions
A Barking Carnival tote bag to anyone who names one candidate who has run a defense that hasn’t ever had a bad game, every didn’t have his strategies questioned, or doesn’t have some black mark.
by Davey O'Brien on Dec 13, 2010 6:33 PM CST reply actions
BTW, I come up with 13 years as a college coach for T Austin, same as with Withers.
1 as DC at UF
10 as Secondary Coach at Mich, Syr, and WakeF
2 as ? at Penn State 1991-92
by Hmmm on Dec 13, 2010 6:37 PM CST reply actions
A Barking Carnival tote bag to anyone who names one candidate who has run a defense that hasn’t ever had a bad game, every didn’t have his strategies questioned, or doesn’t have some black mark.
Dick Lebeaux?
by t1climb1 on Dec 13, 2010 6:38 PM CST reply actions
Final conclusion…
Seems like nobody knows any info that is credible. Bellmont wins this battle.
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 6:43 PM CST reply actions
Another link with Penn State info for T. Austin:
http://www.arhenetwork.com/profiles/view/3035/Teryl-Austin
Let’s see, I listed 3 memorably bad performances by his DB’s in just a single season where they went 9-7, weren’t considered a great defense, and were known primarily as a team carried on the back of a Hall of Fame QB that otherwise would have collapsed. Closer to a pattern than the occasional bad game, and there are more games in the Cards’ 2009 season that confirm the pattern. Not saying he shouldn’t be hired, but some of the history is disconcerting.
by Hmmm on Dec 13, 2010 6:46 PM CST reply actions
So as a position coach, he had years where his DBs struggled in the NFL? Arizona has always been known for it’s dominating defenses.
What an indictment.
Now share Bill Belicheck’s record in Cleveland. Or the Patriot’s defensive ranking last year.
Let’s limit the inferential thinking a little.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 13, 2010 6:50 PM CST reply actions
There’s a report on 247 that Withers agent saying he’s not going to Texas.
Also, looks like there will be a PC tomorrow.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 6:52 PM CST reply actions
A PC tomorrow and no one can even confirm that anyone has actually spoken to anyone?
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 6:56 PM CST reply actions
I’m with Blueshorn on this. With the jumps on info, jacking up Mack and Belmont’s timelines. The best thing to do is feed subtle and not so subtle misinformation.
This feels like it with Bevo Beat going 2 sources deep on it. Sorry but when Bobby Burton is mentioned……I’m skeptical, mainly because this is what I would advise them to do.
Put crap out there to a few and see if it breaks…..busted.
That job description makes no sense since everyone in the country knows we need a DC now. 6 years NFL, 7, no years NFL…….wreaks of “eat this”.
There is no logical reason to that number except to throw over analytical people off track and put a specific tag on the misinformation. I might be wrong, but I’m a cynic.
by Saltshaker on Dec 13, 2010 7:01 PM CST reply actions
Seems like a lot of Teryl Austin’s NFL years:
AZ Cardinals passing defense:
2009 – 23rd of 32
2008 – 22nd
2007 – 28th
Seattle passing defense:
2006 – 16th
2005 – 25th
2004 – 23rd
2003 – 27th
by Hmmm on Dec 13, 2010 7:03 PM CST reply actions
Should not believe any info that has HCIW in content. That is not going to happen.
HINT-Remember the NCAA restrictions placed on UT and Maryland on recruiting as a HC title.
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 7:04 PM CST reply actions
tclilmb,
Last time I checked Lebeaux wasn’t available.
by Davey O'Brien on Dec 13, 2010 7:05 PM CST reply actions
Why would they give us their resume in the job description? Why not just say that we found our guy and we’re going to have a press conference on this date? I think no one knows jack crap. If they had their guy they would of announced it by now and if they didn’t they definately wouldn’t set the job description for a particular person. I think they have no idea what to do at this point. Why not just pick Shannon and move on to OC. We need a good lb coach because of the fantastic group of lb recruits. We can kill two birds with one stone.
by Lonestarcoug on Dec 13, 2010 7:08 PM CST reply actions
@ Davey O’Brien
Horns for Pink told me Lebeaux would come here and be our LB coach as long as we gave him a Co-DC title.
by t1climb1 on Dec 13, 2010 7:09 PM CST reply actions
Never mind I was thinking of someone else.
by Lonestarcoug on Dec 13, 2010 7:14 PM CST reply actions
I thought the job posting was a prank. Seven years of NFL experience, who comes up with this shit?
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 7:23 PM CST reply actions
They’re just screwing with us. They definately have thrown so many names out to the different boards that they now have no clue either. In other words we are on MB’s time table.
by Lonestarcoug on Dec 13, 2010 7:29 PM CST reply actions
Bianco said there would be no presser today, but there could be tomorrow.
We need to make fucking hire already, so it needs to be tomorrow. Dead period starts this weekend.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 7:33 PM CST reply actions
“Despite the fact that you are a Mexican you are kind normal.”
by Newy25 on Dec 13, 2010 7:38 PM CST reply actions
SizzleChest
Thanks… I am with you on the urgency of an annoucement. I am staying positive and I truly believe that overall we will have an outstanding staff. I will lose hope if nothing is accomplished by Wednesday.(The latest)
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 7:40 PM CST reply actions
I don’t know much about all of this, but from what I’ve read so far, if we hire this guy and not Shannon, I’ll be very disappointed.
by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Dec 13, 2010 7:44 PM CST reply actions
Shannon needs to be the DC. If MB f***s this up too, then we need to firs Dodds for allowing it to happen.
by billw on Dec 13, 2010 7:49 PM CST reply actions
Randy Shannon is our guy.
All that job description is written by human resource person who is looking to fill a posting with checkmarks. It is a guideline. We will hire the right person for the job not the best person that fits a list of search criteria someone created.
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 7:50 PM CST reply actions
Hmmm ~ “2 as ? at Penn State 1991-92”
Those were his 2 seasons as a graduate assistant! I didn’t know those actually counted as Div.1 time.
The good news is that Urban Meyer has a long history of finding the diamond in rough. However, one single season as a DC doesn’t make for a wow(!) hire. I guess we’ll see….
by BevosBoss on Dec 13, 2010 7:55 PM CST reply actions
Applewhite’s job hire requirements were written using his resume as a crib sheet.
These things are written with specific intent. Not by some mindless HR drone.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 13, 2010 8:10 PM CST reply actions
So your saying the job posting indicates that it’s either UNC or Florida, not Shannon?
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 8:19 PM CST reply actions
Looking at the job requirements it clearlly states
Preferred requirements… That does not translate to minimum requirements.
Albeit, it does read like Austin resume.
I hope it is Randy Shannon. Turn down the Kentucky position and Vandy or Minnesota positions are doom coaching areas. I think (hope) he is locked into Texas.
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 8:27 PM CST reply actions
Shit fell through with Shannon.
Teryl Austin is Afrrican-American.
Just saying.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 8:36 PM CST reply actions
How could shit fall through with Shannon? He has no leverage, he’s probably begging for an offer.
How does that get fucked up?
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 8:43 PM CST reply actions
Mack Brown is a moron. He has a blank check and this is the guy he wants to hire? Seriously?
As each moment passes its getting more clear that Mack Brown is not the guy to lead Texas football any longer.
by Texas on Dec 13, 2010 8:59 PM CST reply actions
mad clapper,
who the fuck knows. If Shannon was the guy, logic says it would have been announced today.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 9:03 PM CST reply actions
Did someone consciously decide that we had to have a black DC? I had thought we were going after Shannon because he has a good reputation and the biggest name.
by bigdukesix on Dec 13, 2010 9:07 PM CST reply actions
Getting excited about Shannon and ending up with Austin would be like getting warmed up with Kate Beckingsale and waking up with Molly Shannon.
In other words, my anticipated Friday.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 13, 2010 9:10 PM CST reply actions
SIzzle, logic left the building when Rice stuffed us at the goal line on our first drive of the season.
by uthookem on Dec 13, 2010 9:12 PM CST reply actions
Is someone playing the race card?? We need the right person. Race does not play a role. Randy Shannon is the best DC on the market. Does not matter what his race is… If that was the case we should all spanish coaches for the soccer teams.
On a more non BS subject… 247 has a report on Chad Morris. What a joke. This guy has not been college football long enough to earn a new shoes. Not to mention NFL. This shows how one can ruin any credibility with such articles. Stick with credible articles.
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 9:14 PM CST reply actions
No more BS.. give us RS (Randy Shannon). A DC that we can be proud to have on staff. He is a proven performer, recruiter, etihical, etc…
Lets hope the news becomes more clear tomorrow. Adios.
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 9:19 PM CST reply actions
Scout saying both, with Austin being the DC. Seems a little backwards.
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions
Shannon could be an assistant HC. We all know how Mack loves those titles.
by Rich on Dec 13, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions
That definitely would seem backwards. Austin, the coach, is beneath Texas, just as he should have been beneath Florida.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 13, 2010 9:30 PM CST reply actions
I am afraid that Akina is bailing and has just been holding serve until Mack gets a new staff in place. For as much as I worried about Applewhite leaving, Akina seemed to be the name a lot of recruits were mentioning as key to feeling good about staying with UT.
If Akina leaves that is an even greater indictment of Mack than Applewhite leaving. Akina has been a good soldier for a long time and his failure as a DC seems to have sealed his long term fate. He won’t be going to UF for a big pay raise unless Mack decided not to match. Akina’s departure would really signal the depths of what Mack has wrought.
by Ricky on Dec 13, 2010 9:42 PM CST reply actions
so we hire Kriss (DC and DBs) Kross (LB, Asst HC) (no racism, bro), OG gets the full D-line and Akina the STs, with OG and Duane getting nice salary bumps. Does that sound right to any of you?
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 9:43 PM CST reply actions
Sizzle — I’m close to your thoughts:
Giles gets DL and mo money
Akina is CBs and Special Teams and mo money
Shannon is Co-DC/LB
Austin is Co-DC/Safeties
by ultralight on Dec 13, 2010 9:53 PM CST reply actions
No way Akina sticks if both come. Anyone think Applewhite is probably 2nd or 3rd on Will’s list, and Major is waiting to see if his name comes up?
by Mad Clapper on Dec 13, 2010 9:55 PM CST reply actions
Yep, the money pie got bigger per JS’s source with BOR, so it looks like all of this is feasible money-wise.
Football-wise, I’m skeptical as fuck.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 9:56 PM CST reply actions
Clapper, I don’t see Akina moving on right now and a nice bump and adjusted role might be good for him.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 9:58 PM CST reply actions
If Mack screws up these hires, would that be so surprising? Actually, it would be freaking amazing if he gets it right.
by utexex on Dec 13, 2010 10:03 PM CST reply actions
Mad Clapper and SizzleChest
always have good dialog. kudos.
Now that WM is gone that opens up 900k annual from the pay roll budget. It will take another 400-500k to get another DC.
by striker on Dec 13, 2010 10:04 PM CST reply actions
For the record, I was confused by this post:
Shit fell through with Shannon.
Teryl Austin is Afrrican-American.
Just saying.
Not sure what sizzlechest was saying there.
by bigdukesix on Dec 13, 2010 10:26 PM CST reply actions
Major staying at UT per Gainesville paper.
by SizzleChest on Dec 13, 2010 10:36 PM CST reply actions
I’m still pretty raw emotionally over all of this, but I could be made to feel better by the following:
Defense: Shannon, Austin, Giles, Akina
Offense: Harsin, Bostad, Applewhite, Brewster
I can has?
by Homesick Alien on Dec 13, 2010 11:58 PM CST reply actions
Defense: Shannon, Austin, Giles, Akina
Offense: Harsin, Bostad, Applewhite, Brewster
Yeah, I could live with that….
by Orange Marrow on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM CST reply actions
The longer this plays out the more likely it looks to me that we’re getting both. If that’s the case then I’m going to be pleased as hell. Not that Mack Brown really gives a flying fuck, but it’s still impressive considering where I was Saturday night after the Muschamp announcement.
Now if Mack can keep Applewhite and bring in some more hungry, young stud position coaches I’m going to be genuinely excited. If my choices are getting Harsin or keeping Major I’ll stick with Major. If Brown somehow gets both of those with everything else? Well, now we’re just dreaming.
by flamingmonkeyass on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM CST reply actions
Football scoop says Shannon has not been contacted by MB.
by Manos - Hands Of Fate on Dec 14, 2010 8:06 AM CST reply actions
So does this mean our coaching staff will start to read like this as well:
Defensive Coordinator: Teryl Austin OR Randy Shannon
by hg03 on Dec 14, 2010 8:17 AM CST reply actions
hg,
Neither has “shed a lot of blood” for the program, so they will be placed third behind Plonsky.
by Manos - Hands Of Fate on Dec 14, 2010 8:36 AM CST reply actions
According to the job posting, Mack is apparently not qualified to be the DC at Texas.
by HR generalist on Dec 14, 2010 9:06 AM CST reply actions
IF true then this is certainly good news.
It’s insane though that more than a week after losing our OC and 2 other coaches, and 3 days after losing our DC and HCIW a report that we might actually hang on to a coach is the biggest thing we’ve had to hang our hat on.
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Dec 14, 2010 9:52 AM CST reply actions
One can dream. Lets hope
Shannon and Austin in Co-Def. This would be nice given the history of UT DC. Every 2 years the UT DC gets a HC position. This would ease the pain as history repeats itself and Shannon or Austin get a HC position in the future the other C0-DC would be the DC.
Same for offense. However, I truly believe applewhite has so much potential he just needs a few more years of experience. Having someone other than Greg Davis would be advantageous as it would diversify his offense background. Again a Co-OC for 2-3 years would set him up to be OC.
This would be in perfect timing because in 2-3 years MB will retire and the program is stable as he turns the reigns.
by striker on Dec 14, 2010 10:21 AM CST reply actions
“This would be in perfect timing because in 2-3 years MB will retire and the program is stable as he turns the reigns.”
That’s not what he told the recruits who had lunch at his home this past weekend. Not to say he may change his mind as the next 2-3 seasons unfold, but he told them in no uncertain terms he was planning on being around much longer than this.
by Hooked on Dec 14, 2010 10:28 AM CST reply actions
Haha, it’s going to be Austin. The audacity of Mack Brown.
by Mad Clapper on Dec 14, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions
Gotta love the “trust Mack Brown” crew if this true. Mack may officially be off his rocker.
by jttexas05 on Dec 14, 2010 11:30 AM CST reply actions
people, greg davis is gone, muschamp though great was not manageable unless mack retired. we can have a net upgrade here, and most likely will. this is good. remember, greg davis is GONE.
by tropheus on Dec 14, 2010 11:42 AM CST reply actions
No solid updates from anyone. We really are not concerned about bowl games nor the set up WM has in Florida. Anxious to hear about the new hires at UT. Only thing about WM is I bet he is glad he did not take the Tennesse position.
by striker on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 PM CST reply actions
News UPDATE
Dana Holgorson is being named OC at West Virginia. It is expected that current HC will retire at 2011 leaving Holgorson as the new HC after next season. He will do well at West Virginia. Glad he is not going to Florida, OU or etc.
by striker on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 PM CST reply actions
Now making the rounds that Austin is coming to Austin…….After reviewing some things and getting opinions from Florida folks, he did a very ‘meh’ job last year…..pretty much like Muschamp……No track record really as a recruiter….
by Patrick Bateman on Dec 14, 2010 2:02 PM CST reply actions
Finally… Will be great to have someone coming to Texas. I prefer Shannon b/c of his reputation. However, Austin my be pleasant surprise. He does have a solid resume. Would be icing on the cake if Shannon were to be hired too.
BON has a good write up on T Austin.
by striker on Dec 14, 2010 2:29 PM CST reply actions
Am I the only one that finds the fact that the DC (and any other football coach position I guess) must be posted thru the university HR department is just ludicrous? No wonder this fucking football program is in the toilet and laughing stock of the nation.
by Earl Campbell's Right Thigh on Dec 14, 2010 4:30 PM CST reply actions
Yes, this program is a laughing stock because jobs must be posted as they are at every other university. Please return. You’re adding value.
by Scipio Tex on Dec 14, 2010 4:33 PM CST reply actions
Scip – you must be eatin goobers, and believing every word out of MackDodds mouth. But let’s say you are right, and every university posts every coaching job. Why the fuck are we having to wait til Friday for the lardass regents to get together and give their blessing for a hire, as if they have specific knowledge as to whether a particular candidate will be able to properly motivate his young charges. ? Geez, the OC job just got posted today? That job’s only been vacant more than a week. I guess Sally in HR has been off work due to her not feeling well when her monthly mother nature arrived, so the whole fucking football program just shuts down and twiddles it’s thumbs until Sally gets her iron up. I’m telling you, we’re gettin left at the fucking alter boys, but you’re just to dumb to know it. Fuck, maybe the UConn OC will be available.
by Earl's Right Thigh on Dec 14, 2010 11:29 PM CST reply actions

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