Cuban Missile Crisis
Mark Cuban has gotten over losing the Rangers to The Express and will instead turn his ICBMs at Roy Kramer's Frankenstein, the BCS.
"The more I think about it, the more sense it makes as opposed to buying a baseball team," Cuban said. "You can do something the whole country wants done."
Certainly, Mark is known to a be a bit dramatic at times and has more than a dash of PT Barnum in him but he seems semi-serious and you have to like anybody going George Hayduke on this silly system. BrickHorn has promised to be along soon with his anti-playoff screed and in the meantime, you can read a lone voice in the BCS wilderness.
From the ESPN.com article.
"Put $500 million in the bank and go to all the schools and pay them money as an option," Cuban said. "Say, 'Look, I'm going to give you X amount every five years. In exchange, you say if you're picked for the playoff system, you'll go.' "
One way to push school presidents toward approving the idea would be to lobby major donors of college athletic programs, Cuban said. He suggested convincing the donors to cut off their donations until their presidents approved a playoff system.
What are Tex Moncrief's thoughts on a playoff?
"It's an inefficient business where there's obviously a better way of doing it," Cuban said. "The only thing that's kept them from doing it is a lack of capital, which I can deal with. The one thing every college football fan wants you can probably create for less than it takes to buy a baseball team."
I do think Mark is naive here but he'll be brought up to speed quickly. A lack of capital clearly isn't the issue. A stranglehold on the IP by Jim Delany is really the issue. Even Jim Delany has admitted there is a shitton more money to be made with a playoff. However, as more universities struggle with funding, Title 9, etc., they are going to become desperate for cash so this sort of thing making news can only help. At any rate, welcome to the war.
Dan Shanoff says the SEC could just blow it up themselves. Roy Kramer would be very confused. Or not.
As we start what is probably the most craptacular bowl season I can remember, I can't help but think how much fun it would be to see the best teams playing meaningful games through the month.
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A stranglehold on the IP by Jim Delany is really the issue.
IP?
by t1climb1 on Dec 16, 2010 12:07 PM CST reply actions
Read the thread title and thought Cuban was now endorsing cialis.
by HenryJames on Dec 16, 2010 12:12 PM CST reply actions
I know I am less interested because we are not playing in a bowl game, but I have not been this bored at the thought of bowl season… ever? The NC looks like it will be good. I will enjoy A&M vs LSU just because I know so many people from each school. Other than that, I’m not sure I’ll watch much. Usually I’m dying for bowl season to start. I even went to Rice’s bowl game 2 years ago! But I can’t get excited about this year.
by ut-06 on Dec 16, 2010 12:19 PM CST reply actions
So I read that Dan Shanoff article and I think the technical description of it would be “asinine.”
Is he really saying that a playoff between 8 SEC teams would command $1 billion dollars? Seriously? Does he really think the west coast, the midwest, and the upper east coast would care that much about a bunch of games between Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, and Mississippi State?
Don’t they already have that playoff? I think it’s called “Conference Play” and I think ESPN already pays for that.
Look I think the SEC is a good football league too but this is getting stupid. Go Ducks!
by bob on Dec 16, 2010 12:41 PM CST reply actions
I loved Norm Hitzges’ plan for a playoff and it would work. Posted below:
Premise: The entire regular football season would end the weekend of December 3-4. There would then be two weeks off. The first round would be played 17th,18,19. Then the quarterfinals would be December 31 and Jan 1.The semi finals would be Jan 15th. The Championship game played between the off week of NFL conference championship games and Super Bowl (Jan 29). The major bowls (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta) would be on a 4 year rotation of the championship game, 2 semis, and 1 quarterfinal game. Why two weeks off in between? Travel for the alums. If the first games were played December 17ish then you would create a 13 day window to work in the other bowl games. Creating a situation where you could have a bowl game a day if you like. In the first round we take 1 vs 16 and 2 vs 15 etc using the AP poll. Given the bowl match ups, we have chosen a game site that is an advantage to the higher seeded team. The second round bowls would be Cotton, Sugar, Capital One, and Holliday.
Gator Bowl-Jacksonville, FL
1 Auburn
16Oklahoma St
Sun Bowl-El Paso, TX
2 Oregon
15 Alabama
Alamo Bowl-San Antonio, TX
3 TCU
14 Missouri
Liberty Bowl-Memphis, TN
4 Wisconsin
10 Nevada
Insight Bowl-Tempe, AZ
5 Stanford
12 Virginia Tech
Chick-fil-a Bowl-Atlanta, Georgia
6 Ohio State
11 LSU
Outback Bowl-Tamp, FL
7 Michigan St
10 Boise St
Champs Sports Bowl-Orlando, FL
8 OU
9 Arkansas
by maninblack on Dec 16, 2010 12:52 PM CST reply actions
Mark Cuban is a tackier, more soulless version of Donald Trump. NYC : Dallas :: Trump : Cuban.
If ever Mark Cuban were to endorse a belief I held, I would immediately question the wisdom of said belief. That he advocates a playoff only further cements my view that anyone desiring a college football playoff is a shallow, superficial shell-of-a-human-being who longs to replace every remaining bit of uniqueness, character and tradition with cheaply-veneered generica.
…except you, of course, Sailor.
by BrickHorn on Dec 16, 2010 12:53 PM CST reply actions
Mark Cuban is actually a very smart guy. And he sees this as PR and potentially good business.
by Sailor Ripley on Dec 16, 2010 1:01 PM CST reply actions
Awesome line of reasoning Brick.
“I don’t like ‘im, so if he’s fer it I’m agin it!”
by t1climb1 on Dec 16, 2010 1:05 PM CST reply actions
Usually I hate Mark Cuban, though I respect his business acumen. But my emotional investment in a college football playoff is such that if some guy claiming to be Superman said he could create a bowl system by pissing on the BCS, I’d say “great!” I’d even hold his dick for him. So Cuban, have at it.
by TexanNick on Dec 16, 2010 1:11 PM CST reply actions
Incorporating the bowls into a playoff is monumentally asinine. Home field or bust.
by Drew on Dec 16, 2010 1:13 PM CST reply actions
We are for anything that increases cash flow to UT Austin and cannot support anything that threatens that cash flow. Show us the money.
- UT BOR
by 50 Years Watching on Dec 16, 2010 1:15 PM CST reply actions
“That he advocates a playoff only further cements my view that anyone desiring a college football playoff is a shallow, superficial shell-of-a-human-being who longs to replace every remaining bit of uniqueness, character and tradition with cheaply-veneered generica.”
Well-said. Now, if you excuse me, I have to set my DVR to record the Maaco Bowl, ChickFilA Bowl, BBVA Compass Bowl & the Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl.
by Eskimohorn on Dec 16, 2010 1:16 PM CST reply actions
I have zero use for anybody who has no use for a playoff system in 1A. If you’re content to watch an endless parade of pathetic, meaningless bowls between mediocre to crappy teams where the stands are often little more than half full and the only reward is some cheesy tin trophy, then have at it. I want a real national champion, decided on the field and not by some idiotic computers and formulas.
And the tired reasoning that a playoff system “cheapens” the regular season is the ignorant raving of fools. Crappy regular season = no playoffs. So yeah, there would be a little incentive there not to shit the bed.
I’m not the biggest Cuban fan around — although I do give him major kudos for resurrecting one of the worst pro sports franchises of the ‘90s and pouring in the resources to make them into a perennial playoff team/occasional title contender. But I’m all for anything that advances the playoff cause.
by burnt orange outrage on Dec 16, 2010 1:24 PM CST reply actions
Eskimo – I laughed. Well played.
t1climb1 – You’re right. I was a huge fan of the playoff until Mark Cuban announced his position on the matter.
by BrickHorn on Dec 16, 2010 1:25 PM CST reply actions
“But my emotional investment in a college football playoff is such that if some guy claiming to be Superman said he could create a bowl system by pissing on the BCS, I’d say "great!" I’d even hold his dick for him.”
Not sure I’d have said it exactly like that TexanNick, but hear hear!
by JoeT63 on Dec 16, 2010 1:32 PM CST reply actions
I sat by Mark Cuban this morning. We sang “This Little Light of Mine” together.
by Robin Herman on Dec 16, 2010 1:33 PM CST reply actions
I think Cuban is a d-bag, but he is a pretty good owner. I would have been happy to see him buy the Astros, but since he has said that he has no interest in that, I really don’t give a wet fart about his thoughts on anything.
by loopingstarship on Dec 16, 2010 1:53 PM CST reply actions
I’m all for a playoff, though I have a distinct feeling if they do institute it they’ll screw that up as well (i.e. 8 team playoff with max of 1 team per conference and a Notre Dame rule instead of just top 8 teams period). Even so, anything involving more than two teams would have to be at least a slight improvement.
I think it should be top # of teams no matter what with no exceptions (yes would still have to have a BCS type poll, but arguing between 8&9 or 12&13 or 16&17 is better than between 2&3). To make this work, you’d then pay out money equivalent of getting 1 team in to all conferences, even if they didn’t have a team in it that year to keep them from crying that they’re 8-4 conference champ didn’t make it into the playoff.
by tdwalsh on Dec 16, 2010 1:56 PM CST reply actions
I meant “their 8-4” there. Thought I’d correct before they’re (grammar police) all over me.
by tdwalsh on Dec 16, 2010 1:59 PM CST reply actions
Brick,
I know you have been consistent in your opposition, I was just having fun picturing you as a cantankerous old hillbilly with a dip of snuff and a straw hat. You and I will never agree on this.
That makes 2 times though that you have recently posted a rant against a playoff without any logical argument to support your position. I know you are just having fun, but I thought you were supposed to write an entry for BC with all your actual objections. I’m still waiting to read that. Sailor, give the man the floor and stand back while the masses fillet him!
by t1climb1 on Dec 16, 2010 2:54 PM CST reply actions
We are for anything that increases cash flow to UT Austin and cannot support anything that threatens that cash flow. Show us the money.
I always have said that D-I will not leave the bowls unless and until they can be absolutely guaranteed that they will make so much money from a playoff that they will never, ever, ever have to go back to the bowls, hat in hand.
I since have realized that it’s not about the money, but rather control of the money.
Plus, college presidents don’t want to be seen as money-grubbers, even though they are. Grubbing money from a non-academic activity is particularly galling. Better the system they control than one they don’t that clearly speaks to the priority.
by Bob in Houston on Dec 16, 2010 3:07 PM CST reply actions
Anyone can nit pick a playoff to death but it’s a better system for determining a champion than the BCS. If the current structure was the optimal system for determining a championing then why is no other sport on the GLOBE using it?
I don’t care how it gets done but get a playoff in college football.
by maninblack on Dec 16, 2010 3:08 PM CST reply actions
If the current structure was the optimal system for determining a championing then why is no other sport on the GLOBE using it?
You’re doing it wrong.
by BrickHorn on Dec 16, 2010 3:20 PM CST reply actions
Had a long talk with HenryJames’ agent yesterday. We’re cautiously optimistic that he will be returning his talents to the blogosphere.
by Sailor Ripley on Dec 16, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions
Sailor – Can we get a Henry James “decision” style live podcast to learn the results?
by Egonz on Dec 16, 2010 8:26 PM CST reply actions
HenryJames doesn’t speak. He only writes.
by Sailor Ripley on Dec 17, 2010 9:04 AM CST reply actions
“I since have realized that it’s not about the money, but rather control of the money.”
Bingo.
This is the single most important roadblock to having a playoff, because the BCS commissioners, school presidents, AD’s, and even bowl executives agree that a playoff would bring in loads more money.
Also, can we please stop the idea of trying to fit the bowls into a playoff? We can have the playoffs and keep the bowl system around too.
Is it really that big of a deal if the Rose Bowl pits Alabama vs. Oklahoma State instead of TCU vs. Wisconsin? Neither game has any effect on determining a champion, and the Rose Bowl has said they’ll be just fine if a playoff is instituted.
I just think it’s silly to have a team “win” the Gator and Cotton bowl in one year, and then lose in the semi-finals. “We won the Gator and Cotton, and played in the Sugar bowl!” Dumb.
The playoff games have to be played on campus. It makes sense from every possible angle, the games will ALWAYS sell out, there are no major travel issues, it will make universities a crap load more of money, and it is just flat out better to have a game rocking at Texas instead of at some neutral field.
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