Rule 9-2-1d

Since I didn’t see how the game ended exactly how did the penalty impact the end of the game?

Shitty call but I thought it was funny. I had Cuse in my bowl pool and I’m not one to root for Big 12 teams because they all hate us anyway.

They had to make the 2pt to force OT. The penalty made the attempt from the 17. Big call.

Thanks SH, I thought it was something like that but didn’t really have an interest to watch the game. Great showing by the Big XII this bowl season.

I do think the rule has gone over the top. Doesn’t the very effort by the receiver on the play call individual attention to himself and I think the salute was as natural a response as the run after the catch.

Saw the exact same thing by Tennessee player on their first touchdown, no call. This stuff is really horse shit. How can you make that call at the end of a bowl game and effectively end a team’s chance at the two point conversion, and not call it when it doesn’t matter? I know it’s two different crews but it’s ridiculous. The Tennessee QB, Bray, did it too while running down the field, and no call.

That was a stupid call. What a disgrace to college football.

I don’t see anything about what the WR did that was “delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed.”

KSU was robbed. No question about it.

Snyder addressed this calmly, like a preacher or actuary.

Pelini would have exploded like a mushroom cloud of blood.

Stupid rule, poorly written. The focus is wrong.
It should not be on what the player does. It should be on whether the action delays the game.
This did not in any way delay the game.
Let the coaches decide how they want their players to act.
Classy coaches will demand class behavior.
Coaches will show their own asses by what they allow.
NCAA is trying to be nanny.
Just more bullshit from the organization that wouldn’t know its ass from its face.

Terrible call by the refs and enjoyed seeing it happen to KState.

That was a bullshit call. I hope that ref dies in a fire.

The Big 12 looks strong.

I thought Justin Blackmon should have been flagged last night at the Alamo Bowl for his running from right to left on the 1-yard line before going in. It fit the “delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed” definition a helluva lot better than what the KSU receiver did today.

@srr50 – I hated that too. I didn’t want a penalty, I wanted a kid to come off the bench and put him on his @ss.

That was one of those “act like you’ve been there before” moments IMO.

Kevin Durant does the exact same salute….. in order to honor the troops

The antics after Tennessee’s first touchdown tonight reminded me of Marion Barber’s celebration after a first down. The refs didn’t give it so much as a second glance.

In other news, the Huskies just beat the Cornhuskers. As a fan and alum of both UW and Texas, I really enjoyed that win.

Big 10 officiating crew, for what it’s worth. Agreed, Lurker. Just more NCAA-mandated BS that shifts the focus from the players to the governing(?) body. It’s a bowl game, for God sake. Just a terrible call that really ruined what might have been a great finish to an otherwise “Who Cares?” bowl game.

So what if a kid takes a knee and makes the sign of the cross? Penalty? Lawsuit?

attention, big ten shoppers: all sales are final.

It’s not the rule that bothers me, it’s the selective/arbitrary/inconsistent enforcement. Watch all 200 bowl games and see if there is any consistency in the calls. Won’t happen. It’s a shaky rule. All the same, the refs have a clear argument for it, so it’s on K-state.

Players get up after every tackle and make some kind of sign or motion. In the Tenn – UNC game there were literally 25 gestures that were far worse than a salute.

The referees obviously don’t understand the rule. They may be able to quote it, but it is ambiguous enough, as evidenced by the two bowl games in a side-by-side comparison, to show the differences in interpretation.

I like the rule to get back to better sportsmanship. Play hard, but not dirty. Express happiness and celebrate accomplishments, but don’t try to show up your opponent. Competition is about respect and being better, not making the other player look stupid or feel bad. The running cross ways instead of going in the end zone should be one of the penalties that takes the points off the board. Same with unneccessary diving or flipping into the end zone, orhigh stepping crap. I have taught my kids this is poor form and has no room in the game and I don’t appreciate someof the bozo’s that do it at the college and pro levels not the coaches, officials or even worse, the media dogs that glorify this type of behavior. When Desmond Howard was allowed to strike that pose, it was a bad start of things to come.

Refs make a huge call against Kansas State in a bowl game in New York against Syracuse….

Conspiracy anyone?

Nebraska losing to a 6-6 team made my New Year.

Might be a conspiracy or just the fact that the Big XII just isn’t very good as a conference.

Watching Nebraska last night I kept getting this Arkansas deja vu feeling with the Huskers going to the Big 10. That team is a long way from being good in a competitive conference with that offense.

Not to mention Pelini is going to do something int he next 2-3 years that forces Nebraska to fire him. He is a ticking time bomb.

To me it’s pretty simple. Act like you’ve been there before, go straight to the nearest official and hand him the ball.

It’s not rocket science. It’s coaching.

Officiating in CFB has become a sham. The worst was the Justin Blackmon showboat shit. Did anyone notice if Gundy called him out during the game. Someone else mentioned it, the lOSUr State team and staff definitley showed ‘they have never been THERE’. Here is to hoping they never get ‘THERE’.

Why is a bowl game being played on a frozen ground? Put any two average teams on an ice and it is entertainment. Should not play bowl games in areas of the country that are prone to poor weather.

I don’t think Gundy called him out, but at the beginning of the 3rd quarter, an Arizona defender laid his ass out away from the ball.

Craig James called it a cheapshot. I called it justice. Fastball to the ribs on the plate appearance after you showboated.

I’m a fan of showboating. The K State guy didn’t showboat. Tremendously bad call. I was hoping that it’d come out that the K State guy’s dad was in Iraq and he was saluting his mom in the crowd. Then wouldn’t those refs feel dumb.

This isn’t the No Fun League, it’s college football where a kid can be a kid. Let them dance, sing, salute, and act the fool.

For those that are opposed to running perpendicular to the endzone line, how in the world can that be made illegal? It should be a legitimate strategy for running time off the clock.

If a player on a long return ending a game wanted to make sure to use up the remaining time and prevent the other team from having a final possession should that be flagged as unsportsmanlike? There would be no difference between that and intentionally using up the game clock.

In general the enforcement of this rule is horrendous but the rules being what they are you can either take a principled stand and risk getting hit with game changing penalties or you can play it safe. No one needs to make any gestures after scoring. Were this guy legitimately trying to salute the troops there are dozens of other ways he could have done it and avoided penalization.

Nickel, I think we know the difference when we see it. DeSean Jackson did it against the Giants on the last play of the game after the clock ran out. Blackmon did it, I believe, in the first quarter. Give a kid benefit of the doubt when there is benefit to be given.

so what about quan cosby’s kneel down after every touchdown. was that not called because it is a religious observance? I think they should do a choreographed hari krishna dance as that could not be called right?

Still a horsesh*t call from the two oafs who threw the flags. What made it even more pitiful was the following UNC/Tenn game and the salutes and gestures made by both teams.

Has anyone else mentioned that both games were officiated by Big 10 crews? So much for the "These kinds of excessive celebrations have been a priority in the rulebook for the last several years. There’s a whole page in the rulebook pertaining to sportsmanship" comment. I guess that page got left out of the rulebook some of the Big 10 officials use.

What do you expect when you give Barbey Fife a zebra shirt and whistle?