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The Draft:

I noticed that Todd McShay had Dareus as the best player in the draft and there have been some evaluations and Sports "science" stuff to indicate that he's a better prospect than Ndamukong Suh. Anyone remember when I lambasted McShay for grading Gerald McCoy above Suh? If you thought I was above bringing this up again you are mistaken...

In their rookie seasons:

McCoy had 22 tackles, 3 sacks, 9 tackles for loss, and forced 2 fumbles. Very strong showing, he was definitely a worthy first round selection. We all witnessed what he did to Texas in 09, we never doubted he was a talent.

Suh had 66 tackles, 10 sacks, 15 tackles for loss, and 1 forced fumble.

Whatever McShay may think, Dareus will not be better than Suh either, the House of Spears was a once in a generation talent. This generation's Warren Sapp, since Haynesworth doesn't give a crap. The Lion's decision to go ahead and add another dominant defensive tackle to the mix must be terrifying the rest of the NFC.

Everyone else on the defense merely needs to be competent and in the right place when you have 2 defensive tackles who command double teams. As it happens, they have Avril and Vanden Bosch at defensive end and a very strong nose tackle in Corey Williams already. They could easily move Suh to nosetackle in passing situations and play Fairley at 3-tech, it's a loaded defensive line with a lot of options. Terrible group to gameplan against.

As far our crew, Sam Acho's treatment by the public evaluators is pretty puzzling to me. No upside? Questionable in space? Limited explosion as a pass-rusher? Not strong enough against the run?

The dude played defensive tackle on passing downs, logged 8 sacks for 2 consecutive seasons doing it, and set a record in the cone drill. If I were a 3-4 team I would be all over Acho as a SOLB or even WOLB. You know he can handle your schemes mentally, his energy level and effort is outstanding, and his production in college was very good. Again, the fact that he was a strong edge rusher AND someone counted on to get interior pass-rush as a tackle should say everything to zone-blitzing 3-4 teams. I could even see him as an inside backer.

Curtis Brown and Aaron Williams were treated fairly well, if teams don't see the value in having a guy like Aaron Williams who is physical against the run and strong in coverage than I'm not sure what lessons they were drawing from the Green Bay defense last year in their use of Woodson. Perhaps they didn't learn any lessons.

The truest lesson of last year's Green Bay defense is to find 2 or 3 blue chippers who can dominate multiple facets of the game and then surround them with competent guys who can follow assignments.

This is the 2nd consecutive year without a first round pick from Texas, but you can reasonably expect the notion of Texas as a breeding ground for soft, moody players to disappear with the success by Colt, Shipley, Acho, Houston, etc.

It will be phenomenal news for the 2011 season if we have someone rated as a first-round pick in the next draft because most of our stars are underclassmen. Randall will need to have an explosive season or demonstrate an ability to handle NFL-level double teams to go in the 1st. Keenan Robinson and Emmanuel Acho are definitely NFL prospects but linebackers don't go high unless they are absolute terrors. I think Acho is the more explosive player and he could have a huge year if he's healthy all season but I don't see either of them as a Cushing or Clay Matthews.

David Snow is the other Senior who has produced in the past and while I'm a huge fan, center is another position where you need to be really dominant to warrant first round money.

You can bet that Geoff Ketchum is rooting hard for Tray Allen to have a big season at left tackle and justify his selection as the best player in the state coming out of high school. At least it's likely that he'll start there, since his main competition seems to be injured Greenlea, injured Poehlmann, and Harsin suddenly deciding to break up the awesome interior to stick undersized Hopkins at left tackle.

If Okafor has a big enough year to be a first round pick that's cause for excitement cause it will probably mean he had a monster season. Ditto for Vaccaro, I see potential in both of these guys but I don't expect either to blow up enough to draw a draft grade that would lure them out before their senior seasons.

Gideon's treatment in the draft process will be very interesting as I'm sure he'll be asked by reporters about his chances in the NFL. I can't imagine that his 4.7 (projection) pro day 40 time and junior film would get him anything more than a free agency signing.

NBA Playoffs:

I'm rooting for the Thunder, of course, and I'm excited by the consequences the Perkins trade has had for the squad. As solid a player as Perkins is, the real value of that trade was in ditching the lifeless bodies of Nenad Krstic and Jeff Green. It would be easy to see the post-trade results and say, "Perkins is one of the best centers in the league" but the reality is that he's an average center (in a good way) who is taking minutes formerly held by terrible players.

Serge Ibaka is also seeing increased playing time and looking like the next Dikembe Mutombo. How far he develops offensively will determine the Thunder's ceiling over the next few years. If he continues his defensive excellence and develops more offensive moves than that team should be competing for titles for the next decade, all of the supporting pieces around Durant and Westbrook are very solid.

In the meantime getting past the Grizzlies is more difficult than many of us would have guessed and I expected them to be a tough out. Marc+ZBo and playing inside-out is being affirmed by Memphis' success as the superior means to winning basketball games. Younger Gasol's shooting percentages have been god-like and the fact that teams can't handle Randolph with a single defender combined with ZBo and Marc's passing abilities is a nasty situation to deal with. Add in Allen and Battier's defense and you have a team perfectly designed to defeat the perimeter-oriented teams of the modern game.

I expect the Thunder to get out alive because their team is deeper and I think Perkins and Ibaka can handle the Grizz interior just enough that Durant can make the difference. It's not hard to imagine the Grizz taking any remaining team to 7 games though, if not beating them.

You may all remember I sang the praises of the new Heat lineup last offseason, claiming that DBerri's Wins produced statistical analysis would indicate that a team with Wade and James surrounded by scrubs is going to be very good. Now that we've seen it over a full-season and through 1 1/4 playoff series this view has been affirmed. Either of these players is capable of a single-game explosion that carries a team to victory, containing both of them enough to win 4 games out of 7 is a seriously difficult task and one that Boston is clearly incapable of.

If you were drawing up a blueprint of how to beat the Heat it would be having someone who can defend the basket against penetration, a la Duncan 5 years ago or Howard now, 2 legitimately good perimeter defenders with enough height to play back against the drive and then offer a contest on a jump shot, and then an offense built around a low-post scorer who commands double teams.

Any team that relies on scoring from perimeter players is going to be frustrated and overwhelmed being defended by James and Wade, scoring consistently against the Heat has to be achieved by a guy who can't be defended by these two. The rest of the league can thank God that Bosh isn't a better post defender.

Then, even a team with a dominant low-post player has to deal with Wade and Jame's athletic ability to come help on a double team and still arrive on the perimeter to contest jumpers. It's like dealing with the Bulls when they had Pippen and Jordan, really difficult.

So, teams that match the blueprint? Well, your hated Lakers of course. The challenges of dealing with the mismatches presented by Gasol, Odom, Bynum and Kobe are really too much for any team if the Lakers play intelligently. Fortunately that's a big if, it's hard to keep 4 stars content enough to put in the sacrifice necessary to win championships. Especially when the leader is selfish, blames teammates for losses, and isn't the best player.

Kobe blaming the bench for not getting the ball inside to Gasol and Bynum enough was comically stupid. My friend Ryan pointed out over some Pluckers wings the other night that if Steve Blake and co. got the ball to Gasol every opportunity they had it would barely match the opportunities Kobe has to do the same thing.

If Kobe was a better leader he would take it on upon himself to make sure that what's essential to victory, feeding the forwards, is happening. Usually he does this just enough to get them through but I could easily see him getting sucked into an alpha matchup with Wade and James that thwarts everything the Lakers need to do in order to win. Anyone who doesn't want to see that happen? Well probably yes actually, I'm sure many of you would rather pluck out all your nosehairs than see one of those 2 teams get the title.

Anyone else match the description of teams who could overcome the Heat? Low-post based with strong perimeter defenders? The Memphis Grizzlies present that kind of troublesome matchup, but surviving until the finals would be very difficult for them. The Thunder don't get enough scoring inside and I think Durant and Westbrook would have too much trouble in that matchup to carry the load offensively.

The Mavs are actually intriguingly good since few teams have ever had a great answer for Dirk Nowitzki. Chandler has made them competitive in the paint like they haven't been since Diop and Dampier roamed there and Kidd is quietly still a star player because of what roles he can play on their team. He's not fast enough to stay in front of a Rose or Westbrook, but he can body up Kobe Bryant and he's big enough to contest midrange shots from guards. His rebounding, passing, and the fact that his traditionally limited offensive skillset has been effectively reduced to shooting open 3's has given some new life to his career.

Should they get past the schizo-Lakers than a rematch with the Heat could be in play, where they are probably slowly overwhelmed by not having anyone on the roster to deal with Wade and Lebron.

The Bulls aren't going anywhere unless Boozer gets it together because Rose's 40% shooting act and Noah's efforts inside aren't winning a championship anytime soon, I don't care what the MVP voters think.

If you grant my assumption that no one in the East can handle playoff-mode Wade and James that leaves the Lakers and the Grizzlies as the teams with the personnel to manage that task. Since I'll be rooting for the Thunder to go as far as they can and upset the Lakers that pushes me to go with the Heat as your 2011 NBA champion.

Thoughts?

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Mcshay is a buffoon. Anything else typed about him is a waste of my time. I’d be glad to see him do better work, but until then…

I’m having a hard time picking a team for the NBA title due to the matchups. If the Lakers (Kobe) play smart, they really should win another title. However, Kobe seems intent to go into hero mode and take more attempts per game than Bynum, Gasol and Odom combined. It’s simply stunning. Regardless, I’ll rejoice if Kobe continues to do this.

I’m pulling for the Thunder on this one. Good write up. Heat vs Thunder is my prediction/hope…more hope than prediction. Regardless, I am loving the playoffs this year. Couldn’t be better.

by Burnt Orange Wookiee on May 4, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Anytime you mention Todd McShay you have to add the disclaimer that he once had Adam Ulatoski rated as a TOP 10 overall prospect.

by jc25 on May 4, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I can’t focus on this while the fate of yet another Longhorn football star arrested for drug use rests in the hands of a jury.

by ransomstoddard on May 4, 2011 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I used to like Mcshay, until the McCoy over Suh seleciton. Do you watch football, Todd?

I gotta say, while all the draft geniuses are hit and miss. I really like Mike Mayock. It seems like his hit ratio is a little higher than everybody else (in terms of who will pan out, not in correctly picking players in mock drafts… No one beats Goose Gosselin at mocks) But I like
Mayock’s insight more than the rest of the Draft talking heads.

by Pat in Chicago on May 4, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Ransom… what?

by Pat in Chicago on May 4, 2011 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Also, if anything, Simms should’ve been convicted of illegal sucking at QB during his time on the 40 acres!

by Loisaida Horn on May 4, 2011 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Loisaida:

If that’s all you got — go away and don’t come back.

by srr50 on May 4, 2011 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Pat, I agree on Mayock. You can tell he really watched the film for these guys, and made analysis based on the context of where they played, whom they played, etc. Of course I’m being generous because he really pimped Earl Thomas through all of last year’s draft talk.

by Burnt Orange Wookiee on May 4, 2011 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Where is the line drawn between illegal sucking and legal sucking? In regards to Simms, that is. I know where ransom draws it and it’s not pretty.

Nice pic of Gasol. Zack Randolph…. boobie…. I’m your white knight.

by nordberg on May 4, 2011 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

If you look at your blue-print for how to defeat the Heat, it sounds an awful lot like the Bulls: seven-footers who can protect the rim (Noah, Asik and Gibson), a low-post presence (Boozer) and long, perimeter defenders (Brewer, Deng). I don’t know if they’ll have enough offense to beat Miami, and they’ll have to win the Boozer/Bosh and Wade/Rose match-ups, but I wouldn’t count them out in the East.

by tjarks on May 4, 2011 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Sam Acho is going to be a productive outside linebacker for the Cardinals. Teams that past on him are going to Rue the day. I am a Cowboys fan and they should have selcted him when they had the chance; instead they selected the dude from NC.

Aaron Willaims is going to be an outstanding Safety; pass coverage and run defense.

Don’t think Curtis Brown is physical enough to be a starter. His tackling skills suck!

Chykie Brown has the physical tools, but not the football acumen; he’s going to blow an assignment and get benched.

by Rolandv464 on May 4, 2011 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

tjarks,

Don’t remember Gibson being all that big, but he’s good and plays big enough. The Bulls could certainly beat the Heat, as they did regular season. Although those losses were real close, and it appears to me the heat are playing better. Like you said, it comes down to the Rose/Wade matchup and Boozer/Bosh one. Right now I think Wade would win that battle, but it’d be a heckuva lot of fun to see it play out on the court.

by Burnt Orange Wookiee on May 4, 2011 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Luol Deng, like Lamar Odom of the Lakers, is on my Guy Who Is Really Important To Their Team In Ways That Their Own Fans Don’t Even Understand team.

by Scipio Tex on May 4, 2011 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Scip, good point. Deng would be instrumental in pestering Lebron. As for Lamar Odom, if Lakers fans really don’t understand his true value to their team they are even dumber than I thought they were. What other team in the league has a 6-10 forward with PG handles coming off the bench!? It’s absurd. I hate the Lakers.

by Burnt Orange Wookiee on May 4, 2011 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Ditto on Odom/Deng.

Tjarks: I forgot about Brewer on the Bulls and his impact on their team defense, which has been very good.
I ruled out the Bulls far too quickly, but I did say that they are going nowhere without Boozer stepping it up and I stand by that. They aren’t beating the Heat unless they are maximizing the enormous mismatch between their 4 and 5 and the Heat frontcourt.

As far as the Bulls winning the Rose vs. Wade matchup. If that’s essential to a Chicago victory than you can go ahead and rule it out cause that ain’t gonna happen.

by Nickel Rover on May 4, 2011 5:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Luol Deng, like Lamar Odom of the Lakers, is on my Guy Who Is Really Important To Their Team In Ways That Their Own Fans Don’t Even Understand team.

Chuck Hayes, imo.

by jc25 on May 4, 2011 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d like to pick up where you left off on your mini-Kobe rant and declare him the biggest sports fraud of all time.

He played w/Shaq from 1998-2004 during which time Shaq was probably the most dominant center ever. Not to mention it took collossal choke jobs by the 2000 Blazers and 2002 Kings while they got to play the Pacers, Sixers and Nets from the ridiculously bad East, in order to win those three Shaq-era rings(the Pacers actually were decent, they got the shit end of the officiating stick in the 2000 Finals, big surprise).

From 2005-2007, without Shaq but with Lamar Odom, the Lakers either didn’t make the playoffs or got beat in the first round. Kobe was in his late 20s with eight NBA seasons under his belt. Hmm.

Enter 2008 and the still-unexplained Gasol trade. The Lakers have a front line of Gasol, Bynum, Odom and Artest, all in their prime. No team since the 86 Celtics has had such a formidable front line with that kind of quality bench player to boot.

Replace Kobe with any slightly above average 2 guard and the Lakers get the same results, maybe even better. I’d take my chances with Jeff Hornacek and still bet on the five rings they got.

Take Jordan off the Bulls, Magic off the 80s Lakers, Bird off the 80s Celtics, Duncan off the Spurs, and those teams have zero rings. Kobe does not belong in the same sentence as these players. I could go off on the media at this point for constantly fellating him but we already know that story.

It’s nice to type this after watching the NBA’s most talented team go down 3-0 to the Mavs and their class act Dirk Nowitzki. Did I mention I can’t stand Kobe Bryant? Everybody trippin’ I guess.

by trkhorn on May 7, 2011 1:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I’m a huge hater on Kobe but I do think he’s one of the better shooting guards of the last decade, I just think that being one of the better shooting guards of the last decade isn’t the honor that some think it is.

In this Mavericks series I think Kobe has played quite well, which illustrates the point that Kobe playing well isn’t enough to win a series. Pau Gasol was tremendous last postseason and he is bombing right now, that’s your biggest reason for why the Lakers are losing. Also, can anyone in LA shoot a 3 pointer?

by Nickel Rover on May 7, 2011 2:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Nickel,

No doubt. All-time he’s closer to Reggie Miller or Dwayne Wade in my book, just ahead of players like Rip Hamilton, Manu Ginobili and Ray Allen. To reiterate, add any of these players to Kobe’s Lakers teams and you get the same results(maybe even a sixth or seventh ring when you factor in better chemistry). And bingo – it’s Gasol who is the difference this year. In 2009-2010 he was basically the 2nd best hybrid PF/center in the league behind Dwight Howard, and not by all that much. What his problem is this year(he’s still young/healthy) is a mystery that can perhaps only be explained by the fact that even God is tired of the Lakers.

Divine intervention aside, there’s no excuse for a team as talented as the Lakers are to get swept in the 2nd round. This is why I throw up every time I hear this absurd debate over LeBron/Kobe, or whether Kobe is the “greatest player in the world” or the “greatest player ever.” He’s not in the top 10, maybe not even top 20 of all time. I’ll grudgingly give him top 25, and top shooting guard of the decade(assuming LeBron is counted as a 3). On the other hand, he is the biggest whiner of all time. Also the dirtiest player of all time aided by gutless NBA officials of course(ask Manu). Use to be the biggest traveler of all time, but he’s been surpassed by Tony Parker and a few others. You can’t fault him for a lot of his nonsense because the NBA and media let him get away with it. And you are dead on, he has been pretty solid in this year’s playoffs. But greatest player or anywhere near it – hah.

by trkhorn on May 7, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d agree with Nickel Rover — Kobe is the best shooting guard of the last decade, though I think Wade and T-Mac (when healthy) were better. The funny thing is, being the best 2 guard in the NBA isn’t THAT big a deal. It’s probably the least important position on the floor; it’s like being the best WR in the NFL. Teams built around shooting guards not named MJ don’t win much; all the other great 2’s — Kobe, Jerry West etc. — needed dominant front-court players to win anything.

by tjarks on May 7, 2011 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

tj,

And point guards not named Magic or Oscar. If you made a list of the absolute best players regardless of position it would be dominated by bigs, peppered here and there with small forwards and just those precious few guards. It’s just the nature of the game.

Suggestion: why don’t you guys make some kind of all-time NBA list post? Whereas discussing the greatest NFL/MLB players bores me to tears, doing such w/the NBA is endlessly fascinating to me and hopefully others. Not to diminish your current NBA material which is typical BC-grade stuff.

by trkhorn on May 7, 2011 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Wade, for his ability to get to the free throw line, shoot high FG %’s, make steals, rebound, and assist, is much closer to Jordan in how he is able to impact a game than Kobe.
I would rate him far ahead of Bryant for that reason.

Generally I adhere to the Wins Produced metric for determining the best players, there really isn’t a better standard.

by Nickel Rover on May 8, 2011 8:06 AM CDT reply actions  

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