Dan Snyder to open fifth seal of the Apocalypse

It’s “Apocalypse.”

not that it matters, but the 5th seal is meh. The 6th seal is when things really start happening.

That’s what I get for rushing this before a staff meeting.

Don’t worry, we’ll get to the sixth seal when Snyder decides to bring in Jerry Glanville.

If this happens I’m going to blame the Vikings as much as anyone for eschewing a match made in Heaven to pursue the rapidly decomposing McNabb.

This would be Hell on earth – only Vince to the Eagles could be worse. The only possible silver lining would be if Jeff Fisher took over for Coughlin next year (a pretty good fit, actually) and Vince absolutely horsefucked him twice a season.

If this happens, Shannahan will have two billionaires paying him not to coach at the same time.

bates, c’mon now. it’s ‘aflutter’ not ‘a flutter’. we has standards here, you know.

Check out Plummer’s performance pre-Shanahan and with Shanahan- journeyman to Pro-Bowler.

So, Kyle Shanahan would be calling VInce’s plays?

nobis,

I disagree on Philly being worse. Nowhere would be worse for Vince than D.C. It would be an absolute perfect storm of total failure.

If Vince can’t get a starting job, Philly would actually be my top choice for him, even as a Cowboys fan.

The likelihood of Vick getting hurt is extraordinarily high, and Philly has shown the ability and willingness to use a QB diverse talents. I think, if he absolutely has to start off as a backup, Philly would be the ideal place for Vince to showcase himself.

Washington would be the end of Vince.

Mike Shanahan is Jeff Fisher’s closest friend in coaching, no?

Andy Reid has shown the ability to work with a pretty diverse range of personalities and talents (excluding T.O., who nobody has managed to work with successfully for any extended period of time).

Shanny is Fisher on steroids: Obstinate, imperious, with a dash of petty (see the Haynesworth August physical debacle) to boot.

Young Williams called it: perfect storm of fail.

“Shanny is Fisher on steroids: Obstinate, imperious, with a dash of petty (see the Haynesworth August physical debacle) to boot. "

THIS. You could add manipulative to the list and no one would object.

That said, I wish he was still in Denver.

The Kyle Shannahan angle is interesting though.

I’m still holding out that he will end up in Minnesota. It’s tough being a Vikings fan sometimes…

Young Williams -

I meant from my perspective as a Cowboys fan. Philly would be far better from a football perspective for Vince if Andy Reid was on his side, but no way on Earth he would dislodge Vick at this point.

At least Vince won’t have to move when he runs for President one day.

You realize VY is half retarded right?

So then he’s twice as intelligent as G.W.

^Dude. Seriously?

This makes me sick to my stomach.

I know better, but this is really starting to feel like a conspiracy. He gets jobbed by his coach for a few years. The individual incidents are well documented. The media begins to see a spoiled, weak-willed guy, not NFL material. This theme blossoms over time. The “suicide” rumor becomes a defining moment, giving detractors a springboard to discuss his immaturity. Meanwhile, one QB gets locked up in federal prison for torturing and killing man’s best friend, another QB’s rape charges never materialize because the DA didn’t think he could get a conviction, and their stories are ones of fighting through adversity and becoming better men. Vince Young’s misdeed was throwing his pads into the stands and cussing out his coach, and HE’s the guy that can’t find a job! He’s the bad guy?

So Adams fires everyone. Munchak declares, like a spirited warrior protecting the hamlet from dark forces, that VY will not return—Munchak won’t allow it! The conspiracy takes form when teams inexplicably draft shitty QBs way too high on Day 1 of the draft, guaranteeing that those clubs will build around those new QBs, and not want VY. Finally, the one team with the very worst need for a QB, a team with no hope, a nutjob owner, a team that appeared to stop giving a shit after about 5 weeks into the 2010 season—that team decides not to draft a QB. So DC. That’s where he’s going to end up.

Maybe I’m underestimating the talent that would surround VY were he to end up in DC. All I see is a shitty record, regardless of how he performs, and possible injuries, the result of being expected to do too much for a team that sucks.

Is there ANY silver lining to this VY to Redskins scenario?

“Is there ANY silver lining to this VY to Redskins scenario?”

NFL paycheck for VY.

A conspiracy? Really? For what reason exactly?

Black quarterbacks?

No, as if that was the case Vick wouldn’t be the starter in Philly after they signed Kolb to that big contract. How would one explain Newton being selected first overall this year.

Texas quarterbacks?

If that is the case why does Simms still a spot even with the drug time and how did Colt end up being the starter in Cleveland.

Vince being viewed as prima donna?

He hasn’t handled himself the best at times, but he wouldn’t be the first high draft pick to have that label placed upon him and even some of those have garnered a second chance somewhere.

I think the truth is somewhere between Vince being a big immature and Fisher being an ass. Unfortunately, the NFL is driven by ego’s and more times than not the ability to fit into what the coach asks you to do on the field is more valued than what you are capable of doing on the field.

Same way in much of life. I currently work for a company that is very set how they do things and they don’t care how talented or how much business you produce. If you don’t fit into their model you don’t get promoted and you don’t stay around long. It breeds a culture no driving to succeed, but to model what it takes to get promoted. Some are happy to live on their proverbial knees while others die on the feet (my apologies to Heller for butchering that line from one of my favorite passages of my favorite book.).

Personally I hate the enviroment and chafe everyday in a place that basically encourage mediocrity and passes it off as a high level of performance. Unfortunately I haven’t found anything to date that fits my needs so I have two choices, do what they want until I find something else or leave now.

There seems to have been constant fricition between Vince, Fisher, and part of the staff at times and while Fisher was wrong in many ways the last thing you would want to get in the NFL at that position is a reputation you are uncoachable or won’t conform to the coaches system.

Manning, Brady, Favre, Rogers, Brees, all have gone through the growing process and they have gotten more freedom after they earned the trust of their teammates an their coaches. Vick had to show he could do what Andy Reid wanted from the position and when he did he was given the job.

I am not claiming to be an insider and not saying Vince is completely at fault, but in the end the one thing I have seen again and again in the NFL is the player fitting to team first and foremost and that means players and staff.

“Is there ANY silver lining to this VY to Redskins scenario?”

Any Hall of Fame and Super Bowl ambitions for VY are going be shot, butchered and deep-sixed with a move to DC. But as long as Vince’s money is guaranteed, it’s not the worst outcome that could happen.

Davey—-I understand that it’s not, in fact, a conspiracy.

You make a good point that if a player’s reputation becomes “uncoachable” then teams will avoid him. Whether the player is actually uncoachable is another question.

I’m also pissed at the world about the Christian Ponder pick.

Conspiracy : first, Mack Brown will eventually go to ESPN; second, ESPN trashes Vince Young at every opportunity; and third, the TEXAS LONGHORN National Championship will never be Mack’s, unless Vince is taken down. Only diehard Longhorn football fans will remember the way in which VY commanded the Texas offense, and willed the Longhorn defense to victory over Southern Cal … all others will remember what’s put out there last. In the end, it will be ESPN analyst Mack Brown who coached UT to greatness, while VY proved, with a little help from ESPN and others, that he’s not NFL worthy, and lucky to have played for MB during his college years. It will always be about Mack’s legacy, which surprises me … I always thought he was such a nice guy.

“Check out Plummer’s performance pre-Shanahan and with Shanahan- journeyman to Pro-Bowler.”

Don’t put too much into that. Trust me, as a Broncos fan Plummer’s success was more a result of Gary Kubiak’s coaching and play calling than Shanahan. Before Kubiak was a terrible HC he was a pretty good OC. I don’t think WAS is the good place for VY.

what if the much hated redskins brought in VY and then snyder fired shanahan and hired fisher?

Additional upside: VY no longer plays for the Tennessee Oilers.