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VY Forever

Forever, as in, that's how long we'll keep talking about him, rooting for him and defending his grievances, self-inflicted or not.

Accepting this Credo of Invinceibility, here are a few interesting links of late to read and respond to:

bateshorn opened the fifth seal of the apocalypse and Redskin fan is twitchy. Such is life under Dan Snyder.

From Spencer Hall's everydayshouldbeVYday:

It is delightful that Tennessee drafted someone who will put up Vince Young's passing numbers, but who will not be all sulkypants crazy like Vince, and that everyone in Nashville will be totally cool with this.

Vince Young Steakhouse won the best player-owned restaurant award. That's one lukewarm appetizer away from collecting a James Beard award. I doubt Thomas Keller is losing any sleep but it's another example of VY's inability not to win.

PB thinks Vince Young Can Throw Uncle Rico.

Now Geoff Fisher says VY is a Winner. wtf10?! Calculating, that mustache.

In your best display of blind loyalty, tell us why VY still rules your footballing, culinary, and fashion worlds.

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If anyone hasn’t seen the videos, go to trackingvince.com and you can watch every play Vince has made in the past 2 years.

by bevosbackside on May 12, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

If anyone hasn’t seen the videos, go to trackingvinceyoung.com and you can watch every play Vince has made in the past 2 years.

by bevosbackside on May 12, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

0-6 team to 8-2 turnaround.

2009-2010 season highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVcOzpAYbMw

Rockin the skullcap the entire time.

by cmdr on May 12, 2011 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m…uh…going to need a wide shot of that picture…I hear.

by Lowery on May 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

This is an instructive read from a Redskin blog:
 
http://burgundyblog.com/post/5367586151/vince

by Scipio Tex on May 12, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

4th and 5. ’nuff said.

by Burnt Orange Wookiee on May 12, 2011 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Great link, Scip.

by jc25 on May 12, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Ditto that, JC25.

by TXStampede on May 12, 2011 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Scip’s link makes me want to backhand Fisher for making me have to actually defend Vince to people instead of allowing them to worship him with me. Dealing with a coach who’s career is defined by mediocrity would wear on anyone with aspirations for better much less the man for whom the concept of “just gettin by” simply does not compute.

by CVictoryJoyously on May 12, 2011 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

When a .500 coach meets a .640 QB, said coach should probably put a little more effort into making things work.

Still not sure if Spencer Hall’s take was tongue in cheek or not, but if he expects Jake “I got the shocker” Locker to remotely approximate Vince’s production in the NFL I’m going to question whether he watched any college or pro football over the last half decade.

by nobis60 on May 12, 2011 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

The Chris Mortensen-Jeff Fisher stuff is particularly important as Mort has been crucial in shaping a lot of the media perception of VY.
 
Remember that Mort touted Matt Jones as the premier game-changing mobile QB in Vince’s time – not Vince Young. He penned some rah-rah articles and said some things on air at ESPN that bordered on insane with respect to Jones’ abilities and character.
 
Here’s a link if you want a taste of the madness: http://tippingpitchers.com/vb4final/showthread.php?24575-Chris-Mortensen-and-Matt-Jones

His closing comments in the article are priceless:
 
Matt Jones won’t be among the top 10 players selected in the April 23-24 draft, but I will venture to say that he’ll play in more Pro Bowls than almost any of those guys.
 
And I will laugh, knowing I told you so.

 
Strong judge of character, Mort.

by Scipio Tex on May 12, 2011 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Scipio, I heard Mort say some things about Matt Jones on live radio that almost made me run my car off the road. Things like, “Matt Jones is a bigger, faster, stronger-armed version of Vince Young.”
I believe it was the same interview where he said that David Carr was faster than Vince Young. I thought I was being punk’d or something.

by nordberg on May 12, 2011 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

nordberg -
 
That’s tame compared to some of the stuff I remember on draft day. He was so over the top about it, I started to wonder if there was something I was missing. Jones was a very good college QB with great measurables, but c’mon.
 
Kind of amusing his guy busts spectacularly and does it with drug arrests, failed drug tests, and six grams of yayo while Mort paints Vince as all that’s wrong in sports.

by Scipio Tex on May 12, 2011 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I will never understand the almost unanimous negative perception of the pundits regarding VY.

Dari nok noka nokanabeheretomorrow said Marcus Vick would be the better pro. Merrill Hodges idiocy is legend.

Where the fuck does the unwarranted hate stem from? Did VY molest the media when they were a child?

That buckle was worn by Vasherized at a Vince Gill concert.

by magnusbleuveigner on May 12, 2011 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn’t Mort’s son play with Jones at Arkie? That would explain the Jones love.

by Jesus Shuttlesworth on May 12, 2011 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

VY yesterday, VY today, VY forever.

And fuck Jeff Fisher.

by burnt orange outrage on May 12, 2011 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Let’s not overlook the fact that Fisher is a former USC trojan. I wouldn’t be surprised if Fisher was standing on the sideline while VY went all GOAT on Fishers beloved former team.

by roach on May 12, 2011 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus -
 
Alex Mortensen was 4th string at Arkansas, transferred to Samford where he didn’t start and was a scrub in the action he saw, and then transferred BACK to Arkansas where he didn’t play a snap for the remainder of his career.
 
Yet he was somehow signed to the Tennessee Titan practice squad as a free agent and Jeff Fisher let him play in an exhibition game.
 
So, uh, yeah.

by Scipio Tex on May 12, 2011 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn, I could make a fortune as a bookie at ESPN what with all the homer-ism endemic at the place

You sign my kid, I give you good pub. Don’t journalists have any ethics, oh sorry stupid question.

by roach on May 12, 2011 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

What VY’s done does not bother me. Does your conscience bother you, tell me true…

by The Republic on May 12, 2011 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

“In your best display of blind loyalty, tell us why VY still rules your footballing, culinary, and fashion worlds.”

Because I knew with him on the field and in control there wasn’t a chance in hell we were ever going to lose a game. No matter the situation. Never felt that before and probably never will again.

by Bartoncreek on May 12, 2011 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Vince will still be the name of my second born.
After Major and before Colt of course.

If i can convince a woman to marry me, convincing her to agree to name our children Major, Vince, and Colt will be the easy part.

by PVogel on May 12, 2011 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

great, great link. many thanks for that.

whoever gets vince — provided they are sensible and open to using him wisely as mack was and greg wasn’t — is in for one hell of a great ride.

by wow on May 12, 2011 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Vince has earned lifelong fealty from every Longhorn fan. I will be a fan of any team he plays for. Don’t care. He’s the man.

by Monahorns on May 12, 2011 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Vince has earned lifelong fealty from every Longhorn fan. I will be a fan of any team he plays for. Don’t care. He’s the man.
Agree. I’m all Corleone with him and get pissed when someone goes against the family.

by PatronSaint on May 12, 2011 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

The link on the Redskins blog to video of Young’s draft was interesting. The first words you hear are discussions of McNair being locked out of the training facility. I had totally forgotten about that. Nice history with your star qbs, guys.

TITANS LOCK OUT McNAIR

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen and Jim Wyatt of the Nashville Tennessean report that the Tennessee Titans have barred quarterback Steve McNair from the team’s practice facility until his current contract is resolved.

McNair actually was asked to leave the facility on Monday by a team trainer after the veteran quarterback arrived on Monday for offseason conditioning.

“Steve was told that until he got his contract straightened out, he wasn’t welcome at the facility,” agent Bus Cook told Mortensen. "Heck, he’s got his contract already straightened out and now he’s trying to fulfill it by reporting for the offseason.

“A month ago they say he needs to be there to get familiar with the young guys,” Cook told the Tennessean,"and now they tell him to get out? I have never seen anything like that in my life.

“They can sugarcoat it any way they want to, but when you throw your starting quarterback off the property, an MVP, Pro Bowl guy who led them to the Super Bowl and one of the greatest players in the history of the team . . . . To just to throw him out? After this, I don’t think Steve would want to go back any more.”
The team is attempting to persuade McNair to reduce his $10 million salary, which makes up a $24 million cap number for 2006.

“The reason his cap number is $24 million is because they kept asking him to restructure every year to create space,” Cook said. “This guy has done everything for the team, and he has two or three really good years left. Now, they treat him like this.”

Good luck, Titans, getting McNair to reduce his salary now. It’s just a matter of time before the former Alcorn State star is looking for a new home.

by PatronSaint on May 12, 2011 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

On the restaurant front, I just tried his joint for the first time Tuesday night and it was fantastic. I had read bad reviews aplenty and was fully expecting full on failure. Like VY on a 4th and 18, the bone in ribeye refused to lose. Of course the Ridge wine and the multiple cedar door Mexican martinis may have had something to do with my assessment.

by Fbomb on May 12, 2011 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

A lot of people wearing orange colored glasses on this thread.

Tap the brakes people.

:)

by GigoloJoe on May 12, 2011 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

ace job, ace.

by hey on May 12, 2011 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Fuck you.

That is all

by Hey Gigolo Joe... on May 12, 2011 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I would like to see how VInce performs in an offense with some talent and a staff that is solidly behind him. He deserves that shot.

by KilgoreTrout on May 12, 2011 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Ace just collected a VY signed tote bag.

by Vasherized on May 12, 2011 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I was being ironic. Mockingly repeating messageboard cliches. I’ve actually seen those in threads on Vince on other sites.

by GigoloJoe on May 12, 2011 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I don’t hate you anymore

by Hey Gigolo Joe... on May 12, 2011 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ve seen this movie before. Sorry for the spoiler, but VY wins.

by Jesus Shuttlesworth on May 13, 2011 12:38 AM CDT reply actions  

i just a had baby. Named him Vince.

by hornin hong kong on May 13, 2011 1:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I just had triplets. They’re all named Vince.

by nordberg on May 13, 2011 8:13 AM CDT reply actions  

But you named them after Vincent Vaughn. Big difference.

by Vasherized on May 13, 2011 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Great read Scipio.

He had me at " Bud is crazier than a sprayed roach." I’m going to fit that into a conversation in the near future for sure.

by jinx on May 13, 2011 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

PVogel :

Not to go off on a tangent, but Chris is a better name than Major.

by roach on May 13, 2011 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I forgot the Kyle Shanahan link at the Redskins. As a disgruntled Redskins fan, Vince with the Redskins would bring a smile to my face (though their receiving core is subpar). Chris Cooley is also a nice target.

by Eskimohorn on May 13, 2011 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I think that Vince could succeed in D.C. Not sure Vince can succeed with Mike Shanahan and Dan Snyder (whose fucked a few players over in his own right. See Arrington, Lavar.)

If my kids hadn’t been born before 2005 they’d be called Vince 1 and Vince 1A, since VY doesn’t come in second.

by Bateshorn on May 13, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

This is all just full of win.

I agree with the caller above about knowing that we would not lose with Vince on the field…it was nice.

And yes, I’ll be a fan of whatever team Vince goes to and gets a shot to prove himself yet again.

by uthookem on May 13, 2011 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

And yes, I’ll be a fan of whatever team Vince goes to and gets a shot to prove himself yet again.

and the corollary to that: “Any team that screws with him will be forever dead to me.”

so basically, when Houston plays Nashville, it’ll be like the OU-aTm game…

by The Bobs on May 13, 2011 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Totally agree with the Bobs. I will enjoy watching both of those clubs fail.

by Burnt Orange Wookiee on May 13, 2011 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Growing up in Houston and bearing the scars from the Oilers, I laughed out loud at the “sprayed roach” description of the Budster. He embarassed himself and our city in more crazy ways than I can count. The Floyd Reese/Jeff Fisher feud was very typical of this franchise and it was both sad and maddening to see VY caught in the middle.

All Vince needs is some decent talent around him and a coach that isn’t actively working to undermine him.

by hopefulhorn on May 14, 2011 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

tell us why VY still rules your footballing

The guy made Oklahoma and the entire Big XII look like an afterthought.

He kept the focus where it ought to be: Crushing every team standing between Texas and a national championship, however mythical that championship might be.

Then, in the title game, he

• Beat the team that had been anointed as “greatest ever” by almost every sports analyst
• In what was a de facto home game for them, played 15 miles from their campus
• Even though that team had two Heisman winners
• The first of which he outthrew, and
• The second of which — a RB — he outrushed by 100 f-ing percent

I’m not sure that performance has an equal in college football history.

With reference to his food and clothing I cannot judge with confidence, for I live on pizza and beer and look like a parrot dragged backwards through a hedge.

by Louis L'am Jones on May 14, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Great link Scipio Tex. Tells us everything anyone who has an issue with Vince should read. It is perfect. One of the things that Mack Brown did well was let Vince be Vince. Probably one of the best decisions Greg Davis ever made was to let Vince run the Zone read.

I am sick of people telling me how much of a loser Vince is. He was a winner and everything he has done so far tells me that he continues to be a winner.

VY Forever

by kris on May 16, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Check out this on “Vertical” Vince Young.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/10/going-deep/

by Major Cult on Jun 17, 2011 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

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