Texas Legislature Putting Runners On The Run

Despite its limits, this sounds like a step in the right direction. Every public beating of the street agent drum by anyone not connected to our program helps us.

No question.

Nick Saban says ’bout time!

One question. Don’t you have to define a person or entity perform you regulate it?

“Amber: Me and my big mouth. We should have taken the trip to Hawaii.
Ben Richards: I had the shirt for it, but you fucked it up.”

the first real line of defense is the high school programs and their schools. just making it plain that this behavior is reprehensible to the point that legislation has been written will go a long way toward turning the opinions of the first line people here in texas. most programs and most schools are staffed by good people, and this sort of official condemnation is all it will take for them to recognize the issue and become proactive.

Davey -
 
I think they attempt that here:
 
The bills require agents to post a $50,000 bond with the state and be certified with a national professional sports association. The bill also requires individuals, not corporations, to register as agents, making sure someone is held accountable, Dutton said.

Scipio,

Very quick fix if I am Lyles .Simply call my self a consultant, a free-lance video distribution consultant, or anything that does imply I am an agent.

Over the past 8-10 years I have seen a similar situation take place with the sexual oriented businesses in Houston. Two weeks after a new law has been passed regulating how the businesses are organized the place is reopened under a completely new business structure.

Tell us more, Davey.

Would love to, but can’t see past the tinfoil on the windows.

I’m confident Davey’s story has a happy ending.

Davey you have it backwards. The teeth in the law is criminalizing certain behavior. You don’t have to define criminals to make certain things crimes. it’s not a matter of semantics and if Willie was caught doing those things he could call himself the easter bunny and it wouldn’t matter.

Yes the law also regulates but does so by requiring people to register and pay up if they want to engage in agent type activities. The flip side of that is if you don’t register, you get in trouble for doing things that would be legal if you did – so will can’t just call himself something else.

Those businesses you are talking about make it by going right up to the limit and hiding it when they go beyond. Sure there will be some of the same here but at least now a lot of shady but legal stuff is outlawed and there is a big barrier to entry that will keep out lowlifes. I don’t know all the details but seems like a step forward to me.

Looking the proposed law and what Lyles has supposedly down how does this effect him?

He is paid by kids and their parents to promote them player colleges, he is paid by the colleges to gather film. I don’t recall ever talking to anyone in which their was mention of him doing any of the above mentioned actions.

Yeah Davey I read over the bill and I see your point. Should have done that first before I pretended to be smart ^^

It would have been nice if they defined “athlete agent” more broadly to include, for example, an individual who receives something of value to help obtain college scholarships for athletes. That would require lyles to post the $ and register and would prevent him from giving something of value/approaching athletes. As it is now, I think you’re right the bill doesn’t really affect him. I bet it gets changed quite a bit, I saw several glaring omissions on first glance.

Here is the tough part of writing that definition. In our discussions about Lyles the entire focus is on football recruiting, but consider that for many kids playing high school sports they are involved with a coaches, trainers, and various groups that in some cases are more actively involved with the development of the athlete than the high school coaches. Not uncommon for kids playing golf and tennis to have their own pros and basically the high school coach stays out of the way. My daughter has friends who play volleyball and they have more contact with college coaches through the club teams than the high school. The competition to get on the select baseball teams in the Houston area is brutal and the girls club soccer programs are the pathway for getting a college soccer scholarship.

Each of these are situations where there are large amounts of money being spent for kids to get specialized training beyond high school, contact is often times made with college coachs, and all is operating outside the oversight of the high schools and UIL.

Yeah . . . definition could either focus on whether training is real or a sham (that might make some legit people nervous unnecesarily) or on whether the individual receives compensation from the college to steer kids that way (are there any real independent scouting services that schools actually pay for and rely on??)

I also can’t think of a workable way to prohibit the willies from offering something of value to the highschool athlete . . . drats

ack shully is probably closest to the mark, that simply the growing awareness will curb a lot of this stuff

Funny thing is I have been told by a few friends that there are more than one high school coach in the Houston area that is mad at Lyles because he has cut the coach out of the equation.

There are stories about one coach in Houston years ago who was a frequent speaking at the coaching schools that college’s frequently conducted at that time. If you watched him teams or listened to him speak you would think no coaching was taking place at all, but the guy was a regular. Then again each speaker did get an honorarium and he did have a loaded squad damn near every year so it wasn’t hard to do the math.

the law should just say that W Lyles would sell his own mom and Auburn and Oregon stay the F*ck out dont be messin with Texas

Looks like it’s not a perfect measure by any means but it’s certainly a step in the right direction. Counting on consistent enforcement from the NCAA on this issue will always be a pipe dream, so criminalizing the actions of the street agent in soliciting funds for an athlete’s visit/signature was always going to be the most effective approach. Think Will Lyles wants any part of a discovery proceeding? Continuing proactive efforts to educate high school coaches and encourage them to take a hard line on scum like Lyles leeching off their kids will also help.

The problem is none of the provisions in the proposed bill address Lyles, he isn’t carrying a business card saying he is an agent. It is my understanding he established himself as a speed and conditioning coach and it evolved from there.

Anyone that thinks the Texas Legislature knows what it is doing about this or anything else for that matter is in la la land.

Money talks and shit walks.

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