Willie Lyles: Victim of The BOMC

I know for a fact that Texas holds a high school coach’s clinic every year. At that clinic, coaches get all the Gatoraid they can drink, and they even turn the AC way down low.

Call the NCAA!!!

The worst thing I saw was a player profile for a young man who was dead. Oregon’s office of public records just released two emails Lyles sent in February and March will spreadsheets of names of HS sophomores (but no specific profiles of the players). He sent the email in March a few hours before this story broke.

Lyles knows he’s been busted and is hoping if he tells the lies enough someone will believe him. I wonder how many high school coaches are going to let him on campus now that he’s blamed them for taking money from Texas?

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2011/06/canzano_fans_need_to_demand_an.html

Turns out the Ducks paid $25,000 to Willie Lyles for information on stale recruiting prospects that included a deceased player, at least one already playing at Auburn, and dozens of others who weren’t Division I prospects or were long gone from high school before the 2011 report was issued.

Hearing from some Pac 12 west coast folks that Chip may be in Tressel-sized jam here.

Is it any surprise that the “journalist” who offered Will Lyles a chance to plead his case is known on the Houston airwaves as Lesbian Craig? Craig has on a regular basis taken swipes at UT on the radio anytime he has had a chance.

After thinking about this a little more, I’d say the story going forward isn’t Lyles. He’s a crook and is kryptonite for anyone who gives him access.

What will be interesting is the course of action Chip Kelly and Oregon take. Thus far, I’d be very concerned if I were a Duck fan:
- Oregon paid 25k for irrelevant and outdated information
- they sat on that information for a year
- after Charles Robinson from Yahoo called Chip Kelly in February, Kelly contacted Lyles and asked for MORE scouting information
- Lyles sends Kelly an email in February and again in March when they are notified that a story will be published
- Oregon claims that they can’t differentiate the scouting videos Lyles gave them even though all scouting services imprint a logo on all of their tapes.

I feel a cover up coming.

Watching this piece of shit I’ve loathed for years squirm and whelp while he takes it in the proverbial ass (repeatedly) in full public view has been the highlight of my year so far.

Props to CTJ, Shaggy Bevo and Recruitocosm for helping to make this happen.

What the hell is 1430 AM in Houston?

dick – urban community radio station. Not big ratings but fairly influential in the black Houstonite community.

the thing that encourages me the most right now is the reaction of the oregon newspaper. they are clearly fed up and are sharpening their knives. no idea what to expect from oregon fans and the people of oregon. no idea what they are made of, but at least the press up there has some sand in it.

also, the involvement of the major national sports mags and sites is nice to see. oregon must have spastic sphincters right now. they are in just about everybody’s crosshairs except a certain w lyles.

my heartfelt thanks and deepest respect to the people here, at recruitocosm, close-to over on shaggy, and whoever and wherever else people have not let this issue die.

speaking of ducks and ducking, i am writing a novel in my head, and i’m certain that’s where it will remain. but, anyway, there’s a scene in a new jersey warehouse in the deep of winter where our two protagonists are being stalked by bad guys. they are darting from cubby to cubby, hiding behind barrels and crates, and one of the guys is so miserably cold that he can’t stop shaking. the fear is that he will a noise that will give them away.

our other guy whispers to him, ‘why are you so cold?’

’it’s this coat. doesn’t turn the cold like yours does.’

‘you should have sprung for goose down, like mine. nothing better than a goose-down parka.’

at that moment, there is a faint but sharp crack that splits the air, and our more comfortable pal says, ‘shh. duck down.’

our miserable buddy’s last words are, ‘goose down or duck down?’

I’m pretty sure DeLoss and Mack are just going to stand around and let Lyles outright accuse us of paying high school coaches. What action can we take against that?

OOOHHHHHH Boy. You have got to be kidding me. 25k for a recruiting brochure with kids that graduated in ‘09, including a deceased student???? Ummmmmm…. Is it just me, or is this worse than the Ohio State/ Tressel debacle. I mean… this is really, really bad. Now, is there anyway that they can actually pin this on any of the players, as far as accepting grants? Because here is what I’m not understanding—- Chip Kelly didn’t pay for the brochures, he paid for Lyles to influence the players to come to Oregon. Now, is that an NCAA violation if there was no monetary incentive being handed to the actual player? Obviously there is shady business involved, but is it illegal for Kelly to ask Lyles to help sway a recruit’s opinion? Sorry for the newb question, just don’t know the answer.

There is no need right now for Texas to lawyer up over Lyles. It is just the rantings of a street agent who is about to go down. To respond (legally or otherwise) would give a certain amount of credence to his ravings and only further the promotion of his attack.

Let the Lyles saga play out. There is plenty of time to bring the full weight of the University to bear should this have any kind of legs.

I wonder how many schools Lyles might take down with him should he ever find himself cornered enough to flip and start talking.

I second Pat in Chicago’s question.

I suppose there is malfeasance or fraud if Kelly is paying for something with college funds and getting something else.

Well, isn’t that how the NCAA explained away the Cam Newton problem? Cam didn’t get the money?

Regarding fraud, it appears that Kelly was fine with what he got for the money. Hard to say that the school could step in and tell him he should have gotten something different.

no, bob.↓ the ncaa says there is no evidence that anything more than talk occurred. at least that was what they said when there was still money to be made from cam.

There was an in-depth story on BON regarding the brochure, the request for documentation via open records, and the university’s response regarding the videos. I was going to post a link last night but got distracted. :-)

Oregon should be in it up to their eyebrows, Lyles should be banned from having contact with any amateur athlete, and the NCAA should closely investigate any school that had business dealings with Lyles.

This might have been what Texas was waiting for. Lyles to make defamatory statements. It might now become “put up or shut up” time for Mr. Lyles, and if he countersues his whole story unwinds like a ball of yarn.

I would like to think that this was the plan all along.

To me @whitlockjason should be fired for his profound use of the race card.

“Let me get this straight, yawl. Po Willie Lyles is the culprit after making a WHOPPING $36,000 last year.”

Yes, he is the culprit you slovenly fat sack of shit.

Lyles reported $36k to the IRS. Who knows what he made. I imagine most cheaters are smart enough to pay cash.

GREAT BALLS!!!! My son is on that list! He wasn’t a 2010 recruit.

I think he just cut and pasted out of Texas Football magazine and wasn’t even careful about what year he chose.

BOMC? I don’t get it (or did you mean BMOC?).

BOMC = burnt orange media conspiracy

Aggy-in-Tejas : How much did Lyles pay you to get your son to commit to the likes of Weepita State, SheepLovers College or was it Clown U?

Man, Lyles didn’t give me JACK CACA.

cam newton is through making money for the ncaa. they’ve made every dime they’ll ever make off him.

cam newton is through making money for the ncaa. they’ve made every dime they’ll ever make off him.

So you said. No need to repeat it, but how’s about you answer the question? In case you’ve already forgotten and can’t find your PageUp key, or a scroll bar, it was (and is):

What money was there to be "made from cam" before that there is not, now?

In case you’ve forgotten the context, that’s “money to be made” by the NC2A.

The NCAA does not make money off of football. They make it off the NCAA tourney.

Bob,

The issue in Camgate was that nobody got any money. The NCAA specifically said that if money had gone to a third party, the ruling would have gone the other way.

Nope,

Cam did not make $$ for the NCAA. Football generally doesn’t make them much.

The same day that Lyles was spouting his nonsense to a tiny audience, Travis Rodgers was ripping Oregon and Lyles on his show on 1560 The Game to much larger one.

whether directly or indirectly, i’m sure the ncaa benefited nicely from cam playing his final game.

“In most years, rights fees have accounted for about 85 percent of all NCAA revenue. In 2009-10, the media agreements constituted 86 percent of NCAA revenue. Most of the remaining 14 percent in 2009-10 came from championships (mostly ticket sales).”

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Answers/Nine+points+to+consider_one

the ncaa has an incredible stake in engaging the interest of the public. what the ncaa most fears, i bet, other than loss of tax status or other government involvement is loss of public interest and/or trust. actually, i’m not at all sure the ncaa is more afraid of the government.

if the ncaa didn’t make a penny off that game — which i don’t believe for one minute — they needed a texas/usc style match-up to try to heal wounds with the viewing public. thank goodness, i’m sure the ncaa is saying, that texas won their big match-up, or there would be another championship vacated in this awful decade.

it may be that, for that reason, the ncaa will try very hard to not look at auburn. especially since newton is gone. but to say the ncaa didn’t make money off him is ridiculous.

Surely Lyles realizes that this “bidness” is dead. It was dead a month and half ago, and after he just accused HS Football coaches of being on the take, it’s doubly dead. What I don’t understand, is why isn’t Lyles doing something to prepare for the future. Has Phil Knight already bought him? Maybe he needs to start a bidding war from different parties for his testimony. We all know Nike U is gonna have a soft landing, but Lyles? Not so much. That guy should get his head out of his ass and get to work making money blackmailing Oregon AD. It’s doubtful that they get outbid by TMZ, or Justice Dept., or “insert name of media group” media group, etc., etc. Even if he does, newspapers will at least pay a few thousand for an “inside” story.

I don’t think Lyles thinks his business is dead. There was a guy on the radio here in Austin a couple of days ago who has been investigating and he links the commitments of Matt Davis, Bralon Addison, and Trey Williams to A&M to Lyles.

He might be wrong, but that is what this guy said. His name was Brook or Brooks or something like that.

“The issue in Camgate was that nobody got any money.”

That anyone has been able to prove yet.

Proof? We don’t need no steenkin’ PROOF! We jus’ gonna DEEM it.

Listen to the entire webcast. He flat out admits to influencing where recruits go and acting as a 3rd part recruiter.

I am most flabbergasted by the Oregon fans who are defending Chip Kelly and staff. If this had happened at A&M, I would be calling fo rMike Sherman’s head on a spike outside of Kyle Field.

Monohorns – give me a freakin’ break. At least provide a link. And even then, A&M cleaned up our act over a decade ago. I know if’s hard for you to wrap your brain around us beating you 3 outta the last 5 without cheating, but it happened.

Ag_In_TX, here is the radio link of the interview. The guy could be full of it but it is someone not affiliated with Texas who makes the statement. Listen to it and let us know what you think.

http://kznx-am.tritondigitalmedia.com/includes/news_items/6/2879/brooksjune21.mp3

Thanks – and here is an interview with Matt Davis hisself talking about the fact neither he, nor Trey Williams, nor Bralon Addison have any kind of relationship with Will Lyles.

http://tamu.247sports.com/Article/Matt-Davis-Addresses-Lyles-Rumors-19609

Damn – can’t listen at work. I’ll try to listen to it in the next few days. Thanks for the link Mono

Nope,

If it were a “ridiculous” claim, you’d be able to find evidence. You don’t have any, b/c it’s a true claim. I understand your $$ claim makes for a better conspiracy theory. It makes poor reality, however. We’re discussing basic concepts of college sports. I suggest you start following.

Randall,

Absence of evidence = evidence of absence. The investigation of Newton’s recruitment employed unprecedented manpower by the NCAA, and found, in the words of NCAA president Mark Emmert, “no evidence” that money changed hands. That much $$ would be easily detected had it changed hands. The sooner you realize that Bama blogs, and Bob in Houston, sometimes tell lies, the better off you’ll be.

Dictionary remains hilarious.

nobis,

Glad to be of value.

Tell me about it. It’s not even clear if Bob is in Houston.

If we find out he’s Bob In Cy Falls, Bob in Sugarland, or Bob in Katy (also the title of his honeymoon video), his termination will be swift and severe.

You can guide them in a wheelchair and put them in a puddle, so they can suggest their blazonry and legs. In a syndicate unfit people can do things that they can’t commonly do otherwise.