Mondays In the Humidor
by Barking Carnival Staff on Aug 30, 2011 2:50 PM CDT
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PrintConsider this the inaugural edition of a new feature we’ll be running at the beginning of every week. If you remember our stuff from last season, a lot of the Big Cigar information came from the locker room in the aftermath of each weekend’s battle. We also get a lot of our information over the weekend when we’re able to meet with our "friends" and talk shop.
So, it makes sense to run this thing at the start of every week after collecting all of the smoke. With that said, we invite you, gentle reader, into our information humidor and smoke ‘em if you got ‘em. (Oh and I get this is a Tuesday, but humor a working man here.)
Quarterback Situation
This thing’s as confusing as Javaris Crittenton’s career pathing, unless you’ve been reading what we’ve been writing for the last six months. Back in the Spring we told you that Connor Wood was going to transfer when others out there were saying he’d compete for the starting job. As of today, we hear Connor has elected to transfer. We wish the young man a ton of luck wherever he goes. Hopefully he pulls a G.J. Kinne at CU.
And then there were three...
To give you a little background on the remaining three guys, the report from the Big Cigar hasn't really changed much other than becoming enamored by the upside of David Ash during two-a-days. Garrett Gilbert is the starter on the shortest of leashes, followed by Case McCoy as the direct backup, with David Ash getting two or three series a game with a special package of plays. We still don't think he redshirts.
Big Cigar told us yesterday that the coaches aren’t completely confident in any of the three so all three will be given an opportunity when the lights come on. If Garrett plays like a world beater then Case will bide his time with Ash coming in as a change of pace. If Gilbert falters, Case will get his chance to take the starter’s snaps while Ash will continue to come in to give the defense different looks, to the extent he plays well of course.
One other important note is the politics behind the scene. Two of the QB’s on the roster have fathers who are active in talking to the coaching staff about where they think their sons should fall in the pecking order. Our source tells us that this has grown tiresome and it’s one of the reasons Mack is trying to stay arm’s length from the decision, while putting the onus on Bryan Harsin—which we hear Harsin is fine with, by the way. Bryan Harsin has said all along that the best players will play and that goes for the QB position. As of yesterday, our source said he’d be shocked if two of the three quarterbacks didn’t get snaps against Rice despite what you may be hearing about Ash redshirting.
Realignment Update
We talked to the Big Cigar about the situation here and nothing has happened as of now that has soured him on the information he’s passed along. He reported that the penalty to withdraw for A&M would be between $20-$40 million, and reports are out there now indicating that the number is $28 million and would be paid in withdrawn TV revenue. Check. He reported that the going would get a lot easier for the Aggies once Texas placated Baylor’s litigious appetite with some assurances behind the scenes. All’s quiet on the lawsuit front after some furious bluster earlier in the month from our friends in Waco. Check. The drop dead date for the Aggies to leave without incurring further penalties was September 1st. We hear that’s a check as of yesterday.
So far the report has been eerily accurate despite what you may hear from other sources. The only hole in the information seems to be Notre Dame and BYU joining or affiliating with the conference in some form but don’t be fooled by preliminary reports. BYU and ND are still very much in play.
We’ve heard the only problem for both schools aligning with the Big 12 is the other sports scenarios in the short run. ND is kicking around the idea of coming as a football only affiliate and leaving basketball in the Big East. This creates a problem for the Big 12 because BYU wants to honor its other sport commitment to WCC for the next three years, leaving the Big 12 in lurch as far as hoops goes in the short term because they’ll be one team short. If there’s a Big East implosion, then all of these issues become moot because Texas, UND, and OU will just start picking the like-minded crème de la crème programs around the country, but that won’t happen this year.
In fact, none of this is going to happen overnight so ignore the AD’s and talking heads for now. BYU, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Texas are VERY much in this together and have been contingency planning for over a year. Stay tuned.
Long Term Outlook
When Will Muschamp took over as DC back in 2008 he was surprised by how few supremely talented athletes he had at his disposal when compared to what he had in the SEC. Now he did think the Texas kids were better at absorbing and processing information than their SEC counterparts, so he could put more on their plates, but there was a physical talent difference. I chalk it up to the abject failures that were the recruiting classes signed just after the National Championship season and I’m not alone in that thinking. We got complacent - no other way around it.
Fast forward to the 2011 season and we hear similar lamentations from the new coaches with a caveat. Word from our sources is that Harsin, Diaz, Searels, and Wyatt have all made negative comments about the EXPERIENCED talent of this Longhorn squad which is undoubtedly a function of two years of wandering through the talent evaluation wilderness of 2008 and 2009. But here’s the catch. Our Cigars tell us that Harsin, Diaz, and Searels have all made glowing comments about the 2011 class and to an extent the 2010 group.
(We also hear they’re blown away by the talent being stockpiled via the 2012 bunch. In fact, if you combine the current commits with the big game hunts the Horns are still involved with, this could rival any class Mack has signed since he’s been at Texas. You can read more about that on the Cosm.)
Harsin in particular has said that if they can get solid QB play the 2011 Horns will be creating the foundation for an explosive 2012 and run for a Championship in 2013. Stacey Searels, we’re told, likes the 2011 group of OL 1 through 5, which may come as a surprise to most recruiting pundits. Diaz LOVES his young front 7 and thinks the five young kids in the secondary are going to be special.
Mack Brown asks all of his assistants for a three year commitment even though contracts are renewed annually. If you’re on this staff, however, it would do your résumé some good to stay at least three years based on the young talent the Longhorns are amassing.
LHN
Word from El Cohiba Grande is that UVerse is about to drop. They have most of the plans worked out and AT&T should be onboard as a carrier sometime before kickoff on Saturday if ESPN comes off its ridiculously high number. Unfortunately for viewers, it's a game of chicken especially if ESPN doesn't come down a bit.
Season Outlook
I’ll leave you with this positive tidbit. The Big Cigar told us last spring that the staff thinks 8 wins for this bunch would be an accomplishment because they didn’t think they could count on consistent QB play. Here’s an update from the same source when asked about the staff’s thoughts going into Week 1.
“They still don’t know what they have as far as QB play, but manufacturing points with gadgets and scheme, as I told you before, should be a gold mine based on the surrounding offensive personnel. We’re going to run Wildcat—you’ll see the old Urban Meyer TE option, we’ll have wide receivers take direct snaps (freshman/maybe a sophomore) as well as a senior RB take a direct snap and zone read with a frosh RB, Monroe will be a pitch-man sometimes when he’s not jet-sweeping. “
“It’s going to be exciting and fresh. We’re going to have three tights in some looks, have four wides in others, have a power running game and a wide open spread passing attack all in the same game sometimes. You will not be able to pigeon hole us offensively. We’ll use these packages to create offense and take pressure off of the QB position. The most exciting thing is that there is no “book” on us anymore. You can’t go grab a 13 year tendency chart or guess with us on down and distance and field position based on decades of game film. There is no chart. You can’t pop in a tape of Boise and say, “Aha!” We’re not Boise. Our main problem is experience so a lot of kids will play and that goes for all positions.”
What about defense?
“Manny thinks he’s got an SEC type of front 7 and plenty of talent in the secondary. There will be growing pains in the secondary but he’s got just the right personnel to accomplish his stated goals—hit the QB and stop the running game. It’s tougher to do that with a good back 7 and a mediocre front 4. Plus, the secondary will be seasoned come November. He’s excited.”
So do you know if the staff has revised its expectations?
“They think 10 wins is a reasonable number.”
Ah, the over it is! I’m placing my bet now. I hope you enjoyed the first edition of Mondays in the Humidor here on this fine Tuesday just five days away from kickoff. Any thoughts or questions are welcome.
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So, assuming you are correct, just BYU and ND would be coming aboard? Are we sticking at 11?
by stinky pinky on Aug 30, 2011 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
I love all the Cigar talk…. almost as much as Clinton.
by laxtonto on Aug 30, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
awesome addition to this site, gonna be great all season with these
ten wins is a little ambitious to me, maybe ten with a bowl game victory
by eloy on Aug 30, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
Which bars in Houston carry U-Verse? I’ll see you there.
Exciting stuff, JS.
by jc25 on Aug 30, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
This is great freakin news JS; especially the U-verse announcement. Thanks for all you do.
Gun to your head…given a 10 win season, who are our losses? I would guess OU and Okie Lite, or do you think we drop one early to BYU or UCLA?
by Patrick on Aug 30, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
Great info especially with the article today that OU is getting “tired” of Texas. Didn’t believe it when I read it based on all the info you have provided.
On a better note, we are only four days away from kick-off, not five. Don’t think I could handle it if an additional day to wait was added.
by slab on Aug 30, 2011 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
Texas and OU should let the other 7 teams split the $28 million just to piss off the Aggies.
by Horncasting on Aug 30, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
In the short run it would be BYU and ND if they can find a solution to the other sports issue. UND doesn’t want to blow up the Big East by pulling basketball and BYU is bound by their contract with the WCC wrt other sports. IOW, the Big 12 needs a short term solution for hoops. Three or four years from now, there is no Big 12 so it won’t matter. It’ll be a superconference.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Aug 30, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
I love us – can’t f’ing wait for Saturday!
by DieHardHorns on Aug 30, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
I just read an article on Shaggy from the Tulsa World stating that the OU-UT relationship has become strained since the drama with A&M. There was also a quote in it from an unnamed source that UT is losing friends outside of the Big 12 because they are trying to play by a different set of rules than everyone else. Have you heard any of this or is this just more bulletin board material?
by Just Love Sports on Aug 30, 2011 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
Som bitch I’m ready for Saturday!! Any tailgate info available?
Piss on daddy McCoy and daddy Gilbert! If it were me and my daddy was the only thing keeping me atop the depth chart I would be pissed at them. Why does it matter If either one of them gets pissed?
by CFSV on Aug 30, 2011 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
Can’t f’ing wait! ……already smell the smoke, taste the beer and the butterflies flyin’ for Saturday morning tailgating!
by kanawa16 on Aug 30, 2011 3:22 PM CDT reply actions
I have to be honest here. I have an erection. Saturday cant get here soon enough
by BEW on Aug 30, 2011 3:23 PM CDT reply actions
Regarding 3 year commitments from assistants: how long do you think this staff stays together? I’d really like to see what these guys can do with a full recruiting cycle, but I doubt they’ll last that long (and Mack might be gone by then too).
by Simms to Gilbert on Aug 30, 2011 3:23 PM CDT reply actions
Interesting info on BBall holding things up. Great background shop talk.
Anyone know the story on Time Warner in Austin?
by Big Game Hunter on Aug 30, 2011 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
Very excited about this feature – Jesus continues to rain threes from the corner.
Also feeling better about my Texas +8.5 wins wager in Vegas from this weekend.
by nobis60 on Aug 30, 2011 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
I took an equity loan out on my John Deere and put it all on the Fighting Texas A&M Aggies over 11 wins. Whoop!
by Aggie Rick on Aug 30, 2011 3:39 PM CDT reply actions
Your comment about politics on the QB position says it all. I thought something smelled rotten
about the QB based on how the source showed Ash’s progress this past month. Harsin needs to
tell those dads to sit on the sidelines and SHUTUP. Harsin has nothing to lose and a lot of games to win. LET"S GO START ASH !!!!!!
by Texas Rebel on Aug 30, 2011 3:39 PM CDT reply actions
So, based on the LHN talk and lack of smoke for Dish or DirecTV, it sounds like I need to ditch my plans to go to Sam Rayburn and drive up to Austin instead.
Now, must convince Mrs. uthookem…
by uthookem on Aug 30, 2011 3:48 PM CDT reply actions
I think that BYU becoming a football member is likely, and in my opinion makes a bunch of sense for both sides. However, the idea of ND coming as football only really doesn’t make much sense to me. I don’t understand what they gain by playing locked-in games against Kansas State and Iowa State. In fact I’d say the other way around seems more logical (BYU as football member, ND as non-football member)
ND-Texas becoming an annual game, possible on Thanksgiving, seems like a decent bet..
If BYU and ND both join as football only members (which again I think is unlikely), Louisville or Pitt would be the obvious choice to round out the 10 team basketball league and provide a decent 12th footblal program.
My official guess is that we get BYU as a football member, who may or may not join up in the other sports after the contract with the WCC runs out. If we’re forced by the NCAA to pick up another basketball program we grab somebody ranging from Memphis to Wichita State to be a non-football member, but hold steady at 10 for football. Notre Dame becomes a fixture on the UT football schedule for the near future.
Of course the other possibility is that Missouri and/or Oklahoma make the jump and we just decide to end the Big 12…
by whereIend on Aug 30, 2011 3:50 PM CDT reply actions
Don’t need a tenth for basketball. It’d be nice if they came in, but the current nine is strong enough for basketball.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 30, 2011 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
I have no idea why hoops would be a problem in the short term.
9 teams means 16 games if you play everyone home and home.
In the big 12 we always played 16 games. What’s the issue? Doesn’t sound like their should be one.
By the way, A&M jumping to the SEC is messing up a good thing in hoops. We were going to have a rugged and fun hoops schedule getting rid of the welterweights in Neb and CU and going round robin with KU, KSU, OSU, Mizzou, A&M and even Tech, OU and ISU are not that far removed from having some very good teams. I was excited about hoops for this conference.
by Wulaw Horn on Aug 30, 2011 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
Where is the $28 million number coming from. Everything I’m seeing says it is going to be $15 million.
by Horncasting on Aug 30, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
Sorry to add- great stuff on everything else. A Big Cigar post and a Scipio SoTU post on the same day at work is awesome.
by Wulaw Horn on Aug 30, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
Okay, it’s lasted more than two hours. What do I do?
by ndawg on Aug 30, 2011 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
Horncasting -
28 million is per the contract penalty.
15 million is more likely given the precedent set by what was extracted from CU and NU.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 30, 2011 4:02 PM CDT reply actions
Scipio – this is from a NY Times Article.
“the Big 12 bylaws state that the Aggies would have to pay 90 percent of this season’s revenue, which would put them in the neighborhood of $14 million”
I don’t see how this jibes with saying the contract is $28 million.
by Horncasting on Aug 30, 2011 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
I 2nd the question about TIme Warner and the LHN.
Otherwise, thanks as always for the information. It’s the best in the world.
by Monahorns on Aug 30, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions
10 wins?
$28 million penalty?
ND to the Big 12 for football?
Much as I’d like all of the above to happen, I have to ask: Is that cigar filled with peyote?
by Bobby Jack Akina on Aug 30, 2011 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
Please, please Jesus. Sweet, sweet, little baby Jesus watching your Baby Einstein videos…
Ask the cigar to put pressure on the powers that be at ESPN to STREAM the Rice game. With all the practice reports, asset reports, etc (not to mention the natural anticipation coming off of last year’s debacle), the prospect of not actually being able to watch the game this Saturday is extremely painful. I would frankly argue that a network like this, that is highly relevant to a subset of people scattered all over the world is the perfect opportunity to deliver content in a 21st century way, and leave the MsO model behind altogether. But, even if ESPN continues to insist on playing MSO chicken, and if TWCable and DirectTV don’t step up this week, please at least provide an on-demand stream of the Rice game.
by TX2Step on Aug 30, 2011 4:13 PM CDT reply actions
Horncasting -
http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-bylaws-on-leaving-.php
you’re supposed to give two years notice on withdrawal.
“if a member gives proper notice of two years, 50% of two year revenue” = $14.5 million (that’s 50% of two year revenues)
“if Notice is received less than two years but on or before eighteen months prior to the Effective Date, 70%;” = $20.3 million
“if Notice is received less than eighteen months but on or before twelve months prior to the Effective Date, 80%;” = $23.2 million
“if Notice is received less than twelve months but on or before six months prior to the Effective Date, 90%”; = $26.1 million
“or if Notice is received less than six months prior to the Effective Date, 100%” = $29 million
Obviously, if A&M is smart, they’ll try to ensure that an entity called The Big 12 no longer exists after the 2011 season.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 30, 2011 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
some yeh-who on 247 has a running thread saying aggy is staying due in large part to ND and BYU coming on board.
this stuff is getting tiresome…
by Big Ern on Aug 30, 2011 4:19 PM CDT reply actions
Texas, UND, and OU will just start picking the like-minded crème de la crème programs around the country
Sorry, Jesus, but I don’t believe. The identity of the other crème de la crème programs are TIED TO their respective conference memberships. Unlike seemingly everyone in the Big 12, they actually like, no LOVE, their conferences. They’re not giving up a 100 years or so of history.
Plus, as long as the BCS has a special rule for ND, I don’t see them ever joining a conference for FB.
by Joetx on Aug 30, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
PB stood on his desk shouting “NO” about ND to the Big 12 last week, and gave some pretty compelling arguments. What changed (if anything)?
by JoeT63 on Aug 30, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks for the info, and great to hear Uverse is finally seeing the burnt orange light.
by lilpenny on Aug 30, 2011 4:25 PM CDT reply actions
Two of the QB’s on the roster have fathers who are active in talking to the coaching staff about where they think their sons should fall in the pecking order. Our source tells us that this has grown tiresome and it’s one of the reasons Mack is trying to stay arm’s length from the decision, while putting the onus on Bryan Harsin
So, at least when it comes to QBs, New Mack = Old Mack, except he’s directing calls to Harsin?
by Joetx on Aug 30, 2011 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
Just to be clear, Uverse has NOT reached a deal yet. This game of chicken could go on past Saturday. There is a real chance that the game may not be televised by any of the big three. Direct TV issued a terse, today, saying they wouldn’t carry because ESPN wants too much $$$. It may just be a negotiating ploy. Interesting times in TV/Sports arena….stay tuned.
by El Cohiba Grande on Aug 30, 2011 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
That doesn’t sound like a ploy, but it does sound like negotiating.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 30, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions
I am mentally jumping up and down while squealing with delight. I’d do that physically, but people are studying around me, and I don’t think they would appreciate that.
Thanks so much for the info. This stuff is the only thing that keeps me sane when I see all my aggie friends gloating and high-stepping about regarding the SEC. They are so clueless.
by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Aug 30, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions
I knew the cautious optimism would wear off eventually. with all the talent we have across the board (except maybe at qb) i’ve had a feeling ever since reading about summer workouts on the ‘Cosm that we could be a legit 10 win team. If the QBs play well, i could honestly see us winning every game except OU. Then again, we lost to OU by EIGHT points last year, had a chance to recover a fumble deep in their territory in the 4th qtr, and muffed a punt in the last minute. And we outscored them in the 2nd half. Anything could happen. If we can cover Blackmon effectively, i think we get OSU by 20. I’ll worry about a&m when it gets closer as you never know what kind of season they’ll have.
…….there, i said it. Thanks for the info brochachos
by Pitt on Aug 30, 2011 4:43 PM CDT reply actions
A&M is going to pay around $15 million which will be withheld from the $20 million in tv revenue the Ags were to receive this year. Big donors will pay the athletic department back the $15 million.
With Gilbert at QB and ur OL, 6-8 wins looks about right.
by miketag on Aug 30, 2011 4:47 PM CDT reply actions
By the way, the El Cohiba Grande above, is one of the real El Cohiba Grandes. He’s basically getting up to the minute negotiation information.
Thanks to all for the kind words.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Aug 30, 2011 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
Miketag, what would you like to wager? I’ll take 8 and over you can have 7 and under. $500 to our favorite charity?
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Aug 30, 2011 4:54 PM CDT reply actions
“Big donors will pay the athletic department back the $15 million.”
Or more likely they’ll just borrow more money from the school’s general fund.
by burrito on Aug 30, 2011 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Miketag, I win, you pay for our Bonedaddy’s tailgate girls all season. If you win, I’ll pay for our Bonedaddy’s tailgate girls all season.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Aug 30, 2011 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Jevan Snead redux. Last I heard he was cut from the Tampa Bay… er, Storm.
David Ash getting two or three series a game with a special package of playsDespite the daunting potential for “that’s what she said” rejoinders, I am tired of hearing Bellmont talk about David Ash’s package. Just play the son of a gun.
We’ve heard the only problem for both schools aligning with the Big 12 is the other sports scenarios in the short run.That and the infinitesimal probability that Notre Dame will ever condescend to so much as spit on the Big XII’s shadow.
Also, for A&M to find its way to the SEC won’t it be necessary for the Aggies first to find their way out of the paper bag? And that has yet ever to occur in my lifetime.
"They think 10 wins is a reasonable number."Sheeeeiiiitttt. If Texas wins ten in 2011, I will eat a Salvation Pizza.
by Louis L'am Jones on Aug 30, 2011 5:14 PM CDT reply actions
Notre Dame pulling out of the Big East won’t do anything to the league. They are the best basketball conference in the nation and have 17 teams with TCU coming in next year so they’ll be just fine.
Not saying they aren’t somewhat interested in all this but blaming it on “other sports” is not plausible. The big east doesn’t need them for anything since football is the only sport that would collapse the conference.
by biznesstime on Aug 30, 2011 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks for all the insight. I wonder if Time Warner will be an in stadium or scoreboard sponsor for Rice if the LHN deal doesn’t get done.
I like the optimism and you don’t get anywhere with out expecting to be there, but I need to put my fingers in the holes to believe.
by ultralight on Aug 30, 2011 5:17 PM CDT reply actions
JS, I think your median is 8 wins. 9 is over achieving, 7 is under.
by KilgoreTrout on Aug 30, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
I think your median is 8 wins. 9 is over achieving, 7 is under
Who are the other three losses?
by Tex Long on Aug 30, 2011 5:27 PM CDT reply actions
@miketag: “Big donors will pay the athletic department back the $15 million.”
You mean a $15 million interest-free loan? I think that’s a previously-used Aggie financial instrument no?
by pleaseplaykindle on Aug 30, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
And what’s your line as of today for The Last Thanksgiving?
by Tex Long on Aug 30, 2011 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
Frankly, I think they could lose any game after Rice if they don’t bring something. Well, maybe except Kansas. I mean, I was at the Iowa State game last year.
They are in no position to count gimmes.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 30, 2011 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
excellent stuff. much appreciated.
very pleased that coheeb saw fit to interact directly.
by yeh on Aug 30, 2011 5:33 PM CDT reply actions
LHN is broadcasting right now on Verizon FiOS! Watching and fighting back tears of joy…
by Orangeblood on Aug 30, 2011 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
And what’s your line as of today for The Last Thanksgiving?
Sportsbook.com says A&M by 4.5.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 30, 2011 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
10 wins!! 10 wins!! 10 wins!! Oops, I just went in my pants.
by Texan323 on Aug 30, 2011 5:48 PM CDT reply actions
I got Texas +5 on T-Day in Vegas this weekend – that’ll likely be down to +2.5 the week of the game.
by nobis60 on Aug 30, 2011 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone know what FiOS customers outside of TX need to do to get LHN?
by nd on Aug 30, 2011 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
10 wins, $28 million and the Oklahoma leadership is happy with the Texas leadership.
I’ll take two of what you’re having good sir.
by bizzle on Aug 30, 2011 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone know what FiOS customers outside of TX need to do to get LHN?
Tune to channel 320.
by Huckleberry on Aug 30, 2011 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
It would be nice for Uverse to have the network already running before the Rice game so I can DVR it. I’m afraid I might miss a little being at my boys game. Hopefully it won’t be a problem.
by Team Dirty Leg on Aug 30, 2011 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
Don’t have the Ultimate HD package. But I’ll upgrade if I have to.
by nd on Aug 30, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions
Jesus, any truth to the rumor that Dan Hawkins is swinging by practices to offer suggestions on ironing out the nuances of his system?
by dedfischer on Aug 30, 2011 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
“We also hear they’re blown away by the talent being stockpiled via the 2012 bunch.”
I hope they are right, but the defensive side doesn’t seem as strong as the last couple.
Great info. in this feature…much appreciated.
by sunset on Aug 30, 2011 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
Bonedaddys girls… man, I have been at the wrong tailgates.
by cpamra on Aug 30, 2011 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
PB stood on his desk shouting "NO" about ND to the Big 12 last week, and gave some pretty compelling arguments. What changed (if anything)?
I’m sure it should be obvious, but who is PB?
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Aug 30, 2011 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
Just watched an “All Access” segment on LHN. They interviewed a couple OU players and showed a bit of footage of the OU locker room and practice. I guess our AD’s really are on good terms.
by Orangeblood on Aug 30, 2011 6:38 PM CDT reply actions
“In the big 12 we always played 16 games. What’s the issue? Doesn’t sound like their should be one.”
Please do not post if you do not know the difference between “there” and “their.”
by Zzzizzzy on Aug 30, 2011 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Jesus, I must confess, today I looked with lust upon a woman.
Jesus, I must confess, you’re one hell of a writer brother, keep it coming…
by Longhorn Fanatico on Aug 30, 2011 6:47 PM CDT reply actions
Great update Jesus!!
Thanks for this!! I really do hope BYU comes to the Big 12, we will need them if this leagues is to survive more than a year.
The best part about this post for me:
1)Texas, Byu, ND, and Ou are in together and hopefully will all be in one superconf one day!!
2)10 wins, we may not get there but i want the confidence.
5-7 is the best thing that happened to UT last year. We lost 2 games on fumbled punts, and were in 2 others till the very end. We have a pretty easy schedule for being Texas! 8-4 minimum, even with shakey QB play!
Hook’em!!!
by thecontractor on Aug 30, 2011 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
@ Nunna Yo
PB is Peter Bean, the excellent editor of Burnt Orange Nation. I’m pretty sure he is going to law school at Notre Dame, if not around the area
by Rusty Shackelford on Aug 30, 2011 7:58 PM CDT reply actions
Love the new feature JS. Excellent article.
by billfromlaketravis on Aug 30, 2011 7:58 PM CDT reply actions
I dont think Ash plays a down this year. If the running game is clicking we dont need him. A year as a redshirt playing with the scout team and holding the clipboard do wonders for a QB, Just ask VY and Colt. This Arizona QB coming in next year got the smile wiped off his face the first game of this season. Im not sure he is what people hope he is. May take some time, Better to have Ash grouped with him, Just in case.
by MONTY on Aug 30, 2011 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
Nunna:
PB is Peter Bean over at Burnt Orange Nation.
Couple of observations on Peter’s take: First, Peter isn’t the kind to shoot his mouth off frivolously. As most of you know who read UT related sites, the dude is well-informed and measured in his opinions. For this reason, I’ll be watching developments with ND with interest because so far Jesus’s sources have been spot on as well. Second, Peter is not the only informed person on the interwebs who said "no way, no how" to ND joining the Big 12. Of course, there are other ways in which UT and ND can align, so however it spins out, it makes for interesting watching.
by TKO on Aug 30, 2011 8:24 PM CDT reply actions
The inevitable Hitler rant on A&M to the SEC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsjhgE9CK4Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
by Kilgore Trout on Aug 30, 2011 8:28 PM CDT reply actions
we could just open with a modified Q-package and have ALL THREE quarterbacks out there for the first snap. But maybe saving that for UCLA or Mizzou makes more sense.
by edsp on Aug 30, 2011 8:40 PM CDT reply actions
Scipio and/or Jesus,
Love the reporting and analysis. Need your insight on why any BCS aligned school (even Big East) would consider a move to the Big Re-org, which has the least assured path forward.
What assurances would be requested? What could be offered?
If Big 10, SEC or ACC offered Pitt, WVU or Louisville, I think they would jump. Hard to figure the justification for a Big 12-2-1 move for these teams.
For ND, what would “a football only affiliate” look like? They don’t need to recruit Kansas, Iowa, Oklahoma, so I have a hard time imagining a schedule that would be attractive beyond Texas and a neutral site OU game in a big city.
Any insight appreciated.
by Sleepless in See-arels on Aug 30, 2011 9:10 PM CDT reply actions
I was so stupid as to say I thought the OL looked better in the spring game than it had been looking and everyone said I was crazy. (I was impressed by a few of the running plays, linemen pulling, looking like they were figuring out what to do.) And after reading about all the workouts, changes in conditioning etc I’m thinking, “Why not win them all? At least 10. We are the biggest sleeper in college football this year.” Now the staff says 10 and I say, just what I was thinking. Oh yeah, the OL sounds like it is a lot better.
My official prediction is 11. Don’t bother telling me I’m crazy. I already know that.
by jerryw on Aug 30, 2011 9:39 PM CDT reply actions
Thank you, Jesus, for this new series. I really appreciate the info coming from Cohiba Grande(s). Although I am a non-smoker, this “second-hand” smoke is really, really good.
Since GG is starting on Saturday, who do you think will be the second player to take a snap from the center (not including field goals, extra points, or punts) Case, David Ash, Mykelle Thompson, Fozzy, DJ Monroe, or Malcolm Brown?
by UTRico on Aug 30, 2011 9:51 PM CDT reply actions
I think the talk of lack of talent is a bit of if its my guy he’s good and if its the other guys guy he isn’t that talented. I mean really Bryan Harisin thinks that the athletes he had at boise are better that the talent on the Texas squad. Diaz was at Mississippi State they don’t seem to be a NFL pipeline. I think the talent is there they just haven’t been coached up and hopefully these new coaches can change that.
by flash on Aug 30, 2011 9:52 PM CDT reply actions
dedfischer: “…Dan Hawkins is swinging by practices to offer suggestions on ironing out the nuances of his system?”
I don’t think of Boise’s offensive success in the last decade and change as being from one constant system, but if you do, it didn’t spring fully developed from Hawkins. I think there was a lot of baton passing over the years.
As I recall, Dirk Koetter didn’t name a replacement at offensive coordinator when Brent Myers left for the PAC-10. Given it is Koetter’s background, I assume he took it on himself, but perhaps the duties were shared amongst the staff. Hawkins was tight ends, special teams, and assistant head coach. When Hawkins was named head coach, he hired Chris Petersen to fill the void left by the departing Koetter. Harsin got the offensive graduate assistant position the same year.
Before Koetter the head coach was Houston Nutt, so offensive similarities from that regime to today’s Boise program would be tenuous. The receivers coach was retained by Koetter though, so not a complete break from the past.
Another fine report, anonymous tobacco product and character played by Ray Allen.
by Saul on Aug 30, 2011 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
Also how is Ash all of sudden number 3. All the talk for sometime was that Ash is a bad ass and may be the starter I don’t remember reading a lot buzz about McCoy and now he’s the backup. Sounds like Mack still likes experience first and foremost
by flash on Aug 30, 2011 9:57 PM CDT reply actions
10 wins is overly optimistic, and I just don’t see it. We have too many question marks, and those question marks are in key places. It’s not as if we have issues in the kicking game and TE. We’ll be 8-4, and that’s a good year (by aggie standards that’s worthy of a national championship) . We’ll be in the National Championship next year. We are bulding a dynasty. Patience is a virtue.
ND is not coming to Big 12. ND will not play Okie Lite, K. State, Baylor, Tech and Iowa State. That’s just not them.
I can’t wait to see this team in action. It’ll be fun.
by leovilla on Aug 30, 2011 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
It’s not a stretch to see the JS theory at work when you consider the numerous times we already have BYU & Notre Dame scheduled.
BYU: 2011, 2013 ,2014
Notre Dame: 2015, 2016, 2019, 2020
Hey JS I’m still waiting on your phone call regarding the Albania stock swap.
by JET on Aug 30, 2011 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
Book it. UT beats A&M on T-Day for a conference title and chance to play Vandy in MNC game.
by bevosbackside on Aug 30, 2011 10:35 PM CDT reply actions
News flash: Will Lyles accompany Connor Woods with dad to LSU as compensation for monies previously paid by Woods dad for one of Lyles “kids” summer tutoring…….. jest kidding folks.
not,
no really, just kidding.
by JET on Aug 30, 2011 10:42 PM CDT reply actions
What happened to miketag? Trollin’ get too serious for ya?
by Biggity on Aug 30, 2011 10:53 PM CDT reply actions
“Where is the $28 million number coming from. Everything I’m seeing says it is going to be $15 million.”
As I’ve posted several times, this is the invoice the Big 12 office has presented to Aggy to leave. This comes from an unimpeachable source (believe it or don’t). There is no inclination by anyone in the conference to negotiate with them after they took the extra cash from Corn and Ski and have pretty much shit all over the carpet on their way out a year after promising to stay for the long haul. If they don’t get their shit worked out, there is no offer from the SEC. They have no leverage and have made enemies.That’s where things stand right now, but things can change.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 30, 2011 11:46 PM CDT reply actions
If I didn’t make it clear, the invoice is for 28—-not 15.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 30, 2011 11:46 PM CDT reply actions
I’m hearing the same thing Jake is hearing. $28 mil penalty. There’s also a decent chance the Ags may want a do-over if they think UND is coming or if Baylor goes for their pound of flesh or both.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Aug 30, 2011 11:57 PM CDT reply actions
And the source is from very high up in the Big 12 office with no academic ties to any school in the Big 12. Colorado was flat broke when they pulled out and had to be let off the hook vis a vis the contractual fee, which led to NU getting a lower number as well. There is absolutely no sentiment for that being a precedent for Aggy even though some of their fans/boosters seem to think it is.
Miketag again seems to be making a distinction between money being taken out of Aggy’s paychecks and them writing a check. You know, sort of like, “well if the IRS garnishes my wages, I won’t miss it because I never did get it.” And any money that will come from boosters will be money they would have given that Aggy now won’t get to keep, so that’s at best a zero sum game and in substance a loss.
You really couldn’t make this shit up.
I guess there’s difference between being good at engineering and being good at math.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 31, 2011 12:06 AM CDT reply actions
JS/Jake – I didn’t mean to come off as questioning your sources, just trying to figure out where the $28 million figure was coming from. JS said it was being reported that the number was $28….everything from the NYT, to the local papers to the scrolling bar on ESPN has been consistent with $15. His tone also made it seem like it was a sure fire done deal.
by Horncasting on Aug 31, 2011 12:44 AM CDT reply actions
Speaking for myself, I didn’t take it that way bro, and sorry if it came across that way. Even though I quoted your question, which was valid, my response was as much to miketag as anyone and I wanted to get out there what the current situation is with the Big 12 office and the other members of the league. Now does that mean they all now love us? Well, no. But anyone who thinks every team in the conference isn’t really pissed off at Aggy right now is delusional.
As to the $15/28 million discrepancy itself, Scipio gave you a link to the contractual detail in a post above but the number at this moment in time is a solid $28 million. Also, keep in mind that neither CU nor NU are located in the State of Texas. Aggy getting any kind of special deal by definition hurts the Texas schools financially, two of which are publicly funded and the third of which has some seriously rich and powerful “friends at the State Capitol” and you only have to read Colorado Ag’s SOTU on BU to reaffirm the animosity between the two. This is not comparable to the departure of CU and NU. Aggy wishes it were and the national press doesn’t know any better than to think so. As I said, things may change tomorrow, but right now they haven’t.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 31, 2011 1:03 AM CDT reply actions
Sasha: you’re killin me when you talk this way.
you remind me of this 30 year dog luvin redhead from a few years ago at a Texans game (27/28 back then) that hung out in one of he suites
by JET on Aug 31, 2011 2:18 AM CDT reply actions
Aggie is long gone folks… their ego and deep pocket alumni won’t let em turn back now.
Only way I see them staying is if the politicians get involved.
It will be a formality before their Sunday kickoff.
by JET on Aug 31, 2011 2:24 AM CDT reply actions
I thought Hawkins was on campus to help with the QB daddy’s and who should be starting.
by ethorn on Aug 31, 2011 4:24 AM CDT reply actions
Thanks for the interesting read – but are you trying to tell me that Muschamp was disappointed with his talent when he had top shelf picks ET, Orakpo, Kindle, Lamarr Houston, Aaron Williams, Curtis Brown, and Roy Miller? Mid picks in Chykie, Muckleroy, Acho? Give me a break. I get it, you like Ash and the current coaches. But to say that we did not recruit from 2005 to our MNC runner up is just asinine.
by realmccoy on Aug 31, 2011 7:39 AM CDT reply actions
There is no doubt that they’re (A&M) protecting what they perceive to be their own self interests in moving to the SEC. Good enough for you ZZZZZ- do I pass? Can I keep posting here?
by Wulaw Horn on Aug 31, 2011 8:27 AM CDT reply actions
A&M is not paying, or having withheld, $28 million dollars from the Big12. That’s just flat out laughable. Yearly revenues for the Big12 for any team won’t approach that amount EVER, even if it does survive long enough for ESPN to rape it in contract negotiations to the betterment of the longhorns and your network.
$15 mill is the absolute highest real penalty the Ags will see, realistically, and the real number is closer to 12. The “invoice” might state $28 million, but the only way it says that is by counting the next 2 years of revenue as withheld… which quite frankly, who the f’ from A&M cares about next year’s revenues from the Big12, they’ll be pulling down a larger check from the SEC next year.
As for the Longhorn 9, watch-out, you may not get enough time to get BYU or ND figured out (even if ND was even the slightest bit better than a HUGE long-shot to join in any fashion). Larry Scott isn’t going to sit around while the SEC goes to 14/16, and OU/OSU are at the top of his list for expansion, with or without the Longhorns.
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 10:43 AM CDT reply actions
What leverage does A&M have to force the B12 to act? SEC wants a clean applicant — not one battling its former partners in court.
Where the B12 probably wasn’t interested in squeezing blood from the Colorado turnip and let Nebraska go, it might well decide to pay the lawyers this time.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 31, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions
Skeebo, yeah, Texas, the most visible and valuable college athletic property is going to get left out. We should try to get into the Southland Conference asap.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Aug 31, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions
JS, never said they’d be left out. Most likely you’ll end up heading to the PAC with OU & OSU, it is what you guys wanted in the first place.
But if you sit around complacent you may end up riding herd in a Big12 that doesn’t include OU, OSU, or Missouri.
Best to be hoppin’, time’s a’wastin’, and you may need to re-evaluate the structure of the LHN and your deal with ESPN in order to protect your brand’s long term value.
Bob… isn’t that the question? :) Big 12 and A&M already agreed to set aside all lawsuits. There will be zero days in court over this. This shit is over and done with.
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 1:21 PM CDT reply actions
Oh, almost forgot… Y’all still have the Independence clause in the LHN, so if no one will take you you’ve always got Independence.
Independence is probably the best path to actually getting someone to carry the LHN anyway.
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions
It’s kind of funny how this is all gonna work out. If Aggie gets into SEC, that same year UT will play at Ole Miss setting the standard for how Texas teams should play against SEC teams. Once again setting an unattainable bar for Aggies to look up at as they saunter under.
by Biggity on Aug 31, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Big 12 and A&M already agreed to set aside all lawsuits.
Sez who? I’ll take just about anything as evidence.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 31, 2011 1:59 PM CDT reply actions
Says who? And what? The exit fees? Catch up, those were finalized Monday when the Big12 representatives for OU and Missouri were in CS.
Oh, you meant the legal games? You and your source are uniformed. FOIA is a bitch when you aren’t playing honest with your “partners”.
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 2:02 PM CDT reply actions
Bob, in the letter A&M received from the Big12 over the weekend outlining the exit proceedings
the letter “outlines the withdrawal procedures according to the financial provisions of the Big 12 bylaws and mutual waivers of legal claims.”
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 2:04 PM CDT reply actions
That wasn’t a final agreement. That was a league statement of what was required. “Tell us you’re leaving, pay the liquidated damages outlined in the bylaws, mutual releases, we’re done.”
That doesn’t mean that A&M agreed to the terms. All they’ve done is the first step.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 31, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions
Bob, A&M is all but out the door. If you think those terms haven’t been finalized already then you have never ever been involved in any negotiations.
Hell, most of these terms were finalized before we sent the letter last week. You don’t seriously think that A&M and the Big12 have been sitting on their hands doing nothing up until the letter was sent, do you?
All that has been left for about a week and a half now is the formalized process of exiting the Big12 and joining the SEC handled in such a manner as to not appeared rushed in any way.
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 2:31 PM CDT reply actions
JS:
Thanks, I needed that. Looking forward to Saturday.
by DHorn on Aug 31, 2011 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
Skeebo said: August 31st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Says who? And what? The exit fees? Catch up, those were finalized Monday when the Big12 representatives for OU and Missouri were in CS.
Oh, you meant the legal games? You and your source are uniformed. FOIA is a bitch when you aren’t playing honest with your "partners".
And you know this how?
by Frank the Plank on Aug 31, 2011 3:10 PM CDT reply actions
Skeebo said: August 31st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Bob, A&M is all but out the door. If you think those terms haven’t been finalized already then you have never ever been involved in any negotiations.
Hell, most of these terms were finalized before we sent the letter last week. You don’t seriously think that A&M and the Big12 have been sitting on their hands doing nothing up until the letter was sent, do you?
All that has been left for about a week and a half now is the formalized process of exiting the Big12 and joining the SEC handled in such a manner as to not appeared rushed in any way.
Again, you know this how?
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 31, 2011 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
I’m sure they’ve been “what-iffing” for some time.
What I’ve said was that if the B12 wanted to gum up the works for A&M, they easily could do it, and there’s no particular reason not to, other than good will — which A&M did not show when it basically said, we had our fingers crossed when we said we’d stay in the B12.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 31, 2011 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
You guys want a dosier of how I know and understand what is going on?
Wow… did realize we had such internet babes on this blog.
You guys don’t want to believe me, fine, i don’t care. Just watch. Ain’t anything different than what you’re going to be doing anyway.
There will be no legal battles, there will be no serious funding attacks, and the penalty will NOT be north of 15 mill.
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
Bob he is pretty accurate that the deal has been framed for at least two weeks. He is very wrong about the amount it will cost Aggy, which is $28 million, give or take a million or two.
At least half of that cost is them relinquishing what they were promised when they lied with their fingers crossed. That hasn’t been paid to them and won’t be, in addition to what will be withheld from this year. But according to Aggy math that doesn’t count since they didn’t have it yet anyway.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 31, 2011 3:48 PM CDT reply actions
Skeebo said: August 31st, 2011 at 1:46 pm
“You guys want a dosier of how I know and understand what is going on?
Wow… did realize we had such internet babes on this blog."
So your garbled answer is you don’t really know. I’m shocked. And I believe the correct spelling is “dossier” which we weren’t asking for at all. Just some minor hint that you are actually informed instead of just being another windbag Aggy troll.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 31, 2011 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
http://www.chron.com/sports/college/article/A-M-expects-20-million-annually-from-Big-12-1704463.php
Jake, I don’t think that’s right. Per the link, the CU and NU penalty went into a kitty to ensure TAMU got its $20 million, starting this year. I think the idea was that they were projected to get $18 – 20 million, and this fund would make sure they got that this year.
I am curious, though, as to why Loftin’s letter talks about the exit fees as if they were still tbd. I’m guessing that (pure speculation) that the Big 12 said “$28 million to get our release”, but the guidelines have an arbitration procedure, and the Ags expect an arbitrator to assign a lower number. Just speculating.
by TaylorTRoom on Aug 31, 2011 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
The key to that is “starting this year” which means they don’t have it yet and aren’t going to get it, or at least not nearly alll of it. The Big 12 effectively has custody of that money.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 31, 2011 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
Also, if they are in the position of having this being decided by an arbitrator, which I don’t think is tha case, then they are really flying blind.
by Jake Lonergan on Aug 31, 2011 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Jake, Skeebo:
I get it: They’ve been hammering for sometime. But it seems there is a dispute over the most important detail. The Big 12 is going retail. The Aggies have the discount they want in mind.
Is that not a big deal? Seems like it would be to me.
FWIW, I have posted for a couple of weeks that I thought they’d get away at 15. But I think Taylor/Jake are right… if they withhold 90 percent of this year (or all of it), that’s gonna be more than 15.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 31, 2011 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
I also gotta say — the number of people who say they know what is going on on this deal is incalculable.
Since I don’t know the inside story, I might be in the minority.
by Bob in Houston on Aug 31, 2011 4:48 PM CDT reply actions
I guess there’s difference between being good at engineering and being good at math.
Here, let me fix that fer ya:
I guess there’s difference between being good at meat judging and being good at math.
by Tex Long on Aug 31, 2011 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
Oh no, I’ve been grammar nazi’ed… what-ever am I to do now?
Like I said, you don’t want to believe me fine, sit on the sidelines and watch. No legal battles, no funding attacks, no penalty north of 15 Mill.
Hell, at this point it is possibly starting to look like there won’t be any penalties at all. What’s the Big12 going to look like without OU, OSU, or Missouri?
by Skeebo on Aug 31, 2011 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
Bob, I am not insider by any stretch of the imagination. But in this case I just happen to have a good friend who is as inside as it gets.
I haven’t been posting my opinion—-only what I was told was happening as of early Monday morning. Skeboo, who appears to me prescient, scoffs at any inquiries as to where his info might be coming fron, so I have no alternatibe than to believe it’s just his opinion based on what he reads. Until he tells me otherwise or I get new info, which may or may not be forthcoming, I’m standing pat .
I can tell you with certainty that the $28 million has been out there during the time he says things had already been wrapped up.
by Jake Lonergan on Sep 1, 2011 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
Not questioning you or anybody else who claims to know something…. just that there are a lot of people doing it on this one.
I’m also convinced that the deal is not done.
by Bob in Houston on Sep 1, 2011 11:27 AM CDT reply actions
*alterntable =alternative
I’d say *alterntable =diskdrive
by It's the Hat on Sep 1, 2011 11:28 AM CDT reply actions
Agree with Bob on this one on both fronts. I am pretty sure nothing is entirely done – that is not to say that I think A&M is not gone, just that until the ink is dry on the SEC deal and all parties have announced what the exit penalties will be, none of us know with any certainty where things stand.
Part of the problem with all these realignment talks are that a lot of people do probably have good sources. But those sources have info from one side of the table. Aggy sources/ Big 12 sources/ UT sources/ SEC sources all are likely to see this from different angles and have different info.
The Statesman article that ran last year that had the in-depth interview with Bill Powers on how the PAC discussions went was pretty informative in how these things are likely playing out. He said nobody besides Deloss, Plonsky and himself were in the loop – they did not discuss their thinking with boosters, alumni groups or even the conference commissioners.
by Big Ern on Sep 1, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions
Bob, I didn’t take your post as disagreement at all and, you and Big Ern may well be right that things may change. FWIW, my info came from a very, very high up person in the Big 12 office during a face to face conversation in Las Colinas late Sunday before I drove back to Lake LBJ. It was consistent with what he had told me two weeks ago, and I had posted the number a couple of times before. He definitely isn’t on the side of any school, having graduated from a non Big 12 school, and he is directly involved in producing all of the financial info. Neither Aggy nor the Big 12 had signed anything when we last spoke although they may have an agreement in principle. We’ll see how it plays out. Again, I’m no insider big wig—-far from it. This just happens to be someone I’ve known for a very long time and I’m in a “don’t call me, I’ll call you” situation with him. So whatever I have/had is now four days old but, interestingly enough, it aligns with what JS was told on Monday.
But hey, Skeebo and Kirk Bohls say there will be no Big 12 by October, so there you are.
by Frank the Plank on Sep 1, 2011 1:47 PM CDT reply actions
Sorry, I forgot to sign in before I poted the above.
by Jake Lonergan on Sep 1, 2011 1:50 PM CDT reply actions
Proof-reading’s a bitch… I’m trying to give it up, as long as the communication takes place – I try to correct outright gaffes but let typos slide. Texting is also making me lean toward giving up spelling and punctuation to a large extent, particularly with a phone-pad where you have to hit the 4 key three times to get an “i”…
by Tex Long on Sep 1, 2011 2:24 PM CDT reply actions
Cohiba – What gives. Any word on when Uverse is going to get er done with the Longhorn Network?
Gotta think A&M bolting made cable co’s hit the pause button. How about offering 1 -2 year deal for LHN till conference realignment gets figured out. My wife may beat me like a drum if she does not get to see the Longhorns tomorrow.
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