LHN Help Line

My resentment is now beyond the smoldering stage – I have to go to KATY, for God’s sake, to see the game? And to a grill or a WINE bar?

Oh, I love LHN for sure. This year I could have seen every damned game on TV were it not for LHN.

I’m going to go ahead and assume alums* in the upper midwest are screwed. I know srr said these negotiations always go until the last second but just in case, someone’s going to stream it on justin or somewhere, right? Right?

*Yes, joetx, i said alums

3rd Base in Austin

Dallas- the best i can offer is that verison fios is present in plano and carrolton, so sports bars in those areas may be worth checking

assuming we’re screwed here in Charlotte, NC

Jake’s Grill at Blackhorse for Houston. They have 9 TVs.

KATY? We’ll have to travel 1100 miles! Guess it’s screw Texas fans (Exes) who live outside “the area”. Seems like this should have been thought of during the years of preparing for this! This is bush league!! And, yes upper midwest IS screwed. I’m in Cincinnati

Dallas area: Scorz in Highland Village has Verizon and will have the game. I would rather not drive halfway to Oklahoma but until I hear of something closer..

Pretty sure it’s going to be Fox and Hound in Fort Worth if Boomer Jacks can’t get the game.

I think tens of hundreds is bit too high, I’m thinking about getting up a game of two-handed touch if anybody’s interested

CW I’m in Charlotte as well and Direct TV informed me multiple times that we are shit outta luck. I’m hoping to find some bootleg broadcast on the interwebs. I want to punch Matthew Mcconaughey in the face.

I am assuming since I live in College Station I am more screwed than usual.

There’s a certain freedom in being completely screwed… low expectations are the norm for anyone living here with more than three working brain cells (we’re a lonely crowd, I admit).

On the other hand, there is a thread on TexAgs right now full of folk threatening to dump Suddenlink because they are in negotiations with LHN.

Time Warner will have it Saturday morning.

It seems like ESPN could put the game on one of their many alternate stations to show the country what the LHN looks like. And earn some major props with Texas fans as well.

Is there also a LHN Suicide Hotline I can call?

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Why the hell doesn’t ESPN use their 360.com infrastructure and stream it onto the LHN website? This isn’t tough to figure out, people.

Beaumont…you gotta be kidding me.

I knew I made a good decision when I got Verizon FIOS. LHN in HD, no less!

Someone will stream it online illegally and you can watch. Just don’t use internet explorer and you won’t get viruses from the fake sites.

“Why the hell doesn’t ESPN use their 360.com infrastructure and stream it onto the LHN website?”

Because then we will not form an angry mob and storm our local cable providers with torches and pitchforks demanding they carry LHN. The last thing a crack dealer wants to do is give away his supply for free once you have the customers hooked. And let’s not kid ourselves, if we are posting on this thread, we are already hooked.

It’s on in the dorms?

Party at Moore-Hill.

There has never been a party in Moore-Hill. Playing Words with Friends using only Linux code words doesn’t count.

For you DFW folks, Frankies in Lewisville claims to have it.

http://www.frankiesbar.com/Lewisville/EventsNextMonth4.html

Now, to return the favor, who can tell me where to watch it in Atlanta??

At least you guys have some hope of getting the LHN this year. All I can hope for is what JJ said – someone out there will take pity on me and stream it illegally.

It’s in the broadcast provider’s best interest to be hardnosed with ESPN and negotiate the lowest cost to carry the channel as possible. They know ESPN is putting a lot on the line, monetarily and reputation, with this venture and can ill-afford to lay an egg on it’s premier game broadcast by it being virtually unviewed live. So, what is ESPN’s contingency plan if they don’t have a satisfactory broadcast carrier group lined up?

If they have one, when is H-Hour.. to put it in effect? With the amount of advertising ESPN can bring to bear on their channels and Internet site, it shouldn’t be a big problem to draw viewers to the game if they announce its availability on one of their off-channels even just an hour before game time.

Admittedly, I’m not a businessman, so does this make sense or is it just ridiculous to think this way?

To be clear how unlikely it is that I will ever see LHN up here, I can’t even get ESPN!

Sorry, I didn’t see stuckinmn’s logical explanation before I posted.

scally has a gay bar in Buckhead that has all the games.

I’m still hoping against hope that ESPN has a plan for on-demand streaming access, and that they’re just waiting until Saturday morning to announce it. And, not that i know anything special, but I disagree with Stuckinmn. This is not 2005/2006 when the Big 10 network went through this. People access content differently, and both the infrastructure and endpoints (think web-browsing televisions, DVD players, set-topo boxes, gaming consoles, and the like) for Internet based streaming are far more advanced. Hell, fully 50% of what we watch on our TV on any given day is streamed one way or another (Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc).

Listen to me very carefully, Mickey Mouse. This is YOUR fucking fuckup if you don’t have a backup plan to stream this game. Streaming this game is a complete win/win/win for you. You win the PR battle by finding a way to deliver the content without compromising on your current cost demands; you get valuable demand data (including geolocation) to use in your negotiations with the operators, you get at least some monetary benefit early, and you highlight the quaint stupidity of the 20th century MSO content delivery model. This is all upside with no downside. It won’t make any of us pester our operators any less, since the games are but a fraction of the LHN content we want; but it does stand to make us slightly less pissed at YOU.

I still say there is a really strong case for bypassing the MSO model altogether and streaming LHN to all of the Texas Exes around the world, but I also know that doesn’t quite fit with Disney’s DRM vision to date. Streaming on-demand and potentially only the Rice game only is a way to make a bet on direct streaming without going all in. Again, there is NO downside to this.

HOWEVER, if you don’t stream the game on Saturday, and if I can’t watch the game on Saturday with 2 kids at home and a wife in grad school, then I will spend a little bit more babysitter money, fly to Connecticut instead of drive to DKR, and set your goddamn building on fire.

And take your stapler.

There’s a place in Austin on San Jacinto Blvd. that has the game live in 3D.

i pray to god someone will stream it off of like justin.tv or skype or some shit…

Any Seattleites know of a place to watch this? I hate to be stuck with Justin ot equivalent.

Yup…

http://www.texassports.com/genrel/090111aaa.html

ESPN will NEVER stream LHN until it gets deals in place with Time Warner and maybe Directv or Comcast. And even then it will be heavily restricted.

The entire business premise of the LHN is to strongarm the large carriers into making all basic cable and satellite customers in Texas pay .40 per month (embedded in the basic rate) to watch a few football games a year and a bunch of non-revenue sports – whether they want to watch or not.

Effectively, ESPN/UT is trying to take the rights to the one or two games a year that would normally be on pay-per-view and monetize that into an annual revenue stream of $50M per year, with most of the revenue coming from folks who won’t even turn the channel on.

I really hope someone blasts streams of the game on Saturday night out on the web to undercut this extortion-type launch. Last event like this I can remember (and it was for a sport I follow) was the US-Honduras World Cup Qualifer back in 2009 that was only on closed-circuit TV in Honduran bars and restaurants in the USA and certain other establishments for a very high price. There was a half-dozen streams of the game out there online (most were in Arabic or from China) of good quality. This will be harder because there is no foreign broadcast of the game (WHAT!!!!! Folks in Uzbekistan aren’t besieging their local cable company for LHN?!!!!!)

I’m sure ESPN will have the lawyers out prowling the web to launch cease and desist calls to.

If your ISP carries ESPN3, take a look. I clicked it up a while ago and lo, it’s not ESPN3 anymore, it’s now WatchESPN and it’s showing ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU and ESPN3 – all of them… given that the other three that have been added are part of their cable packages, it seems possible that LHN might be added to that list… anyone have any news or thoughts?

@JJ

First of all, this has nothing whatever to do with UT. Indeed the very deal UT struck with ESPN involves ESPN making exactly these kinds of decisions. And for the record, as smart a man as I believe Dodds to be, he made the right call. This is multi-national conglomerate vs multi-national conglomerate, and Texas was wise to sell the distribution rights and step aside.

That said, i take your point and (mostly) agree that’s ESPN’s current strategy. I happen to think it’s a bad one. I think they could get 30x the per-subscriber costs at 1/10 the volume and come out way ahead, not to mention the higher advertising rates they could charge, given that the advertisers would KNOW who’s watching, rather than it just being some JAG watching cause it happens to be on TV. Not to mention also that LHN content lends itself perfectly to a tailored audience, and shoving it into the traditional distribution model is roughly analogous to Yahoo purchasing broadcast.com then turning it into a goddamn newspaper. They’re taking something game-changing and potentially seismic in nature and immediately castrating it with a business model that’s been on its way out for a decade. Still, I recognize that very smart people at Disney and elsewhere would disagree, and I accept that.

So, don’t stream the whole thing. But streaming the Rice game is a complete no-brainer. Charge 20 per stream; hell charge 50. I’ll gladly pay it, as will every single bar and restaurant in the greater Austin area and probably a fair number of others on this board. Demand for LHN will not go away after the Rice game. And streaming the Rice game doesn’t mean you have to stream any other content, including for that matter whatever the second game happens to be. ESPN can still play hard-ball with the .40 per subscriber fee and they’ll still ultimately get the bundling deal you describe. Streaming just allows them to look like the good guys who ‘just want the fans to see the game’ in the meantime.

I can see waiting until the last minute. Saturday morning; hell, even Saturday afternoon. But DO it. There’s literally no reason not to.

Pretty much given up hope anybody up here in the Panhandle will get to see it. We just recently got No Fun League Network up here. I’ll just have to settle for catching the highlights on ESPN. Unless the extortionists are gonna charge extra for those too.

I live in SoCal and would be willing to drive at least anywhere between San Diego and San Luis Obispo. Anyone know of a place within that 350 mile stretch that is showing the game?

TexLong,

At least if you’re in Austin (other geographies may do the same thing; I just don’t know for sure), WatchESPN is a new streaming service made available to TWC subscribers. This seems to be ESPN/Disney’s general model thus far in terms of mobile content access, and it helps TW, who is currently in court battles with other content providers over whether they can allow you to watch your cable content somewhere other than within the four walls of your house (iPad, iPhone, etc). Given that the entitlement is tied to a TWC subscription, however, it’s unlikely LHN will make it on there unless/until TWC cuts a deal.

Instead of the cable companies, why aren’t we bombarding ESPN and demanding an alternative. Do they really want to alienate the core of their audience?

TX2Step- I sincerely hope you are right and I am wrong.

I know nothing about the TV industry but do know a little about negotiation and leverage and this is exactly how I would play it if I were ESPN. See JJ’s post for a more detailed analysis of the end game goal of ESPN, but that’s exactly what I think they are aiming for.

If they pull it off, it is a great deal for us- access to the network at much cheaper prices than we are willing to pay because it is subsidized by non Texas fans, plus free publicity for the athletic program. In the meantime we might need to miss a few games.

I have two kids – make that offspring, can’t call ‘em kids when they’re over 30, I guess – living in Austin, and get over there at least once or twice a month, driving 407 miles east and 9 miles south, so it’s “over” and not “down”… although it is downhill from my lofty 4900 feet. Point being, I know their TWC does not (or did not a couple of weeks ago) carry ESPN3… however, I can log in with my ATT user pw and all is good. Can’t say I’m surprised at the twists and turns here, other than that it’s taken so long…

Just got done watching (listening, more) to Bowling Green / Idaho and noticed that at game end the announcers called themselves “Ascension Sports” or the like, not ESPN… make of that what you will.

TX2Step – you are right in that ESPN is really calling the shots now – but UT is the one who ceded control to them. Not partnering with a distributor may have been a mistake – the Big 10 and Pac-12 both got them on board to start. I think they got wowed by the upfront dollar signs and didn’t think thru the consequence.

ESPN is so big in college football now that they are effectively calling many shots out of the whole LHN + Big 12 breakup + SEC renegotiated fees. You think BYU won’t join the Big 12 if ESPN wants it to? Just look at the Bruce Feldman story today and the other self-dealings by ESPN and they have really not much journalistic integrity left at all.

The Big 12 will exist as long as ESPN wants it to. They will just keep reallocating dollars around until they see if the LHN is a success or pull the plug on it. Just look at how they keep offering other Big 12 schools to get the second game for the LHN – whoever finally agrees to it is going to get a bounty for it.

I read into Dodds comments about A&M turning down a chance to “partner” with them on a network as spin control and sour grapes, now that UT realizes that it doesn’t hold all the cards in this deal.

There’s no way that Powers, Dodds, ESPN all thought that two days before the Rice game they would have no major carriers signed up, the Big 12 imploding, not calling all the shots, A&M making a popular move for its base.

The LHN is DOA, i hate to say it but somebody didnt think thing through when they came up with this. Heres the deal, they want 40 cents a customer, that is for every customer. If you are nation wide and have 100 million households that 40 million per month. out of that 100 million, how many would be willing to pay a premium. my guess is 2 to 3 %. The carriers cant recoupe the money. The premium would be 13 to 20 dollars a month. LOL

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Any SF spots?

Howard Beach? Wow. That’s a hell of a trek.

You guys kept telling us to shut up and that it would be a last second deal. Y’all are the media experts, we kept being told.

Can we bring it up NOW that no one seems to be picking it up?

Stuckinmn/JJ

I get the model ESPN is shooting for here and I accept it. I happen to think it’s the wrong one in this case, but accept it nonetheless.

And JJ, I’ve no argument with you on the evil-ness of ESPN. I do think that Dodds is much smarter — not to mention much less petty — than you give him credit for, but that’s not really the topic of the thread so we can agree to disagree.

My argument to this board is essentially two fold:

1. If ESPN has 1/10 of the brain that the good lord gave a coconut, they should have plans in the background. I understand stuckinmn’s argument about leverage but at some point soon (tonight, tomorrow morning, early tomorrow afternoon, sometime) that leverage abates. From a pure Sun Tzu (wheels within wheels, plans within plans) perspective, it’s silly for them not to have a backup plan and direct streaming makes more sense than shifting the game to some other channel or giving on their price this early in the game.

2. If ESPN doesn’t have a backup plan at all and lets Saturday’s game go largely unwatched other than by the live audience (like they did with the launch event), then they deserve the full ire of the Longhorn fan base.

Even if you disagree with 1, we should all be able to agree on 2. There’s a ‘Feedback’ link off of espn.com/longhornnetwork. To the degree that people on this board are already stamping their feet at whatever operator they have, I strongly suggest using the link to stamp feet at ESPN as well.

found this on a rice site. i haven’t verified anything. this is just a starting place for you to look:

Addison Rock Bottom Brewery, 4050 Belt Line Rd.
Austin Aussie’s Bar & Grill, 306 Barton Springs Rd.
Austin BW-3 Grill & Pub, 218 E. 6th St.
Austin Clicks Billiards, 10205 N. Lamar Blvd.
Austin Texas Sports Bar At Showplace Lanes, 9504 N. I-35
Austin The Tavern, 922 W. 12th St.
Austin Warehouse Saloon, 509 E. Ben White
Beaumont Hoffbrau Steaks, 2310 N. 11th St.
Dallas Ben’s Half Yard House, 7102 Greenville Ave.
Dallas Humperdinks, 6050 Greenville Ave.
Houston BW-3, 2525 Rice Blvd.
Houston KC’s Bar & Grill, 6002 Fairdale
Houston Scoreboard OT, 2033 Mangom
Houston SRO Champions, 6982 FM 1960 West
Houston SRO Woodlake, 2517 Gessner
Houston Two Rows, 2400 University No. 200
McKinney Chris’ Blue Tee’s, 1705 University
Round Rock Damon’s, 1801 N. I-35
San Antonio The Fountain Room, 918 Bandera Rd.

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091599aaa.html

also, read somewhere than third base in round rock will have it.

Here’s my question… Where are the incentives for the providers to sign up AFTER the Rice game? I mean, at that point, unless another game is announced, what content will be in high demand? My take is, ESPN has to lower their asking price after Saturday because LHN is essentially dead until basketball season. Great strategy, all around.

Unless SRO Champions has re-opened in the last few weeks, this location has been closed for 20 years!

I just talked to the AD office and they are whining about having no control over the process. If that is true, then Deloss got screwed big time and should be fired. If it is true, then he is an incompetent moron who should be fired.

Dudes,

You need to be calling your cable providers. ESPN has no reason to erode their bargaining position during negotiations. They do not believe that you will stay pissed off enough to not watch the channel once it is picked up.

Case in point, this thread. Texas fans are ready to burn down Belmont because the Rice game might not be broadcast. Rice.

@yeh re: Dallas Area

I dont think its possible that places on Greenville that close into town are carrying FiOS. I dont think there is Fiber that far in, plus, that area is most likely zoned for Uverse (Richardson, the neighboring border to the north is Uverse territory).

I would call those places before trying to watch the game there.

yeh, I’m not sure how you found it, but that page must have been put up in like 1999 or something. First of all, Houston is supported by Comcast now, not Time Warner. Second, Two Rows in Rice closed down last fall.

Dallas Ben’s Half Yard House, 7102 Greenville Ave.

This place hasn’t existed in over 10 years!

The Dallas Texas Exes sent out the following in their weekly email newsletter:

*We are aware of the issues with finding locations that can broadcast the Longhorn Network. We are currently working with a couple of establishments to find solutions. Games will be shown pending an acceptable solution. Please consult our Facebook site (Dallas Texas Exes Chapter) for updates*

I am one of the 10 people on the planet without a Facebook account, so I cannot comment on any updates to their site.

Again – as mentioned in another thread – ESPN is doing something online. Not sure what just yet, but something is up… What used to be ESPN3 is now Watch ESPN and last nite was streaming three ‘other’ ESPN channels normally only found on cable/sat: ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU. It also showed a “login” field, which I’ve only noticed before when away from home where my ISP is an ESPN3 carrier – away from home I have been able to login with y ATT account and watch ESPN3… so I think something is up – those other three are part of the regular cable package, and it looks to me like ESPN is in the process of embracing netcasting in a much bigger way. I’d suggest that you check it out and see – especially if you’ve not got ESPN3 from your ISP. I noticed that the online ESPN Texas network website has “insider” content that you can’t see unless you “join” and give them a few bucks a month, so I have a sneaking suspicion they’re going to do something similar with the video LHN… and it probably includes “insider” shit for all of ESPN.

Fun times.

*Yes, joetx, i said alums

That is acceptable.

Just don’t go around saying, “I’m an alums.” Otherwise, you will incur my WRATH!

99.9% of dedicated sports bars use DirecTV or to a lesser extent Dish, because that’s the only way to get NFL Network/Sunday Ticket commercially. It would be ridiculous for these bars to add Verizon or whichever non-satellite carrier for one or two games a year, though equally ridiculous that you can’t watch LHN games at sports bars in major Texas cities.

Assuming DirecTV is not in the mix, look for oddball restaurants and smaller “non-sports” bars with only a few TVs who might have Verizon or whichever other minor carrier picks up LHN. If LHN is passed over by both TWC and DirecTV, then it’s a debacle. Still time for a deal I guess but really points up the greed involved in this whole venture. Can we just watch the game please?

“If you are nation wide and have 100 million households that 40 million per month. out of that 100 million, how many would be willing to pay a premium. my guess is 2 to 3 %. The carriers cant recoupe the money. The premium would be 13 to 20 dollars a month.”

13 to 20 dollars a month? Shit, I and every other person on this board would be all over that. I think I pay $15 a month for HBO so my wife can watch True Blood and every version of Jane Eyre ever filmed.

How many on here have ever dropped $24.95 to watch a freaking pay-per-view againt Baylor or Sam Houston? (Raises hand sheepishly). I could drink one less coke a day and somehow make it work.

TX2Step, agree with all your points. I submitted feedback yesterday to ESPN about streaming via the internet. I told them I would be willing to pay $10 per month for online access to the LHN, particularly if I could have access to previous shows I missed. There are many more of us that would be willing to do the same. ESPN can layer in ad dollars on top of the sub money, and achieve the same revenue goal with a smaller base of higher paying customers.

UT can’t do much in this situation at this point, and they probably should have safeguarded against his situation with a contract clause stating that if the cable providers didn’t pick up the LHN then UT retains the broadcast rights to certain events (football games). UT’s football brand and even merch sales could be hurt by people missing games and becoming less engaged.

At this point, if you’re yelling at TWC and AT&T you should probably be yelling at ESPN too.

We are in Bay City. Bay City Cablevision has LHN. I called Dish to bitch about them having no LHN.

So I called Dish this morning to request the LHN and to complain that they don’t have it yet. When they tell me that they don’t know when they will have it, I ask how much more time I had on my contract. After telling me that I was not currently under contract, they ask me why I am asking. I tell them “because I want to watch the Rice game this weekend.” Dish then gave me the ESPN game plan and the ESPN Multisports plan (one of which will have LHN when they finally do reach an agreement), the All everything plan (a step up from my current plan), and the 4 premium movie channels……FOR FREE! They even dropped my bill $5.

I’m thinking that if they have to do this multiple times, they may view this as a business case for hurrying up and make the deal with ESPN. Hopefully they will add it by the Kansas State game.

My back of the envelope math suggests that ESPN would be above breakeven at 250-300K online subscribers at a price of $10 per month, assuming they also generate a couple of million dollars in annual targeted site ad revenue to offset the increased streaming distribution costs not anticipated in the LHN contract with UT.

My understanding is that the program generates north of $60 million in ticket related revenue (donations for season tickets plus direct ticket sales) for home games alone so we are in the neighborhood of 700K people paying on average up to $100 per year to experience a portion of UT football alone. To assume that ESPN could garner at least 300K subscribers for a year round, on demand, University wide streaming network does not seem like a stretch to me.

The new cable installer came by my parents’ house this morning, they flipped on the TV, saw they had LHN, immediately called Dish and cancelled telling the Dish rep that it was due to their failure to carry LHN. I think if that happens enough this thing might work.

On a side note, I just found cheap last minute airfare from Minneapolis to Houston, figuring the kids need to visit their grandparents sometime this fall and a long holiday weekend is as good as any.

Some Plan II students and I will be performing the game on the South Mall as an interpretive dance.

Is it a sure thing that 3rd Base will be showing the game in Austin? How would they air it if no one has picked it up in the Austin area?

My girlfriend (UF alum) got an email from Florida’s lone star gator club and it said 3rd Base MAY show the Texas game (3rd base is where they hold gator watch parties)

Bombard your local carrier—they are feeling the pressure to conclude a deal.

If you’re on Time-Warner in the DFW area, call 972 742-5892. The secret corporate number–866 563-6312–goes to voicemail, but they will call you back.

One other thing to mention. Time-Warner indicates the LHN will probably become part of an ESPN extras package for $7/mo. My brother who gets Verizon says he has it at no charge. Let ‘em know we’d like LHN as part of basic service.

E:

If you are in SoCal you are living large. Almost all of the beach towns south of LAX (Manhattan, Hermosa, Long Beach, Huntington Beach) get Verizon FIOS which has the LHN. Start calling some sports bars!

Am I the only one who has actually gone to the LHN website? There is a streaming option, the entire channel is streamed live…for people who get the LHN on their TV. That’s it, it’s not going to be on WatchESPN or ESPN3, it has its own separate streaming system.

Damn this year sucks, water and TV drought, both.

TX Long, you wouldn’t be near Alpine, would you? I want to live there, or in Marfa, Ft. Davis, etc.

UTChem, whenever I attempt to play anything on the site I get this message: “Contact your cable provider to request access to the Longhorn Network.”

i told you guys the situation.

4thn5, like I said it only works if you are currently subscribed to the network. Also, you need to get your internet and TV service from the same company I assume.

With half the places on the list closed, anyone else thinking the Rice list of watching venues might be a bit of pranksterism?

The page is just old. It also has the wrong kickoff time. And refers to the teams as being “Newly integrated with Negroes”.

"Everyone Remain Calm, All Is Well!

My God man! I’ll pay $100 dollars for this game, I’ll pay $200! I don’t care, I’ll do whatever they want!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq3V3mKF218

Guys, I fear that ESPN is holding the BYU game in their back pocket for negotiation purposes. The feeling of haste to get this done might not come to a boiling point until week 2. If we’re pouting about not being able to watch the Rice game now, imagine how much shit will go down when the prospect of not watching the UT-BYU game is a reality. I imagine threefold. Especially considering that the BYU faithful will throw down at that point also. This would really blow, but I’m sure this is a scenario the WWL has already considered.

This has now been posted at the top of that Rice page we’ve all been going to:

“Folks, this release is from September 15, 1999, and does NOT refer to the Rice-Texas game on September 3, 2011. Anyone in Houston can tell you that Time Warner is no longer available.”

Just talked to ATT&T—-the rep didn’t even know what I was talking about. She then Googled LHN and said Dish had the rights to the LHN and ATT would not be offering the channel. Don’t think anyone has a clue as to what is going down.

I have faith in srr50.

I’m guessing the loudest complainers on this thread are the under 30 set (except ransom). Would it kill you instant gratificationers to listen to a game on the radio? Craig has a Way of describing the atmosphere that makes you feel like you are there. Give it a shot sometime. In the meantime call your provider and complain to them, and get off of my yard!

Everybody loves a good Angus Burger — they just don’t want to see how it’s made from the pasture to the grill.

The last minute really, really means the last minute.

Perhaps the Rice game will be a sacrificial lamb (I still believe the major carriers will reach some kind of agreement within the next 24 hours), but both sides are looking at the Big Picture. If no agreement is reached statewide, then the chaos will ensure that both sides will bargain at a more serious level.

This is a long-term project and the instant gratification angst that we are witnessing will be forgotten before we actually have temperatures below 100 in Austin.

I can be this expansive mainly because I am in Washington D.C. this weekend and I am pretty much SIL no matter what.

Not sure if this as been listed, but Uverse rep told me to use this link to submit a request for them to carry the LHN. I should work for all cable providers.

http://espn.go.com/longhornnetwork/getaccess

A friend of mine told me a few weeks ago that when the Rockets made their last contract agreement with Fox Sports, the agreement was not reached until 48 minutes before tipoff of the first game.

I was told this morning that folks had called and confirmed that Pluckers and Cool River in Austin would be showing the game through some sort of set up. This was straight from the bars. I imagine lines will be down the road if this is true.

I don’t know why anyone thinks TWC will cave. I mean honestly, TWC still doesn’t even carry the NFL network. I don’t think they will cave.

If you haven’t done so already, ‘like’ LHN on Facebook.

For all the Dallas folks: Black Finn in Addison has just confirmed that they will be showing the game!

Reminds me of the 60’s when we had to listen to all games on the radio, except maybe ok and a&m and cotton bowl if they won the swc. I can still listen to the game on radio. Might be fun for a change.

Which radio station in Houston will carry the game? Evidently KILT is no longer part of the Longhorn Network.

Thanks in advance.

OOOOOOOOOOOH! I wish Springfield Missouri was on this list. Wonder if DGB will have it on at his house…..

Grande and ESPN have reached terms and will air the LHN tomorrow.

curly: 97.5 FM.

Anybody in tyler seeing the game?

I just called Direct TV for the umpteenth time and was referred 3 times to, finally, some kind of minor local program director.

He said, emphatically, that Direct TV has no plans now or ever to carry LHN and suggested I contact EnTouch. This is for the Houston area.

Does it sound like he was a little pissed?

There is no way Belmont can spin this differently: the entire country is laughing at the “Longhorn Network”—-coming to 32 of you via cable.

Hornwright – I dont have a FB account, so I guess we make 20% of the world that doesnt get on “the website that owns your life”.

But my brother has a slingbox, my friend has Fios and Viola!, I WILL have the LHN! Yeah!

Ransom, the rest of the country is watching Dancing with the Stars. They could care less about LHN, one way or the other.

Wow, I just turned on the tv to watch tcu and it turns out I have the Lhn. Benefits of living in grad housing!

Looks like the Jayhawks have agreed to be LHN game #2. Guess Kansas will be on Big Monday 7 times this spring.

Someone told me that Black Finn Addison has DirectTV. How will they show the game?

OK folks. Let’s use this Internet power to groupsource a pub hunt. Who has Grande? Just checked Shoal Creek and they have DirectTV.

Watching TCU/Baylor – fun game so far – not a hell of a lot of D in the first half (yet), it’s 27-23 as I write this. Griffin III is the shit – wasn’t he one of the ones knocking on the door a couple years back, but MacGreg didn’t want him? I’d like to think HarsinWhite would snap him up… My heart says TCU, but my brain says Baylor and the XII.

Meanshile:

Oliphant said: TX Long, you wouldn’t be near Alpine, would you? I want to live there, or in Marfa, Ft. Davis, etc.

Technically, no. I am most of the time IN Alpine. It’s the High Desert, and it’s a long way from anywhere – I can, and have, driven all the way to San Diego without seeing a traffic light that can change colors… in fact, the nearest place that has one of those things is Fort Stockton, 70 miles away… you can see a couple of ‘em in Van Horn, 100 miles north, or Del Rio, 225 miles south and east… head due south, and you’ll never see one, you’ll bump through The River, and die in the desert down in Mexico, like Pancho.

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srr50 said: Everybody loves a good Angus Burger — they just don’t want to see how it’s made from the pasture to the grill.

Years ago I saw a documentary titled MEAT – no music, no dialog, no narration, just… MEAT, from the pasture to the table… trucking, feed lots, head knocking, slaughtering, ankles deep in blood, sweeping up guts, grinding up lips and assholes for them “hot dogs”… you watch this mofo, and you will not eat MEAT for weeks… Bet you could find it on Netflix or the like.

Snide Aside said: … Direct TV … minor local program director… Does it sound like he was a little pissed?

I fucking well hope so.

Taking James’ lead, I just called DISH to complain about no LN in South GA. Had to repeat “Longhorn Network” for female rep w/heavy spanish accent. She said, “We getting lotz uhf cawlz for ’dat!” Did the rest of the drill as James’ suggested. Got put thru to “Natasha” acct specialist. Long story short, she may have given me multisport if I didn’t already have it but didn’t budge on giving me Gameplan. Just gave me the price.

So, sounds like DISH is getting semi-barraged with calls.

As to whether they’re willing to give free Gameplan to disgruntled Longhorn alumni/fan subscribers, results will vary.

Alumni.

TCU/Baylor… after further review, the TV guys changed where we spotted the ball, so fuck it, we’re outta here, let them call the damn game…

Re: DFW

Colleyville has FiOS and has had the LHN all week… my father-in-law lives in the Southlake/Westlake area, and he has it as well. I’d check out bars in Northeast Tarrant County… Colleyville, Southlake, Westlake, Argyle and/or possibly Grapevine… or maybe I’ll just post my father-in-law’s address…

Anybody have any clue where the game would be shown in Los Angeles?

Anyone know any sports bars in the Houston area (besides the ones in Katy) that will show the game??

Any chance of the Owl-raping being on in any fine establishments in Manhattan?

@texlong and anyone interested in watch ESPN… I’ve been watching it on iPad and it’s great. Bad (or general lack of) news below. Actual transcript with Mickey mouse’s minions.

Hello Matthew,

We value feedback and suggestions from our fans. Your suggestion regarding making the Longhorn Network available on WatchESPN is very much appreciated and will be forwarded to the WatchESPN team for review.

For live assistance with this or any other issue, please call Customer Care at 1-888-549-3776 (ESPN) between 8:00 a.m. and 1:00 a.m. EST.

Regards,

Jack
ESPN.com Customer Care

This application is awesome! I just happened to see it today on a web ad.

Question : will the Longhorn Network be available through this as well? Please please please.

Thanks in advance,
Matt
UT BBA 93

Sounds like the best thing I can do is hope that the NCAA and Big12 rules LHN cannot carry games. Forcing ESPN and other channels to run them same as last year. I’ve heard absolutely nothing about comcast picking up LHN.

I’m in Dallas these days and I’m going to watch the game at a bar, where are my fellow DFW guys going?

NR,

The Exes are going to be watching at Black Finn in Addison, but I figure that place will be slammed so I’m still searching for an alternative as well.

Wyatt, let me know what you come up with. I contacted Oldtimehorn as well, he’s a Dallas man.

Just called Cheddars in Spring - 281 528 7629 - and the hostess confirmed w/the bar that they will be carrying the game tonite. I’m going to call the bar manager to confirm.

Stanleys@Lincoln and Armitage in Chicago will have the game.

San Antonio? Anything?

I called Grande to see if they had a list of establishments that are customers of theirs. They said they planned to have a list like that for future games, but they don’t have one yet.

Anyone got anything?

Curly,

What did the manager say? Did he/she confirm?

I just called that Cheddar’s in Spring and was told they do not have LHN :-/

Any Horns in the Nashville area, the game will be on at Roosters BBQ. That location is also the official spot for the Texas Exes this season.

Roosters BBQ
123 12th Ave. North
Nashville, TN 37203

615.770.2880

Below is from the AT&T U-Verse Facebook page from yesterday:

“Thanks for the LHN posts. As an update, ESPN is still demanding high costs for only one confirmed game and little detail on other content they’ll deliver. This is why we haven’t added the channel & unfortunately won’t have LHN for the Rice game. We’d love to carry all UT football games, but we owe it to you not to jump into a costly deal since AT&T and U-verse customers already pay high fees for ESPN Big 12 content.”

Anyone know of a place in The Woodlands that is carrying the game?

someone gonna slingbox or stream this or something

Time Warner gave me some similar crap. We’d love to carry LHN but the costs…too bloody bad for you I said.

The Front Porch Pub in Houston (Midtown) is telling people they are showing the game.

While its going to suck big time not to be able to watch this game, from the multi billion dollar perspective of high stakes college football maneuvering, the Texas Rice game is nothing. The experimental “LHN” represents a test case for ESPN and the 300 million they paid is a drop in the bucket compare to the futured projections of revenue and potential profits this near monopoly will realize in the future from colleg football. We are guinea pigs boys and girls, and there ain’t no deal coming anytime soon, as in probably not this year. While generally an admirer of the fine job Deloss Dodds has done for The University, he’s skating on thin ice, and I hope his long term conference and/or independent strategy is better thought out than this make it up as you go, cede all power to the four letter network, fiasco.

Yo, New Yawk?

Double Daves on 3000 Duval in Austin is playing the game

The only bar in Austin I’ve confirmed has the game is Third Base. Posse’s talking to Grande about it but they only have Grande internet (and TW cable) so I don’t think that’s likely.

Aaand Canuck Horn manages to negate my post while I’m typing it. WTF man aren’t you in Canada or something?

The Horns this year are just like the Horns of last year – totally unwatchable.

Cheddars—-confirmed by the bar!

You sure curly? They told me they have Dish.

Went for a walk around my hotel in Washington DC and stumbled upon Hill Country BBQ (7th street between E & D st.) and they are carrying the game.

Canuck, how certain are you about Double Dave’s?

Does anyone know a radio station website i can listen to the game on?

Just went to Front Porch in Houston and asked the bartender. They said they will ‘kind of’ have the game and that they ’can’t guarantee the quality’. So they’re slingboxing it.

soccertvlive.net will be straming supposedly

got to the am football tab and it lists texas v rice as an option

ut07: am1300 the zone.

eloy: i’m guessing we’re gonna be able to watch that one for about 5 minutes til it peters out…it’s the only stream anyone has found…it’s posted on shag too.

srr 50 with the expense paid corporate scam trip of the new millenium! Stumbled on it, my ass! :)

eloy, is that a video or an audio stream?

Seriously, Earl Campbell’s hometown … Any place to watch the game!?

Jake: I was just looking for something besides a Starbucks — there must be 10 of them within 6 blocks of my hotel :)

Yeah, right!

OBTW, I just saw on another site that TWC has signed on—-channel 77 in Austin. And so it begins, ladies and gentlemen! Death to the haters.

Jake,

I don’t think that’s legit. I think that was debunked at another site. Hope I’m wrong for your sake.

I get a fishy pop up on soccertvlive.net when i click on the american football tab. it’s the infamous click ok to continue. I’ve been burned by the such before. has anyone clicked that ok?

Yeah, I tried to get they guy who posted it to show some proof, but haven’t heard back. I fear you may be correct.

Dallas Chapter Texas Exes site reports that game will be shown at Black Finn pub in Addison

That’s all I’ve heard about for Dallas, Scipio, you know anything about the place? Will I be able to get in? Be served? Sounds like it’s going to be packed.

Also, I didn’t join the Texas exes so if that’s a problem…

The dreaded Ricardo at TWC told me channel 77 last night but it’s sounding like he was making crap up.

No go on TWC. I get what I deserve for logging onto Shaggy Bevo. Sorry, fellas.

This was just posted on Shaggy:

“If you’re in Plano Vickery Park 1011 East 15th Street Plano‎ TX‎ 75074 is showing the game they have Verizon Fios. It’s just off the dart line. Sweet back lounge we will have LSU Oregon on one TV and Texas Rice on the other.

anyone hear anything on San Antonio showings? Supposedly Texas Exes viewing party at the Friendly Spot, but haven’t been able to get ahold of them…

Did hear that TW customers can watch it online, but won’t be on the TV…haven’t tried that out yet though

Sweet, I’m at Medical center of plano now

Wyatt you gonna be there?

Yeah I’ll be heading that way shortly in burnt orange.

Gravey, what’s the Friendly Spot?

Cool, it a large place? Obviously black finn sounds like it’s really crowded.

Young Williams—it’s a bar down in the King William district—934 South Alamo, cool spot, great beer selection. SA chapter said that was the watching party spot and would announce a plan B if needed…haven’t heard anything about that plan B and can’t get in touch with the bar. Gonna be pissed if I head down there and it’s not on.

San Antonio: San Antone Cafe http://www.sanantonecafe.com/
NOT verified but I heard they will carry the game

watch the game at http://www.veetle.com

i’m watching it now, for free.

Just got back from Cheddars—-they lied!

Stopped at a new sports bar on the way back—-ESPN Radio people at the door said they would show it—-they lied too!

If there has been a bigger cluster fuck regarding Texas football, i don’t know what it’s been.

SA update, game is on at joeys and tycoon flats- both on St. Mary’s

@Abe you rock. I was in my car in my driveway listening on the Sirius. It sucked.

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