Texas Releases Depth Chart for UCLA
The notables:
McCoy and Ash are co-starters with Gilbert listed third.
Ashton Dorsey is a starter at DT after grabbing the position by its haunches and humping it into submission vs. the Cougars. This is huge and should have Vasherized dancing a jig.
Goodwin is now your starter as the Z receiver backed up by John Harris. That didn't take long.
For all intents and purposes, Goodwin took Darius White's spot on the depth chart because he's now backing up Davis at the X. That's what happens when you refuse to block and alligator arm a decent throw from a freshman QB. I consider this a wakeup call for White because there's serious talent in the pipeline in Jones, Johnson, and perhaps DGB for 2012.
Finally, Malcolm Brown is now a co-starter along with Fozzy. That's big because it means Brown gets carries in the first quarter. At least I think so...
More to come tonight. I should have Mondays With the Big Cigar published shortly after you go to bed. I had a real good conversation with El Cohiba Grande this morning, so stay tuned.
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Ashton Dorsey had a hell of a day Saturday. UCLA will be a test for him, but we’ve got the makings of a fantastic front 7. We need Jeffcoat to get his head in the game, though.
by Capt. Obvious on Sep 12, 2011 1:12 PM CDT reply actions
So, you know everyone just pushed back their bedtime by a few hours now, don’t you?
by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Sep 12, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions
Yes. I hope Jeffcoat is being double and triple-teamed because, otherwise, he’s been invisible this year – except for the stupid penalties.
by Ty on Sep 12, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions
McCoy to Shipley!!!!!!
Just like old times. Did you know Brad McCoy and Sydmill Harris’ dad lived together when they were both student’s at Erasmus U.
by Sailor Ripley on Sep 12, 2011 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
Jesus anything on the info about OU intending on going to PAC by the end of the month? I’m torn whether I think its a good move for Texas to follow, I would like to be able to see more games in person, but I also like the tradtions that we are losing now.
by Josh Horn fan in Cali on Sep 12, 2011 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
The combination of all this precocious young talent and a staff resolved to implementing it early and often and creatively is fucking exciting.
JS, I’m on the WC but need a solid 8, so try to have the big cigar report up at a decent hour. I wouldn’t you to be responsible for me oversleeping and the kiddos being late to school. kthx.
by ACE on Sep 12, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions
thujone, it’s just not the same without a few MS Paint phallus drawings…
by uthookem on Sep 12, 2011 1:47 PM CDT reply actions
yeah. over/under on how many years some people still think mack is picking what kids play? i say minimum of two past his retirement.
by yeh on Sep 12, 2011 1:48 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks Jesus for all that you give to the Longhorn community. And now I’ll have a wonderful treat courtesy of the The Big Cigar waiting for me at breakfast in the morning.
Yes, these are things we wouldn’t have seen in the past, though I wonder to some extent how much of that was actually GDGD only wanting guys playing who had a grasp of all aspects of the game rather than playing someone situationally who was brilliant in one area but lacking in another.
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Sep 12, 2011 1:50 PM CDT reply actions
Jesus,
I have been very patient over the last several weeks, but I can be no longer. Give me a one sentence synopsis of the El Cohiba reporto.
I sense the BYU game was a monumental shift for this team. I sense that it was a monumental shift for Brown in his tenure as head coach. I think this is one of those turning points that builds into something big for this program.
Give me a preview of the sweet goodness.
by The Apostle on Sep 12, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions
Very surprised there were no changes in the starting OLine.
by Another Dipshit Poster on Sep 12, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions
Depth chart is still not available at Mack Brown site. Nor is the transcript of today’s presser by Mack. On the bright side, there is a Bill Little commentary available.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions
Harsin likes Goodwin’s leadership (and world class speed/explosiveness, good hands, and ability to run with the ball).
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 2:08 PM CDT reply actions
“On the bright side, there is a Bill Little commentary available.”
Talk about bright side, this week’s Little Comment had me ROLLING. Don’t want to steal FKT’s thunder so I’ll just post a direct, no shit, word for word, quote:
“Still, it is important to remember that it is way too early to expect anything. At this point, you can expect everything.”
by Texastough on Sep 12, 2011 2:17 PM CDT reply actions
Can’t wait to see Malcolm Brown catching some short passes. He is a load for a safety to tackle.
Love Fozzy but DJ Monroe is clearly a better runner. Given that Fozzy catches passes well, why not play him more split out? He can still participate in the running game via jet sweeps while being a bona fide receiving threat. This would enable DJ to get more snaps at TB, his natural position.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions
I just now heard that Sydmill Harris speaks more than one language??!?!? WOW.
by txsa on Sep 12, 2011 2:22 PM CDT reply actions
FKT, please pick up the white courtesy phone….
by nordberg on Sep 12, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone questioning the decision making of this staff cannot possibly hold a degree from any reputable learning institution.
by The Meddlesome Troublemaker on Sep 12, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously, what the hell got into Ashton Dorsey ? For anyone following the practice reports throughout August camp, 2nd DT remained a question mark. My guess is Dorsey used his week in exile to brush up on unrelenting combat and savagery with nomadic horse-lords of the eastern continent.
by triplehorn on Sep 12, 2011 2:40 PM CDT reply actions
If only you had the greatest history player in the history of Texas high school football, Johnny Football waiting in the wings, you would be ok.
No worries, you can see him run SEC defenses silly next year on our way to the Aggies first SEC crown!
Whoop! (double up) Whoop Whoop!
by Aggie Rick on Sep 12, 2011 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
Greg Daniels also looked solid in the 4th quarter. Almost sacked Heaps for a 12 yard loss and forced a bad throw down the sideline.
by Vasherized on Sep 12, 2011 2:46 PM CDT reply actions
“Love Fozzy but DJ Monroe is clearly a better runner. Given that Fozzy catches passes well, why not play him more split out? He can still participate in the running game via jet sweeps while being a bona fide receiving threat. This would enable DJ to get more snaps at TB, his natural position.”
This is what OU has started doing with Roy Finch.
by NateHeupel on Sep 12, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions
It is real easy to get excited about this team. Harsin and Diaz look like great choices at OC and DC respectively. Goodwin has come back and Ship is even better than advertised. An unbelievable number of frosh are making significant contributions. The other (non Kheeston) DT position looks like it will not only not be a problem but will be a strength. The young DBs are looking great. Malcolm Brown and DJ Monroe are looking great running the ball. BYU was a heck of a win. There is accountability.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions
I disagree that DJ’s natural position is RB. You don’t want him running between the tackles, and I don’t get the impression that he really sees the field well or understands how to read the OL. You also don’t want him having to pick up a blitzer.
IMO the role he is in right now (R. Taylor type role with an empasis on jet sweeps) is perfect for him. His natural position is “get him the ball in space”.
by Horncasting on Sep 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks JS.
First off, I’ve been remiss in thanking you and the crew (magnus, Tipsy, Vash, etc.) for hosting the tailgates. You guys do it right. And as TG mentioned, you really do have beautiful hair.
On Darius- I remember watching the UA All Star game when he housed a punt return and thinking to myself, “holy shit – this kid is more raw than a live cow.” He looked like a superb athlete that hadn’t received a lick of coaching yet (everything from his routes to how he carried the ball). And then that continued in 2010, where all the staff did was (criminally)burn his shirt.
My point is, I would hate to see him get labeled as any sort of bust yet (the drumbeats of the blogerazzi are getting louder). I can’t dispute anything you wrote in the post above but day 1 of Spring practice w/ Darrell Wyatt was the first day of real coaching the kid ever got. He’s got all the physical boxes checked (4 stars worth), hopefully the WR hard wiring gets onboarded.
by Dude on Sep 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
Forgot to add, that I agree with your overal point, Kafka, that DJ should be eating into Fozzy’s touches.
by Horncasting on Sep 12, 2011 2:59 PM CDT reply actions
Fozzy would be great in the role that Reggie Bush has taken in the NFL, that of passing threat out of the backfield and occasional change-of-pace runner on throwing downs. Fozzy has great hands and good openfield instincts, and I hope we use them.
by Jonathan Davis on Sep 12, 2011 3:00 PM CDT reply actions
Seeing our LBs wrap up making open field solo tackles caused me to wet myself.
by MIA on Sep 12, 2011 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, DJ would need to mostly run outside rather than between the tackles but that is easy to make happen when Ash is the QB since Ash can run inside. The main point is that when Malcom Brown is not at TB, I would prefer DJ at TB rather than Fozzy. Two things that DJ does superbly: run fast and make people miss.
The Ramonce Taylor role is probably better suited to Fozzy because he catches so well. Having said that, when Brown is at TB, DJ can make a great contribution on jet sweeps when he is split out. Goodwin is also well suited to the Ramonce Taylor role.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 3:09 PM CDT reply actions
This may sound crazy but I bet that DJ catches the ball a lot better on short passes if the ball is thrown underhanded to him (like on a lateral but with spin). Underhanded passes minimize the energy in the throw (because it is a level throw or even low to high throw rather than going from high to low) and more closely mimic the pitches that DJ catches routinely. Obviously there would have to be no defender between the QB and DJ.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
Horncasting said:
September 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I disagree that DJ’s natural position is RB. You don’t want him running between the tackles, and I don’t get the impression that he really sees the field well or understands how to read the OL. You also don’t want him having to pick up a blitzer.
IMO the role he is in right now (R. Taylor type role with an empasis on jet sweeps) is perfect for him. His natural position is "get him the ball in space".,/i>
+1
by Joetx on Sep 12, 2011 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
joke’s on you, I’m going to take the Bart Simpson Xmas Eve approach and drink 12 glasses of water before bed time. That way I’ll wake up around 2am with exploding bladder syndrome and a strong desire for some Cohiba Grande info.
by godzillatron on Sep 12, 2011 3:28 PM CDT reply actions
Lots to be excited about, but this year it looks like we will go only as far as the QB postion takes us. That’s a big unknown at this point, but the rest of the positions certainly seem to be coming together(OL is probably the 2nd biggest ?).
If the coaches can come up with a solid game plan for the QB’s and diversify what they have them currently doing then we have a shot of making a nice run. Personally, I think there will be quite a few growing pains and it will be a up and down year, but the team is definitely building for the future.
by sunset on Sep 12, 2011 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
The problem with the current approach is that DJ is not getting many touches (only 3 carries last game). If paired with Ash then DJ does not need to run inside (because Ash runs inside) so any problems DJ might have reading the OL would not be applicable. We now also have a FB to run inside and pick up blitzers. A play that starts with a fake pitch to DJ will distort the D and set up run blocks and play action passing very well.
Harsin says that DJ’s natural position is TB.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 3:39 PM CDT reply actions
Fozzy would be great in the role . . . of passing threat out of the backfield and occasional change-of-pace runner on throwing downs.
that sounds right to me. i’m not real crazy about how we are using him for the most part now, but in this specialty role i can really see him flourish. i’ll mention that the next time bryan or major asks my opinion.
by yeh on Sep 12, 2011 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
"Still, it is important to remember that it is way too early to expect anything. At this point, you can expect everything."
If you took Dennis Hopper’s character from “Apocalypse Now” and dosed him up with Prozac and Extacy, you’d sound like that.
by Texoz on Sep 12, 2011 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
^ that’s cause he can’t catch. His natural position is running down the sideline with the ball held on his outside edge….
by Arriviste on Sep 12, 2011 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
Johnny Football is the greatest history player in the history of history players in football huh aggy rick? You will win 3 games at best in the SEC… welcome to the 3-9, 2-10 years…. Oh that’s not far ff from being 4-8 or so in the BigXII every year but 1 in 8…
by Longhorn Josh on Sep 12, 2011 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
“Two things that DJ does superbly: run fast and make people miss.”
Have to disagree on #2. DJ has straight line speed but no shake & bake. Look at his long run and screen against BYU – he outruns a few angles for big yards but at the end, when there’s a big white dude waiting right in front of him, he tries to run him over – on two different plays – as the smallest guy on the field. He doesn’t make people miss but he is a burner. I like his current role.
I think Fozzy will get going – so far he really hasn’t had good opportunities.
by Texastough on Sep 12, 2011 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
QB is the biggest question.
Harsin most likely constructs packages that are well suited for each of the 3 QBs. The problem for Ash right now is that his set of plays is so limited that it was easy for BYU to defend it after awhile.
Gilbert needs to be running and rolling out more, throwing short, quick passes more and throwing intermediate or long passes mostly only when the safeties have come up to support the run.
Case’s set of plays seems fine for now.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions
DJ has subtle moves but he definitely makes people miss. He needs more touches.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
I wondered what that horrendous burping noise was as I drove past The Tap this afternoon. Evidently Aggie Rick got started a little early. Can’t say as I blame him, though. Even through maroon colored glasses, it’s easy enough to compare depth charts, even across time zones. (I’m pretty sure they’ll be competitive with Kentucky, though.)
Meanwhile, UCLA awaits the good guys. This week will make for some interesting psychoanalysis. Mostly of the fan base.
by Walden Ponderer on Sep 12, 2011 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
snowballing on what Kafka said.. i agree… GG had LOTS of open green when he rolled out on his 2nd INT but he decided to chunk the ball to BYU’s safety (i mean Davis). GG has showed he can run but it almost seems like he was choosing intentionally not to run so that he can show he can throw…
GG’s best game last yr was against NU where he ran most of the game to set up his short to intermediate passing game.
by jt on Sep 12, 2011 4:02 PM CDT reply actions
also, getting a little bit concerned about Jeffcoat… all reports was that he was blowing it up during practice and this was supposed to be a breakout yr for him.. rewatching the BYU game, JJ was pretty awful and BYU actually ran his side quite often… not a good sign when the other team thinks JJ is our weak link on the front
hopefully this is a sign of BYU’s O-line being very good… if not, the DE positions was supposed to be one of our main strengths this year so this is not good whatsoever
by jt on Sep 12, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
Abe Lemons,
You are my favorite horn coach of all time.
by Kafka on Sep 12, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions
I’m going to predict part of the Big Cigar’s musings. Is it appropo to forecast a forecast? And please don’t REDACT this when he says it.
They are going to be adding downfield passes to Ash’s plays from the GG chapter of the playbook. This makes sense because it will fully utilize him as a true dual threat and keep defenses honest, not only in loading up the box, but in sitting on the underneath routes. The threat that we can go deep has to be there on a consistent basis, and it has been a staple of the BSU offense as long as I can remember watching them. Say what you want about Gilbert, but his presence made that a possibility. Based on what we’ve heard from the Asset, et.al., so far about accuracy and arm strength, Ash would be the guy they’re going to pass that mantle to as soon as they can.
by Jake Lonergan on Sep 12, 2011 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Stand down, fellas. Aggie Rick is a bit.
and a lame one at that.
by srr50 on Sep 12, 2011 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
As much planning as Harsin does you have to think he is holding something back for OU — like Ash throwing down field, short passes to MB, etc. The stuff shown in the next two games will keep Stoops busy game week.
by jerryw on Sep 12, 2011 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Dorsey played well and he certainly looks the part. Dude is a hoss
by RS on Sep 12, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
jerry, you may be right but, it seems like Harsin’s M.O. is not to hold back but to run almost anything out of any set at any time. I don’t think he cares what OU sees. In fact the more the better since they probably won’t see it out of the same package or down and distance so give them more film to digest while creating false tendencies for each week’s opponent. I’d love for Ash to start throwing downfield in the Rose Bowl so Venebale would have to respect it pre-snap and burn cycles preparing for it only to do it against him from a look and at a time they hadn’t seen before—-but that’s just my $.02.
IMO, one of the myths we used to be surrounded by under the old regime was the idea we were somehow “holding back” for OU and then usually seeing the same old stuff in the Cotton Bowl.
by Jake Lonergan on Sep 12, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
UCLA Depth Chart: http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/fb-depth-chart.html
by D.C. Horn on Sep 12, 2011 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
In the context of what we have developing, and the future it holds (referring primarily to this young football team, but also somewhat for the potential of the LHN), the raucous nattering of an agricultural adolescent is much like the blue jay outside my window in the early morning. It may be annoying and make me curse, but it still is, after all, just a blue jay, and that’s all it will ever be.
by lurkerinthedark on Sep 12, 2011 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
Are we running a major Division I football program or the seventh grade soccer program for Academy of Nice Girls? I despise this OR nonsense. Name a starter. There will be 11 men on the field for the first down of the first series. Who will be those 11 men?
The two-deep is not state secret. Indeed, it is sign of manhood that we can release the names of those 11 men and dare you to stop them.
Stop protecting those delicate players’ feelers. Knock off the OR crap.
by milevin on Sep 12, 2011 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
@milevin MB said in his presser today that the releasing of a depth chart on Mon was for the press and that given everything going on the coaches aren’t making final decisions on the actual 11 til Thurs or Fri. The OR’s are a function of this uncertainty and I think a signal to the players on both sides of the OR that they need to earn the spot during the week. Seems like a sound motivating strategy to me. The OR in the QB situation is that who is “starter” is going to be entirely dependent on the first play that is called and that might not be decided until Sat.
by jimboLH on Sep 12, 2011 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
Yahoo is now reporting that Texas officials met with OU officials over the weekend. Hopefully the Big Cigar will be familiar with this and have some idea what the outcome was, and some idea what our plan is if OU leaves.
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Sep 12, 2011 7:32 PM CDT reply actions
Looking forward to the Big Cigar update tonight. Luckily, I work nights so I’ll be wide awake.
by Kasey on Sep 12, 2011 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
Milevin, you’re missing the point.
This coaching staff doesn’t care how things are done everywhere else. Depth charts are for fans, not for games. Who’s the QB? Whoever the hell has the best chance of running this play better.
Sure, I’d like to have “the guy” in charge, but Harsin doesn’t give a damn what I think, and you know what? As much as I hate OU, I have to admit… only one of us (me and Harsin) has ever made Stoops look foolish. Hint: it ain’t me.
Ditto the defensive side of the ball. Yeah, there’s guys who take the first snap of the game, there has to be, by definition. But Diaz don’t give a damn about convention. He’ll run the ballboys onto the field if he thinks it will generate enough confusion to get tacklers to the place where the ball is about to be.
I don’t remember the last time TEXAS outcoached somebody like they did this last Saturday. Outguessed them, sure (Steelers Roll Left). But outcoached? I’m thinking Street-to-Peschel. Seriously.
by Walden Ponderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:01 PM CDT reply actions
Way to keep us in serious suspense JS…I should know not to henge too much on definitive words like “should” ha ha ha…A little disappointing that there’s no “Monday’s in the Humidor” piece yet.
Family obligations are front burner issues, after all.
…And the transplanted ’Cosm crack heads wait…
by D.C. Horn on Sep 13, 2011 6:20 AM CDT reply actions
do we have anyone named Alex Okafor playing for this team?
by spellbound on Sep 13, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions
Is it appropo to forecast a forecast?
Is it apropos to use a cool word like apropos and not come close to spelling it right?
Most of the thyme I don’t give a pschitt about speling an sutch – particularly win their are homonyms (or pussy) galore, or an obvious typo…
Sorry, Jacke, ewe through it out their an eye cuddent rezissed.
Okay, your rite, eye am truely ass whole.
by Tex Long on Sep 13, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions
Paden Kelley played some great ball in the 3Q allowing us to run the ball to the right side. Need to see more of him.
Would of like to have seen Jeffcoat get benched after his boneheaded penalty (and see some Reggie Wilson game time).
Hope we keep doubling Ash’s snaps each game….full timer by game six.
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