UT to AM: Sorry, Our Schedule is Full

Play them every year alternating between Austin and Reliant and it airs on LHN. These are non-negotiable.

Shame about men’s tennis. Have they looked into mixed doubles?

No reason to let A&M have their cake and eat it too. Had they departed differently our sentiments might be different but the underlying business reasons don’t change: playing us only benefits them.
 
Let them build an authentic culture that isn’t premised on being Not-Texas.
 
In the meanwhile, next year’s home schedule is utter dogshit. Dodds better pull a rabbit out of a hat.

From what I’ve gleaned by reading other sites, apparently the biggest obstacle to PSU & Pitt renewing the series over the years was supposedly due to PSU wanting 2 games in Happy Valley for every 1 game in Pittsburgh.

I think UT should go 1 better: 3 games in Austin for every 1 game in that armpit of the Earth that is College Station.

Plus, the Austin games must only be broadcast on the LHN.

Wandering, I think it’d be wise to stay away from any sport with Aggy where there’s “mixed doubles”…just sayin…

Also if Tech and/or Baylor have offered to play them, I’m sure they’d do it on Thanksgiving so Byrne’s full of shit as usual on the September thing. I suspect they knew what our answer was, so they offered and will puff their collective chests out about it, all the while breathing a sigh of relief behind the curtain.

I’m gettin’ the popcorn ready for the aTm/Baptist game! Somebody will get seriously maimed in that one.

The aggies have proven themselves to be dishonorable people who eagerly sell out their business partners to make a fast buck.

How much money are the other members of the Big 12 losing so that the aggies can get their extra $4 million per year.

F*ck ’em. Never play A&M again.

Do we have a meat judging team. Maybe we could cut them some slack and schedule that.

The whorns just don’t understand TRADITION.

Love how A&M is screaming about our response here when, in the same article, Byrne says it just won’t work out with their schedule to play Baylor or Tech. No sense or awareness at all that it’s pretty much the exact same reason Texas gave him.

Yeah, A-Tex, I picked up on that, too.

In the meanwhile, next year’s home schedule is utter dogshit. Dodds better pull a rabbit out of a hat.

I’m excited for that Wyoming tilt.

“Shame about men’s tennis. Have they looked into mixed doubles?”

And using the aggy cheerleaders?

Nah, we don’t have open slots in the schedule for lightweights. Hehehe…

I can’t wait to see the S$C reaction to the all-male homo guard “cheerleaders” in the white ice-cream suits. The crowd comments will be priceless!

Go Bears!

My 2nd favorite team this week …

What are the Aggies gonna do at Fish Camp?

I would imagine spaceghost that the S$C fans would tell the all male aggie cheerleaders that they sure have some pretty mouths. Then I’m sure their would be something about making them squeal like pigs. So on and so forth.

F*ck ‘em. Never play A&M again.

Yup. Not now, not in 2018, not in 20 years, not ever.

What are the Aggies gonna do at Fish Camp?

I’ve wondered this too given that most of what they learn is connected to anti-Texas in way or another. It’s gonna be real interesting to see how their “traditions” evolve now that they have essentially divorced themselves from their identity.

Did next year’s schedule change? I thought we had Cal ot someone else decent (or at least in a BCS conf).

My understanding is that our OOC schedule next year currently stands at Wyoming, New Mexico, @ Ole Miss.

We have a home and home with Cal starting in 2015.

Don’t read the comments left by some of the aggie’s on the page that’s linked in the article…I thought it would be funny to read some of their typical comments, but their stupidity/immaturity and just borderline retarded behavior was unbearable. The stuff they say usually doesn’t get under my skin, cause I mostly just laugh at them, but goddamn, they can so be infuriating. I hope we never play those idiots in anything, ever again.

Aggie tennis team playing “mixed doubles”? I didn’t know sheep could play tennis.

I would much rather Texas work on a Thanksgiving Day tradition with Notre Dame, personally. At least in every other year where it works with their USC schedule.

And I hope we do not make any kind of dramatic announcement. Treat them with an amusing sort of neglect even when they start using the press to call us names for refusing to play them.

Apathy towards them would be far more insulting.

I am starting to believe Bill Byrne may actually be the most groundbreaking performance artist in history.

Those morons just blew themselves up with a bad trade in order to give Texas the finger. Why would we play a game that Texas fans are by and large indifferent to that only serves to give A&M the ability to salvage their season after getting a train run on them in the SEC?

It makes more sense to stand back and watch them fade into mediocrity from afar.

HelmetBoy F.T.W.

“What Bill’s got to understand is, playing Texas isn’t a right. It’s a privilege. He can’t just act out and expect Daddy to give him another cookie.”

With attitude’s like Woody B’s above it is no wonder why everyone across the country hates Texas. I personally thing you administration is a bunch of gutless wonders, but hey your home schedule next year should really pack the house.

I am FASCINATED to see how their traditions change after this. What about “sawing varsity’s horns off” during every home game?? How as a student can you take that seriously when you aren’t even affiliated with Texas athletically. May as well be singing about the Oregon Ducks

People hate Texas because we’re Texas. Nobody gives a shit about A&M because they are A&M. Same reason people hate Notre Dame and don’t care about Baylor.

Kilgore Trout,
Texas is just helping A&M do what they have professed to want- escape from Texas’s shadow. Look at it as a clean break, forever. No more late night phone calls, searching Facebook for latest photos of your ex, asking friends about him, or hanging up the phone when he answers….

There also is a degree of A&M arrogance as well in all of this, as noted repeatedly above. Time to move on. A&M has gone all in on their hand and we will see if they pick up that inside straight on their move to the SEC.

watch them fade into mediocrity

you have a subtle eye.

so kilgore it’s ok for you to shaft Baylor and Tech. But if we shaft you its a problem. once again aggie hypocrisy comes shining through.

I’m reserving judgment on the soundness of this move till I see our strength of schedule in future years. It’s quite satisfying on an emotional level right now.

haha. good riddance

Tell them to go fuck themselves, if they think they are all that, then lets see how they do and revisit this in 5-10 years.

After they get pounded into SEC submission they wont want any part of Texas.

Gotta love people who crap (or spread fish guts) all over a relationship and then expect to be invited over for Thanksgiving. I’d like to see UT play a conference home game every Thanksgiving.

People around the country do not hate Texas. You’re talking out of your ass. And Texas didn’t run from Aggie, gutless Aggie ran from Texas. Oh, and fuck you.

Cousin It,

Jerome Solomon at the Houston Chron wrote a great description of our friends in B/CS a month or so ago. Paraphasing, he said they have both a crippling inferiority complex and an outsized and unwarranted superiority complex.

“Winslow, I’m leaving you! I cannot fulfill myself as a woman with you.”
“OK.”
“Winslow! Put the paper down. I. said. I’m. LEAVING you!”
“Whatever.”
“For good! I won’t be back! Ever!”
“Yeah, OK.”
“But maybe we could get together from time to time? For old times’ sake?”
Winslow puts paper down.
“Where did you say you were going?”
“I didn’t…but if you must now it’s with that nice Tricktickler B. Slim. HE knows how to treat a lady!”
“Ladies, you mean. Well, have a good time.”
Winslow starts reading paper again.
“Winslow, what about what I said?”
“What did you say?”
“About us getting together from time to time?”
“I don’t think so.”
“But…but…after all we’ve meant to one another?”
“It didn’t mean that much.”
“!!!!?”
“And I don’t want to catch a social disease.”
“You brute! You…you…you…you have a tiny wee-wee!” Stalks out and slams door.
Winslow sips his beer and continues reading with a feeling of lightness of being.

I’m no playwright, but you get the idea.

I thought we’d string them along a little bit longer before delivering the news.

A&M doesn’t like to play Texas teams in non-conference anyway. Over the last 10 seasons, the Aggies have played 4 games against Texas schools in non-con.
SMU – 2011, 2005
SFA – 2010
Texas St – 2005

Louisiana schools 6 games:
LaTech – 2010, 2006, 2002
La-Monroe – 2007
La-Lafayette – 2006, 2002

Sorry folks, schedule’s closed, moose out front should have told you.

Go away, aggy, and schedule somebody easy. Like Arkansas State.

As someone who lives in SEC country, I’d like to get some clarity regarding the Longhorns decision not to play A&M. I don’t really see how it would be any different the UGA/Tech series. Nobody in GA is under any delusions regarding UGA’s dominance and the attention it commands within the state. But the rivalry is in most instances a great game and a fun time.

I understand how the Aggies’ reneging on their commitment to the B12 can piss you off, but doesn’t A&M still constitute a rivalry even if it is akin to the one between a hammer and a nail? The Longhorns found a way to accommodate OU prior to the B12, how would playing A&M be any different?

Poor Aggie! See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya! CT’s and milkmen getting bent over by the SEC and then coming back and asking for a date. Um, no thanks.

Vandiver49, I think it’s a reflection of changing times and the effect of the BCS on OOC scheduling. Your point is valid, but A&M pissed all over UT on the way out the door. There was no reason for it, and they could have left regardless. They tried to tear down the whole conference on the way out though, and UT admin is rightfully pissed. Actions like that should have consequences, so the minute Aggy said they wanted the game, we rightfully concluded it was far more important to them than us. Why give them any help?

And Scipio, don’t spoil the moment. We’ll worry about next year tomorrow.

I understand the business side of it. But as a fan, I’m pretty saddened by the passing of the rivalry. I love that game, and I wish it would continue. Guess I’m alone on this one though.

The Longhorns found a way to accommodate OU prior to the B12, how would playing A&M be any different?

Try this: Texas vs. OU = Michigan vs. Ohio State

Texas vs. Texas A&M = Michigan vs. Michigan State

Should the Spartans leave the Big 12 for the SEC, Michigan would drop them like a bad habit.

What will Dinesh Patel serve to Baylor for Thanksgiving dinner?

Any word on the Aggies replacing Texas in their fight song ?

Fuck the Aggies – I say let’s schedule LSU, Bama, Auburn or Georgia for Thanksgiving – assuming one of them has an open date. The aggies can schedule New Mexico State or SF Austin – I mean the aggies WILL have an open date Thanksgiving.

@TxNick,

I understand that A&M departure was clumsy and uncoordinated. I’m sure Mike Slive is just as pissed about the A&M because he wasn’t ready for it yet. But ultimately the B12 will survive as long as the Longhorns want it to. And with the LHN, Texas has a very good reason to keep the conference afloat.

@srr50

 I’m sure Michigan would stop playing Sparty if the left for the SEC. The question again I have is why. As mentioned earlier, you can look at the Pitt/PSU situation and how they stopped playing once both teams joined conferences? Why? People point to JoePa wanting a 2 and 1 series or other scheduling conflicts but it ultimately boils down to trying to marginalize the other school.

 I guess this is where problem lies as this type of attitude transcends what happens between the lines. PSU purposely went out of its way to marginalize another state school. As we know, football at its best helps keep AD revenue neutral. PSU’s actions succeeded and resulted in adverse repercussions throughout other scholarship athletics (particularly men) for nearly 12 years. That to me runs contrary to the overall mission of the university system.

And while it can be said that the Aggies were trying to do the same thing to Tx Tech, I remain confident that as long as TX and to a lesser extent OU want the B12 to survive, it’ll remain in place.

Was on vacation with the family in Florida last week and ran into a bunch of SEC fans, mainly Alabama, LSU, Auburn and Tenn. Several of them asked us why Texas wasn’t coming to the SEC. Not one of them actually wanted A&M in the SEC…the tone ranged from not really caring to wondering how they got stuck with them. The description “wierdos” came up twice.

At this point I have met to a total of one SEC fan who was happy about the A&M move, and his sole reason was that he went to UF and would be able to see the Gators in play in Texas once every 4 years.

Ditto plum. Beyond the game itself, each of us that grew up in east or central Texas appreciates the entertainment value of constant Thanksgiving week shit talk with neighbors, co-workers, poorly adjusted family members, . . . None of this fun happens if we play Notre Dame.

I’m absolutely going to miss those delusional circle jerkers and their consistent insanity – backyard wrestling with your white trash cousins is what the holidays are all about.

Vandiver – Playing Texas adds a marque game for A&M, while not providing the same benefit to Texas. A&M has bragged about all of the top schools they will play and how that will help their recruiting (ie they will win the head to head battles with Texas for in-state kids). We have no desire to help them in that regard.

It pains me to say this, because I’m a Texan first, last, and always…I love all things Texas and even though we joke about aTm, you’ll notice that the T is always capitalized. They were fellow Texans. But the way they’ve gone about all this is not Texas-like. I don’t even think of Texas A&M as a Texas university anymore. I believe the citizens of B/CS are as Texan as anyone…but the university within their confines is and has shown strong leanings toward Louisiana, so maybe they should change their name from TEXAS A&M to Louisiana A&M…or just University of Louisiana, College Station. Ya made me mad aTm, then ya made me mad. Fuck you, goodbye, and good ridance.

Should’ve said “made me sad, then made me mad.”

Texas Tech will be a fine replacement for the thanksgiving game.

Aggies should not whine, they are the ones that left.

No need to give any oportunity for Aggie to bolster recruiting. Aggie will lose recruits just because they dont play Texas. for years Aggie based recruiting on playing Texas.

So much for the theory Aggie recruiting will get better in the SEC. imo

TEXAS A&M, a odd man out in the SEC and now a odd man out in Texas.

Texas Tech? The Aggies were trying to do what they could to damage Texas. But you think Texas shouldn’t have responded because that was contrary to the mission of the university system?

@Horncasting:

I think you will find most SEC fans feelings regarding A&M to the SEC are all over the board. Personally I’m kinda ‘meh’ to them joining because I’m not sure of their ability to rise above the level of Kentucky, and Miss State in the SEC.

SEC fans don’t give a shit about aggy. They know it opens up Texas for recruiting. Aggy is just being used and what’s sad is they’re bragging about it.

I think someone needs to explain to the ags that when a longtime partner asks for and is granted a divorce from the family, that they should not expect to be invited back to Thanksgiving dinner for a long time – if ever.

Vandiver-

First we already have our three OOC games scheduled out until 2018 and with the exception of next year two of the three are big name teams, Arkansas, BYU, Ole Miss, Cal, ND, Maryland, USC. So either we cancel on them and pay a fee in order to play A&M which would be a downgrade or we cancel on the 1 easy team Rice UNT ect… And have a ridiculously strong schedule. While personally I would like to continue playing A&M, I just don’t see UT doing them any favors that benefit them more than us. UGA, Michigan, and Iowa do GA Tech, Mich St, and ISU favors by playing them each year but it is a privillage that the big schools allow their instate counterparts, if any of them did what A&M just did to UT then those rivalries would stop too. We can give plenty of logical reasons not to play A&M each year but at the end of the day the Aggies were like UTs bad roommate who signed a ten year lease at a nice downtown loft off 6th Street only to move out a year later, and while we did find a new roommate to take their place they can’t just ask to stay with us every time they get piss drunk and don’t feel like paying for a cab ride home. Friendships and Business Arangements have to go both ways and when somebody effs you over like that their will obviously be consiquences.

Told me you were gonna leave me, then you changed your mind. Co-signed note on a new car. Now you filed for a divorce, tell me you’re movin’ in with Billy Bob the Banjo King, two blocks over, soon’s the divorce is final… now you’re sayin’ you want to come over to MY place for Thanksgiving next year, and when I say “Fat chance o’that happenin’, bitch!” you tell the neighbors I’m an asshole?

Uhhhh… good luck with that… bitch.

I HATE the Aggies. That being said, I LOVED beating them when we played them. I still LOVE watching our players beat them. The rivalry ending is sad. It’s the longest intra-state rivalry in college football.

The Aggies are going to the premier conference in college football. We’re stuck in the most recently stripped-down version of a dying conference. The Aggies clearly want to play us, and Deloss (a Kansas St guy) is clearly acting like he doesn’t want to play them. To me, I’m not sure Deloss gets it about this rivalry, or is even able to. I wouldn’t either if I took the field at Kansas St.

We’ve lost 3 of the last 5 times we’ve played the Aggies, in spite of our supposedly superior recruits and superior coaches. And yes, that includes the Colt years. We need to play the Aggies every year, and whip their a$$. Get a spine Deloss. We’re Texas, not Kansas St. Your decisions are looking increasingly like an AD that’s lost touch.

That’s hilarious, Moses. Funny, funny stuff.

Texas A&Moses,

“The Aggies clearly want to play us so they can continue acting like morons, and DeLoss clearly refuses to to indulge the sheep humpers any longer since we don’t have to.”

FIFY.

The level of bullshit posturing is only going up with the aggies. They knew damn well they offered an unacceptable deal to Texas, yet we are “turning them down”, which of course has nothing to do with their shit proposition. It’s gotta be some ridiculous spin that puts Texas in a bad light, and them offering some sort of noble gesture. I feel like I’m listening to used car sales pitches.

Make no mistake, the aggies have not ended their rivalry with Texas, they’ve only moved it off the football field. They now perceive it as a potential zero sum game competing for resources within the state of Texas. They hope that a rise in prominence will occur at the expense of our support base. They would be thrilled to claim they sent Texas into decline with this move, by competing more directly with us for recruits, revenue, and brand awareness. That is the rivalry they are trying to arrange.

Expect a whole lot more of this for at least a while to come. Whether it’s realistic or not won’t matter. What matters is that they are going to do what aggies do, which is push the latest iteration of lame groupthink they always have to motivate their fanbase and hope someone else is buying what they’re selling.

There is some comedy to be had when it all somehow fails to come together like they envision, and the chest-thumping turns into excuse-making for the shortcomings that occur. Whether it’s funny or not depends on your point of view. The aggy joke is getting old. But what’s funny isn’t that they fall down. What will be funny is that they just keep repeating the same mistake that landed them on their back. Charlie Brown ought to know that Lucy is going to rip the football away, but he insists on thinking otherwise.

Aggy intramural quiddich coach just crapped In his forever lazy.

I’ll kinda miss playin’ agy on Turkey day.

CS isn’t quite as close to Austin as Waco, so maybe Baylor’s a good salvage play. It’s a hell of a lot further to Lubbock, which basically ain’t on the way to anywhere, except maybe Amarillo, and not a real convenient place to fly. What the hell, TCU might be the ticket, for a total drop-in replacement, no tools required (although I’m not a big fan of Jerrah and his World, I reckon we’ll need the seats).

This whole bullshit thing with agy reminds me of what some psych neighbor I used to have would have called the “Now look what you made me do!” Game.

Like a lot of you, I have family and friends who are agy, and as far as I know, they’re pretty much all mortified by these goings-on. Most of ‘em are embarrassed as hell by their dipshit bow-tie wearin’ President and their Nebarsky-escapee AD. I kindly feel sorry for ’em – my family and friends, that is, not the rest of those assholes.

Fuck ’em and forget ’em.

I’m gonna try as best I can to not respond to anything any agy – even the fabled “good agy” hereabouts – has to say or write. I’m gonna ignore ‘em, and it’ll be a whole lot easier for all of us if we all do, too.

So, Kilgore and the rest of you – adios, amigo; your bed is self-made, and I hope you enjoy it.

Personally I think Kilgore needs to change his name.

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The Chronicle is also reporting that UH and SMU are on the verge of joining the Big East and increasing their annual TV revenues from $2.9 million apiece to $13 million apiece.

Can the Big East schools really pull in $13 million per team in annual tv revenues when the Big 12 schools are projected to pull in $20 million per team with a much stronger conference?

Do you have any thoughts on how this could affect the Big 12 conference?

Moses… do you realize how long DeLoss Dodds has been AD at Texas? Probably longer than you are old! He took over for Coach Royal after a year or two and understands the rivalry quite well… he’s very much an AD who hasn’t lost touch!

Every good Longhorn fan knows we have a winning record at Kyle Field. Know which opponent has won the most games at DKR-Memorial? I’ll bet it’s a surprise. TCU.

Most wins at DKR-Memorial Stadium by a team not playing a school song that sounds like “I’ve Been Working On The Railroad”, in order-
TCU – 11 wins, 1 tie
Arkansas – 11 wins
SMU – 10 wins, 2 ties
TAMU – 10 wins, 1 tie

Guess TCU gets to start padding its record.

A&M played LSU 8 straight times in Baton Rouge back in the day. Maybe some day we could work out some kind of deal like that with them, in about 20 years.

Kilgore Trout’s response is exactly why we should never engage them. “Gutless” and other insults are going to thrown out because they know how much this game means to them and are pissed off we are refusing to play them.

So we ignore them. Watch from afar and see how they do in the SEC. They can pound on their chest about how brave they are while they go 4-8 every year.

It’s like the guy in poker who brags about never letting anyone bluff him only to be the first one out at the table.

Well you really showed us, didn’t you?

Vandiver-

I think that UGA and GT share some affection, or at least respect of each other, thus they value the rivalry and work to maintain it.

Right now, UT and Aggie do not get along, and Aggie has been particularily unpleasant in their behavior as they’ve left the conference. Feelings are raw, and Texas is not interested in playing A&M and assisting in their recruiting or traditions.

As it is, A&M’s SEC adventure has practically invited LSU to bring all manner of recruiting hijinks into East Texas. Don’t be surprised if the East division SEC teams (Florida, UGA) suddenly start proposing playing A&M in Dallas or Houston, you know, to make the match up more exciting. I’m sure they’ll return the favor in the Georgia Dome.

Texas is not only pissed at A&M, but they now are fighting a burgeon recruiting invasion into Texas. The first move is to get A&M off your schedule.

it just doesn’t make good business sense to help them with their transition out of the Big 12 and into the SEC.

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Vandiver49
“I understand how the Aggies’ reneging on their commitment to the B12 can piss you off, but doesn’t A&M still constitute a rivalry even if it is akin to the one between a hammer and a nail? The Longhorns found a way to accommodate OU prior to the B12, how would playing A&M be any different?”
1) Our rival is OU. Both schools claim each other as their rival.
2) A&M’s biggest rival is UT. Us not so much. As recently as 20 years ago A&M would have been 3rd at best behind OU & Arkansas. Arkie left in an honorable fashion & we play from time to time but they are no longer a “rival”. You judge how this worked for Arkie.
3)A&M’s self defination is based upon their envy of UT which we have thought was pecuilar but amusing. They refuse to capitolize “Texas” as it applies to UT. Their fight song & most of their “yells” (cheers) are UT centric. They see themselves as proud warriors defending truth, justice & the American way. They define us as “sips” based upon teasip; genteel & feminine.
4) Irrespective of what is said or written about the greedy bully Texas our administration has operated with honesty & transparency . A&M was invited to be part of the LHN at it’s inception and delined yet Bill Byrne (A&M AD) attempted to save face by inferring the offer never existed. Our administration has done what is best for our school as should any administration. Florida has their own network.
  Our desire has always been for a strong Big 12 and although our preferrence was for A&M to be part of the Big 12 we understood A&Ms need to do what is best for themselves. What we find unacceptable is A&M’s methods. To justify their desire to move to the SEC they blamed UT. Instead of manning up they continued to cast us as a bully who forced their move. Much of the “hate / envy bully Texas” originates in the A&M administration. Their behavior is completely contrary to who they claim to be. They are cowards & hypocrits.
  Their president described this move as a “100 year decision”. Fine. Our president doesn’t pretend to be able to see 100 years in the future but come talk to us in 2112 & we’ll see if we have any openings on our schedule. Not only did A&M hurt our conference but they utilized a policy designed to intentially defame us. We don’t do business with dishonorable people. Now they are asking to play with house money.
Fuck A&M.

Personally I think Kilgore needs to change his name.

I think he’s referencing a different Kilgore than you are, but if we could exhume Vonnegut’s corpse today and ask him questions, what do you think he would say about the Aggies?

hey, now, you can exhume vonnegut and ask him questions if you can get permission. not sure if you’d get any answers, though. i think he was always pretty taciturn.

yeh said:

“watch them fade into mediocrity”

you have a subtle eye.

I laughed. Because it’s true.

“I think that UGA and GT share some affection, or at least respect of each other, thus they value the rivalry and work to maintain it.”

No. With straight to the point nickname, “Clean Old-Fashioned Hate,” these two have been heated rivals since 1893. After the first game, disgruntled Georgia fans threw rocks and other debris at the victorious Georgia Tech players and chased them back to their awaiting train. After World War I the two institutions felt that the rivalry had grown too intense, fueled by UGA’s inflammatory accusations that Tech was cowardly because the school continued its football program during wartime while Georgia suspended its program for the football seasons of 1917 and 1918. The game doesn’t get a nickname like that because they’re fond of each other.

Earlier Scipio post about 2012 schedule being so poor. Assuming TCU replaces A&M on the conference schedule, and we are locked in with Ole Miss, Wyoming and New Mexico, we can do nothing but renege on prior commitments. Missouri cant bolt until 2013.

It is interesting to look at future schedules of the orphaned programs. BYU has about 6 TBDs on next years schedule. If worse comes to worse, we can schedule them readily for a third match (they are already on for 2013 in Provo).

Strictly based on business, Texas should not assist A&M in state recruiting now that they have departed for browner pastures. You leave the conference, you are on your own. No games with Texas, or OU for that matter. Don’t let that door………

Beat the hell outta Okie St.

I know he is referencing the Vonnegut character, but not everyone does.

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Here’s the link to the Chronicle article where Richard Justice claims that UH and SMU are on the verge of joining the Big East and that the projected TV revenues of UH would increase from $2.9 million per season to $13 million per season.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsjustice/2011/10/its-a-great-day-for-the-university-of-houston/#loopbegin

I wonder if the TV revenue projections have any basis in fact, and I wonder how Big 12 recruiting will be affected if there are 7 BCS conference schools located in the state of Texas with TV revenues sufficient to hire the best coaches and build the best facilities.

Here’s a list of schools that recruited heavily in Texas during either the last 15 years of the Southwest Conference (1981-1995) or the first 15 years of the Big 12 (1996-2010). The list starts with the biggest net gainers in winning percentage and descends to the biggest net losers in winning percentage.

Winning percentage 1981-1995 Winning percentage 1996-2010

net gainers:

Kansas State .38462 .64171
Missouri .35417 .56831
LSU .54651 .71958
Texas Tech .47353 .63636
Texas .64000 .75916
Oklahoma State .50872 .55801
Iowa State .36667 .39665
Oklahoma .71307 .72680
Kansas .43824 .44633

net losers:

Arkansas .62147 .57609
Florida State .80311 .71111
Notre Dame .69382 .58470
Penn State .76667 .66129
Colorado .61648 .50543
Nebraska .85054 .71649
Miami (FL) .84270 .70430
Texas A&M .72191 .56989
Baylor .57353 .28902

Baylor’s defense is fucking atrocious, but that’s a guaranteed loss according to Ransom.

Baylor cannot tackle or cover. A&M just cannot cover.

We need an open thread badly.

Baylor cannot tackle or cover.

I’m embarrassed just watching this abortion. Cyrus Gray does a spin move and eight guys fall down. Plus Swope is apparently covered in vegetable oil or something.

We need an open thread badly.

You can’t start one?

Yeah, but I figure someone else will do the UT one soon. I’m lazy.

“Yeah, Vasherized will undoubtedly take care of us”

 - Famous last words

You guys doth protest too much. We wanna play you , your staff and AD aren’t willing to accept that challenge. End of story. We have some quality opponents to look forward to year end and out. You have K State and ISU along with Rice and North Texas.
Good luck impressing BCS pollsters when you play that Murderer’s Row.

Aggie Lurking -

Good luck to you on A&M ever making it to a BCS game.

Also, good luck to you on A&M ever winning a bowl game not named after a local furniture company.

Good luck with your explanation to average fans as to why the game is no longer played.
" Well here at UT we have to play 9 conference games against a bunch of Midwestern agricultural and parochial schools who make up the meat of our football schedule then we need a couple of buy games against small regional opponents that have no shot at beating us. Although we have played A&M for over 100 years as a year end Thanksgiving tradition we consider OU to be our most important rival. While true we both refer to each other in our fight songs OU is still the game we can’t do without and would go to extraordinary measures to preserve. Now to continue to play A&M would potentially deprive us of a game on our own network and thus exsposure to hundreds of subscribers as opposed to the nationally telecast corporate sponsored game with those Aggies. Plus by playing them and losing like we have been recently it might give them some sort of recruiting boost which based on their recent success we sure don’t wanna do. Does that explain it to you Mr. Casual Fan ?"

Aggie to same individual. " They are afraid to play us."
Wonder which one will resonate with John Q. Public ?

Average fans are smarter than aggies. They know that TCU is better than A&M.

Actually Aggie Lurking our response will be not that complicated.

“The Aggies called us bullies, cheaters and liars, and said they were leaving to get away from us. And now they say they want to keep playing us? Why?”

Gotta bully a bully. Like doing it on athletic fields so we can have shit to argue about. It’s all in fun , life’s too short to not have a little fun.

Aggie Lurking -

Sorry we can’t help you. Take it up with your chancellor and your athletic director. Have fun in the SEC.

Why would Texas enter into an agreement with a school that can’t even keep a commitment longer than three months? Who’s to say a&m would back out before the start of the next football season to play someone else?

Further – Texas a&m doesn’t care about football in the state of Texas, so why should UT give a shit about a&m? Football in this state is its own culture. We do things different in Texas because, well, because we believe we’re better than everyone else. Teams in Texas like to play other teams in Texas because there’s a basic, fundamental part of them that thinks any team from Texas has to be better than any team from anywhere else. That’s why citizens in other states can’t stand Texans, but also sort of what makes us so great. And by us I mean Texans – so not you aggy.

No aggy you ran off to be part of “something bigger and better”. Bigger and better than football in Texas? No such thing to a real Texan.

So go ahead and join up with those mouth-breathers in the SEC and in ten years when people inside and outside this state think of “football in Texas”; they’ll have to be reminded that a&m is even in this beautiful state. Frankly, that’s a fucking blessing.

wouldn’t back out*

To all ,

Thanks for your responses. As someone already mentioned, there exists some animosity between GT and UGA, but its a game no would have wanted to go away, even after Tech left the SEC in ‘63. Again, my curiosity is two fold in that I want to know what the SEC is in for. If A&M is under the impression that the SEC isn’t run by certain teams, they’ll be in for a rude awakening. All conferences have their center of gravity (PAC = Cal schools, ACC = UNC/Duke, B1G=UM, tOSU) and the SEC is no different. While it might be more congenial and less overt, no one is under the impression that UGA, AL and UFL don’t run the SEC.

Secondly I’m trying to figure why exactly the B12 in its original form failed. I was always under the impression that the 4 SWC were thrown a lifeline by the B8. Thru the past couple of months I’ve discovered that the B8 was just as dead of a conference as the SWC, they just didn’t know it. Regardless, with three schools that could be classified as ‘kings’ of CFB, the B12 should have worked. Instead its simply proven to be a waiting room. This site has proven invaluable into gleaning insight into those two subjects. Keep up the good work.

vandiver, Atlanta is far and away the largest TV market and largest city not only in Georgia but in the entirety of the SEC. Georgia has something to gain in terms of exposure and potential recruiting by mainaining a presence via a home amd away game with a school located there (like we do with Rice) College Station is no Atlanta, my friend.

We also have other DI schools in our home state (TCU and Tech) that we can play annually who have been better than Aggy in the past ten years. Georgia only has Georgia Tech. We don’t need Aggy. As their pissing and moaning about us not playing them shows, they need us. Fuck ’em!

This is not rocket science. Just best business for both parties.

Texas full schedule excuse is bullshit. They could easily get out of contracts with Wyoming or ULaLa. Just an excuse. They don’t want to give a&m anymore in state exposure. Despite the fact u could make an extra few million.

A&m taking same approach with bu and tceh ( assuming that’s true). No need to give those low life clinger ons any financial or brand benefits that don’t mutually benefit A&m.

Btw, Texas cannot ask for any games to be on LHN. An A&m Texas game would never make it to 3rd tier rights. That would always be picked up first tier by CBS or Disney. Nice attempt to talk big shit, though

Hot dam -

Texas feels exactly the same way about A&M that you feel about Baylor – “No need to give those low life clinger ons any financial or brand benefits.”

Hot dam, you moron. ESPN/ABC owns the first tier rights. It’s a matter of them claiming the game with the first tier, and then showing it on the LHN in Texas and ESPN elsewhere. Considering it’s the Aggies, the rest of the Big 12 would go along.

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